Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-21 Thread JTK
Chris Hoess wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], JTK wrote: Chris Hoess wrote: [snip] So, my WAT (wild-ass theory now) is that the letter b will solve this problem. Before you go promoting this again, your interpretation is tangential to my point. The reason I mentioned the

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-21 Thread JTK
Pratik wrote: On 12/20/2001 11:47 PM, JTK wrote: snipping all the crap Crap huh? We back to it's all a dream now? Well again, I run IE through the same exact Proxomitron, and view the exact same CNN, and get two different behaviors. Either two programs are broken in such a way that

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-21 Thread gavin long
JTK wrote: Pratik wrote: snipping all the crap Crap huh? We back to it's all a dream now? The question still stands. Did you try out what the bug suggests? Yes or No? No. You're hurling abuse at the one person in here who is trying to help you? And not bothering to find out if

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-21 Thread DeMoN LaG
gavin long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 21 Dec 2001: You're hurling abuse at the one person in here who is trying to help you? And not bothering to find out if what he suggests will help? I'd tell the world what I think of your behaviour, but it

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-21 Thread Pratik
On 12/21/01 08:08 AM, JTK wrote: snipping all the crap Crap huh? We back to it's all a dream now? Crap because I was more interested in the interaction than stuff about CRLF. If what I suggested didn't work, then I would have gone back and paid more attention to what you said. The

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-21 Thread DeMoN LaG
Pratik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 21 Dec 2001: Agreed. But would you please help us figure out who is the culprit? Just saying Mozilla is doesn't help. If you can answer my questions, then maybe we can decide its Mozilla but if you don't we don't

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-21 Thread JTK
gavin long wrote: JTK wrote: Pratik wrote: snipping all the crap Crap huh? We back to it's all a dream now? The question still stands. Did you try out what the bug suggests? Yes or No? No. You're hurling abuse at the one person in here who is trying to help

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-21 Thread Pratik
On 12/21/01 01:24 PM, JTK wrote: snip You're hurling abuse at the one person in here who is trying to help you? 1. I'm trying to help him. He's the AOL employee. Whoa! Let me get this straight. You think I'm an AOL employee?? I've nevber seen an AOL office in my life! (nor Netscape

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-21 Thread JTK
: Subject: Re: It's December 14th again! From: Pratik [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 11:21:58 -0500 Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.general Path: secnews.netscape.com!not-for-mail Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.general Organization: Another Netscape Collabra

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-21 Thread Pratik
On 12/21/01 02:22 PM, JTK wrote: Subject: Re: It's December 14th again! From: JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2001 13:22:53 -0600 Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.general Not snipping

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-20 Thread JTK
Pratik wrote: [snip] Is there anyone else seeing this bug? I go to cnn.com all the time and I haven't seen it. Do you have the same cache setting? Same OS (Why2K)? The HTTP headers from cnn.com say HTTP/1.1 200 OKCRLF Server: Netscape-Enterprise/4.1CRLF Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-20 Thread David Gerard
On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:58:07 -0600, JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Go to CNN one day, go to it a few days later and you'll see the exact :same page until you hit the reload button. Few days being say over the :weekend. Nothing more to it. Are you going through a proxy? If not, are you sure,

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-20 Thread Christian Biesinger
JTK wrote: Pratik wrote: The HTTP headers from cnn.com say HTTP/1.1 200 OKCRLF Server: Netscape-Enterprise/4.1CRLF Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:28:30 GMTCRLF Last-modified: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:28:31 GMTCRLF Expires: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:29:31 GMTCRLF Cache-control: private,max-age=60CRLF

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-20 Thread Pratik
On 12/20/01 04:58 AM, JTK wrote: Pratik wrote: [snip] Is there anyone else seeing this bug? I go to cnn.com all the time and I haven't seen it. Do you have the same cache setting? Same OS (Why2K)? Same cache setting on Linux. The HTTP headers from cnn.com say HTTP/1.1

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-20 Thread Chris Hoess
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Christian Biesinger wrote: JTK wrote: Pratik wrote: The HTTP headers from cnn.com say HTTP/1.1 200 OKCRLF Server: Netscape-Enterprise/4.1CRLF Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:28:30 GMTCRLF Last-modified: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 23:28:31 GMTCRLF Expires: Wed, 19 Dec 2001

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-20 Thread JTK
David Gerard wrote: On Thu, 20 Dec 2001 03:58:07 -0600, JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :Go to CNN one day, go to it a few days later and you'll see the exact :same page until you hit the reload button. Few days being say over the :weekend. Nothing more to it. Are you going through

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-20 Thread JTK
Pratik wrote: Do you have the same cache setting? Same OS (Why2K)? Same cache setting on Linux. A, that's bolstering my CR/LF WAG. Let me make a WAG: it's the CR/LF line ends. Nope. Thats just the way websniffer displays it

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-20 Thread Chris Hoess
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], JTK wrote: Pratik wrote: Nope. Thats just the way websniffer displays it (http://webtools.mozilla.org/web-sniffer/). Thats not the fault. Is the cache and specifically the headers written thereto plaintext? If so, I upgrade my WAG to a WAH (wild-ass

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-20 Thread Erik Harris
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 18:28:01 +0100, Sören Kuklau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1st it's December 17th, not 14th. 2nd I have no clue what you're talking about, probably because I'm not from the U.S. I _AM_ from the US, and I think that posted has obviously lost his mind. :-) Erik Harris

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-20 Thread JTK
Chris Hoess wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], JTK wrote: Pratik wrote: Nope. Thats just the way websniffer displays it (http://webtools.mozilla.org/web-sniffer/). Thats not the fault. Is the cache and specifically the headers written thereto plaintext? If so, I upgrade my

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-20 Thread Pratik
On 12/20/2001 11:47 PM, JTK wrote: snipping all the crap Well again, I run IE through the same exact Proxomitron, and view the exact same CNN, and get two different behaviors. Either two programs are broken in such a way that the errors cancel each other out, or one program has a broken cache.

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-20 Thread DeMoN LaG
Pratik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 21 Dec 2001: The question still stands. Did you try out what the bug suggests? Yes or No? And did that solve your problem? Yes or No? My guesses: No N/A -- ICQ: N/A (temporarily) AIM: FlyersR1 9 email: [EMAIL

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-20 Thread Chris Hoess
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], JTK wrote: Chris Hoess wrote: In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], JTK wrote: Pratik wrote: Nope. Thats just the way websniffer displays it (http://webtools.mozilla.org/web-sniffer/). Thats not the fault. Is the cache and specifically the headers written

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-19 Thread S. Merde
Not that I know the FUBAR acronym. Gotta look it up... - Hmm... http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exactAcronym=FUBARFind=Fi nd Which one? Regards, Sören Kuklau Fucked Up Beyond All Recognition, is the one I'm used to. S. Merde

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-19 Thread JTK
Sören Kuklau wrote: JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Mozilla's cache is FUBAR, resulting in me seeing CNN as it was three, four, five days ago. Not that I know the FUBAR acronym. Gotta look it up... Sorry, your english is too good,

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-19 Thread JTK
Bradley Baetz wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:43:20 -0600, JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sören Kuklau wrote: Umm... 1st it's December 17th, not 14th. See that's what I thought. But according to Mozilla's cache, NOPE! It's still the 14th! So, noone else is seeing this. Nobody else

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-19 Thread Pratik
On 12/19/01 05:52 PM, JTK wrote: Subject: Re: It's December 14th again! From: JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2001 16:52:44 -0600 Newsgroups: netscape.public.mozilla.general Pratik wrote

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-19 Thread JTK
Pratik wrote: On 12/17/2001 12:17 PM, JTK wrote: Wow, that's great! I'm just like that TV show - I can find out what tragic events happened three days ago, and armed with that postscient knowledge, make sure they never happened! Why I'd be a regular hero, except of course, nobody

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-19 Thread Arthur
Allthough I promised myself not to reply on treads wich bear the signature of JTK, I'd like to warn Pratik not to take JTK serious. He is posting these annouying messages for a while now and keeps on nagging about his beloved IE browser and still keeps using Mozilla. If he'd listen to some

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-19 Thread DeMoN LaG
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 19 Dec 2001: As I said to Pratik, thanks for taking some interest in this problem and not being LaG-gy. The problem is that you hate the entire project and probably aren't even seeing the problem yourself. You

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-19 Thread Chris Hoess
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], JTK wrote: Bradley Baetz wrote: So, noone else is seeing this. Nobody else is admitting that they see this. If you really think that there's a conspiracy by Mozilla/AOL-TW/the Trilateral Commission to suppress all the failed smoketests that this bug

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-19 Thread Sören Kuklau
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Sören Kuklau wrote: JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Mozilla's cache is FUBAR, resulting in me seeing CNN as it was three, four, five days ago.

It's December 14th again!

2001-12-17 Thread JTK
Wow, that's great! I'm just like that TV show - I can find out what tragic events happened three days ago, and armed with that postscient knowledge, make sure they never happened! Why I'd be a regular hero, except of course, nobody could ever find out about my amazing ability to see into

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-17 Thread Ian Thomas
Sören Kuklau wrote: Umm... 1st it's December 17th, not 14th. Thats his point. 2nd I have no clue what you're talking about, probably because I'm not from the U.S. I think he is talking about the TV show '7 days'. Basically, whenever a tragic event happened, this guy would go back in

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-17 Thread Sören Kuklau
Umm... 1st it's December 17th, not 14th. 2nd I have no clue what you're talking about, probably because I'm not from the U.S. 3rd how's this related to Mozilla again? JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... Wow, that's great! I'm just like

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-17 Thread JTK
Sören Kuklau wrote: Umm... 1st it's December 17th, not 14th. See that's what I thought. But according to Mozilla's cache, NOPE! It's still the 14th! 2nd I have no clue what you're talking about, probably because I'm not from the U.S. Well the cache problems are probably not

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-17 Thread JTK
Ian Thomas wrote: [snip] I think he is talking about the TV show '7 days'. Basically, whenever a tragic event happened, this guy would go back in time seven days and stop it from happening. Yeah, same idea, but I was actually thinking of the one where the guy got tomorrow's newspaper

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-17 Thread Sören Kuklau
cryptic to me. (I'm not native English) So I thought the show's name was It's December 14th again or so? Well anyways, I now understand. Well I usually don't experience these caching problems you're talking about... weird. 2nd I have no clue what you're talking about, probably because I'm not from

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-17 Thread dman84
ell your message was a bit cryptic to me. (I'm not native English) So I thought the show's name was It's December 14th again or so? Well anyways, I now understand. Well I usually don't experience these caching problems you're talking about... weird. 2nd I have no clue what you're talking about,

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-17 Thread Sören Kuklau
dman84 [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... as in Messed up.. screwed, hosed. :) ** up? ;-) SCNR

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-17 Thread Morten Nilsen
dman84 wrote: Sören Kuklau wrote: Not that I know the FUBAR acronym. Gotta look it up... as in Messed up.. screwed, hosed. :) I don't know it's origin, but I got it from Babylon 5... as Mr Garibaldi would say: This mission is about to be FUBAR which was then said to mean Fucked Up Beyond All

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-17 Thread Bradley Baetz
On Mon, 17 Dec 2001 12:43:20 -0600, JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sören Kuklau wrote: Umm... 1st it's December 17th, not 14th. See that's what I thought. But according to Mozilla's cache, NOPE! It's still the 14th! So, noone else is seeing this. If you go to advanced-cache in

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-17 Thread DeMoN LaG
Sören Kuklau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in 9vlij2$[EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:9vlij2$[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 17 Dec 2001: Kinda like the Mozilla situation, only in complete reverse. Well situation _for_you_. No, if I were in your position, I wouldn't like this caching trouble either, but this never

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-17 Thread DeMoN LaG
Sören Kuklau [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in news:9vln7l$n4c1 @ripley.netscape.com, on 17 Dec 2001: dman84 [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... as in Messed up.. screwed, hosed. :) ** up? ;-) SCNR F* up beyond all recognition

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-17 Thread DeMoN LaG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bradley Baetz) wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 17 Dec 2001: So, noone else is seeing this. If you go to advanced-cache in your prefs, what are the cache settings? It should be set to automatically. Bradley *Has visions of the Never Button

Re: It's December 14th again!

2001-12-17 Thread Pratik
On 12/17/2001 12:17 PM, JTK wrote: Wow, that's great! I'm just like that TV show - I can find out what tragic events happened three days ago, and armed with that postscient knowledge, make sure they never happened! Why I'd be a regular hero, except of course, nobody could ever find out