[Mpi-forum] September Reading Announcements

2024-09-09 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Dear all, I would like to request a first reading for the following changes: *RMA: MPI_REQUEST_FREE is not allowed to clean up RMA requests* Issue: https: //urldefense. us/v3/__https: //github. com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/760__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!ZzaXoP1-rHDUS8JWsYsU7SMRd22mnloUljnqA5ppfkka0EnH

Re: [Mpi-forum] MPI Forum Next Week

2024-06-14 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Hi all, I'd like to get some feedback on the work to integrate hyperlinks for symbols. The work is almost done but there are some decisions to be made. PR: https: //urldefense. us/v3/__https: //github. com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/954__;!!G_uCfscf7eWS!dIPhZiHNIVkUlz25pTMfwlI1fGc76y1kucfANGL

[Mpi-forum] Plenary Request: MPI Continuations Proposal

2023-11-17 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Dear all, I'd like to read the current state of the MPI Continuations proposal to gather further feedback and chart a route for possible publication as a side document. The current version of the proposal can be found at [1]. Thanks Joseph [1] https://github.com/mpiwg-hybrid/hybrid-issues/

Re: [Mpi-forum] Complete RC open issues list from MPI Forum RCM

2023-09-21 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Martin, all, I went through the issues grouped under the RMA chapter (Chapter 12) and found that some of them are issues in the I/O chapter: rows 228-259 (except for row 239) seem relevant for the I/O chapter and not the RMA chapter. I guess there has been some confusion about document and PDF

[Mpi-forum] RMA WG Reading Announcement September'23 Meeting

2023-08-31 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
The RMA WG would like to read the following errata: RMA chapter committee changes Issue: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/745 PR: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/857 These changes were somehow missed for the 4.1rc and will likely address many of the issues reviewers

[Mpi-forum] July Meeting RMA WG vote request

2023-06-18 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Dear Forum, On behalf of the RMA WG I would to request a second vote on the following MPI-4.1 ticket: *RMA accumulate operations don't distinguish between throughput and latency sensitive applications* Issue: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/640 PR: https://github.com/mpi-forum

[Mpi-forum] RMA WG Vote Announcements

2023-04-17 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Dear all, The RMA WG would like to request the following votes: No-no-vote and subsequent 1st vote: *RMA accumulate operations don't distinguish between throughput and latency sensitive applications* Issue: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/640 PR: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mp

[Mpi-forum] March Reading and Vote Announcements

2023-02-26 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Dear Wes, all, On behalf of the RMA working group, I would like to request the following readings and votes. All PRs should have an auto-generated PDF attached. Reading: *RMA accumulate operations don't distinguish between throughput and latency sensitive applications* Issue: https://githu

[Mpi-forum] RMA WG reading/vote announcements

2023-01-18 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Dear all, On behalf of the RMA WG I'd like to make the following voting and reading requests for the February meeting: Second votes: *RMA: Add missing win-sync calls to Example 12.21* Issue: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/553 PR: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull

[Mpi-forum] No-no-vote / first vote: deprecate mpif.h

2023-01-18 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Dear all, I'd like to request a no-no-vote and first vote for the following ticket: *Deprecate mpif.h* Issue: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/561 PR: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/722 Changes since the last reading: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/

[Mpi-forum] Reading requests: language interoperability concerns

2023-01-18 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
On behalf of JeffH I'd like to request a no-no reading and first vote for the following issues/PRs addressing language interoperability issues: *add MPI_Status_{set,get} for 3 status fields* Issue: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/645 PR: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/p

Re: [Mpi-forum] RMA WG reading/vote announcements for December 2022 meeting

2022-11-22 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Hi Wes, I believe we're missing a no-no-vote for issue #429 (RMA: Replace 'operation' with 'operator' where appropriate), which had changes since the first reading. The rest looks good from our side. Thanks Joseph On 11/18/22 18:14, Joseph Schuchart wrote: Dear all, On behalf of the RMA WG

[Mpi-forum] Reading requests: language interoperability concerns

2022-11-21 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
On behalf of JeffH I'd like to request the first reading of the following issues/PRs addressing language interoperability issues at the December 2022 meeting: *add MPI_Status_{set,get} for 3 status fields* Issue: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/645 PR: https://github.com/mpi-foru

Re: [Mpi-forum] RMA WG reading/vote announcements for December 2022 meeting

2022-11-21 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
I'd like to push three more items to the heap of first reading requests for the RMA chapter: *RMA communication procedures should have local semantics* Issue: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/653 PR: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/769 This change depends on the larg

Re: [Mpi-forum] RMA WG reading/vote announcements for December 2022 meeting

2022-11-21 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Yes, if the Forum agrees that it's an errata then we can vote on it right away. Thanks Joseph On 11/21/22 09:21, Wes Bland wrote: #634 is marked as errata. Should I schedule this for a vote as well? Thanks, Wes On Nov 18, 2022, at 5:14 PM, Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum wrote: Dea

[Mpi-forum] Misc reading and vote announcements/requests

2022-11-18 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Dear all, I'd like to request the reading of the following ticket: *Deprecate mpif.h* Issue: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/561 PR: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/722 I'd like to request the second vote for the following ticket: *MPI_*_GET_NAME functions accept

[Mpi-forum] RMA WG reading/vote announcements for December 2022 meeting

2022-11-18 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Dear all, On behalf of the RMA WG I'd like to request a first reading of the following tickets: *Add info key for RMA accumulate behavior preference* Issue: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/640 PR: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/749 PDF: https://github.com/mpi-fo

Re: [Mpi-forum] Slots for WG Meetings in Chattanooga?

2022-09-14 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Since I (and likely others) are interested in both I'd prefer them to be separate :) Thanks Joseph On 9/14/22 14:35, Wes Bland wrote: Can these be in parallel? Or do they need to be separate? On Sep 14, 2022, at 1:31 PM, Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum wrote: Martin, all, Both th

[Mpi-forum] Slots for WG Meetings in Chattanooga?

2022-09-14 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Martin, all, Both the RMA and HACC WGs have expressed interest in a slot for WG discussions at the September meeting in Chattanooga. Will there be time for a few hours each to discuss topics with the broader forum? I understand that we only have 2.5 days but maybe this can be a backfiller...

[Mpi-forum] 1st vote: Allow MPI_*_GET_NAME functions to accept MPI_*_NULL handles

2022-09-12 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
I'd like to request a first vote for the following ticket: *Allow MPI_*_GET_NAME functions to accept MPI_*_NULL handles* PR: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/652 Issue: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/544 This had a reading and a no-no vote at the last meeting. Than

[Mpi-forum] RMA WG Reading Announcements

2022-09-08 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
All, The RMA WG would like to read the following tickets at the September 2022 meeting in Chattanooga: *Allow MPI_WIN_SHARED_QUERY on created and allocated windows* - Ticket: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/23 - PR: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/708 *MPI_Win_fr

[Mpi-forum] FoRMA'22 Call for Participation: Future of MPI RMA Workshop June 15 & 16

2022-06-12 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
A gentle reminder, please feel free to distribute where you see fit :) Apologies if you receive multiple copies. *Future of MPI RMA Workshop (FoRMA'22)* https://mpiwg-rma.github.io/forma22/ The MPI RMA Working Group is organizing a virtual workshop aimed at gathering input from users and impl

[Mpi-forum] 1st Future of MPI RMA Workshop: Call for Short Talks and Participation

2022-05-29 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
[Apologies if you got multiple copies of this email.] *1st Future of MPI RMA Workshop (FoRMA'22)* https://mpiwg-rma.github.io/forma22/ The MPI RMA Working Group is organizing a workshop aimed at gathering inputs from users and implementors of MPI RMA with past experiences and ideas for improv

[Mpi-forum] Reading Request: strings for NULL objects

2022-05-09 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
I'd like to read the following proposal at the May 2022 meeting on behalf of JeffS: - MPI_*_GET_NAME functions accept MPI_*_NULL handles: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/652 We will address Rolf's comment on the PR about the strings in the appendix later today and may have to

[Mpi-forum] Reading requests May 2022 from the RMA WG

2022-05-09 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
The RMA WG would like to read the following proposals: - Fix semantic terms in RMA chapter: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/611 - RMA: Add missing win-sync calls to Example 12.21: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/663/files - MPI_Win_free is synchronizing, except whe

Re: [Mpi-forum] December MPI Forum Meeting Registration Posted / Call For Topics

2021-12-01 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Hi Wesley, If there is still time, I would like to give a high-level overview of MPI Continuations (preferably towards the end of the meeting). I will prepare a couple of slides to introduce the topic, hoping for some early feedback from the broader forum. Thanks Joseph On 11/26/21 2:48 PM

[Mpi-forum] Reading Announcement: #611 and #637

2021-11-22 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
All, I'd like to announce a reading of the following two tickets: #637 RMA: Replace 'operation' with 'operator' where appropriate: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/637 Addresses: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/429 #611 Fix semantic terms in RMA chapter: https://

Re: [Mpi-forum] mpi info behavior

2021-10-20 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
I am working on the fix for Open MPI. The modular infrastructure and lazy initialization there makes this challenging in some places. For example, during communicator creation we don't yet know which collective module will serve which collective operation. Assume we have a hypothetical custom i

Re: [Mpi-forum] Questions on MPI Standard formatting

2021-09-05 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
p Director, NCSA Thomas M. Siebel Chair in Computer Science University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign IEEE-CS President-Elect On Sep 3, 2021, at 1:40 PM, Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum <mailto:mpi-forum@lists.mpi-forum.org>> wrote: I am OK with leaving out line numbers in tables. Maybe that

Re: [Mpi-forum] Questions on MPI Standard formatting

2021-09-03 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
I am OK with leaving out line numbers in tables. Maybe that will be solved in the future. One comment I had was on the code formatting. While I definitely prefer the lstlistings formatting over the verbatim we have so far, I find the bold highlighting somewhat distracting. I find it hard to fo

Re: [Mpi-forum] Time To Open Source MPI

2020-02-03 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Wesley, I do not have a strong opinion on this question. However, you keep mentioning that the testing infrastructure is broken. I wasn't at the last meeting so I must have missed the discussion there. How would moving to a repo restore the testing infrastucture? Cheers Joseph On 2/3/20 8:5

Re: [Mpi-forum] REMINDER: Planing for the MPI Forum Meeting in February (DEADLINE February 4th)

2020-01-31 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Hi Martin, I would like to request the second vote for ticket 121 (memory alignment): Ticket: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/121 PR: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/96 PDF: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/files/3886563/mpi-report-issue-121_2019-11-25-13.28

Re: [Mpi-forum] MPI_T Events für Request Completion Callbacks

2019-11-25 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Sorry y'all, this wasn't meant for everyone :( I really need to fix my thunderbird's address book... On 11/25/19 3:43 PM, Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum wrote: Hallo Marc-André, Jannis und ich hatten uns auf der SC kurz über MPI und Task-basierte Programmiermodelle ausgetausch

[Mpi-forum] MPI_T Events für Request Completion Callbacks

2019-11-25 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Hallo Marc-André, Jannis und ich hatten uns auf der SC kurz über MPI und Task-basierte Programmiermodelle ausgetauscht. Wir sind uns mehr oder wenig einig, dass MPI ein Interface braucht, das es dem Nutzer erlaubt asynchron über den Abschluss von Operationen hinter einem Requests benachrichtig

[Mpi-forum] Ticket 121: Request for 1st vote in Albuquerque

2019-11-25 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
I would like to request the first vote for ticket 121 (memory alignment): Ticket: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/121 PR: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/96 PDF: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/files/3886563/mpi-report-issue-121_2019-11-25-13.28.pdf (change

[Mpi-forum] Zurich Reading Request: Memory Alignment and RMA ordering errata

2019-08-22 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Dear all, I would like to request the reading of the following two proposals at the Zurich meeting: *Memory Alignment* Ticket #121: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/121 PR: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/96 PDF: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/files/3528

Re: [Mpi-forum] Giving up on C11 _Generic

2019-08-15 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Jed, On 8/13/19 5:54 AM, Jed Brown via mpi-forum wrote: "Jeff Squyres \(jsquyres\) via mpi-forum" writes: Let me ask a simple question: how will users to write portable MPI programs in C with large count values? Answer: they will explicitly call MPI_Send_x(), and not rely on C11 _Generic.

Re: [Mpi-forum] "BigCount" rendering in PDF

2019-08-02 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
so makes it impossible to do anything at all because there’s always somebody too ignorant to use some feature correctly, and the union of the ignorance covers all nontrivial changes. Jeff On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 7:28 AM Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum mailto:mpi-forum@lists.mpi-forum.org>&

Re: [Mpi-forum] "BigCount" rendering in PDF

2019-08-01 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
I think the point he wanted to make was that you won't see a compile-time error if you /think/ you're using the MPI_Count overloads but are in fact not, i.e., you are modernizing a legacy code base that is stuck in the nineties and you introduce MPI_Count for size arguments because the standard

Re: [Mpi-forum] "BigCount" rendering in PDF

2019-07-31 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
I agree with Jeff H that excluding C++ from the BigCount polymorphism seems unfortunate (and unintuitive for C++ developers). The _Generic selectors in C11 map a call to MPI_YYY() to either MPI_YYY(int) or MPI_YYY_x(MPI_Count). A C++ interface could do the same, with some macro work in the back

Re: [Mpi-forum] "BigCount" rendering in PDF

2019-07-31 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Jeff, The first look at the definitions might indeed be a bit confusing, as it is strange to see overloaded C functions (even though C11 _Generic has been around for a while). It is also not clear when the second variant (using MPI_Count) is available, that is only if C11 _Generic is supporte

Re: [Mpi-forum] Planning for the September Forum Meeting

2019-07-23 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Hi Martin, I would like to read the Memory Alignment ticket (#121) again and hopefully get it to a vote. The RMA ordering ticket needs some more work from my side and I am not yet sure I will have enough time to work on it before the Zurich meeting. I will know more in 2 weeks :) Best Joseph

Re: [Mpi-forum] MPI Forum Virtual Meeting TODAY/WEDNESDAY

2019-07-03 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
All, Please find below the links relevant for today's virtual meeting: *Memory Alignment* Issue: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/121 PR: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/96 PDF: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/files/3324565/mpi-report-issue-121_2019-06-25_11

[Mpi-forum] Request for Reading: Memory alignment and RMA operation ordering

2019-05-14 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Dear all, I would like to request the reading of the following two proposals at the Chicago meeting: Memory Alignment: Issue #121: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issues/issues/121 PR #96: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-standard/pull/96 Annotated PDF: https://github.com/mpi-forum/mpi-issue

Re: [Mpi-forum] Request for Reading: Clarify alignment of memory provided to applications

2019-02-25 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Schuchart via mpi-forum wrote: Dear MPI forum members, [Apologies for double-posting, I did not receive a notification for my previous mail and it does not show up in the archives] I would like to request a reading of the changes proposed in issue #121 "Clarify alignment of memory provid

[Mpi-forum] Request for Reading: Clarify alignment of memory provided to applications

2019-02-18 Thread Joseph Schuchart via mpi-forum
Dear MPI forum members, [Apologies for double-posting, I did not receive a notification for my previous mail and it does not show up in the archives] I would like to request a reading of the changes proposed in issue #121 "Clarify alignment of memory provided to applications": https://github