Re: MD The I Ching in day-to-day practise!

2001-06-23 Thread Thracian Bard
Dear Rasheed, My apologies for not elaborating on the use of yarrow stalks and cyclical reading. Yarrow stalks are the stalks of the herb, yarrow which the traditional Taoist masters would grow as part of their apothecary. The stalks are cut and rubbed smooth at lengths of between 8 and 14

Re: MD re: A More Inclusive Truth

2001-06-23 Thread RISKYBIZ9
To John and Platt From Rog Roger: I agree both Gould and Platt live in flatland or SOM, and that they are very one dimensional. JB Did you really mean Platt? See his latest post (20th June). ROG: No, I meant Wright. Sorry Platt. Platt was the one that first suggested we were

RE: MD Real Libertarians Please Stand Up

2001-06-23 Thread Gerhard Ersdal
AreteLaugh, What examples of socialism have you seen? What in your mind is the difference between Libertarianism and Anarchism? Gerhard MOQ.ORG - http://www.moq.org Mail Archive - http://alt.venus.co.uk/hypermail/moq_discuss/ MD Queries - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from moq_discuss

RE: MD Real Libertarians Please Stand Up

2001-06-23 Thread N. Glen Dickey
I have only personally witnessed modern California and East Germany (DDR). The DDR I think I understood but some of the woolly thinking coming out of the Left in California. I can't understand why despite the complete defeat of Socialist theories of economic the Left persists in it's drive

RE: MD mescaline

2001-06-23 Thread N. Glen Dickey
Wim Nusselder and all, Wim Nusselder wrote: Analogous to that, I think that experiencing DQ may be fun for the drug user, but is not relevant for the world at large. It can't latch onto a (new) static pattern ofvalue, because it is forced on the user without any context of social

Re: MD mescaline

2001-06-23 Thread HisSheedness
Wim and Arete, It seems that drug use IS becoming an inextricable part of Western culture . The war on drugs to me is immoral. First of all, it costs ludicrous amounts of money. It also puts offenders in jail, possibly separating them a family with no other means of support. And in

Re: MD The I Ching in day-to-day practise!

2001-06-23 Thread HisSheedness
Thracian, Thanks a lot for the clarification. I read probably my favorite verse in there last nite, from 'Thunder': One moment of goodness in people's minds, and the mind of Tao appears; this is heaven. One moment of evil in the mind, and the human mentality acts; this is hell. Hell and

Re: MD mescaline

2001-06-23 Thread Enliten3
Wim: You are correct. When I responded to Evolve's mescaline query I didn't have a copy of Lila, so I was remembering my particular impression of what I had actually read. It's happened frequently that I will get a distinct impression of something Pirsig said, and then when I try to find the

Re: MD Real Libertarians Please Stand Up

2001-06-23 Thread Gerhard Ersdal
AreteLaugh, You wrote: Libertarianism might be summed as 1) Property and personal ownership, 2) Free interaction between consenting individuals and 3) A State that is limited to assisting it's citizens assert these rights in the face of aggression. I would assume an Anarchist would not believe

Re: MD mescaline

2001-06-23 Thread Andi Norby
It seems to me that the morality of drug use can't really be judged as one issue at all. Drugs are used for many reasons, and the specific reason one is using a drug can alter the affects it has on the user. That is, we can't forget that drugs are often used simply for pleasure to escape

MD An Ode to Quality

2001-06-23 Thread Platt Holden
Hi Everyone: For those who need objective evidence of Quality from *material examples* (as Pirsig suggested in his September 2000 letter to Bo Skutvik) here’s a wonderful compendium of specific examples from Judge John Voelker, Michigan Supreme Court, retired,. author of *Anatomy of Murder.*

Re: MD mescaline

2001-06-23 Thread HisSheedness
Hi Andrea. Are you a boy or a girl? We have another Andrea here, and it's a man, which confused me because i always thought 'Andrea' was a girl's name. But it's all cleared up now. That said, welcome to this mailing list. Your post was good, the only thing i question is your assertion