On Jun 28, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson wrote:
Hi Marsha
27 jun 2011 kl. 18.44 sMarsha wrote:
Not to be repeating myself, I neither accept the notion of freewill, nor
reject it. Same goes with determinism and causation. I accept that these
are conventional (static)
This last post should have addressed Jan-Anders, not Marsha - Marsha -
Marsha...
On Jun 28, 2011, at 2:30 AM, MarshaV wrote:
On Jun 28, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson wrote:
Hi Marsha
27 jun 2011 kl. 18.44 sMarsha wrote:
Not to be repeating myself, I neither accept
On Jun 27, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote:
On 6/26/11 9:55 PM, Ham Priday hampd...@verizon.net wrote:
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How can free will exist without an independent agent?
How can we be morally responsible if our values (and consequent actions) are
predetermined?
Experiential
Dmb,
Does James's definition of free will conform to the the standard dictionary
definition? If it does, why did we need all these quotes and explain it?
Marsha
On Jun 27, 2011, at 6:29 PM, david buchanan wrote:
Charlene wrote:
...The pragmatic method includes directives for
Dmb,
So while you chastise others for deviating from a standard english dictionary
definition, even for example when I cited resources addressing an expanded
Buddhist definition of reification, you offer in your discourse on free will
what you (dmb) says that Charlene says that James says
Hello Marsha
Thanks for your humble answer.
28 jun 2011 kl. 15.41 Marsho wrote:
On Jun 28, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson wrote:
Hi Marsha
27 jun 2011 kl. 18.44 sMarsha wrote:
Not to be repeating myself, I neither accept the notion of freewill, nor
reject it. Same goes with
On Jun 28, 2011, at 9:55 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson wrote:
Hello Marsha
Thanks for your humble answer.
28 jun 2011 kl. 15.41 Marsho wrote:
On Jun 28, 2011, at 1:40 AM, Jan-Anders Andersson wrote:
Hi Marsha
27 jun 2011 kl. 18.44 sMarsha wrote:
Not to be repeating myself, I
I know full well and never said that DMb believes in an omniscient superbeing.
My point of course is that I can't see why anyone who does not believe in such
a being would think predetermination is a real issue.
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 27, 2011, at 12:41 PM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
dmb said to Steve:
My main argument has been that freedom and constraint are both real because
both are known in experience. Super-beings, whatever that's supposed to mean,
don't have anything to do with it. I would accuse you of misconstruing my
position but that would be too generous. You're
Marsha asked dmb:
Does James's definition of free will conform to the the standard dictionary
definition? If it does, why did we need all these quotes and explain it?
dmb says:
Your question is predicated on a misconception. Dictionaries can only tell us
if we're using words properly. They
On Jun 28, 2011, at 12:21 PM, david buchanan wrote:
Marsha asked dmb:
Does James's definition of free will conform to the the standard dictionary
definition? If it does, why did we need all these quotes and explain it?
dmb says:
Your question is predicated on a misconception.
On 6/27/11 5:06 PM, Ham Priday hampd...@verizon.net wrote:
snip
You can't ride off in all directions on your horse because it would
violate the laws of nature which support the design and dynamics of
existence. These laws afford us a consistent, logical, and predictable
ground for
On 6/28/11 1:25 AM, MarshaV val...@att.net wrote:
On Jun 27, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Joseph Maurer wrote:
On 6/26/11 9:55 PM, Ham Priday hampd...@verizon.net wrote:
snip
How can free will exist without an independent agent?
How can we be morally responsible if our values (and
27 jun 2011 kl. 18.44 sMarsha wrote:
Not to be repeating myself, I neither accept the notion of freewill,
nor reject it. Same goes with determinism and causation. I accept that
these are conventional (static) notions, but not Ultimately real. While
living within a conventional culture it
On Tues, 6/28/11 at 4:23 PM, Joseph Maurer jh...@comcast.net wrote:
Hi Ham,
Free Will adds indeterminacy into our actions, otherwise they
wouldn't be free. What in me defines the indeterminate so that
actions are not predestined? Pirsig very cleverly suggested a
metaphysics DQ/SQ where DQ
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