RE: [Mpls] Atherton

2001-11-21 Thread List Manager
Everyone: A reminder about a couple of rules: 4. No insults, threats, and inflamed speech for the sake of personal argument are allowed. 5. One-on-one arguments, disagreements, and disputes of a personal nature must be taken off list. The discussion of Michael Atherton's comments is sliding

Re: [Mpls] Another baseball plan.

2001-11-21 Thread Jordan S. Kushner
i think that Phyllis Kahn and Ellen Anderson have a very good and practical proposal. it is also a test of whether the owners who control baseball are willing to act for benefit the community, or are only willing to take the community's money to for personal profit. Jordan Kushner Powderhorn

Re: [Mpls] Re: Schools: Financial Concerns

2001-11-21 Thread Michael Atherton
Eva Young wrote: I've never had a statistics class, but I have had calculus, through differential equations, and I'm not sure what Atherton is refering to with his reference to regression models and variances. It kind of reminds me of how computer techies talk -- and when you ask questions

Re: [Mpls] Mr. Atherton

2001-11-21 Thread Michael Atherton
kathy kosnoff wrote: Atherton writes (and writes and writes): Let's bring this tread back to issues. I've made a number of proposals which no one has commented on.. ~Time for some self-reflection here, Mr. Atherton. Why do you suppose no one responds? Could it be that most others

[Mpls] My Two Cents on a Twins Stadium

2001-11-21 Thread Denise Tolbert
I have ALWAYS been a huge fan of the Minnesota Vikings, and I have always been a strong supporter of any sports franchise that adds value in terms of dollars to the local economy while sustaining themselves nationally as a sports league. I am NOT in favor of a baseball stadium subsidized by the

Re: [Mpls] Re: Schools: Financial Concerns and Computer Issues

2001-11-21 Thread j harmon
This may sound naive, but I find it amazing that class size is considered such a major issue with relation to quality of education discussions. I attended gradeschool in St. Peters, Missouri (which upon relocating from MN seemed like the deep south to me at the time) In those days, Minnesota

[Mpls] What's Missing - Nicollet Island

2001-11-21 Thread LisaKugler
I have it from an unimpeachable source that Sheba the Donkey, former star resident of Nicollet Island, is hale and healthy in Eastern Iowa at 33 years old. 33 is the donkey equivalent of 99, so a dowager she is. Lisa Kugler Tangletown ___ Minneapolis Issues

[Mpls] Education-related discussions

2001-11-21 Thread Michael Hohmann
I for one have greatly enjoyed the lively education-related discussions on this list in recent months. While I've been busy and found it difficult to keep up with at times, my interest in education and respect for the many people taking the time and making the effort to inform us of their varied

[Mpls] Re: Schools: Financial Concerns and Computer Issues

2001-11-21 Thread KTrain9003
Michael Atherton wrote: Let's bring this tread back to issues. I've made a number of proposals which no one has commented on. I'd like to hear what the school board members think of them. So would I. I'd also like an answer to my questions about new PCs v. refurbished PCs - if the

[Mpls] Regression Models and Schools

2001-11-21 Thread Eva Young
At 09:11 AM 11/21/01 -0600, Michael Atherton wrote: kathy kosnoff wrote: Atherton writes (and writes and writes): Let's bring this tread back to issues. I've made a number of proposals which no one has commented on.. ~Time for some self-reflection here, Mr. Atherton. Why do you suppose

RE: [Mpls] My Two Cents on a Twins Stadium

2001-11-21 Thread Walt Cygan
Denise Tolbert wrote: If there ever was proposal to publicly fund a football stadium I will be one of the first people on the bandwagon. Football makes money for the local economy. Football is one of America's most popular sporting events next to Basketball. Football makes the public relations

Re: [Mpls] Re: Schools: Financial Concerns and Computer Issues

2001-11-21 Thread j harmon
RE: I also, would like to hear what list members think about the education gap between poor and middle class children in the MPS. On a related note, isn't the education gap really predicated upon the INCOME gap? Numerous studies tell us that poor kids move more, have a higher rate of

[Mpls] FW: Invitation to Minneapolis Bikeways Master Plan Open House

2001-11-21 Thread Young, Susan A
-Original Message- From: Calvert, Ann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 11:46 AM To: Calvert, Ann Subject: Invitation to Minneapolis Bikeways Master Plan Open House For those of you interested in bikeways along the Mississippi River and/or

Re: [Mpls] My Two Cents on a Twins Stadium

2001-11-21 Thread Gary Bowman
Denise mentions, I do know the City of Minneapolis taxpayers did vote for $10 million dollars to be used towards the effort of securing a stadium, but that was the limit of it. Respectful correction: The charter amendment, which I happened to be involved in the collecting of signatures for,

Re: [Mpls] Re: Schools: Financial Concerns and Computer Issues

2001-11-21 Thread wizardmarks
Michael Atherton wrote: I am not opposed to arts courses. However, my point was that our FIRST priority should be to insure that ALL students have the basic skills necessary to succeed academically. My point is that the arts are not extras, but should be viewed as core curriculum for all

Re: [Mpls] School Board Policy Education Research

2001-11-21 Thread Gypsycurse7
In a message dated 11/20/2001 9:13:41 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: n the extract from What Matter Most cited above, Linda Darling-Hammond says, In an analysis of 900 Texas school districts, Ronald Ferguson found that teachers’ expertise—as measured by scores

[Mpls] Re: R.T. and the Twins

2001-11-21 Thread timothy connolly
I'm with Molly Schultz on this. R.T. specifically said no money for a stadium, money for parks It was never going to be. The thing now is to keep the number $10 million in mind and look for the loopholes to get around that number. This is a done deal if the Twins are sold. When Jim Niland

[Mpls] City Council action Re: Above the falls/ Correction about online campaign info

2001-11-21 Thread Svattheriver
The city council postponed the zoning and planning decision for the Riverview supper club until Dec. 14, 2001. In my opinion neither the city council nor the Park Board is willing to do the heavy lifting on being responsible for taking the blame and / or lawsuits for what the master plan

[Mpls] a broader perspective (long)

2001-11-21 Thread Brobson34
While I believe Ms. Kosnoff was properly chastised for her dismissive post regarding Mr. Atherton, I, and I daresay other list members, share her frustration with the gadfly nature of some of Mr. Atherton's (and, to a lesser extent, Mr. Mann's) education posts. Allow me a few minutes to

[Mpls] my two cents

2001-11-21 Thread j harmon
I've come to the conclusion that I've griped enough about funding a new stadium, so I've decided to send Carl my two cents in the form of a check. Anyone know his address off hand? Sure hope he cashes it right away so I can balance my checkbook... JHarmon Cleveland

[Mpls] RE: my two cents

2001-11-21 Thread Walt Cygan
I hear you, but I don't know if I *can* gripe too much about it. At least, not until the proposals to fund a stadium have a stake driven through their hearts and are dead and buried. Vigilance is key! I don't want that $10 million slipped by Minneapolis taxpayers and a bigger tab passed on to all

Re: [Mpls] Re: Schools: Financial Concerns

2001-11-21 Thread Martha Bolinger
Michael Atherton wrote: In other words, the three variables (parent involvement, teacher quality, and class size) may account for say 20% of the total variance, leaving 80% of the variance unaccounted for by this model, but we don't know because this article never reports what amount of the

[Mpls] My Two Cents on Twins Stadium

2001-11-21 Thread Denise Tolbert
I have ALWAYS been a huge fan of the Minnesota Vikings, and I have always been a strong supporter of any sports franchise that adds value in terms of dollars to the local economy while sustaining themselves nationally as a sports league. I am NOT in favor of a baseball stadium subsidized by the

[Mpls] FBI racial profiling in Minneapolis?

2001-11-21 Thread MNMollyS
This could have gone completely unnoticed due to its being buried in another story, but today's Strib reports that John Ashcroft is asking police chiefs around the country, including here in Minneapolis, to assist with interviewing 5,000 young men who recently entered the country from regions

Re: [Mpls] a broader perspective (long)

2001-11-21 Thread Gypsycurse7
In a message dated 11/21/2001 2:25:25 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: While I believe Ms. Kosnoff was properly chastised for her dismissive post regarding Mr. Atherton, I, and I daresay other list members, share her frustration with the gadfly nature of some of Mr.

[Mpls] 24 hour Post Office

2001-11-21 Thread Delcalzoaj
I think a lot of people have missed the 24 hour post office at the airport while all the construction has been going on out there. The new one is now open (last week) and I mailed items from there last night. It is big, bright and harder than the devil to find. So for all those who might

Re: [Mpls] 24 hour Post Office

2001-11-21 Thread Jack Kryst
Hi, Jan. Thanks for the info. It may be that the 24-hour post office was missed most by those of us who foolishly spent our youth posting late night political mail. Nonetheless, I'm glad to hear it's back at the airport where God intended it to be. Jack Kryst Kingfield - Original Message

Re: [Mpls] FBI racial profiling in Minneapolis?

2001-11-21 Thread Rosalind Nelson
A not-so-buried story: http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/847244.html To their credit, the Minneapolis and St. Paul police don't seem eager to participate. Rosalind Nelson Bancroft Neighborhood At 12:59 PM 11/21/01 EST, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This could have gone completely

Re: [Mpls] FBI racial profiling in Minneapolis?

2001-11-21 Thread Jordan S. Kushner
There is some hope that the Minneapolis and St. Paul police will do the right thing and refuse to participate in Ashcroft's ethnically motivated witch hunt. Chiefs Olson and Finney, within the past six months, publicly advocated that undocumented immigrants be given drivers license. In that