Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-11 Thread Esben Mose Hansen
Bamm Gabriana wrote: Ok. I _have_ to ask. Why don't you just use the keyboard shortcut? (for home, that is) I do. Alt+Home is natural when my hands are on the keyboard. ok :-) My curiosity got the better of me :o) [...] But my point is not *my* convenience. (I can work around it.)

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-11 Thread Bamm Gabriana
Good points.

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Lancer Charade
Bamm Gabriana wrote: You may be technical about your definition of Navigation Buttons but most end users would consider going home as navigation. i guess 'back' 'forward' 'stop' 'reload' are like the controls of the ship. Home is a place.

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Morten Nilsen
Lancer Charade wrote: i guess 'back' 'forward' 'stop' 'reload' are like the controls of the ship. Home is a place. playing with the fullscreen mode in linux, I really missed the home button... -- Morten Nilsen, aka Dr. P We are the borg^]dbdbiMicrosoft. Prepare to be

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Lancer Charade
Morten Nilsen wrote: playing with the fullscreen mode in linux, I really missed the home button... collapse the menu before go to fullscreen. Works in windows... may you can get too the menu in Full Screen Mode. And like i said when i discoverd it, now i have a wonderful classic desktop

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Morten Nilsen
Lancer Charade wrote: collapse the menu before go to fullscreen. Works in windows... may you can get too the menu in Full Screen Mode. And like i said when i discoverd it, now i have a wonderful classic desktop enviroment in this ~¡·%$'#¬¿*+ windows. Yeah, I've seen your posts :) but

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Bamm Gabriana
You may be technical about your definition of Navigation Buttons but most end users would consider going home as navigation. i guess 'back' 'forward' 'stop' 'reload' are like the controls of the ship. So would you consider Go, Search, Print and M as navigation, too? Home is a place. A

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Bamm Gabriana
collapse the menu before go to fullscreen. Works in windows... may you can get too the menu in Full Screen Mode. As I said, that defeats the purpose of the Home button.

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Bamm Gabriana
i guess 'back' 'forward' 'stop' 'reload' are like the controls of the ship. Home is a place. Back is also a place. The Back button takes you to that place. Home is a place. The Home button is a navigation button because it takes you to that place called Home. If you want to be technical about

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Parish
Bamm Gabriana wrote: My preference would be to have a Home but not to have Go, Search and Print. Go, Search, and Print can all be turned off in Preferences-Navigator Reason: I would use it more often. Perhaps some people use Print often, I wouldn't (my printer is busted). Effective user

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Morten Nilsen
Parish wrote: Go, Search, and Print can all be turned off in Preferences-Naviga dude, that was his point. -- Morten Nilsen, aka Dr. P We are the borg^]dbdbiMicrosoft. Prepare to be assimilated^]dbiembraced and extended. Resistance is futile^]dbdbdbiWe know you want it. :wq

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Parish
Morten Nilsen wrote: Parish wrote: Go, Search, and Print can all be turned off in Preferences-Naviga dude, that was his point. Ah right, I see. I got the context of the sentence wrong. :-( -- Software is like sex, it's better when it's free - Linus Torvalds Anti-spam e-mail

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Bamm Gabriana
You're so funny. You're saying if it's not one extreme it should be the other. IF THE DEFINITION OF TO DESIGN A USER INTERFACE, WERE WHAT YOU ARE ASKING FOR, I WOULD ADD IN EVERYPLACE ONE SHORTCUT FOR EVERYFUNCTION. Answer my question: Among the following browsers: Netscape 1, Netscape 2,

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Bamm Gabriana
Go, Search, and Print can all be turned off in Preferences-Navigator Wouldn't it be nice if we could say the same for Home? :)

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Parish
Bamm Gabriana wrote: Go, Search, and Print can all be turned off in Preferences-Navigator Wouldn't it be nice if we could say the same for Home? :) I have to say that I agree that the Home button should really be on the Nav bar, but also it is a fairly low priority requirement. --

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Lancer Charade
Bamm Gabriana wrote: But since you seem to miss the point about user interfaces (gosh do I have to lecture?) A *good* user interface is not one that accomodates each and every one person, but one that accomodates the majority of people. A good UI is one where the end user will naturally feel

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Bamm Gabriana
Bamm, you are wrong. What you have wrote is a lie... you are improvisating. And i have to tell you this, because you seem to be totaly ignorant on about this topic. I will give you the perfect example, Photoshop: Photoshop is in the top has its prestige not for be an easy to use

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Esben Mose Hansen
Bamm Gabriana wrote: [...a lot of arguing...] Ok. I _have_ to ask. Why don't you just use the keyboard shortcut? (for home, that is) Personally, I've never seen the idea of a home buttom myself, but then, I do use the navigation toolbar for a three-some of buttoms. Conceptually, that's

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Lancer Charade
I hope you didn't read me wrong. I didn't say that a UI should have a shortcut for everything. It shouldn't. It should only expose what is necessary - other functions must be buried in menus or in other toolbars. If you read my piece correctly you would have seen that I agree with you

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Lancer Charade
I RECOMMEND YOU TO BEFORE GO FOR A COFFE OR SOMETHIG SIMILAR --- | I hope you didn't read me wrong. I didn't say that a UI should | have a shortcut for everything. It shouldn't. It should only expose | what is necessary - other functions must be buried in menus or |

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Lancer
--- | I hope you didn't read me wrong. I didn't say that a UI should | have a shortcut for everything. It shouldn't. It should only expose | what is necessary - other functions must be buried in menus or | in other toolbars. --- | If you

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Bamm Gabriana
I believe the following article answers all your points. http://www.mozilla.org/unity-of-interface.html

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Bamm Gabriana
Ok. I _have_ to ask. Why don't you just use the keyboard shortcut? (for home, that is) I do. Alt+Home is natural when my hands are on the keyboard. If my hand is currently on the mouse I transfer it to the keyboard just to press Alt+Home (which uses both hands). I know it's awkward but I have

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Travis Crump
Bamm Gabriana wrote: If my hand is currently on the mouse I transfer it to the keyboard just to press Alt+Home (which uses both hands). I know it's awkward but I have no choice. You must have small hands... :) More options are always good even though I have never understood the purpose

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-10 Thread Bamm Gabriana
You must have small hands... :) I guess so :) More options are always good Thanks. even though I have never understood the purpose of the Home button and normally hide the Navigation toolbar anyway... That's true. Powerusers almost never use the Home button. For the average user I can

Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-09 Thread me
Whose idea was it to place the home button below the main toolbar where Back, Forward, etc. are? In my humble opinion, it should be placed along side those other buttons. Doc

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-09 Thread Jonas Jørgensen
me wrote: Whose idea was it to place the home button below the main toolbar where Back, Forward, etc. are? In my humble opinion, it should be placed along side those other buttons. http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89350

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-09 Thread Lancer
me escribio: Whose idea was it to place the home button below the main toolbar where Back, Forward, etc. are? In my humble opinion, it should be placed along side those other buttons. Doc A Home button, is a shortcut... almost a bookmark. And Back, Forward, Reload and Stop are Navigation

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-09 Thread me
I tend to strongly disagree. Are you telling me that your home (as in place where you reside in the physical world), isn't a place that you navigate to a lot when you want to get home? And, Home has been with those other Navigation buttons (back, forward, etc.) for a long time including every

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-09 Thread Dan Howard
me wrote: Whose idea was it to place the home button below the main toolbar where Back, Forward, etc. are? In my humble opinion, it should be placed along side those other buttons. Doc One temporary solution: Use the mouse gestures add-on available at

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-09 Thread me
Dan, Thanks for the information. But, tell that to the masses that Mozilla, Netscape, and others want to find and use Gecko based browsers. - Doc Dan Howard wrote: me wrote: Whose idea was it to place the home button below the main toolbar where Back, Forward, etc. are? In my humble

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-09 Thread Jonas Jørgensen
me wrote: Dan, Thanks for the information. But, tell that to the masses that Mozilla, Netscape, and others want to find and use Gecko based browsers. Why? It's a known issue and it will be fixed. Didn't you look at the link I gave you? http://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=89350

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-09 Thread me
I did look at the page you gave the link for. However, it looks like the issue is being swept under the carpet, from the discussion posted on that page. It doesn't appear that anything will change on this topic. - Doc Jonas Jørgensen wrote: me wrote: Dan, Thanks for the information.

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-09 Thread Jonas Jørgensen
me wrote: I did look at the page you gave the link for. However, it looks like the issue is being swept under the carpet, from the discussion posted on that page. It doesn't appear that anything will change on this topic. Maybe not now, but at some point, it will. /Jonas

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-09 Thread Bamm Gabriana
A Home button, is a shortcut... almost a bookmark. And Back, Forward, Reload and Stop are Navigation buttons. So I think it is not a place to put a Home button. The purpose of the home button is to have this one particular site readily available at the click of a button. Most end users use

Re: Put the Home Button on the main toolbar

2002-03-09 Thread me
I don't get that impression. - Doc Jonas Jørgensen wrote: me wrote: I did look at the page you gave the link for. However, it looks like the issue is being swept under the carpet, from the discussion posted on that page. It doesn't appear that anything will change on this topic.