[mou-net] Rice Creek birds

2010-11-11 Thread Keith Carlson
rats and beavers within less than a half mile of 35W. Keith Carlson keithec...@usfamily.net Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] Shoreview Pelicans

2012-03-10 Thread Keith Carlson
Saw two flocks of American White Pelicans flying west just north of 694 between Lexington and Rice St. around 5:30 p.m. Keith Carlson keithec...@usfamily.net Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] Spring arrivals

2012-03-18 Thread Keith Carlson
Park and Champlin. Keith Carlson keithec...@usfamily.net Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] North suburban yellow rump warblers

2012-04-09 Thread Keith Carlson
First yellow rump warblers of the season seen on Saturday, 4/7, at Crepeau Nature Preserve in Arden Hills. Ramsey County and then on Sunday, 4/8, at the Linwood Township/Linwood Elementary School Forest Park in Linwood, Anoka County. Keith Carlson keithec...@usfamily.net Join or Leave

[mou-net] Lake Phalen Horned Grebes

2012-04-11 Thread Keith Carlson
Horned grebes in full breeding plumage have made their brief seasonal return to the northwest side of Lake Phalen on the border of St. Paul and Maplewood in Ramsey County. Red breasted mergansers have been on the lake as well for a week or two. Keith Carlson keithec...@usfamily.net

[mou-net] Anoka County Redpolls

2012-11-04 Thread Keith Carlson
A flock of COMMON REDPOLLS was seen feeding on the catkins in the birch trees adjacent to the snowmobile trail running east from the public access in the county park on Linwood Lake in Linwood Township in Anoka County. I guess winter is coming early this year. Keith Carlson keithec

[mou-net] Brooklyn Park Bald Eagles

2012-11-10 Thread Keith Carlson
was one standing on a rock just sticking out just above the water level at the rapids below the U of M-owned island across from the Izaak Walton League property. I was surprised at the absence of migrating duck's - I saw just mallards and Canadian geese. Keith Carlson Roseville, MN keithec

[mou] contact legislators to save Sax Zim

2006-02-22 Thread Keith Carlson
and other environmental organizations should be contacted to take action on this issue as well. Keith Carlson keithec...@usfamily.net --- http://USFamily.Net/dialup.html - $8.25/mo! -- http://www.usfamily.net/dsl.html - $19.99/mo! ---

[mou-net] Elk River YR Warbler

2013-04-20 Thread Keith Carlson
and walking on the ski trails ruins them for skiing. Keith Carlson keithec...@usfamily.net Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] Horned Grebes on Lake Gervais

2013-05-04 Thread Keith Carlson
Saw three Horned Grebes on the north end of Lake Gervais in Little Canada, Ramsey County. Several Red Breasted Mergansers were there as well. Keith Carlson keithec...@usfamily.net Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu

[mou-net] Rose-Breasted Grosbeak Vocabulary

2013-05-29 Thread Keith Carlson
-Breasted Grosbeaks with this variation in its song or mimicking other bird species' calls? Keith Carlson keithec...@usfamily.net Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

Re: [mou-net] Kinnickinnic River Bald Eagle Stoop and Fish Capture

2013-08-18 Thread Keith Carlson
going to be. Keith Carlson Roseville, MN keithec...@usfamily.net Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] Yellow rumped warblers on ice

2014-04-15 Thread Keith Carlson
be crossed (to the Jabs Farm site), which turned my 4 1/2 mile hike into a 7 mile one. Despite the time of year, the entire trail besides the breached causeway/dam was dry and easily passable. Keith Carlson, Roseville, MN Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net

[mou-net] Lake of the Isles and Calhoun waaterfowl

2014-04-20 Thread Keith Carlson
Common loons on Isles, Canada geese, mallards pied bill grebes on both lakes, and Ruddy ducks and grebes on Calhoun Keith Carlson Roseville Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] Gateway trail birds

2014-05-09 Thread Keith Carlson
specias of lfycatchers I heard a couple of orioles but couldn't find them Keith Carlson Roseville, MN Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] Meadowlands Black-billed Magpie

2014-05-25 Thread Keith Carlson
a first for me. Keith Carlson Roseville, MN Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] New Years MNRV National Wildlife Refuge

2016-01-01 Thread Keith Carlson
Saw the following along Long Lake Trail below headquarters nature ctr. in Bloomington, Hennepin Co. Red bellied woodpecker Juncos White crowned sparrow Chickadees Northern Harrier, and likely Tree sparrows Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives:

[mou-net] Plenty of late season waterfowl at Lake Vadnais

2015-12-24 Thread Keith Carlson
ducks Canvasbacks Red breasted mergansers. Common goldeneye Mallards, Coot, and a solitary Hooded Merganser They were also gulls I did not ID, an immature Bald eagle, Crows, and I heard a very late season Kingfisher Keith Carlson, Roseville, MN Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi

[mou-net] correction to 11/24-25 Lake Vadnais post

2015-12-25 Thread Keith Carlson
Re: the below posted early Xmas morning, they were Common mergansers not Red breasted mergansers >>Lake Vadnais (Ramsey County), which is wide open, continues to provide excellent late season waterfowl viewing including: Trumpeter swans (Another flock flew in as I left and I believe they were

[mou-net] Osprey Hovering

2016-02-19 Thread Keith Carlson
off. I had forgotten over the winter that Ospey did this like Red Tail Hawks along freeway right of ways when hunting rodents. Keith Carlson Roseville, MN Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] Hovering Osprey May Have Been Light Phase Juvenile Rough-Legged Hawk.

2016-02-19 Thread Keith Carlson
: Keith Carlson <keitheca...@gmail.com> Date: Fri, Feb 19, 2016 at 10:14 PM Subject: Osprey Hovering To: "MOU-NET@lists.umn.edu" <MOU-NET@lists.umn.edu> On Jody Avenue just north of Withrow in Washington County, I enjoyed watching an Osprey hovering over a waterlogged field f

[mou-net] Vadnais Hts Purple Martins

2016-08-02 Thread Keith Carlson
On the trail along Lake Vadnais in Ramsey County, between Vadnais Blvd and County Rd. F, I saw several Purple Martins roosting in a cottonwood. Look for the white wash on the trail, and you will find their roost. Keith Carlson, Roseville, MN Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi

[mou-net] Open House on Trail Plans for Minnesota Valley National Wildlife Refuge at Cedar Avenue

2018-06-11 Thread Keith Carlson
State Park to Le Sueur. More information on the project is available at www.dnr.state.mn.us/state_trails/minnesota_valley/plans.html <http://www.dnr.state.mn.us/state_trails/minnesota_valley/plans.html?utm_content=_medium=email_name=_source=govdelivery_term=> . Keith Carlson keitheca...@gma

[mou-net] Trumpeter Swans, Northern Shrike and Winter Ducks

2017-12-30 Thread Keith Carlson
around one of the pools. Keith Carlson Roseville, MN Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] St. Anthony Falls waterfowl

2018-04-21 Thread Keith Carlson
Above the falls on the Mississippi and primarily above the RR bridge saw A lot of buffleheads Common goldeneye A red neck grebe pair A lone shoveler Several common loons Earlier in the day below the Ford bridge w/o binocs saw a lot of buffleheads as well with possibly some scaup and goldeneye

[mou-net] Thanks for help with evening bird call along East river road

2018-03-17 Thread Keith Carlson
Thanks for all who replied. It was an Eastern Screech Owl Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] falling up on my bird call ID

2018-03-16 Thread Keith Carlson
Following up on my original question, " As I walked East River Road north of the Ford Bridge Friday evening, at around 10 p.m., I heard a 4 to 5 second soft trill in the bluffs below me. Frequency and volume were constant. It repeated at 30 to 60 second intervals." Could it possibly be a snipe

[mou-net] help with iding bird call

2018-03-16 Thread Keith Carlson
As I walked East River Road north of the Ford Bridge Friday evening, at around 10 p.m., I heard a 4 to 5 second soft trill in the bluffs below me. Frequency and volume were constant. It repeated at 30 to 60 second intervals. Keith Carlson, Roseville Join or Leave mou-net: http

Re: [mou-net] Late fall birds Lebanon HIlls

2018-11-09 Thread Keith Carlson
I also saw a good-sized flock or tundra swans overfly my house in Roseville, Ramsey County while I was shoveling snow. I heard some swans earlier before I heard and saw the swans overflying my house so they may have spent the night on Lake Owasso across the street from my home. Keith Carlson

[mou-net] Late fall birds Lebanon HIlls

2018-11-09 Thread Keith Carlson
Saw the following at Lebanon HIlls Park in Eagan, Dakota County : - mallards - ring necked ducks - golden crown kinglet - a pair of red bellied woodpeckers - Canada geese - hairy woodpecker - fox sparrow It's been a long time since I've sen a kinglet so I was pretty pleased. Keith Carlson

[mou-net] Roseville spring arrivals.

2019-03-31 Thread Keith Carlson
intersection with 122nd St. N. a Sandhill Crane going thru courtship display (leaping into the air) for his potential mate. Keith Carlson keitheca...@gmail.com Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] Afton State Park birds & question about cold weather effects on bird activity level

2019-04-29 Thread Keith Carlson
ow-rumpeds? Keith Carlson Roseville, MN keitheca...@gmail.com Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] Horned Grebes on Lake Phalen and Lake Gervais on Monday, 4/29

2019-04-29 Thread Keith Carlson
Ducks too but they were to far out to positively ID Ruddy ducks were on Gervais Keith Carlson Roseville, MN keitheca...@gmail.com Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] FOY Yellow Rumped Warblers

2020-04-09 Thread Keith Carlson
saw a couple of Yellow Rumped Warblers on the Winchell Trail (below W. River rd.) between 38th and 44th St. in Mpls. Wednesday. Also a magnificent mature Bald Eagle at eye height just 15 ft away in the crown of an oak on the bluff besides the trail Keith Carlson Roseville, MN keitheca

[mou-net] Springbrook Nature Center, Fridley , Anoka Co. birds

2020-04-13 Thread Keith Carlson
, one of which perched on the boardwalk rail and would not move. It chose instead to hiss at me as I gave it as wide a berth as possible while walking by. Keith Carlson Roseville, MN keitheca...@gmail.com Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http

[mou-net] Andover, Anoka County birds

2020-04-12 Thread Keith Carlson
far wooded edge along with a number of deer, at least three Sandhill Cranes. Keith Carlson keitheca...@gmail.com Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] 1st Sand Hill Crane of the Season

2020-03-15 Thread Keith Carlson
Heard then saw high in the ski my first sandhill crane of the season flying high to the west of the Hyland Three Rivers Park recreation area building in Bloomington, Hennepin County Keith Carlson Roseville, MN Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives

[mou-net] Two more signs of spring.

2020-03-16 Thread Keith Carlson
one in Roseville at the marsh north of South Owasso Blvd. Keith Carlson Roseville, MN Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] Northern Harrier Washington County

2020-04-04 Thread Keith Carlson
Spotted a Northern Harrier Hawk flying across Manning Ave. immediately south of Washington CR 4 Saturday afternoon, 4/5. A number of Buffleheads were in the ponds in the ponds along Manning going south from there. Keith Carlson Roseville, MN keitheca...@gmail.com Join or Leave mou-net

[mou-net] Tundra Swan Overflight

2020-03-26 Thread Keith Carlson
, which is partially open, and then decided to keep going? Keith Carlson keitheca...@gmail.com Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] Early spring birds at Afton State Park

2020-03-28 Thread Keith Carlson
Beat the rain and got in a 5.5 mile/2 hour hike at Afton State Park I heard but never saw an Eastern Meadowlark several times in the upland prairie. While looking at an oddly shaped mullen from last year with hopes that the bulge on top was the Meadowlark, I did see two sandhill cranes in the

[mou-net] First Bluebirds at Purgatory Creek Park

2020-03-30 Thread Keith Carlson
Saw my first Bluebirds of the year early Sunday evening at the Purgatory Creek Park in SW Minnetonka, Hennepin Co. Keith Carlson Roseville, MN Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html

[mou-net] Scarlet Tanagers in Roseville

2020-05-17 Thread Keith Carlson
not one, but three Scarlet Tanagers in our back yard along with a couple of Baltimore Orioles. Couple of different warblers too likely a Pine and Yellow Rumped but too high up in the leaves for me to see them well enough in the rain. Keith Carlson, Roseville, MN keitheca...@gmail.com Join

[mou-net] Snail Lake Blackburnian Warbler

2020-05-13 Thread Keith Carlson
Saw FOY Blackburnian and Black and White Warblers as well as an egret and a Great Blue Heron with crest and "mane" beautifully displayed on the trail circling the flooded marsh across from the Snail Lake Beach in Shoreview. Keith Carlson Roseville Join or Leave mou

[mou-net] Empire Township Tundra Swans

2020-03-17 Thread Keith Carlson
At the small wetland/swale immediately southwest of the intersection of Dakota Co. Rd. 66 and Blaine Ave., about 50 tundra swans were resting and feeding late Tuesday afternoon. Keith Carlson, Roseville, MN keitheca...@gmail.com Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1

[mou-net] Schmidt Lake & Salem Park (Mtn.Bike trail), Inver Grove Hts. & White Bear Lake, White Bear

2020-10-21 Thread Keith Carlson
of around 15 Red wing Blackbirds Keith Carlson keitheca...@gmail.com Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html During the pandemic, the MOU encourages you to stay safe, practice social distancing, and continue to bird

[mou-net] Help w. IDing large beaked bird in next in Roseville's Central Park

2020-06-26 Thread Keith Carlson
birds are in the nest on a branch of a pine tree. I think they are at least a couple of weeks from fledging. My guess is they are night herons. If anybody knows, I'd appreciate your insight. Keith Carlson Roseville, MN keitheca...@gmail.com Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin

Re: [mou-net] Help w. IDing large beaked bird in next in Roseville's Central Park

2020-06-27 Thread Keith Carlson
Sorry u r correct. Lake Bennet is west of the Victoria St. parking lot. Keith Carlson keitheca...@gmail.com On Sat, Jun 27, 2020 at 11:46 AM Faye Herold wrote: > Keith, wouldn't you be heading west from the parking lot? > > Faye Herold > > Sent from my iPad > > > On J

Re: [mou-net] Help w. IDing large beaked bird in next in Roseville's Central Park

2020-06-27 Thread Keith Carlson
There are no other nests that I know of nearby. I did n't know night herons were social nesters, so maybe they are green herons. it's just their beaks are so big relative to their bodies. Maybe it's deceptive because of their youth. ... Keith Carlson keitheca...@gmail.com On Sat, Jun 27

[mou-net] Nice variety of waterfowl species on Lake Phalen (Ramsey County)

2021-04-23 Thread Keith Carlson
to the city's marina/rental bldg on the west shore. One pair of mergansers came closer to shore. There were a few solitary Pied Billed Grebes and Mallards along the shoreline with some Canada Geese in the channel from Keller Lake Keith Carlson keitheca...@gmail.com Join or Leave mou-net: http

[mou-net] Villa Park Roseville and Lake Phalen sightings

2021-04-27 Thread Keith Carlson
Saw our first Green Herons of the year along with Wood Ducks Canada Geese Egrets Mallards Red Wing Blackbird Yellow Rumped Warbler, and Turkeys and heard Red Bellied Woodpeckers at Villa Park, Roseville At Lake Phalen, Maplewood, we were treated to a nice over-flight of about 35 White

[mou-net] SandHill Cranes heard Hyland Park Bloomington

2021-03-15 Thread Keith Carlson
While cross country skiing, I heard a SandHill Crane south of the Hyland Park Reserve Recreation Center in Bloomington. Same area where I saw a crane flying over the rec ctr. parking lot last year at this time. Join or Leave mou-net: http://lists.umn.edu/cgi-bin/wa?SUBED1=mou-net Archives:

[mou-net] Is coral colored staining a reliable way to distinguish tundra from trumpeter swans?

2021-04-20 Thread Keith Carlson
Can anybody tell me if coral or pinkish brown staining of the head is a reliable way to distinguish tundra swans from trumpeter swans. Saw quite a few with those colored heads on the wildlife drive at the Sherburne National Wildlife Refuge last Saturday and I was guessing they were tundra but was

[mou-net] first redpoll of my winter

2021-12-11 Thread Keith Carlson
Blue Jays Earlier in my walk a few blocks west, I heard a Red Tail Hawk and at least a couple of Red Bellied Woodpeckers Keith Carlson Roseville, MN keitheca...@gmail.com General information and guidelines for posting: https://moumn.org/listservice.html Archives: http://lists.umn.edu

[mou-net] Early spring sightings

2022-03-25 Thread Keith Carlson
and Canada Geese. Keith Carlson keitheca...@gmail.com General information and guidelines for posting: https://moumn.org/listservice.html Archives: http://lists.umn.edu/archives/mou-net.html During the pandemic, the MOU encourages you to stay safe, practice social distancing, and continue

[mou-net] Hooded mergansers and where did RWB's go

2022-03-31 Thread Keith Carlson
anybody tell me where they went? I hiked Oakdale Nature Area this afternoon with marsh habitat and lots of frozen vernal ponds that had to have been open before Tuesday evening's snow . I did not hear or see a one in what should have been ideal habitat. Keith Carlson keitheca...@gmail.com

[mou-net] Bloomington Trumpeter Swans

2022-03-20 Thread Keith Carlson
While at the Hyland Hills recreation area, had two separately sightings of Trumpeter Swans, one group of three when I arrived at ten and one pair when I departed after country skiing about 40 minutes later - both flying low to the north to the west of the parking lot. General information

[mou-net] More spring birds

2022-04-18 Thread Keith Carlson
On Friday at the Hugo dog park I saw the first Eastern Bluebirds of the season. Today at Lilydale Park at the eastern (St. Paul) end saw my first Golden Crowned KInglet of the season. Keith Carlson keitheca...@gmail.com General information and guidelines for posting: https://moumn.org

[mou-net] Ànybody seen Yellow headed blackbirds at 180th St. Marsh?

2022-05-27 Thread Keith Carlson
I stopped by the 180th St. Marsh north of Vermilion, Dakota County on Thursday hoping to see Yellow headed blackbirds as I have in the past but was skunked. Has anybody seen this year or was I perhaps looking too early in the year? General information and guidelines for posting:

[mou-net] Anhinga/Cormorant-like behavior by turkey vultures

2022-10-12 Thread Keith Carlson
an Anhinga or Cormorant. I don't know if they were the ones that were kettling or not. I have never observed this behavior with Vultures before but haven't seen a group roosting before either. Is this common Vulture behavior or not? Keith Carlson keitheca...@gmail.com General information

Re: [mou-net] MOU-NET Digest - 6 Jan 2023 to 7 Jan 2023 (#2023-5)

2023-01-08 Thread Keith Carlson
they ultimately roosted together nearby. Keith Carlson keitheca...@gmail.com On Sun, Jan 8, 2023 at 12:00 AM MOU-NET automatic digest system < lists...@lists.umn.edu> wrote: > There is 1 message totaling 54 lines in this issue. > > Topics of the day: > > 1. Big Crow Roost

Re: [mou-net] Would last Tuesday's rain cause Bald Eagles to abandon their nest and eggs

2023-02-18 Thread Keith Carlson
len? maybe we should head over there one of these days > to > see whether the eagles returned . . . . > Cheers, > Val C. > > > On Feb 18, 2023, at 6:33 PM, Keith Carlson > wrote: > > > > My wife and I had been observing one or the other of a pair of eagles

[mou-net] Would last Tuesday's rain cause Bald Eagles to abandon their nest and eggs

2023-02-18 Thread Keith Carlson
to confirm whether it was that or caring for hatched babies because of the height of the nest and its distance from the road. Regardless, the day-long rain we had be enough to get eagles to abandon their nest? Keith Carlson keitheca...@gmail.com General information and guidelines for posting

[mou-net] Late white throated sparrow and other Nine Mile Creek birds

2023-12-31 Thread Keith Carlson
At the 1st bridge to the right on the trail down from the Old Shakopee Rd. trailhead, I saw a late white throated sparrow in the bushes to the left of the bridge on the other side of the creek. Other birds seen include mallards crows chickadees unidentified hawk Immature bald eagles on 35w

[mou-net] Lots of waterfowl on Lake Phalen today

2023-12-08 Thread Keith Carlson
LAKE Phalen is wide open with lots of Trumpeter Swans Hooded mergansers Probably a few Common mergansers (Golden doesn't have any fall images in it nor can I find fall male images online) A few Common Goldeneye Coot Mallards Canada geese unIDed gulls General information and guidelines for

[mou-net] Canada Geese Occupying Eagles Nest

2024-04-12 Thread Keith Carlson
months but usually leave the nest 1-2 days after hatching to swim and walk. Can they possibly survive a fall of 40 to 50 feet ala Wood Ducklings? Keith Carlson keitheca...@gmail.com General information and guidelines for posting: https://moumn.org/listservice.html Archives: http://lists.umn.edu