Hello,
Regarding the debate that started over Pascal in the list, I was
asked to comment on it.
The Mono team will work to ensure that every compiler for the CLI
will work flawlessly on it, and we will work with the various groups
that produce them to address problems in Mono or their
Hey!
We are actually targeting J2EE as in System.Web where we implement it over
J2EE
servlets. We could actually differenciate and use 'TARGET_JVM' for Java
related
issues and 'TARGET_J2EE' for J2EE related issues. What do you think?
That sounds like a good idea. I like it.
Miguel
Hello,
Now I have started exploring the Forms. That is I am using the buttons
and other controls etc on a Form [ Pgm written on WINDOWS OS .NET]
And trying to run it on Mac. It compiles successfully, but on
execution, I get the following exception.
You have an old version of Mono
Hello,
I would like to change again the macro (hope the last time).
Instead of TARGET_JVM, I would like to use TARGET_J2SE.
The motivation is
1. Our target platform is actually JVM + JRE and not only JVM.
2. It goes more in line with TARGET_J2EE define and will better set the
reasons to
Hello!
I've sent a proof of concept to the list 3 weeks ago:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.comp.gnome.mono.devel/10777
The response was not overwhelming...
Am sorry; I was completely overwhelmed by work and email.
I think your code should go into SVN; Would you mind doing the honors?
Hello!
I am trying to create bundle installers for 1.1.5, based on the Red Hat 9
RPMs. There are no 1.1.5 RPM releases of Monodoc and Monodevelop, and the
installation page points to use the 1.0.6 ones (which in turn are the 1.0.5),
so that is what I am doing.
This problem has been fixed in
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There are many people complaining, not just those two.
In between FC2 and FC3, yum changed their metadata format in the headers
directory (generated by yum-arch
Hey!
I think your code should go into SVN; Would you mind doing the honors?
I've added the daemon under mono/monod and commited my changes in
ServiceBase. Maybe someone can have a look at Makefile.am. I hope
it doesn't break builds on other systems.
Have fun!
Joerg.
PS: Sorry for
Hey!
I've added the daemon under mono/monod and commited my changes in
ServiceBase. Maybe someone can have a look at Makefile.am. I hope
it doesn't break builds on other systems.
I will have a look at thsoe.
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Hello,
Ben points outs that this will load two versions of Mono, and they
wont be sharing their code. Am going to give it a shot at moving the
code over to C# and doing the demonization on shell/exec before we call
into Mono.
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Miguel told me that the performance issue will appear when, say,
thousands of sockets have to be passed to/from kernel/user space.
And you believed him? Why? ;-)
There has been plenty of work on this sort of thing - google
for c10k.
The bottom line is that more modern interfaces like
Hello,
Thanks Zoltan, we freebsd folks look forward to its inclusion.
Regarding $PREVIEW I guess it's enabled by default in svn and will be
disabled in the release?
Preview=yes will become the new default.
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Hello,
The issue at hand is that gtk-sharp ships with a config file that
maps the libgtk-win32-etc.dll name to the proper name on the underlying
OS. And I would like third party apps to be able to consume this
binding as opposed to introducing the logic on every application that
Hello,
They don't really have to be - there are plenty of
examples of how to wrap them up to create a virtual layer
that *is* portable. You only need 'one of' these
technologies on any given platform, and configure can
take care of the rest.
Given the effectiveness of P/Invoke and
Hello,
Dick's new daemon-less io-layer for Mono has been checked into the
main branch on SVN. It went through extensive testing before it was
merged into the main branch.
If you track SVN, please use this new version and help us debug any
kinks that might be there.
Miguel.
Hello,
My site is down.
I just pulled down the latest code form svn and now
only 1 of my web sites works, whichever one is
requested first. I think this is a regression as I
recall this problem in a previous version of mono.
I have 2 sites
http://www.mojoportal.com
Hello,
Is it reasonable to assume that cases of internal calls and using COM
are always accompanied by the text string MethodImplOptions.InternalCall
in the MSIL? If so, then I did a quick search for InternalCall in my
application's DLL's, and other than a couple COM interfaces in
Hello,
Hmm... I didn't see COM interop listed anywhere on your roadmap page. Is
this a priority? It seems that the ability to execute Microsoft DLL's
It is listed somewhere as a feature that we are not likely going to
support. It is just not useful at all in Unix, so either someone
Hello,
I'm currently looking at embedding Mono in Second Life
(www.secondlife.com) to allow user scripting.
Have you considered that embedding Mono may require you to open source
your application?
That is unless you use commercially licensed version of Mono about which
Nonsense.
Mono
Hello,
Apps that use COM or ActiveX controls will never run on Mono.
Even if COM was there, the existing code that depends on the control
would require the control to be ported to some form of COM on Unix
(which to begin with is not available in a reusable form) and binaries
for each
Hello,
* profiles/basic.make: The test for mcs was broken on jails where
we got a warning due to /proc not being mounted. Remove hackish wc
usage.
??? Why remove a working test that caught an actual problem?
What's wrong with adding a 'mount /proc' to the jail setup
Hello,
Please send release notes for 1.1.7. We need to compile these today.
Unlike previous releases, there will be no delay between the tarball
being rolled and rpms being released.
We will probably have to wait for OSX, Linux and Windows installers to
be available though.
Miguel
I was wondering whether there is any effort or interest in porting
mono to the Itanium2 architecture?
Yes. We are getting the hardware now.
I would also be interested to hear from people who ported mono to the
opteron, how much work was involved, how effective if mono on 64 bit
Hello,
I've been developing a patch for Mono for a while now and I have updated it
to support Mono 1.1.7. It's been tested on NetBSD-2.0, and in progress on
NetBSD-2.0.2.
You can get it here :
http://msdn.labtech.epitech.net/mono/mono-1.1.7-netbsd-20050509-1.diff.bz2
or here :
Hello,
Do you think we can add it to the windows forms implementation?
http://www.devage.com/SourceGrid/SourceGrid2_EN.html
We are already evaluating its use with Davide.
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Hello,
Well, the spec file we maintain is ximian-build.conf in the release
module, which generates the rpm spec. No real reason to maintain it in
two places.
I've been meaning to have a packagers page with spec files from our
build system. I think that's a more viable solution..
It is not
Hello,
Am preparing the release notes for a new release of Mono, please
send any important updates that should go into the release notes to me.
Thanks!
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Hello,
Wow I wasn't quite awake when I wrote that Email; I meant I wanted to
integrate it with MonoDevelop, not SharpDevelop.
Paul
I believe JB Evain is working on something that uses Mono.Cecil that we
would want to integrate with MonoDevelop. I believe the end goal is that
it
Hello,
I know that gettext () is widely spreaded on Linux but this does not have to
mean that it is the best solution and the Class Library has it's own
infrastructure for globalization using identifier based resources and
culture based resource files.
I have yet to be convinced that there
Hello,
I'm going to send application to google for this. I have some questions.
1. On what license code from
svn.myrealbox.com/monodevelop/trunk/MSBuild/ is released?
We should look into it, but I suspect it might have been X11, since
pieces of it end up in the class libraries. But we need
Hello,
I'm attempting to write a simple interface between C# and the GNU
Privacy Guard, but I'm running into a problem. Namely, whenever I set
processObject.RedirectStandardInput to true, GnuPG will die screaming
because it can't access /dev/tty.
Obviously, the best bet would be to tell
server.pvk server.cer
( from Sebastien Pouliot's blog:
http://pages.infinit.net/ctech/20041129-0607.html )
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Hello,
Mono 1.1.8 is out, release notes are available here:
http://www.go-mono.com/archive/1.1.8
Enjoy!
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Hello,
Mono 1.1.8.1 is a minor bug fix release to Mono 1.1.8, for details on 1.1.8 see its release notes.
Important Bug Fixes in 1.1.8.1
Fixed a bug in our Socket.Select implementation that was introduced in 1.1.8 which failed to work on read descriptors (Gonzalo).
Fixed a long-standing
Hello,
So please tell me whether you want:
- drop this patch
- drop localization at all
- or approve this patch
The patch only has one bug as it stands today: it uses a double check
lock, which is race prone:
if (x == null){
lock (...){
if (x
Hello,
BTW doesn't that mean all that kind of culture resources had better
become managed resources, unless they are required at runtime?
We also have huge culture-info-table.h and char-conversions.h
in metadata.
They are in C, where they are a const array. One advantage of having
Hello,
Just to follow up some more: since the tables generated contain
various arrays of short and int sizes, I rather go down the path of
embedding that into the C code, so we get the automatic endian
adjustment rather than forcing the managed code to deal with it.
We can add an internal
Hello,
We have mono 1.1.7 installed on Redhat Linux version 9.0. We have
implemented a basic threading code in C#. The code is attached at the
end of the mail.
How did you install Mono on Red Hat 9?
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I'm new to the list, residing in the UK and trying to get a small .NET
application to run correctly under MONO.
At present my question is about the possibility of using a small part of
MONO.
The .NET application I wish to deliver by download is very simple, and
must surely use
Hello!
How can I send you the zip files? Since it is approximately 11MB, ximian
mail server rejects the email.
We had a joint FTP site recently, could you upload the test suite there,
and Gonzalo can take it from there?
Or could you put the files up on an http server that we can use to
Hello,
gecko-sharp is barely used honestly. And even though we *could* remove
it, we would end up adding it back eventually for asp.net support.
My feeling is that as the project matures, the dependency on gecko-sharp
will increase. There are many uses for it in an IDE. For instance, the
* Please follow the mono coding guidelines
(http://mono-project.com/Coding_Guidelines)
I took a chance to read these guidelines as well. Since I've been using
4-space tab for all this time, I guess I should switch to 8, even though
they seem a bit to many... Is there a
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Hello,
I have written a small document with some guidelines on deploying
applications, and would like to get people's feedback about what is
missing and what can be clarified:
http://mono-project.com/Guidelines:Application_Deployment
Miguel.
Hello,
It appeared when I first upgraded from 1.1.7 to 1.1.8. I thought this
was an odd error, and so I tried 1.1.8.1. It remained. Since then
I've tried Meebey's 1.1.8 and 1.1.8.1 DEBs, compiling 1.1.8 and
1.1.8.1 from source, using the 1.1.7 DEB from hoary-backports, and
reverting to
Hello,
The mono-devel mailing list is a mailing about developing Mono and
programming with Mono. Please try to keep the discussions technical.
There have been some discussions in the last few weeks which are
marginally related and which are better discussed on the more lax
mono-list
hello,
Also, need to add these lines to the mono supplied machine.config
under webRequestModules to do RegisterPrefix:
add prefix=ftp type=System.Net.FtpWebRequestCreator, System,
Version=1.0.5000.0, Culture=neutral, PublicKeyToken=b77a5c561934e089
/
add prefix=ftps
Hello,
I can view all the demo’s including 1.1 and 2.0 pages, all my 1.1
projects seem to work fine J but I can’t use anything I create with VS
2005, it simply says it cannot find the ProjectName.Global class which
Global.asax inherits from.
This is normal, Mono currently does not have
Hello,
We're gonna be using the Cairo postscript driver to output to cups on Linux,
(postscript output should also work for the Mac). But this requires a) the
cairo API to settle down and b) moving all of gdiplus to the 1.0 cairo API.
Cairo is still too much in flux (even though they're
Hello,
Does anyone in the mono project keep a comprehensive list of what is
implemented in Windows.Forms and what is not. I have been playing with
porting Infragistics to Linux and it is just not clear what will run and
what won't.
The right place to discuss winforms is the
Hello,
Thanks for your reply, is there any way i can get it to work if I modify the
tags (I'm _really_ new to ASP.NET 2)? I had a look at the class library
status and only used stuff that was listed as working / supported in the
project.
The best thing to do at this point is to post a full
Hello,
It seems that the Mono ilasm is ignoring the .export directive. Is this
intentional?
That might just be a limitation of the current ilasm, not a design
decision.
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Hello,
I've already spoken with Mike, Ben, and Miguel on IRC, but I would
appreciate any creative solutions to either API or scheduling issues
that you can come up with.
Anybody ever tried doing a mono bundle with MD?
It could be possible to ship the gtk# 2.x libraries in a way similar
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Hello,
I was doing some test on mono+XSP with web services. I was using the packages
from debian/unstable (on the server):
XSP 1.0.5
mono 1.1.6-4
The performance problem that you reported has been fixed on the HEAD
version of Mono and will be available on the next public release.
Miguel
Hello,
I've already spoken with Mike, Ben, and Miguel on IRC, but I would
appreciate any creative solutions to either API or scheduling issues
that you can come up with.
One suggestion that does not require any changes to MonoDevelop or Gtk#
is to install Gtk# into a private GAC, and modify
Hello,
b) How complex will it be to implement this method? Doesn't it use
libgdiplus? Is there any chance of getting it done soon?
c) If my only chance is doing it by myself, is there anyone that can
give me some tips to get starting?
If you can find the equivalent Cairo sample, it will be
you in advance.
Andrew.
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Hello,
How should I implement malloc and free on CLI? I've come up with a couple of
ideas, but none of them seem particularly good to me:
- P/Invoke to native malloc and free
Problem: The binary becomes tied to the details of the underlying platform
to
pull in a malloc from the
Hello,
Correct, but I am also writing a partial libc for a couple of reasons:
I'd like to be able to test real world applications, and it is also
part of the acceptance criteria that I demonstrate a real world C
application under Mono.
Well, what I had in mind to demostrate a real C
Hello,
embedding mono. Is it possible to register internal calls at runtime
when running mono like a normal, sane person? Will this be any faster
than using p/Invoke?
You can not use internal calls and have them work in non-embedded
scenarios.
P/Invoke will also be a lot simpler to
Hello,
http://bugzilla.ximian.com/show_bug.cgi?id=75575
Does someone know if this type of bug will be resolved a day...
Or help me how to resolve this issue... I don't know where to begin...
Interoperability with Mono and MS.NET with .NET remoting is crucial for my
firm... I think it's
Hello,
The only proper solution could be to use two separate mono.exe files. One
for CUI and one for GUI. But this is too complicated and Windows is not the
primary platform for Mono so I think detaching the console for GUI
applications is the best solution.
This patch looks good to me to go
Hello,
Just a heads up: tomorrow we will be landing on SVN the new
implementation of Mono.Cairo which will require users using Mono.Cairo
to use Cairo 0.5
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Hello,
BTW: Is there an easy way to compile System.Web.dll - i.e. is it all managed
code?
Get the `mcs' module from SVN, and then do:
cd mcs/class/System.Web
make
That will build a System.Web.dll
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Hey!
http://monkey.workarea.jp/tmp/20050725/prof-no-collation.txt
http://monkey.workarea.jp/tmp/20050725/prof-managed-collation.txt
--- no-collation ---
Time(ms) Count P/call(ms) Method name
41982.000 102284.105 Mono.CSharp.Block::Resolve(EmitContext)
Total memory allocated:
in advance,
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sites, and it's not even tagged
in SVN. I had to end up getting a 0.6 tarball from the Debian archives.
It would be good to store the tarball and link to it from somewhere so
long as it's being used by other packages.
Ben, where would this tarball be?
Peter
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Hello,
Mono 1.1.8.3 has been released, this contains an important security
fix for ASP.NET applications as well as fixing the --debug deadlock
problem on SMP systems.
Users that use ASP.NET Forms authentication are encouraged to upgrade
to this version.
The software is available
Hello,
They look every bit as professional and clean as a commercial MacOS
software site, but when you click the Download $COOL_APP link you get
a tarball!
For those programs that do not require native libraries, we could
probably generate a Mono-based installer that can use console or
Hello,
For those programs that do not require native libraries, we could
probably generate a Mono-based installer that can use console or
Windows.Forms based installations.
Well, I can see why this would be tempting for you but my advice is don't:
a) You'd be rewriting what already
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Hello Carlos,
I'm attaching a patch which adds support for publisher policy files
( http://msdn.microsoft.com/library/default.asp?url=/library/en-
us/cpguide/html/cpconcreatingpublisherpolicyfile.asp ), which allows to
redirect one assembly version to another.
The patch looks good to me.
Hello,
As part of a project I have to study the mcs, especially those
structures corresponding to a symbol table, which shall later be used
in a source code analyzer. In the mcs, those symbol-table-like data
structures are just parts of the tree created when parsing. To get
some
Hello,
The patch looks good to me.
Does anyone have any objections to get this patch in?
Locking wise, I am not so sure about this path. It adds a domain lock in
the assembly loading code path.
Could you assist Carlos in making this patch work?
Miguel.
Hello,
I checked in managed collation (CompareInfo) support in mscorlib.dll.
It enables culture-sensitive string/character comparison support.
For now, it will not be activated unless you explicitly set
environment variable MONO_USE_MANAGED_COLLATION=yes.
Is there any reasons not to make
Hello,
I wonder, what was the need to throw NotImplementedException in
FontNameConverter destructor? What will do GC when destructor fails in
such way? The code is in FontConverter.cs:283
It seems like code that was originally just stubbed out and not
completed.
Thanks for pointing this out,
Hello Gert,
I don't recall if it existed in .NET 1.1, but it does exist in .NET 1.1 SP1.
I just installed .NET 1.1 SP1 (after much pain) and wrote a simple
program:
using System;
using System.Reflection.Emit;
class X {
static void Main ()
{
Type t = typeof
Hello,
You couldn't. I managed to find a document confirming that these
interfaces were indeed introduced in .NET 1.1 SP1 :
http://www.usysware.com/blog/?p=21
Microsoft's own documentation on MSDN2 says that these first appear in
NET 2.0, but I think they're just hiding that there isn't
Hello,
Type t = typeof (CustomAttributeBuilder);
Console.WriteLine (t.BaseType);
And it does not display anything. When compiled with csc 8, it does
display _CustomAttributeBuilder.
Huh? _CustomAttributeBuilder is an interface, so it obviously won't show
Hello,
First, I think that .NET SDK is not necessary, csc.exe is included in
redistribuable package.
Very likely, but the SP1 upgrade does not seem to have touched my SDK
directories.
What is your mscorlib version number ?
on my config :
$
Hello,
Thanks to everyone for their explanations on the SP1 issue.
I can not yet compile code myself on my Windows box that will
consume the SP1 types but lets keep Gert's code and move towards
implementing the SP1 APIs.
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Hello,
I've finally finished the css support for monodoc. The initial css
design is not perfect but the code is there so everybody can start
playing with it. The css is implemented for the ECMA, ECMA-spec and
error providers.
You have a TODO item regarding configuration: Monodoc is
Hello,
Please comment on the whole mechanism and let us know what you think
about it.
I am with Zoltan, the situation today is very manageable.
This tool is interesting, but it adds another layer of complexity for
what is in reality a non-problem.
Hello,
I’m currently working on expanding the c# compiler for my personal
syntax. (the /mcs code, not gmcs). As part of that I noticed that the
compiler code is a bit messy and not well documented. I would touch up
the code I run into while working on my own expansion. That would
require
On Sat, 2005-08-20 at 23:11 -0700, Rafael Ferreira wrote:
you can try:
http://www.gotmono.com/docs/
but it is a bit outdated...
This is better and updated:
http://www.mono-project.com/GtkSharpBeginnersGuide
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Hello!
The IA64 port of mono is now done and it is in SVN. It has only
been tested on
debian unstable. Please try it out and report bugs/problems to bugzilla.
Congratulations!
This is an amazing accomplishment: it took you three months while also
fixing numerous other bugs and rolling out
I'm trying to build mono and MonoDevelop on a SuSE 9.3+ box (see below for
specs). Though it's probably not the source of my problem, I should mention
that, in proper Unix fashion, I am installing to a non-system directory. Any
advice would be appreciated.
Mhm, sounds lie you got some
Hello,
I've discovered that many of my problems with building and running Mono were
related to having the SuSE bleeding edge bits for Gnome installed. After the
lattest rpms were uploaded to the ftp server (and installed here) things
really fell apart due to inconsistent Cairo version
Fairly simple. Also a trivial fix to CreateComponentsCore to maintain
compatibility with .NET.
I've tested it works with some icons I whipped up for the Web Controls
in System.Web.dll, but I'd like to make them a bit prettier before
offering them too.
Any objections to me committing
Hello,
We had asked the same answer before when we had fixes for
Novell.Directory.Ldap. What
is the official answer? How do we maintain sync with the Novel sources?
This seems to be getting worse.
Novell.Ldap is a namespace that was contributed to us by the EDirectory
group, and since the
?
Would you be interested in merging the changes from the official Novell
build into our tree?
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Hello,
I am starting to prepare the release notes for the upcoming Mono:
please send me privately the highlights of the contributions and changes
that you have done since the 1.1.8 release.
I forgot to mention: the release would happen in 2-3 weeks.
Hello,
Tomas is this fixed? Hari mentioned that it should be working now.
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Hello,
Miguel, do you think this change can be made? Can we get some contact
developer in Novell to discuss the latest changes and to synchronize the
code trees? Is it possible to switch the development to the common
repository?
In my last contact with them (a very long time ago, more than
Hello,
Thus I think the decision is, whether we are for culture
neutralism, or for convenience of Latin1 people. There is no
reason I stand for the latter, at least based on the factors
I listed above.
I would like to move to utf-8 myself, but we do need a plan to deploy
this, and with all
Hello,
The following does not specific to mcs code it's my opinion about splitting
files:
I think having a clean and well organized source code is required for
efficient development.
When splitting is done by copying files using SVN then removing unnecessary
parts from each file SVN
love if you guys could sync your tree more often with the Mono
tree, in a similar way to what Francisco does with Npgsql.
Miguel
Thanks Regards
Rajkumar
Miguel de Icaza [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8/25/2005 8:43 PM
Hello,
Miguel, do you think this change can be made? Can we get some
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