Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-27 Thread Sören Kuklau
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The Type/Creator code system is not such a bad idea. remember you have 4 places in creator code and Type code. You can concevieably use any of the 26 letters in the alphabet in each

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-27 Thread JTK
DeMoN LaG wrote: JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 26 Dec 2001: My great-grandchildren will be driving to work in nuclear-powered hovercraft and eating their meals in pill form by then. And I bet their hovercraft and the machine that

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-27 Thread Melissa 'Liss' Tyson
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Well I can vouch there is at least one end user testing Mozilla. grin (myself) *waves hand* You can add me to that list, too. Although most my friends are geeks and computer professionals of some sort, I'm just a general happy Linux user. I've enjoyed

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-27 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
DeMoN LaG wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 26 Dec 2001: Unless things have changed since DOS/W3.11.W 95 days when you double click on an application you have to browse to the application you desire open said

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-27 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
JTK wrote: -snip- I thought Netscape was AOL. They've never helped end users with anything other than teach them the hard way how much of the internet they were missing. Actually Netscape is owned by a Partnership (equally) of SUN and AOL AOL is interested in the

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-27 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
Travis Crump wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: The Type/Creator code system is not such a bad idea. remember you have 4 places in creator code and Type code. You can concevieably use any of the 26 letters in the alphabet in each place. I hope my math is right but the are 26 to the

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-27 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
Sören Kuklau wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... The Type/Creator code system is not such a bad idea. remember you have 4 places in creator code and Type code. You can concevieably use any of the 26

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-27 Thread Sören Kuklau
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb im Newsbeitrag [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... You do have to remember though that the 26^4 possibility is just for the Type Code or the Creator code by itself. If you consider both together that means that there are 26^4

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-27 Thread DeMoN LaG
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 27 Dec 2001: what do PC users do in the case of a file with a .doc extension. when they have both Word, WordPerfect, and AmiPro? Either drag and drop it onto the .exe or a shortcut to the .exe,

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-27 Thread DeMoN LaG
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 27 Dec 2001: You do have to remember though that the 26^4 possibility is just for the Type Code or the Creator code by itself. If you consider both together that means that there are 26^4

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-27 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
DeMoN LaG wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 27 Dec 2001: what do PC users do in the case of a file with a .doc extension. when they have both Word, WordPerfect, and AmiPro? Either drag and drop it onto the .exe

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-27 Thread DeMoN LaG
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 27 Dec 2001: I am not trying to say one method is better or worse. Just rying to explain the differences. The difference, as I see it, is Netscape 6 is a replacement to Netscape 4. On

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread Boris Zbarsky
Here is the page location. http://www.oo-xx.com/bbs/ The page creates a scroller div and sets its height to 30px. Then it forgets to actually set overflow to scroll for that div. As a result overflow is visible. Now the div has a height of 30px, so the following content starts 30px below

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
DeMoN LaG wrote: -snip- Considering there is no one to complain to at Mozilla, as there is no end user support, I fail to see how this is an issue Well I can vouch there is at least one end user testing Mozilla. grin (myself) I know others as well that are too. Although

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread Jonas Jørgensen
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Considering there is no one to complain to at Mozilla, as there is no end user support, I fail to see how this is an issue Well I can vouch there is at least one end user testing Mozilla. grin (myself) I know others as well that are too. Although they do

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
Jonas Jørgensen wrote: ---snip--- Mozilla is targeted at developers. If you are an end user, wouldn't you be better off with Beonex or Netscape instead? -- /Jonas actually no. on the Mac Platform Netscape 6 and Communicator 4.7.9 share the exact same Type and creator

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread JTK
Hmmm, this quadruple-spacing is still here. Jonas Jørgensen wrote: Subject: Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly From: Jonas Jørgensen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 26 Dec 2001 17:58:00

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread DeMoN LaG
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 26 Dec 2001: snip usual worthless drivel NETSCAPE HAS A DIFFERENT SPLASH SCREEN AND THAT SOMEHOW MAKES IT END-USER USABLE! Netscape is a company with money to provide people to help end users with problems. If

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread Jonas Jørgensen
DeMoN LaG wrote: actually no. on the Mac Platform Netscape 6 and Communicator 4.7.9 share the exact same Type and creator Codes APPL / MOSS. Shoulda kept your mouth shut, Jonas. Now we gotta here the whole speel about type and creator codes again. Sorry. I don't know much about

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread Jonas Jørgensen
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Mozilla is targeted at developers. If you are an end user, wouldn't you be better off with Beonex or Netscape instead? actually no. on the Mac Platform Netscape 6 and Communicator 4.7.9 share the exact same Type and creator Codes APPL / MOSS. ...and what

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread Jonas Jørgensen
JTK wrote: Mozilla is targeted at developers. If you are an end user, wouldn't you be better off with Beonex or Netscape instead? Indeed. Those are known to be defect-free. I never said that Netscape 6 was defect free. But it doesn't have Debug and QA menus, and it doesn't contain

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread Sören Kuklau
Because the point of the creator codes is to have them equal for _one_ application. Netscape 6 is, by the name (!), a new version of Netscape. So Commun. 4.x and Netsc. 6 have the same creator code. Netscape _should_ leave the same code. Jonas can change it on his own if it bugs him that much.

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread JTK
Jonas Jørgensen wrote: JTK wrote: Mozilla is targeted at developers. If you are an end user, wouldn't you be better off with Beonex or Netscape instead? Indeed. Those are known to be defect-free. I never said that Netscape 6 was defect free. But it doesn't have Debug and QA

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread DeMoN LaG
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 26 Dec 2001: Huh?!? The whole THING is only half done! And half is rather generous. So half done that CNet, ZDNet and TechTV, among many other places, have ranked it equal to or better than IE6. Imagine when

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread Christian Biesinger
Jonas Jørgensen wrote: Mozilla is targeted at developers. No, alas it's not... Features like the default for Save Page being Complete Page, using the title as the default filename for Save Page, a _very_ poorly implemented full screen mode and others show that Mozilla is in fact targeted

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread David W. Fenton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (JTK) wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: David W. Fenton wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JTK) wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the overall theory of operation of Mozilla is to completely crap out if an I isn't crossed or a T isn't dotted in the HTML*, but what do you expect from AOL?

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread David W. Fenton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jonas Jørgensen) wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Mozilla is targeted at developers. If you are an end user, wouldn't you be better off with Beonex or Netscape instead? No. Netscape sucks and has all sorts of crap I don't want. Mozilla is *great* for end users, even in the

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
DeMoN LaG wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 26 Dec 2001: actually no. on the Mac Platform Netscape 6 and Communicator 4.7.9 share the exact same Type and creator Codes APPL / MOSS. Shoulda kept your mouth shut,

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.
Jonas Jørgensen wrote: Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: Mozilla is targeted at developers. If you are an end user, wouldn't you be better off with Beonex or Netscape instead? actually no. on the Mac Platform Netscape 6 and Communicator 4.7.9 share the exact same Type and creator

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread DeMoN LaG
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 26 Dec 2001: Unless things have changed since DOS/W3.11.W 95 days when you double click on an application you have to browse to the application you desire open said document. Or you have topen

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
NETSCAPE HAS A DIFFERENT SPLASH SCREEN AND THAT SOMEHOW MAKES IT END-USER USABLE! Netscape is a company with money to provide people to help end users with problems. If Mozilla were to allocate resources and people to help out end users, there would be no work going on towards the project.

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread JTK
DeMoN LaG wrote: JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 26 Dec 2001: snip usual worthless drivel NETSCAPE HAS A DIFFERENT SPLASH SCREEN AND THAT SOMEHOW MAKES IT END-USER USABLE! Netscape is a company with money to provide people to help end

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread JTK
DeMoN LaG wrote: JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 26 Dec 2001: Huh?!? The whole THING is only half done! And half is rather generous. So half done that CNet, ZDNet and TechTV, among many other places, have ranked it equal to or better

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread Simon Montagu
JTK wrote: I don't recall ever claiming to be so damned smart; just old enough to know better. So why don't you?

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread Travis Crump
Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T. wrote: The Type/Creator code system is not such a bad idea. remember you have 4 places in creator code and Type code. You can concevieably use any of the 26 letters in the alphabet in each place. I hope my math is right but the are 26 to the fourth power different

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread JTK
David W. Fenton wrote: [snip] If IE had not been designed to render invalid HTML (i.e., guessing what the web page is *supposed* to look like), then there would not be all these load-of-crap HTML editors that produce invalid HTML, since users would discard them when they saw that

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread JTK
Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote: NETSCAPE HAS A DIFFERENT SPLASH SCREEN AND THAT SOMEHOW MAKES IT END-USER USABLE! Netscape is a company with money to provide people to help end users with problems. If Mozilla were to allocate resources and people to help out end users, there would be no work

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread DeMoN LaG
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 26 Dec 2001: My great-grandchildren will be driving to work in nuclear-powered hovercraft and eating their meals in pill form by then. And I bet their hovercraft and the machine that dispenses their pills runs an

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-26 Thread DeMoN LaG
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 27 Dec 2001: And yet it's missing. Maybe their was only decaf in the webmaster's lunchroom that day, who knows. And what the heck, let's raise the stakes a little - the web page with the missing /TABLE is patient

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-25 Thread JTK
Pascal Chevrel wrote: [snip] Could you please tell me which mozilla pages are not wtandard compliant ? Apart from a missing DTD on the frontpage, Bingo. The patch has been sitting in Bugzilla for months if not years. It's one fricken line. Yet there it sits.

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-25 Thread Yeh You-Ying
basic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]... if you can, put the page up somewhere where we can test it. The last time I checked that URL I got a DATA ERROR message or some sort. Here is the page location. http://www.oo-xx.com/bbs/ Please test it. Thanks. :-)

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-25 Thread David W. Fenton
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (JTK) wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the overall theory of operation of Mozilla is to completely crap out if an I isn't crossed or a T isn't dotted in the HTML*, but what do you expect from AOL? I mean hell, it's not like they own Time Warner or something! If IE had not been

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-25 Thread JTK
David W. Fenton wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (JTK) wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: the overall theory of operation of Mozilla is to completely crap out if an I isn't crossed or a T isn't dotted in the HTML*, but what do you expect from AOL? I mean hell, it's not like they own Time Warner or

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-25 Thread DeMoN LaG
JTK [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 26 Dec 2001: Yep, I as a web user somehow care about that. Right, you get the job of explaining that to the dozens of Mozilla users. Considering there is no one to complain to at Mozilla, as there is no end user

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-24 Thread flacco
Well, after validating the page (or attempting to) using HTML 4.01 strict, transitional, XHTML 1.0 strict, etc, even HTML 3.2. I get: Sorry, this document does not validate as HTML version. Maybe that's a start to the problem ...in other words, use the automatic validation service here to

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-24 Thread basic
if you can, put the page up somewhere where we can test it. The last time I checked that URL I got a DATA ERROR message or some sort. Yeh You-Ying wrote: Hello, I put the screenshots of IR and Mozilla 0.9.7 while visiting the same website. (1) IE

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-24 Thread JTK
flacco wrote: Well, after validating the page (or attempting to) using HTML 4.01 strict, transitional, XHTML 1.0 strict, etc, even HTML 3.2. I get: Sorry, this document does not validate as HTML version. Maybe that's a start to the problem ...in other words, use the automatic

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-24 Thread Pascal Chevrel
JTK wrote: flacco wrote: Well, after validating the page (or attempting to) using HTML 4.01 strict, transitional, XHTML 1.0 strict, etc, even HTML 3.2. I get: Sorry, this document does not validate as HTML version. Maybe that's a start to the problem ...in other words, use

Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-23 Thread Yeh You-Ying
Hello, I put the screenshots of IR and Mozilla 0.9.7 while visiting the same website. (1) IE http://www.photome.com.tw/album1/youying/2491133/big/nc.jpg (2) Mozilla/Netscape http://www.photome.com.tw/album1/youying/2491133/big/nd.jpg Please note the red words in the middle of pics. Any one

Re: Mozilla/Netscape Showes this Website Incorrectly

2001-12-23 Thread DeMoN LaG
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Yeh You-Ying) wrote in [EMAIL PROTECTED]">news:[EMAIL PROTECTED], on 23 Dec 2001: Hello, I put the screenshots of IR and Mozilla 0.9.7 while visiting the same website. (1) IE http://www.photome.com.tw/album1/youying/2491133/big/nc.jpg (2) Mozilla/Netscape