Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-18 Thread Alex J Lennon
Hi Mladen, On 17/10/2014 16:25, Alex J Lennon wrote: On 17/10/2014 16:07, Alex J Lennon wrote: On 17/10/2014 09:09, Mladen Mihajlovic wrote: Hey Alex There's a lot that you can do through their yml settings file. Download and setup pretty much anything. Have a look in the root if the repo:

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-17 Thread Alex J Lennon
Hi Jonathan, Thanks for taking the time to provide the background. I understand/agree that facilitating development on Windows is a complex task. I've seen some of the emails over time and can well imagine it's complex and invasive to the existing build system. People start the work, but I''ve

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-17 Thread Mladen Mihajlovic
Hi Guys, I took it upon myself to try and get a build up and running on Appveyor yesterday. Please have a look at https://github.com/mika76/mono and https://ci.appveyor.com/project/mmihajlovic/mono - so far the only thing I've edited is the appveyor.yml file and the actual a[[veyor settings. At

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-17 Thread Alex J Lennon
Hi Mladen, Sounds good to me. I've not encountered Appveyor before but it looks good. How do you get the Cygwin dependencies in there? Can it be assumed that what's happening in the Appveyor build is basically the same as on a standard Windows box? Cheers, Alex On 17/10/2014 08:53, Mladen

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-17 Thread Mladen Mihajlovic
Hey Alex There's a lot that you can do through their yml settings file. Download and setup pretty much anything. Have a look in the root if the repo: appveyor.yml. On 17 Oct 2014 8:59 AM, Alex J Lennon ajlen...@dynamicdevices.co.uk wrote: Hi Mladen, Sounds good to me. I've not encountered

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-17 Thread Alex J Lennon
On 17/10/2014 16:07, Alex J Lennon wrote: On 17/10/2014 09:09, Mladen Mihajlovic wrote: Hey Alex There's a lot that you can do through their yml settings file. Download and setup pretty much anything. Have a look in the root if the repo: appveyor.yml. Hi Mladen, I like the look of

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Alex J Lennon
On 16/10/2014 00:17, Chris Eelmaa wrote: Hello all, I have question regarding building mono on windows, namely I've tried a lot of times, and had a lot of different problems(such as missing some dependencies, git converting *.sh files to CRLF ending and cygwin not being able to interpret

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Alex J Lennon
On 16/10/2014 08:45, Alex J Lennon wrote: On 16/10/2014 00:17, Chris Eelmaa wrote: Hello all, I have question regarding building mono on windows, namely I've tried a lot of times, and had a lot of different problems(such as missing some dependencies, git converting *.sh files to CRLF

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (mono)
From: Alex J Lennon [mailto:ajlen...@dynamicdevices.co.uk] Generally speaking, the only reasons to build on windows are because you want to debug the code, which is generally better done on mac/linux. Or you're trying to accomplish something else, like obtain a specific DLL (such as

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Bryan Crotaz
Q: Why do I want to debug on Windows? A: Resharper On 16 October 2014 11:38, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) edward.harvey.m...@clevertrove.com wrote: From: Alex J Lennon [mailto:ajlen...@dynamicdevices.co.uk] Generally speaking, the only reasons to build on windows are because you want to

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Mladen Mihajlovic
Could a service like https://ci.appveyor.com/ not be used to set up a proper windows build? On 16 October 2014 12:44, Bryan Crotaz bryan.cro...@silvercurve.co.uk wrote: Q: Why do I want to debug on Windows? A: Resharper On 16 October 2014 11:38, Edward Ned Harvey (mono)

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Alex J Lennon
On 16/10/2014 12:38, Edward Ned Harvey (mono) wrote: From: Alex J Lennon [mailto:ajlen...@dynamicdevices.co.uk] Generally speaking, the only reasons to build on windows are because you want to debug the code, which is generally better done on mac/linux. Or you're trying to accomplish

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Greg Young
This may help you a bit https://www.google.co.uk/search?client=safarirls=enq=greg+young+sublime+is+sublimeie=UTF-8oe=UTF-8gfe_rd=crei=FsY_VN3ALO3H8gfZwoKwBg you can do much of VS + R# in sublime/vim if you spend the time to set it up. Cheers, Greg On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:45 PM, Alex J Lennon

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Bryan Crotaz
continued... (grrr PEBKAC) https://www.jetbrains.com/resharper/features/code_analysis.html On 16 October 2014 14:35, Bryan Crotaz bryan.cro...@silvercurve.co.uk wrote: You can probably do 5-10% max of resharper this way. Here's some examples of how it speeds up my day: On 16 October 2014

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Bryan Crotaz
Basically if we could persuade Xamarin to get mono building on Windows and VS users able to debug Mono, suddenly there would be a lot more developers able to contribute without having to learn a whole new stack first. Bryan On 16 October 2014 14:36, Bryan Crotaz bryan.cro...@silvercurve.co.uk

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (mono)
From: Alex J Lennon [mailto:ajlen...@dynamicdevices.co.uk] We use Visual Studio (plus Resharper as Bryan so rightly says - couldn't get along without it) as we find this to be a productive development environment. +1 In addition there is a lot of development resource out there with

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Alex J Lennon
On 16/10/2014 15:37, Bryan Crotaz wrote: Basically if we could persuade Xamarin to get mono building on Windows and VS users able to debug Mono, suddenly there would be a lot more developers able to contribute without having to learn a whole new stack first. Bryan +1 and I'm happy to put

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Greg Young
Oddly I have actually used this thing known as resharper before and have some idea how it works. You can do a hell of a lot more than 5-10% of what you use. Have you even bothered to go through the post list that explained how to setup much of what R# can do before deciding its impossible? On

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Bryan Crotaz
You can probably do 5-10% max of resharper this way. Here's some examples of how it speeds up my day: On 16 October 2014 14:22, Greg Young gregoryyou...@gmail.com wrote: This may help you a bit

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Alex J Lennon
From a productivity perspective and for risk management for testing and deployment I wish to be able to develop and debug under Visual Studio with Mono as a framework option. I'd like to be able to do that with Mono on Windows as a check that no issues come up between running on the .NET

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (mono)
From: mono-devel-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto:mono-devel-list- boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Bryan Crotaz Basically if we could persuade Xamarin to get mono building on Windows and VS users able to debug Mono, suddenly there would be a lot more developers able to

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Mladen Mihajlovic
Contributions are one thing, but there should be a windows build system implemented and running - even continuous integration running for each commit. I'm pretty sure there's a Jenkins set up for the linux/mac builds but non for Windows? Why? On 16 October 2014 15:45, Edward Ned Harvey (mono)

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread DavidKarlas
About debugging Mono on remote device(Linux) from VisualStudio... http://www.giesswein-apps.at/mono aka. https://github.com/giessweinapps/MonoDebugger About compiling itself... Don't want to sound like jerk but... It's open source make it compilable with Visual Studio tool chain and open PR...

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Bryan Crotaz
What's the estimation of effort required to get mono buildable in windows and debuggable in VS? 6 man months? 18 man months? I don't have time to donate but I'd be happy to put some money in a pot with some of you to hire someone to work on this full time. Feels like a concerted full time effort

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Vincent Povirk
What's the estimation of effort required to get mono buildable in windows and debuggable in VS? 6 man months? 18 man months? I do builds from master for Windows regularly (but on Linux using mingw-w64), so getting it to work shouldn't be anywhere near that difficult. I've seen someone on irc

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Alex J Lennon
On 16/10/2014 16:58, Bryan Crotaz wrote: What's the estimation of effort required to get mono buildable in windows and debuggable in VS? 6 man months? 18 man months? I don't have time to donate but I'd be happy to put some money in a pot with some of you to hire someone to work on this full

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-16 Thread Jonathan Chambers
Hello, I was maintaining the Visual Studio solution for the runtime and doing Windows development for a while but haven't kept up for a number of years now. We've had a number of build mono on Windows discussions over the years and various attempts at improving it. Breaking the discussion into

[Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-15 Thread Chris Eelmaa
Hello all, I have question regarding building mono on windows, namely I've tried a lot of times, and had a lot of different problems(such as missing some dependencies, git converting *.sh files to CRLF ending and cygwin not being able to interpret them, etc..) however I've reached now to a point

Re: [Mono-dev] Building mono on Windows issues.

2014-10-15 Thread Edward Ned Harvey (mono)
From: mono-devel-list-boun...@lists.ximian.com [mailto:mono-devel-list- boun...@lists.ximian.com] On Behalf Of Chris Eelmaa I have question regarding building mono on windows, namely I've tried a lot of times, and had a lot of different Many venture into the waters of mono build on windows.