[Mpls] New Council Prez?/New Oath/New Bold Chit

2001-12-07 Thread PennBroKeith
Paul Ostrow, favored contender for Council Prez crown, seems to create a new oath of office for the incoming class of 2002 Council. He proposes they all sign up to his draft of a cooperation pact(?), with him as the top cooperator. Other current and future CMs, and the voters who put them

Re: [Mpls] Is Reading Taught? Attendance counts.

2001-12-07 Thread Tim Bonham
From: Michael Atherton [EMAIL PROTECTED] . . . We should no sooner expect parents to teach their own children as to fix their own electronic equipment. If you took your TV in to be fixed, would you expect it to come back with a note that said that it was 50% repaired and you could finish the

RE: [Mpls] New Council Prez?/New Oath/New Bold Chit

2001-12-07 Thread David Brauer
Keith R. writes: Paul Ostrow, favored contender for Council Prez crown, seems to create a new oath of office for the incoming class of 2002 Council. He proposes they all sign up to his draft of a cooperation pact(?), with him as the top cooperator. Other current and future CMs, and the

Re: [Mpls] Is Reading Taught? Attendance counts.

2001-12-07 Thread Michael Atherton
Andy Driscoll wrote: Mr. Atherton asks if he's deluded. The answer is yes. I may be. It maybe impossible to change the educational establishment, but one should not accept social injustice just because change is illusive. Mr. Atherton suggests that only the schools are responsible,...

[Mpls] school fundraisers

2001-12-07 Thread Mark Wilde
i attended my step-son's school last night to take part in a holiday sale. some of the classes had made little holiday knick-knacks to sell to raise money for a field trip. they were also selling t-shirts etc. to try and raise money. there was more than one teacher there and many volunteers and

RE: [Mpls] Is Reading Taught? Attendance counts.

2001-12-07 Thread David Brauer
Michael Atherton writes: Unfortunately, unlike middle class parents, poor parents can't afford to take their business elsewhere. And in Minneapolis it appears that the middle class parents just don't give a damn as long as their children when the lottery. Data, please? Has anyone else

Re: [Mpls] Ostrow will be council president

2001-12-07 Thread Fredric H. Markus
There does seem to be a whiff of extortion in the air. It was one thing to contemplate a city council with Ms. Cherryhomes still at hand. Weve had to shift political gears what with the startling outcomes in Wards Five and Six. Having my Tenth Ward CM-elect fill his predecessors seat as

[Mpls] city debt

2001-12-07 Thread BudTBum
The posts on Minneapolis city debt is interesting. If I did my math correct it works out to $10,000 to $11,000 per household (depending on which figures you use). Does anyone know how this ranks with other cities in the metro? Better/worse? Tom Holtzleiter King Field

[Mpls] Can Ostrow going to deal with the oppressive City debts?

2001-12-07 Thread Victoria Heller
I've seen him in action a several public hearings - he looks like a deer in the headlights! Barbara Johnson is BY FAR a superior choice. Vicky Heller Ward 2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post

Re: [Mpls] Ostrow will be council president

2001-12-07 Thread KarenCollier
In a message dated 12/7/01 8:56:57 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is much more subtle than taunts about “losers”. If Seventh Ward CM Goodman becomes fast friends with MCDA, we’ll be fighting the affordable housing battle with the same cast of characters who seriously

RE: [Mpls] Comrade Ostrow!

2001-12-07 Thread Roberta Englund
AMEN Mr. Parra! In one fell swoop Mr.Ostrow and company has vetoed citizen opinion, now and in the future.So what if the people voted, just sign on the dotted line and we will all be back to business as usual just absent a few players, butwith othersto take their place!What's next,perhapsa

RE: [Mpls] School vs. Home or school + home

2001-12-07 Thread Walt Cygan
David Brauer wrote: My kid's ability to enter a good school is certain - we've already found three and we're guaranteed one. I must live in the wrong neighborhood. When I tried to get my daughter into a Minneapolis school. I was guaranteed one that I wasn't happy with. My daughter's chance at

Re: [Mpls] Is school more like a)a TV repair shop, b)a doctor'soffice, c) other

2001-12-07 Thread Michael Atherton
Ann Berget wrote: I think school is rather more like seeing a doctor and getting a prescription for your problem: if you get the Rx filled and take it and do the other things the doctor recommends, you are much more likely to recover quickly than if you put the Rx in your pocket and

[Mpls] Council

2001-12-07 Thread R.T.Rybak
I wanted to pick up on a comment from Roberta re. the council organization being something that I have "orchestrated." This is not the case. When Ostrow stepped forward to challenge the existing leadership of the council I stood up with him and others to say it was time for a change.

RE: [Mpls] Comrade Ostrow!

2001-12-07 Thread Eva Young
Roberta Englund writes: AMEN Mr. Parra! In one fell swoop Mr.Ostrow and company has vetoed citizen opinion, now and in the future. So what if the people voted, just sign on the dotted line and we will all be back to business as usual just absent a few players, but with others to take their

[Mpls] Housing

2001-12-07 Thread R.T.Rybak
I promise not to spam people with more emailsand I'm about to go back into a cave for a few days... but wanted to also pick up on this point from Eva: What bothers me is RT seems to be spending much more of his time and energy on the Twins stadium that he has on the issues he ran on --

[Mpls] Re: Mpls digest, Vol 1 #576 - 17 msgs

2001-12-07 Thread Emilie Quast
At 10:51 AM 12/7/01 -0600, you wrote: I want to play the responsibility game. And, here's how you play: everyone accepts that they are part of the problem and works as hard as possible to achieve a solution. When someone says, Well, we offered summer tutorials and nobody came, they are playing

Re: [Mpls] Housing/ RT, can WE come to the table?

2001-12-07 Thread PennBroKeith
In a message dated 12/7/01 11:21:09 AM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: As far as the coverage of my actions, this is true. But it's not the case. This afternoon I'm meeting with David Fey and our affordable housing task force, which has been working very hard over the

[Mpls] Quoting Out of Context

2001-12-07 Thread Gypsycurse7
In a message dated 12/6/2001 3:42:20 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I could go on, but that's not really my point. My point is let's deal with the issues. I'm not certain if you're actually reading your notes Doug, but you keep taking quotes out of context and much

Re: [Mpls] Lowry Avenue: Another Greenway of Concern?

2001-12-07 Thread loki anderson
I was thinking about what impact this would have on Marshall Terrace in terms of property acquisition and housing loss should they choose to expand north of the avenue. In terms of housing, we don't have any apartment buildings between University and the river, but we do have several homes

[Mpls] Whittier fund shifting

2001-12-07 Thread timothy connolly
I saw an article in the current SW Journal. I apologize for not being able to include one of those groovy blue lined addresses that all you have to do is click on and VOILA, you're somewhere else. The article was about Whittier Alliance wishing to reallocate $173K from their NRP Phase 1 money,

[Mpls] BIG BIG OOPS

2001-12-07 Thread timothy connolly
I forgot to sign my recent post. More importantly I clicked the wrong box. I was in the process of editing and had intended to delete the final few sentences relative to our soon to be new Mayor. Seriously! I want nothing more than for R.T. to have great success for that will bode well for

[Mpls] Housing, my contribution to the 24 hour news on affordable housing.

2001-12-07 Thread Craig Miller
I have a suggestion for RT and the new council. City inspections at the behest of the city attorneys office are pressing the landlords to take over another responsibility of the city's. Seems some court ruled that the city can't take landlords notice as sufficient notice to perform a city

Re: [Mpls] McKnight Grant, Mickelson, School Choice

2001-12-07 Thread Gregory Luce
With all the discussion of education issues, here's a Strib story today about a $3 million McKnight grant to the MPS for reform of its high schools: http://www.startribune.com/stories/1592/880951.html also, Lynell Mickelsen wrote: I still think the involvement of families in their children's

Re: [Mpls] Mickelson, School Choice . . . $$ Correction

2001-12-07 Thread Gregory Luce
Slight correction to my dollar figures-- a family of one mom, two kids, receives $532.00 month in MFIP benefits, plus an additional $269.00 for food. Imagine paying rent on that. The $437 figure is for a single parent/caregiver and one child. Ooops, sorry. GDL: Bravo to Lynnell on

[Mpls] The last email sent to you from me has a VIRUS

2001-12-07 Thread Barbara L. Nelson
I am infected with a virus that automatically mailed itself to you. Don't open the attachment in the previous email! SORRY. I am working to fix it. Barbara -- Barbara Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gratitude is not only the greatest of virtues, but the parent of all the others. — Cicero

Re: [Mpls] Whittier fund shifting

2001-12-07 Thread wizardmarks
I can tell you one of the ways that happens. Phase I NRP was predicted on a five-year timeline. Neighborhoods with lots of plans and big needs could not anticipte some of the red tape involved in their most intricate solutions to their problems. Each problem which required a bureaucracy to act in

Re: [Mpls] School Propaganda Counts.

2001-12-07 Thread wizardmarks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The culture of poverty theory helps the school board justify keeping things the way they are, in and outside of a courtroom setting. Does naming a cluster of facts the culture of poverty, automatically constitute using it as a theory to maintain the status quo? I

[Mpls] Re: Mpls digest, Vol 1 #577 - 16 msgs

2001-12-07 Thread clenee24
I would like to unscribe to this newsletter Thank you ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls

[Mpls] Cool Formats

2001-12-07 Thread dll6701
What's really cool is that the next Mayor is continuing to read this list, respond from time to time, and, as he becomes an inevitable target . . . keep his cool. David Lillehaug Downtown ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn

[Mpls] Phosphorus Lawn Fertilizer Legislation

2001-12-07 Thread McGreevy, James A., III
Greetings: I'd like to let you all know about an effort at the state legislature to restrict the sale and use of phosphorus lawn fertilizer. I understand there was some discussion of this issue on the list when the Mpls. City Council took action on it. The group I work with, the Minnesota

Re: [Mpls] Council

2001-12-07 Thread Eric Fyksen
--- R.T.Rybak [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think that's what people elected us for. They DID NOT elect us to get into personality squabbles that detour us from bringing about real change. Eric writes: People also elected you because you talked a good line about limiting subsidies for

[Mpls] Reparations, Knee Jerk Liberalism, RT/Ostrow Stadium Boondoggles ostrowcizing rank and file Mpls voters

2001-12-07 Thread Eva Young
The last couple issues of Insight News covered the issue of reparations. The issue two weeks ago talked about how the reparations committee was working on convincing the African American community of the need for reparations. Last week's issue covered the Lucille's Kitchen forum with special

Re: [Mpls] Is Reading Taught? AAA, LM's SWJ column

2001-12-07 Thread j harmon
Constructive - I'll give it a shot, although I must admit my guts are all in knots in hopes of a continuing sodomy discussion... I'll start out by saying that I think every parent has a responsibility to ensure that his/her child makes use of the very education system you speak of - which

Re: [Mpls] School Propaganda Counts.

2001-12-07 Thread Gypsycurse7
In a message dated 12/7/2001 4:08:25 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Does naming a cluster of facts the culture of poverty, automatically constitute using it as a theory to maintain the status quo? I cited 'culture of poverty' to identify one way in which kids fail

[Mpls] Ivy Tower

2001-12-07 Thread List Manager
It's cute as a button, but stubbornly undevelopable. Lisa Goodman calls it a pit and the Strib's Linda Mack says its interior has melted. However, Goodman also says restoring the still-intact concrete tower is the perfect project for tax-increment financing. The council may well approve the deal

[Mpls] One Man's Suggestion on Where to Start with $1.9B Shortfall

2001-12-07 Thread Ron Lischeid
I know that David is probably ready to hit the delete key because it looks like I am going to talk about state issues- but this message is directly focused at Minneapolis- please bear with me on this post- This week it was announced that the state is facing a nearly $2B shortfall as a result of

[Mpls] List member get-together?

2001-12-07 Thread List Manager
Another list member mentioned to me this afternoon that it was time for a face-to-face gathering. We haven't had one for awhile, so it seemed like a good idea to me. Of course, she's just an idea person, and I'm already emitting my sweat equity, so is anyone up for organizing a gathering? I

[Mpls] Re: what kid need to succeed

2001-12-07 Thread Sueherr
In a message dated 12/6/01 12:17:40 PM, wizard writes: Some legitimate research group (Dennis Shapiro, member of this list, could give you the name) reports that each and every kid needs 41 different resources to succeed. Kids who are not succeeding do not have 41 resources, they may not have

Re: [Mpls] Whittier fund shifting

2001-12-07 Thread Barbara Lickness
I would like to provide some clarifying information in reference to Tim's post. The redirection of NRP funds that are being proposed by the Whittier Alliance is done on a regular basis by ALL NRP neighborhoods. Powderhorn completed a like redirection as did the Corcoran neighborhood. I am