Re: [Mpls] Get Together at Gasthof's!
D'OH! I'm obligated to attend a wedding shower that evening. Please heft a brew for me. Hearing of Pamela's trek, I no longer have distance as an excuse for future excursions. Have fun, everyone! Susan Maricle formerly of Folwell not so far away in Bruno, MN --- Mark Snyder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I enthusiastically second Craig's suggestion of Gastof's. It's been a while since I've done Oktoberfest, but it's very cool and the brews are supreme! So c'mon and venture over to our section of town and let the Nordeasters show ya how to party. :-) Maybe RT will even show up for a hit of the snuff? For those seeking vegan fare, perhaps some of us could gather over at Pizza Luce and join the festivities a little later on? Mark Snyder Windom Park (59A) [EMAIL PROTECTED] On 9/25/02 4:08 PM, Craig Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unless I am overruled by the list master, the die has been set. In honor of the longest traveling guest of our list, Pamela Taylor THE SOME WHAT QUARTERLY MPLS LIST GET TOGETHER is reconvening at Gasthof Zur Germutlichkeit 2300 University Avenue In Beautiful North East Minneapolis Friday October 4th 6:00PM-? They are in the middle and will be celebrating Octoberfest They have a big tent outside. This solves the smoke/no-smoke issue. Smoke if you have em, outside with the breeze. DRESS WARM. Bring gloves. I've been there during O'fest before. It's fun. The polka band plays from 6-9PM then moves downstairs to Mario's Ratskeller. Let's take in some Minnesota culture, sample some old world suds, and see if the hunters moon will pay us a visit. And see if those southsiders will dun to travel to parts unknown. Craig Miller Kid Camden [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Rybak urges police chief to become bold leader
Rybak urges police chief to become bold leader Rochelle Olson Star Tribune Published Sep 26, 2002 During Minneapolis Police Chief Robert Olson's annual job review Wednesday, Mayor R.T. Rybak pressed him to become a more visible chief, even as City Council members gave generally positive marks to the man Rybak tried to fire earlier this year. http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3326965.html Shawn Lewis, Field Neighborhood -- __ Sign-up for your own FREE Personalized E-mail at Mail.com http://www.mail.com/?sr=signup ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] MIA Expansion
Hi list- noone signed the MIA Expansion post- do you live in Whittier?? At a quick read, you have some of you facts wrong. But I'm on my way to work.. The MIA is one of the City's best. Many residents in Whittier do support the expansion. As far as the notification by the Whittier Alliance about meetings, post cards mailed and flyering done by staff. Check with the Whittier Alliance about the correct procedure at Board meetings, this was also done correctly. I salute the MIA for wanting to improve the property in Whittier, we need more of it. After I reread the post, more to come from a resident across the street from the MIA. Becky Olson Whittier Resident ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Top 10 Things for Kids 3 in Mpls
I often have trouble thinking like a two year old and I'm running out of ideas where to take my 5 and 23 month old children on the two days of childcare that I'm responsible for. And my regular haunts are not even in Mpls: Como Zoo, St.Paul Children's Museum; MN Science Museum; Mall of America, and MN History Museum. I tried the Sculpture Garden and my oldest loved the utility truck that belong to the guy who was polishing one of the sculptures (who was kind enough to let him play in it). His favorite thing at most of these places is the elevator. So...any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Michael Atherton Prospect Park ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Test Scores, Gettogethers. Multi-Use Development
My gosh, Jim Mork's suggestion of Maria's proves a point. If you look hard enough you find things that you absolutely agree with anyone on. You have to just keep looking. Maria's is great and they have a wine and beer license,(No smoking inside), and good food. There are evenings when they close early, but Maria and Pablo would probably open the restaurant just for the List get together. ( If we promise to be there). They also have a large backroom where we could have a private get together on other evenings or days. Jim Graham, Ventura Village ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Where to take kids in Minneapolis
Michael's child-entertainment question does point up how poor Minneapolis is compared to St. Paul in the obvious amenities. And as a parent who has recently had kids as young as his, I sympathize with the challenge. It made me do an inventory on my own child-entertainment choices, and made me realize how neighborhood-oriented our selections are. Here are a few, mostly localized... 1. Mill Ruins Park. You'll have to tote the baby, but for a two year old it's basically a neat riverfront park with lots of things nearby that are fun, like the Stone Arch Bridge, good for watching the lock and dam and raging river. 2. Tot lots at Lake Calhoun's east shore (again, nice scenery) and Painter Park at 34th Lyndale (awesome new playground equipment, though you'll be challenged holding the babe and keeping the 2-year-old from going too nuts) 3. Creative Kidstuff at 44th Upton (Sheridan?). Lots of toys, and very tolerant clerks who don't have a break-it-buy-it ethos. 4. Coffeeshops with good play areas. The Dunn Bros near Creative Kidstuff has a great tot play area so frazzled Dad can slug down some java. And there's a wonderful kid's used book selection at Rag Bone next door. A block away by the old fire station is another kids bookstore with (last I was there) cool pets. (List topic: Where are the other Minneapolis coffeeshops that have great play areas?) 5. Feeding the ducks at any city lake. True kiddie mirth ensues. That's a start, anyway. Great question, Michael. True Minneapolis culture. David Brauer King Field ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Skyway closure question
Now that the weather is starting to get colder the skyways entering the Minneapolis Convention Center have been posted that they will close for a while beginning next Friday, October 4th. Although it is somewhat circuitous, it is the skyway access from the south end of downtown. Does anyone know what the brain trust at City Hall has decided to close the skyways now? It certainly isn't a pedestrian friendly action. Terrell Brown Loring Park terrell at terrellbrown dot org __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Re: Roosevelt Library
The 6-7 blocks from 23rd Ave to the Hiawatha LRT are short blocks. It wouldn't take that long to walk them. Hopefully there will be bike racks and bike lockers available at the LRT stations to give people the option of a short bike ride to take the train. Mary Gibney Lyndale Question is: How far is too far to walk to a light rail station in Minneapolis? Jim Berg Corcoran Neighborhood (about 2.5 blocks from Lake Street station) John Rocker says, The city needs to increase its density along transit routes, but what both sides of the argument appear to be missing is that the site is almost one-half mile from the light rail stop at 38th and Hiawatha -- and that is twice as far as what is considered standard walking distance from the station. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Nasty, nutty neighbors
I'm dealing with a situation involving neighbors who are so weird, violent, or unsanitary that those living next to them actually have to move. (Note: this is not my problem directly and does not involve my immediate neighbors, including Ann Berget, a wonderful gardener, conversationalist and mother of the daughter who babysits my kids.) I'm trying to find Minneapolitans who have found themselves confronted with this problem so severe they've had to move or get their neighbors moved. Because people in this situation often don't want to have their names revealed, I promise complete confidentiality, and would prefer people contact me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks, David Brauer King Field ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Re: Roosevelt Library
Yes, I too am hoping that there will at least be bike racks at the LRT stations but what about being able to take your bike on the train for transportation at the other end? tom taylor Sheridan Neighborhood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 6-7 blocks from 23rd Ave to the Hiawatha LRT are short blocks. It wouldn't take that long to walk them. Hopefully there will be bike racks and bike lockers available at the LRT stations to give people the option of a short bike ride to take the train. Mary Gibney Lyndale ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Top 10 Things for Kids 3 in Mpls
Try the Minneapolis Institute of Arts - they have a children's activity room right by the snack bar. Mary Gibney Lyndale I often have trouble thinking like a two year old and I'm running out of ideas where to take my 5 and 23 month old children on the two days of childcare that I'm responsible for. And my regular haunts are not even in Mpls: Como Zoo, St.Paul Children's Museum; MN Science Museum; Mall of America, and MN History Museum. I tried the Sculpture Garden and my oldest loved the utility truck that belong to the guy who was polishing one of the sculptures (who was kind enough to let him play in it). His favorite thing at most of these places is the elevator. So...any help or suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Michael Atherton Prospect Park ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Art News
I am sure everyone has seen publicity around Art on the Town It is a self-guided tour of the Twin Cities Museum and Gallery Community and it is a great idea, full of special events and open houses. Visual arts are not getting the credit they deserve in this town. There is a very vibrant visual arts community, although it seems like the theaters get most of the press. Now is the time to see some of the gallery owners and artists and talk to them about their work. call (612) 532-1753 for more information or talk to someone at the participating galleries. A partial list includes: the Circa Gallery (612-332-2386) Intermedia Arts (612-871-) Gallery 360 (612-925-2400 and pARTS (612-824-5500) Mark Wilde Windom Park __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Fw: get to gether
I'm not sure what the capacity is at Keegan's, but I was thinking maybe Broadway Pizza on West River Road near the new Park Board digs...AND the Riverview Supper Club land (on it's way to SKY HIGH, market-rate, non- affordable housing...) The Broadway has other stuff besides pizza (great hoagies) and has a downstairs room that we could comandeer... They also have a FULL bar selection, unlike many other smaller spots up here on NorthSide. Plenty of parking and public transportation access and is a couple of blocks away from the River Road bike trail that comes from Minnehaha Falls through Downtown as well! Bob Velez Ward 4-1 -- Citizen Bob Velez Green Party endorsed candidate for Hennepin County Commissioner, District 1 AFSCME (Local 34) ENDORSED http://www.webspawner.com/users/citizenbobvelez/ Quoting Barbara Lickness [EMAIL PROTECTED]: I like the idea of Keegan's. Too bad Delisi's isn't open on Penn and Broadway anymore. Barb Lickness Whittier = Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world. Indeed, it's the only thing that ever has. -- Margaret Mead __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Re: Roosevelt Library
Yes, there will be bike lockers at the stations, and there will be racks to carry bikes on the cars, so you can take your bike with you. Unfortunately, there is no provision for bicycle traffic to cross the tracks at some of the more critical and dangerous intersections. You risk your life riding a bike down Lake Street under the overpass, and there is as yet no provision for bicycle or pedestrian traffic at the 46th and Hiawatha intersection. Ed Felien -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:04 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Mpls] Re: Roosevelt Library Yes, I too am hoping that there will at least be bike racks at the LRT stations but what about being able to take your bike on the train for transportation at the other end? tom taylor Sheridan Neighborhood [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The 6-7 blocks from 23rd Ave to the Hiawatha LRT are short blocks. It wouldn't take that long to walk them. Hopefully there will be bike racks and bike lockers available at the LRT stations to give people the option of a short bike ride to take the train. Mary Gibney Lyndale ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Where to take kids in Minneapolis
One of my 4 YO son's favorite things to do was to ride the bus with me downtown. We'd stare at the tall buildings, buy fruit from an outside vendor, ride the escalators and elevators, run through the skyways, have lunch at Daytons Marketplace, and stop for a 1/4 pound of sour cherries. Sunday was the best day to go, as the skyways were deserted. His favorite site at Daytons' was a huge grandfather clock by the escalator, as well as the entire furniture floor...I think it reminded him of the scene in the book Corduroy. It was fun for me, because I was able to carry on the 1960s tradition we enjoyed of going downtown with our parents...except I didn't wear a pillbox hat or white gloves. An interesting side benefit: because we rode the No. 5 bus through north Minneapolis, Wyatt knows what words he'll get in trouble over if he says them. Now that we're in a town of 102, Wyatt always asks me when we can go back downtown. Susan Maricle Bruno, MN __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Menacing I-35W Access Project
On Tuesday morning, along with a few of my neighbors, I attended the PAC meeting for the I-35W Access project. The PAC has consistently made decisions which harm the viability of historic resources adjacent to the project area, with a seeming complete disregard for the negative effects of their project on historic resources. I know that several PAC members actually are more sensitive and sensible than that, so I'll attribute their actions to lack of complete information; i.e. they are being played big time! Anyway, the meeting went on and on and on and on, and my neighbors had to leave - is anyone suprised that a Tuesday morning meeting that lasts over three hours isn't exactly conducive to public input? I was left alone to speak for the neighbors, which meant I'd be vulnerable to the marginalization that Tom Johnson so often engages in (only one person doesn't like the plan, etc). Well, knowing that most people couldn't make an all morning meeting on a workday, we drew up a lengthy petition that stated many issues and areas where positions need attention. Yes, PAC and Tom Johnson now officially have received the message loud and clear from all the folks that live along the freeway north of 32nd St to the 2900 block that their plan is not acceptable. Just because residents don't have endless hours and vacation time to devote to a four year process does not imply acceptance or satisfaction. In fact, one project organizer has been leading the PAC to believe that Clarissa Walker is OK with the project, when that is not her position. Clarissa has resigned herself to the inevitability of certain aspects of the project, but that resignation is not to be interpreted as support. None of the information is new to the PAC, as it was stated in several meetings with project organizers over the last four years, and consistently swept under the rug. Why do the project organizers feel they can ignore us? In one presentation regarding disproportionate impacts on poor and minority folks, a consultant used the words those people a lot, maybe that's a clue to the attitude. The plan as it exists today is unacceptable. Rework it with residents in mind, or trash it; it's not even worth a fraction of the $150 million price tag. David Piehl Central __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Where to take kids in Minneapolis
If your into planning alittle more, ArtiCulture has ongoing classes and one time workshops for kids of all ages - starting as young as age 1! My 1 1/2 year old has been going there since she was 14 months and has a blast. Check out the website www.articulture.org Liz Greenbaum Longfellow David Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael's child-entertainment question does point up how poor Minneapolis is compared to St. Paul in the obvious amenities. And as a parent who has recently had kids as young as his, I sympathize with the challenge. It made me do an inventory on my own child-entertainment choices, and made me realize how neighborhood-oriented our selections are. Here are a few, mostly localized... 1. Mill Ruins Park. You'll have to tote the baby, but for a two year old it's basically a neat riverfront park with lots of things nearby that are fun, like the Stone Arch Bridge, good for watching the lock and dam and raging river. 2. Tot lots at Lake Calhoun's east shore (again, nice scenery) and Painter Park at 34th Lyndale (awesome new playground equipment, though you'll be challenged holding the babe and keeping the 2-year-old from going too nuts) 3. Creative Kidstuff at 44th Upton (Sheridan?). Lots of toys, and very tolerant clerks who don't have a break-it-buy-it ethos. 4. Coffeeshops with good play areas. The Dunn Bros near Creative Kidstuff has a great tot play area so frazzled Dad can slug down some java. And there's a wonderful kid's used book selection at Rag Bone next door. A block away by the old fire station is another kids bookstore with (last I was there) cool pets. (List topic: Where are the other Minneapolis coffeeshops that have great play areas?) 5. Feeding the ducks at any city lake. True kiddie mirth ensues. That's a start, anyway. Great question, Michael. True Minneapolis culture. David Brauer King Field ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls __ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Lake Street Divided Freeway Update
The proposal to create a divided freeway out of Lake Street for several blocks east and west of I35W is alive and well, and potentially spreading. The divided freeway concept, with it's 7 lanes, will destroy a whole list of businesses, and possibly prevent the Sherman proposal for Nicollet Lake from going forward due to the reduced amount of space available for businesses and affordable housing. The space on Lake in front of Nico Plating, which currently houses several businesses, will be reduced to a dead-space for snow storage. Is this considered the highest and best use for otherwise prime commercial property?? Project organizers have defended the the divided highway by saying that it's limited to four or five blocks. (apparently implying that a scourge is ok if it is limited in scope) I warned that it sets the stage for additional re-vamping of Lake into a freeway format, and Dave Jensen (PAC rep)accused me of conspiracy theories. Not suprisingly, at yesterday's meeting there was talk of eventually beefing up the infrastructure along the rest of Lake Street. Guess what that means? Does anyone wonder why the multi-million dollar planning stage of this project doesn't have a few thousand dollars for public notification available?? Four years ago, at the outset of the project, Sara Hernandez (the Honeywell rep) and Jana Metge worked out a thorough communication strategy for the PAC, which included flyering neighborhoods, etc. to ensure adequate input and knowlege of the project. The communication plan was not executed. Thanks to Ed Felien, Green Party candidate for Hennepin County Commission, for stopping in on the meeting - I'm impressed with his attention to the situation and grasp of the impacts; where was Peter McLaughlin? (and don't tell me at work, the rest of us had to take time out of our workday to accomodate, so can he) David Piehl Central __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Fw: get to gether
I would show up with a quickness to any gathering involving Ethiopian food. -Brandon _ Join the worlds largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Where to take kids in Minneapolis
Good thread. Been there, done that - with 6 and a 4 year old boys, I'd like to add a few the places where this Dad and his kids like to spend time. Many outside the city limits but not too far. Sometimes you have to think regionally, even venturing to the scary regions south of 46th street. 1. The Bell Museum down at the U has all kinds of stuffed animals and other nature displays. 2. The Bakken Museum of electricity and magnetism (west side of Lake Calhoun) is great for older kids but probably not right for the 3 and under crowd. Great crafts and activities on Saturdays. 3. The Walker and the Institute of Arts have really good weekend family programs with some hands-on projects for the kids, readings, music, etc.But I wouldn't hesitate to bring them to either during the week, either, and just look at the exhibits. 4. Minnehaha Falls. Walk down to the creekbed below the falls and from there to the Mississippi. Maybe a mile hike or a little longer. Not for strollers with tiny wheels. 5. Near that, Fort Snelling. Again, good familiy programs on the weekends but generally interesting otherwise as well. Views of the Mississippi. Also, the area just down the hill from the fort and the bridge over to Pike Island are nice places to hike. 6. Minnesota Valley National Wildlife Refuge has a visitors center across 494 from the airport. You take the 34th Ave. exit and go south to get there. Nice exhibits in the visitor center about the river's ecosystem, some of which are the touch-and-feel variety. Steep walk from there down to the river (remember you have to walk back up). 7. Weekends again - the model train exhibit at Bandana square. Not to be missed. 8. Three rivers Park system (formerly Hennepin Parks) often has really good weekend programs for kids and families. Crafts and/or a nature hike or demonstration. 9. It's getting late for this, but fishing at any of the docks in the city lakes is good. We never walk away without catching a bunch of sunfish. Get one of those little kiddie fishing poles to minimize risks. 10. Oh, I almost forgot. Lock and Dam number 1 - on the mississippi where Minnehaha parkway meets the River. You can watch the boats go up and down through the locks and there's some really interesting exhibits on the outdoor viewing platforms about the history of the lock and dam system all up and down the river. General tip: for weekend activities, I always check the outdoors and family sections of the Strib's Time Out section, which comes out on Saturdays. David Curle East Harriet ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] I-35 W Access Project: Why do they ignore us?
Question posed by David Piehl: Why do the project organizers feel they can ignore us? Answers provided by Vicky Heller: Because they regard themselves as much smarter than we. Because they are not spending their own money, thus have nothing to lose. Because they become intoxicated with the notion of having power. Because we let them get away with it. Happy to help, Vicky Heller Cedar-Riverside (work) North Oaks (home) ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Roosevelt library
I know we're all hearty Minnesotans, happy to walk 3 miles around the frozen lake in subzero temperatures just to see the sun, but 1/4 mile is still considered normal walking distance when considering how far a person will walk for goods or services. The (sad) fact is most people will hop in the car before walking more than 1/4 mile, so we need to plan our city accordingly if we want to reduce car traffic and parking lots. I wasn't involved in planning for the Roosevelt library and I'm sure there were many considerations in choosing a site; I'm just surprised the city isn't using this project as a way to kick-start smart development at a rail station. For those that would like someone else's opinion: A distance of 0.40 km (0.25 mi) is usually considered the maximum people are willing to walk to use public transportation. (The Connection Between Public Transit and Employment, Journal of the American Planning Association, 1999.) According to the Nationwide Personal Transportation Survey (NTPS), the majority of pedestrian trips are 0.25 miles or less... NPTS data also shows that land use patterns and population density have a big impact on trip distance. Higher density communities with mixed land use patterns will have higher levels of walking because destinations are more likely to be located within walking distance of homes and businesses. (Walkinginfo.org) A comfortable walking distance, is widely accepted as one-quarter mile network distance. (Regulating Urban Form at the Metropolitan Scale: A Preliminary Assessment of Portland's 2040 Plan, University of Illinois, May 2002 -- from the National Center for Smart Growth.) John Rocker Calhoun ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Kids, Trains, Freeways,
David Brauer: Michael's child-entertainment question does point up how poor Minneapolis is compared to St. Paul in the obvious amenities. Huh? Or in unimaginative parents. I know kids whose parents and relatives found plenty of things to do with them. The question is really What is really appropriate for a 2-year-old? The fact is that it takes hardly anything to entertain them. When I babysat kids that age, I would take them to a park to play in sand and swing. What is this notion that you have to start at TWO buying things? You think a 2-year-old even appreciates that sort of thing. And a parent who gets in the consumption mode that early will only have himself to blame later on. tom taylor Sheridan Neighborhood: Yes, I too am hoping that there will at least be bike racks at the LRT stations but what about being able to take your bike on the train for transportation at the other end? You mean a bike car? Seems ideal for a train since its just another car, one that doesnt have to have windows. I imagine maybe the bike riders could simply get ON with their bikes and ride in that car. Ed Felien :Unfortunately, there is no provision for bicycle traffic to cross the tracks at some of the more critical and dangerous intersections. You risk your life riding a bike down Lake Street under the overpass, and there is as yet no provision for bicycle or pedestrian traffic at the 46th and Hiawatha intersection. I ride my bike up from Lake to 32nd and cross there. Pretty nice since they fixed the freight tracks to be smooth. David Piehl: Yes, PAC and Tom Johnson now officially have received the message loud and clear from all the folks that live along the freeway north of 32nd St to the 2900 block that their plan is not acceptable. Just because residents don't have endless hours and vacation time to devote to a four year process does not imply acceptance or satisfaction. Sounding like the Hiawatha Re-route all over again. You know, now that they have Internet and workstations in libraries, why cant they accept public comment on boards like this, so that people can not only post their own sentiments, they can read what other public members have to say. = Jim Mork (Cooper Neighborhood) Vote Wellstone! One of the few people in Washington who'll stick his neck out for BOTH the stockholders (combatting management fraud) AND the working people. Bush's war. What's it for? Polls and profits, Nothing more! __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Where to take kids in Minneapolis
Another big hit -- the Streetcar running between Linden Hills (the stop is near the Lake Harriet Bandshell) and Lake Calhoun. Only $1.50 per passenger, and kids under 3 are free. Betsy Schmiesing Linden Hills -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 10:57 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [Mpls] Where to take kids in Minneapolis If your into planning alittle more, ArtiCulture has ongoing classes and one time workshops for kids of all ages - starting as young as age 1! My 1 1/2 year old has been going there since she was 14 months and has a blast. Check out the website www.articulture.org Liz Greenbaum Longfellow David Brauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael's child-entertainment question does point up how poor Minneapolis is compared to St. Paul in the obvious amenities. And as a parent who has recently had kids as young as his, I sympathize with the challenge. It made me do an inventory on my own child-entertainment choices, and made me realize how neighborhood-oriented our selections are. Here are a few, mostly localized... 1. Mill Ruins Park. You'll have to tote the baby, but for a two year old it's basically a neat riverfront park with lots of things nearby that are fun, like the Stone Arch Bridge, good for watching the lock and dam and raging river. 2. Tot lots at Lake Calhoun's east shore (again, nice scenery) and Painter Park at 34th Lyndale (awesome new playground equipment, though you'll be challenged holding the babe and keeping the 2-year-old from going too nuts) 3. Creative Kidstuff at 44th Upton (Sheridan?). Lots of toys, and very tolerant clerks who don't have a break-it-buy-it ethos. 4. Coffeeshops with good play areas. The Dunn Bros near Creative Kidstuff has a great tot play area so frazzled Dad can slug down some java. And there's a wonderful kid's used book selection at Rag Bone next door. A block away by the old fire station is another kids bookstore with (last I was there) cool pets. (List topic: Where are the other Minneapolis coffeeshops that have great play areas?) 5. Feeding the ducks at any city lake. True kiddie mirth ensues. That's a start, anyway. Great question, Michael. True Minneapolis culture. David Brauer King Field ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls __ The NEW Netscape 7.0 browser is now available. Upgrade now! http://channels.netscape.com/ns/browsers/download.jsp Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] coffeeshops and ducks
Hello List, in response to David Brauer's recent email re: kid activities in Mpls: "(List topic: Where are the other Minneapolis coffeeshops that have great play areas?) 5. Feeding the ducks at any city lake. True kiddie mirth ensues. That's a start, anyway. Great question, Michael. True Minneapolis culture. David Brauer King Field" I would suggest the Riverview Cafe, a coffeeshop at the corner of 38th Street and 42nd Avenue, kitty corner from the old Riverview (?) Theater, across the street from a garden store and next door to a wonderful gift shop. My daughter likes the play area there, and the coffeeshop and its neighbors are attractive. As for duck feeding, I'd check on that one. The Mpls. Parks' offices have a little flyer about why we should not feed the geese at the parks. I would guess that extends to ducks, too. But I know, it's fun. Gail Von Bargen Hale neighborhood
Re: [Mpls] Fw: get to gether
Great idea Bob! Broadway pizza is a Northside institution sadly unknown to much of the Southside. Great pizza, and a union house to boot! If folks want to reserve the basement, last I remember it was not wheelchair accessible, so best check first if this will prevent anyone's attending. I work weekday evenings playing Post Office, but could make it on a weekend. It would be great to give the Southside folks who have never seen the river above the falls a first hand view of our neighborhoods problems and potential. peace, Dyna Sluyter, unpaid correctional officer in Hawthorne I'm not sure what the capacity is at Keegan's, but I was thinking maybe Broadway Pizza on West River Road near the new Park Board digs...AND the Riverview Supper Club land (on it's way to SKY HIGH, market-rate, non- affordable housing...) The Broadway has other stuff besides pizza (great hoagies) and has a downstairs room that we could comandeer... They also have a FULL bar selection, unlike many other smaller spots up here on NorthSide. Plenty of parking and public transportation access and is a couple of blocks away from the River Road bike trail that comes from Minnehaha Falls through Downtown as well! Bob Velez Ward 4-1 -- ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Where to take kids in Minneapolis
Try walking the creeks in town throughout the year and notice the changing water flows, vegetation, wild life, insects, colors, etc. Same around the lakes, but the creeks offer more diversity I think. Rivers are my favorite, but are more dangerous for the little ones. Check with the local parks and libraries-- they offer many programs for the kids on a year around basis. Community education offers kids programming during the summer at least... check them out next year. Visit the pound... check out all the potential pets! ;-) Michael Hohmann Linden Hills ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Lake Street Divided Freeway Update
At 09:10 AM 9/26/02 -0700, Dave Piehl wrote: The proposal to create a divided freeway out of Lake Street for several blocks east and west of I35W is alive and well, and potentially spreading. Thanks David, for posting the latest about the PAC committee. I'll agree, it's very hard for most neighbors to take vacation time to participate in these Tuesday morning meetings. What is also disheartening is how this meeting time was changed from 10 AM to 9 AM at very short notice. Let's look at the most recent improvement made to Lake St by the DOT. This ofcourse is the infamous -- and dangerous intersection of Hiawatha and Lake. A list member said this intersection is dangerous for bikes. It is dangerous for bikes, cars, pedestrians and basically anyone who is in the area. Ofcourse, it's also quite ugly, and makes the area around this more unpleasant to be in. The biggest laugh is how the divided highway concept will make things more pedestrian friendly. How does having to walk across the street in two stints -- plus a wait on the median strip mean pedestrian friendly? A divided highway gives the impression this is an area to drive through, not participate in -- and means faster driving. There are people in the neighborhood. I'd rather see Nicollet and Lake be more like Lake and Lyndale - and not like Lake and Hiawatha. The divided freeway concept, with it's 7 lanes, will destroy a whole list of businesses, and possibly prevent the Sherman proposal for Nicollet Lake from going forward due to the reduced amount of space available for businesses and affordable housing. The space on Lake in front of Nico Plating, which currently houses several businesses, will be reduced to a dead-space for snow storage. Is this considered the highest and best use for otherwise prime commercial property?? Good question. Peter McLaughlin is on the list. Perhaps he can take a stab at this one. Project organizers have defended the the divided highway by saying that it's limited to four or five blocks. (apparently implying that a scourge is ok if it is limited in scope) I warned that it sets the stage for additional re-vamping of Lake into a freeway format, and Dave Jensen (PAC rep)accused me of conspiracy theories. Not suprisingly, at yesterday's meeting there was talk of eventually beefing up the infrastructure along the rest of Lake Street. Guess what that means? Well look at Lake and Hiawatha. That's exhibit A of the eyesores and equal opportunity dangerous places for cars, bikes and pedestrians. MNDOT has the attitude of we know more than you do about what is good for the neighborhood. Hopefully Dave Jensen can chime in and explain his conspiracy theory comment. It seems like a way to defuse the real issue, and go after the person raising the issue to me. Does anyone wonder why the multi-million dollar planning stage of this project doesn't have a few thousand dollars for public notification available?? Four years ago, at the outset of the project, Sara Hernandez (the Honeywell rep) and Jana Metge worked out a thorough communication strategy for the PAC, which included flyering neighborhoods, etc. to ensure adequate input and knowlege of the project. The communication plan was not executed. Why? Perhaps Tom Johnson, Peter McLaughlin or Dave Jensen can explain? I guess I have another question -- why does Urban Ventures have representatives on the PAC? They aren't neighborhood organizations. Thanks to Ed Felien, Green Party candidate for Hennepin County Commission, for stopping in on the meeting - I'm impressed with his attention to the situation and grasp of the impacts; where was Peter McLaughlin? (and don't tell me at work, the rest of us had to take time out of our workday to accomodate, so can he) Goes without saying. This is yet another example of Peter McLaughlin's arrogance. Eva Young Near North Minneapolis, MN ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
RE: [Mpls] Where to take kids in Minneapolis
David Asked: Where are the other Minneapolis coffeeshops that have great play areas? The Riverview Cafe, kitty-corner from the Riverview theater (both on the corner of 42nd Ave and 38th St.) has a play area. They also have a story time, from what I've seen posted on the door, though I don't know the times. Other stuff for kids: there's a neat little sculpture park hidden near the terminus of the Marshall bridge (I think). It's near A440 studios, if that helps anyone. It's just exactly what I liked when I was a kid - big weird pieces of stone you can sit on, climb on, etc. Robin Garwood Seward ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Minneapolis' arts organizations boost state, local economy
Minneapolis' arts organizations deliver big-bucks to State and local economy 8,504 full-time jobs and $27.9 million in state and local revenue Minneapolis' nonprofit arts industry generates nearly $28 million in state and local revenue and 8,405 full-time jobs according to a study by Americans for the Arts. The national report, Arts Economic Prosperity: The Economic Impact of Nonprofit Arts Organizations and Their Audiences, looked at 91 U.S. cities and how the nonprofit arts industry impacted local and state economies. Minneapolis is home to a thriving arts community that enhances our lives with spectacular cultural attractions, creative fun for our youth and amazing works of art, said Mayor R.T. Rybak. Now we've got some bottom line numbers that show the tremendous contribution the arts make in bringing dollars and jobs to our community. The local data reveal that Minneapolis' nonprofit arts industry generates $269.4 million in economic activity annually, including: * 8,504 full-time equivalent jobs * $214 million in resident household income * $8.3 million in local government revenues * $19.6 million in state government revenues. The $269.4 million total includes $171.2 million in spending by arts organizations and $98.2 million in event-related spending by arts audiences (excluding admission). The $98.2 million in event-related spending by arts audiences reflects an average of $19.09 per person in spending for hotels, restaurants, parking, souvenirs, refreshments, or other similar costs. Those attending events from outside Minneapolis spend significantly more than local attendees ($33.97compared to $14.85). The City of Minneapolis Office of Cultural Affairs helped facilitate gathering detailed economic data from the 300 local arts organizations surveyed, which were among 3,000 local arts organizations surveyed nation wide. According to the report, nationally, the nonprofit arts industry generates 4.9 million jobs and $134 billion in economic activity every year, resulting in $24.4 billion in federal, state and local government revenues. The $134 billion total includes $53.2 billion in spending by arts organizations and $80.8 billion in event-related spending by arts audiences. Americans for the Arts is the leading nonprofit organization for advancing the arts in America. The national study was funded by the American Express Company, the National Endowment for the Arts, and community-based arts partners in each of the 91 cities. The full text of the report is available at www.AmericansForTheArts.org/EconomicImpact. If you wish to subscribe to City of Minneapolis news updates, please click on the e-subscribe button at www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us. Vaman Pai Communications Department City of Minneapolis 612.673.2123 ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] traffic stops and cops
What no one seems to want to open: Randy Moss and his traffic citation. YEAH! This is great. Several years ago I came within inches of getting creamed by a car in my neighborhood. THe car failed to stop at a stop sign, failed to yield to traffic on a through street (which was me), was speeding I called the second precinct and reported the make, model and tab number of the vehicle and gave a description of as much of the driver as I could see, which was basically nose, neck, shoulders and knuckles. It looked like one of Clem Haskins' star players to me--the really big one. The cop on the desk would not even take a complaint because You didn't see the driver's full face, Ma'am and you would not be able to positively identify this person under oath. The cop then incompletely covered the receiver and said to someone in the room, It's just a call on _. Musta had a fight with his girlfriend. My what a difference! :) Emilie Quast SE Como ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Where You WONT be able to take your kids. (if the 35W Access folks have their way)
The 35W Access folks want to build a freeway ramp through the tot lot at 28th Street. Ken Avidor Kingfield ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Menacing I-35W Access Project
Dave Piehl wrote: RE: PAC meeting for the I-35W Access project. The PAC has consistently made decisions which harm the viability of historic resources adjacent to the project area, with a seeming complete disregard for the negative effects of their project on historic resources. The specific problem you broached, David, was the area in front of your block. You claim the PAC had made decisions which affected the area, but that was not the case. That specific issue was next on the agenda AFTER you spoke. At that point the PAC was to receive the recommendation of the small group working on that specific piece. The PAC had not received the report, ergo had not made a decision. Yes, PAC and Tom Johnson now officially have received the message loud and clear from all the folks that live along the freeway north of 32nd St to the 2900 block that their plan is not acceptable. Actually, the PAC received an alleged petition with no names attached. So all they know is that a petition may have been circulated, but apparently no one signed it. The plan as it exists today is unacceptable. You do not have the plan as it exists today. The entire plan has not been presented, nor will it be until November, I think. When the plan is presented, the whole plan, the entire plan, THEN is the time to critique it. WizardMarks, Central __ Do you Yahoo!? New DSL Internet Access from SBC Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] traffic stops and cops
At 03:05 PM 9/26/02 -0500, Robert Schmid wrote: (One note in the Vikings favor - they are fining Moss $50K. Minnesota won't fine him more than $2K and I doubt he'll see jail time even if he's found guilty.) He's driving a car that costs more than I make in a year, I believe. The fine is something like (need a calculator, here) 4% of his contract. this does not qualify as a slap, sorry. hardly as a tap. BUT at least he did get no early out of the hoosegow, and for that I thank anyone responsible. I don't like the idea of [follow the rules] when I want to. As I pointed out, most celebs, how ever modest their celebrity, have a habit of getting off the hook entirely. Emilie Quast SE Como ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Community Gardens in the Minneapolis StarTribune
If you havent already, have a look at the article about community gardens and housing development in todays Minneapolis StarTribune: http://www.startribune.com/stories/1671/3237680.html Theres more information in the print version. -Corrie Corrie Zoll, Program Director GreenSpace Partners A program of The Green Institute 2801 21st Avenue South, Suite 110 Minneapolis, MN 55407 Telephone 612-278-7119 Facsimile 612-278-7101 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.greeninstitute.org/GSP
Re: [Mpls] Top 10 Things for Kids 3 in Mpls
I agree, you have to think regionally. Surprised no one mentioned this so far. Take your kids to the Minnesota Zoo. The place is absolutely lousy with kids and their moms all year 'round, but especially in the winter. Savvy families buy a membership and then whenever the kids get restless, pop them in the car and out to the zoo! Not only are the animals interesting to watch, but there's hands-on activities for the kids (like Zoolab) where they can touch the animals, lots of artifacts that are tactile and friendly volunteer docents (like me) who can interpret the animals to you and your kids. There is even a Kiddie Korner in the Tropics (usually only open in the winter when we have more time) where there is story time and other pre-school activities. Not to mention the Coral Reef aquarium and the Carribean aquarium where you can watch the divers feeding the fish and/or the sharks or just watch the fish float by, or the Dolphin Shows Bird Shows (all free, after you've paid admission) plus animal demonstrations (2 a day). There is also a Petting Zoo at the Farm -- a working dairy farm within the Zoo --and we have lots of babies out there right now -- the little kids always like to see the babies. Right now there is a baby dolphin (there is going to be a naming contest in the Pioneer Press), 4 beaver kits, a baby meerkat, baby Takin, a couple Pronghorn fawns, a couple Musk Oxen calves, and I believe there is also a baby Caribou. This is in addition to the babies at the Petting Zoo. There are also day camps for kids -- this might only be in the summer, you'd have to check, plus there is a program for special events, like birthday parties for the kiddies. If you call ahead, you can schedule a tour (it's free), not sure how many you have to have in the group. Believe me, there is nothing like being in a tropical rainforest in the middle of winter! The Zoo is about 10 minutes south of Minneapolis' border. Take Cedar Ave. south to Cty. Rd. 38 and turn left at the top of the exit. It's about 1.5 miles down the road. You can't miss it. Barbara Nelson Burnsville Once and future Minneapolitan -- Barbara Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] True friends stab you in the front. --Oscar Wilde ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] An invitation to Get in the Gutter with the Mayor
Get in the Gutter with the Mayor WHAT? Join Mayor R.T. Rybak on Sept. 29 as he Gets in the Gutter to protect Minneapolis' lakes. WHEN? 10:30 a.m., Sunday Sept. 29 WHERE? Lake Harriet Bandshell (northwest portion of Lake Harriet Parkway) WHY?Leaves are natural ... yet if you rake leaves into streets and sidewalks they wash into storm drains and eventually end up - untreated - in Minneapolis' lakes and waterways. Those leaves and nutrients over-fertilize lake water and encourage harmful aquatic plants and algae to thrive. MORE? Autumn is the season of changing and falling leaves. The perfect time to remind folks that, there are many reasons to love leaves. Leaves piled high in the yard are a joy to jump into. Leaves pressed in a book or rubbed with a crayon can create art. Leaves can be tasty, when they're leaf-shaped cookies. But leaves raked into city streets and sidewalks wash - untreated - into Minneapolis' lakes, streams and the River. Decomposing leaves in city streets and sidewalks can be one of the top polluters of Minneapolis lakes. Join Mayor Rybak at Lake Harriet as he chats with folks and reminds them not to rake leaves into city streets by handing out leaf-shaped cookies and encouraging youngsters to create leaf art. Laura Sether Offfice of Mayor Rybak ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] MIA expansion retort
A neighbor responds to John Kremer's comments regarding the MIA expansion proposal. 1. Process: I am the Chair of the Whittier Alliances Transportation and strenuously disagree with John Kremers assertion that the residents on Stevens Avenue were not adequately noticed regarding the MIAs plans. The MIA presented a plan view in April at a meeting attended by a number of Stevens Avenue residents, including John Kremer. Over forty people attended the meeting, including Councilmembers Dean Zimmerman and Robert Lilligren, and State Senator Linda Berglin (I-35W issues were also on the agenda, which is why they were there). Linda Mack from the Strib came in order to see the MIAs plan. So the word got out in the community. Another Whittier Alliance meeting was held in July. Notice was sent to 750 people, and in addition, each resident on Stevens Avenue was sent a post card. I had several telephone conversations with concerned Stevens Avenue residents before the meeting. I explained the process to them, and encouraged them to participate. A notice was also published on the back page of the Whittier Globe. At the July meeting, the MIA had at least eight staffers and consultants available to answer questions. Everyone from the transportation consultant (Mike Monihan) to the construction person to the architect to the arborist was there. Contrary to Johns comments, the question and answer period was extended numerous times to allow everyone to ask questions. There was enough time to allow people to ask multiple questions. Further, residents received mailed notice from the City of Minneapolis for the HPC and Planning Commission meetings. I received two notices and live on the east side of the MIA. Further, notice was posted on stakes all around the MIA site. In the meantime, the press covered the story. The Strib published a story by Linda Mack on July 12, and the SW Journal also ran an MIA story. All this occurred well before the HPC and Planning Commission met. In sum, a lot of people worked very hard to get notice out and to give people an opportunity to comment on the proposal. So it is grossly unfair and inaccurate to accuse the Whittier Alliance and/or the City of Minneapolis of not giving the neighbors adequate notice and opportunity to comment. 2. Scale/Design: Reasonable people can disagree about design issues, but I like it. As for the setbacks, I live on the 3rd Avenue side of the MIA and you don't hear me complaining about the Childrens Theatres similar expansion footprint. I think the footprint is reasonable and that there is ample precedent for the design. Take a walk down 3rd Avenue from the MIA to downtown and you will see that the neighborhood is dominated by multi-story apartment buildings built right up to the sidewalk. The commercial building at 26th and Stevens one of the most beautiful in the neighborhood is tall and built right up to the sidewalk. There are residential towers, commercial buildings, church steeples, etc. of similar height just around the corner from the MIA. Further, Stevens Avenue residences are densely clustered, and uniformly have their sun blocked by their neighbors homes to the south. This is life in the inner city. 3. Parking: John Kremer stated that the zoning code would require the MIA to supply 1700 parking spaces. If that analysis is correct, I demand that the MIA get a parking variance. I dont want the MIA, the Childrens Theatre, or MCAD to acquire any more land to supply parking for the campus. Councilmember Dean Zimmerman likes to say that what the zoning code needs is a parking maximum. Hes right. Further, as John Kremer knows, but irresponsibly omitted, two years ago the MIA purchased and demolished the Rodeway Inn Site and built a large surface parking lot on the site. Because of this acquisition, there currently is TOO MUCH parking available for the campus. The Rodeway Inn lot largely sits empty. I doubt the lower lot has ever been filled. If Stevens Avenue residents dont want MIA patrons and staff parking in front of their homes, perhaps a residential permit system could be worked out. But I personally think that theres enough parking to go around, and that occasionally looking for parking is part of urban life. Those of us who live on the 3rd Avenue side of the MIA bear the brunt of the traffic and parking impacts that the campus brings to us. Personally, I rather like seeing happy children walk from their buses or cars, and people in tuxedos and dresses go to events. If I wanted to live on a car free street that kept all strangers out, Id move to a cul de sac in the burbs. 4. Summary. I think the MIA is a great neighbor, and I love living by them. It's my point of reference when I tell people where I live, and I'm proud of that. Im exited about the expansion, and think that the proposed changes will improve the neighborhood. Perhaps some detailed design issues need to be
[Mpls] Re: Where to take kids in Minneapolis
Here are a few places to take kids (though not technically in Mpls): - go to the airport and watch planes take off land. You can see a lot from the departure areas, but nowdays security may limit this to passengers only. If you take the time to inquire, there is probably some way to arrange a tour in other parts of the airport. Kids find the baggage handling area (back behind the carousels) interesting. And you might be able to get into a hanger where they are cleaning or repairing a plane. The 2-yr-old might not be that impressed with this, but kids from about 5-12 generally like this. - visit the barns at the UofM St. Paul campus. For city kids, seeing the horses, cows, etc. up close can be real interesting. Just like going to the barns at the State Fair, but without the crowds. I know they have an open house every April, but you might be able to arrange a tour at other times. Every other Monday @1:30 they have a tour. It's intended for prospective vet college students, but you might be able to tag along on that. - visit the SuperValu distribution center in Hopkins. I believe tours can be arranged via the company headquarters. Kids (and adults, too) are often interested in seeing a huge warehouse full of food, and all the automated conveyors equipment used to load the trucks. And seeing a freezer full of ice cream big enough to need a snowplow forklift, or a bank of coolers each 8 feet wide by 30 feet high, all full of bananas, or potatoes by the ton, is certainly an experience. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Mpls loses W. Broadway case
It is not good that a business was hurt, and, for legal reasons, McNair Ave. N. probably should not have been blocked. And there may or may not have been 'highhandedness' in the action. However, speaking only about traffic safety, it does not appear unreasonable to me to block the street. McNair enters at an odd angle into one of the busiest intersections in the City. Penn Ave. and West Broadway form four legs; McNair makes it a 5-way intersection. Dave Stack Harrison David Brauer wrote: Street barricades unfairly harmed business; Supreme Court rejects city's appeal; Cherryhomes pushed through the policy over staff objections; damages may be in hundreds of thousands of dollars... http://www.startribune.com/stories/462/3319702.html Craig Miller wrote: This case is quintessential in describing what most business operators hate about Mpls. 1. If this doesn't define highhandedness, unabashed naked abuse of power. Chose your clever phrase. 2. One party rule, boss of the council. 3. If the lawyers at city hall were any good they would work for Fagre and Benson. If they had any class they would have refused to argue the case. They would have resigned. They could have sued the city for forced misrepresentation. 4. Anyone who takes the city's side on this one does not have the sense god gave a doughnut. Jackie Cherryhomes was out to destroy a business and it's human being owner. She didn't care how much she abused her office, the constitution, the taxpayers purse. None of that mattered. And she held what most considered the most important job in town. Thank the heavens for Natalie Johnson-Lee. 5. If the barriers are still up at noon today, the city needs to lose 10 million. Thank someone for paying the lawyers who won this case, and the one for American Iron. The city has lost it's willpower to do good. Doing wrong pays more. 6. The sad thing about all of this is this: Before 12:00 noon today it will have happened again to another small business owner who doesn't have the muscle to fight back. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Where to take your kids - an aunt's perspective
Based on experience, I suggest taking them to Casinos and racetracks. It is amazing how quickly they learn math, probabilities, good sportsmanship, and social graces. Two added benefits: You will enjoy yourself too, and it costs nothing - IF you win! Let's build a Minneapolis Casino - for the children. Vicky Heller North Oaks ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Roosevelt Library and Mixed Use
I was sitting here this evening watching "Ken Burns: The Civil War" and they had a picture of the Capital as it was being constructed. On top the dome of the building isa statue of a woman. The statue is called "Statue of Freedom" and she was placed there in 1863 during the height of the Civil War. When she was placed on the top of the capital building, a salute was fired from the forts surrounding the Capital, which had been almost overrun by Confederate troops just a year or so earlier. The architect meant her to symbolize "Freedom Triumphant in War and Peace" and at a time when the nation was in the midst of a war more bloody and tragic than anyone could imagine, she was placed there, on top of the Capital as a symbol for what the country was striving for. I was also thinking about the Roosevelt Library proposal and how there is a proposal to make it part of a mixed use development. How the Librarywould sit there, next to the laundry mat and maybe a McDonald's and someone's groceries waiting to go up to their apartment. Andhow this really cheapened the meaning of what a library is. The Library isn't simply a Barnes and Noble, another store to meet your daily needs, a warehouse of books. A Library is a place where democracy happens. A Library is a place where everyone is equal, everyone is welcome, a place that provides knowledge and support for everyone. It isa tiefrom our past to our future, a place of permanence and strength in our community. It reflects our values. It is a place that defines who we are and who we will be. I would offer the following quote: "We have all but entirely broken away from the Renaissance concept of an architecture standing for permanence and political power, an architecture of stone celebrating an unchangeable political and religious order. The notion of building a symbol for posterity - much less a symbol for the ages - is not longer taken seriously. In hard times (which eventually come to every community no matter what its size or wealth) what makes survival possible and desirable is not its archeological identity but its ability to continue, and it continues because some structures, some institutions and facilities provide continuity. These are the landmarks, [and they] stand for continuity, community identity, for links with the past and the future. In the contemporary American community, these roles are what counteract our mobility and fragmentation and forgetfulness of its history. JB Jackson"Stone and its Substitutes" 1994 A library in a mixed use development will never be a landmark, will never provide identity, and ultimately cheapens what a library should be for our community. I would hope the Library Board and the City would consider building a landmark rather than a retail outlet for the Roosevelt Library and I would hope the community accepts nothing less. Carol Becker Longfellow For more informationon the "Statue of Freedom": http://www.aoc.gov/cc/art/freedom.htm
[Mpls] County Commisioner Issues
It has been a week since Peter McLaughlin posted a item about his accomplishments. It was nice, but he has not yet answered Jordan Kushner's follow-up questions, some of which Ed Felien had also posed: 1) Why have you appeared to consistently support public funding for a private sports stadium? 2) What was your role in the decision to have Highway 55 fly over Lake Street while causing a much larger delay in the traffic lights at that intersection? 3) Why did you sign your names as one of the co-authors of an op-ed piece in the Star Tribune on March 27, 2001, in which you appeared to denounce the Minnesota Attorney General's investigation of Allina Health System's unethical practices? 4) How do you justify your consistent past support for the Highway 55 reroute near the Mississippi river which was destructive to the environment, the community, Native American culture, and has actually led to more rather than less traffic? 5) How do you compare or distinguish your political agenda from your allies in the city of Mineapolis' DFL leadership who were defeated in last year's elections? These are some issues that a lot of us would like to hear about. Mr. McLaughlin, how about stepping up to the plate, so to speak? Please engage Mr. Felien and those of us who are planning to cast a vote in November in a real dialogue on the issues. If you have some questions that you'd like to pose to Mr. Felien, please post them. Let's hear about issues that affect our lives. Walt Cygan Keewaydin ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
[Mpls] Fw: get together/and build market rate in the hood
In a message dated 9/26/02 8:41:37 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm not sure what the capacity is at Keegan's, but I was thinking maybe Broadway Pizza on West River Road near the new Park Board digs...AND the Riverview Supper Club land (on it's way to SKY HIGH, market-rate, non- affordable housing...) The Broadway has other stuff besides pizza (great hoagies) and has a downstairs room that we could comandeer... They also have a FULL bar selection, unlike many other smaller spots up here on NorthSide. Plenty of parking and public transportation access and is a couple of blocks away from the River Road bike trail that comes from Minnehaha Falls through Downtown as well! Bob Velez Ward 4-1 Hooray for market rate development, sky-high and otherwise. This new project will free up used homes to go on the market. Those additional, used, homes will dilute, further, the number of home offerings available and help keep home prices lower for all buyers. And thus promote the affordability of housing. Mr. Velez, snooty implications that SKY HIGH (your caps), market-rate, non-affordable housing... is somehow a negative, makes you singularly unqualified for the higher office and public trust, to which you aspire. It is already hard enough to get investors, with there own money, to build in the hood. Who needs, or can afford, your petty bias at the helm? It is my hope that you do not prevail. Keith ReitmanNearNorth ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Mpls neighborhoods question Vikes stadium haste
On 9/25/02 2:32 PM, Eva Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I recall the faculty are not universally supportive of the University making this stadium a priority - because many faculty feel that it's putting athletics ahead of the U's primary mission. I would agree with that one. I would agree with that as well. However, it has also been argued that bringing Gopher football back to campus would increase athletic department revenues and reduce the need for subsides from the University's general fund. So it's not quite as simple as portrayed above. Let the NFL extend their deadline for the $50,000 contribution towards the stadium. They want it -- they should invest in it. Um, that's $50 million that the NFL would contribute, not $50,000. There's also a real problem if the traffic to stadium events makes it hard for evening and weekend students to get to classes. Um, as a still relatively recent U of MN graduate (class of 1997), I can tell you that weekend classes are nearly nonexistent - especially on Sundays when NFL games are played. And the libraries are far away enough from where the stadium is proposed that I really doubt Viking traffic would pose much interference. And hopefully students would refrain from registering for Saturday classes in the rare instance that one might be offered so they can go Rah, Rah, Rah for Ski-U-Mah! instead. :-) Maybe there might be a problem if the Vikings had a game scheduled for Monday Night Football, but that might happen once or twice a season at most. Students who had weeknight classes were usually disrupted more by Gopher basketball or hockey games until Parking and Transportation Services came up with a placard that students could register to get for their car to prove they were on campus for class and not a sporting event so they wouldn't get charged the event parking rates. I agree, however, with some of the points of Mr. Mosedale's article. The timeline for working out all these details is pretty skimpy, especially since I've yet to see the Vikings adequately explain why renovating the Dome would not solve their revenue concerns. Unlike the Twins, who have been losing money for years, the Vikings have been making a profit - apparently just not enough of one to satisfy Mr. McCombs. I'm all in favor of bringing the Gophers back to campus where they belong and if any football stadium is built, that should be the primary focus. If the Vikings want to be a part of that, fine, but any demands they have should be secondary to the wishes of the University. Mark Snyder Windom Park (59A) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Roosevelt Library and Mixed Use
On 9/26/02 8:38 PM, Becker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip I was also thinking about the Roosevelt Library proposal and how there is a proposal to make it part of a mixed use development. How the Library would sit there, next to the laundry mat and maybe a McDonald's and someone's groceries waiting to go up to their apartment. And how this really cheapened the meaning of what a library is. The Library isn't simply a Barnes and Noble, another store to meet your daily needs, a warehouse of books. A Library is a place where democracy happens. A Library is a place where everyone is equal, everyone is welcome, a place that provides knowledge and support for everyone. It is a tie from our past to our future, a place of permanence and strength in our community. It reflects our values. It is a place that defines who we are and who we will be. I agree that a library is something noble and should be respected. I disagree that having a library as part of a mixed used development automatically demands that it would be cheapened. Who says the development has to include something like a McD's or a Laundromat? Why couldn't there be something cool like a café or coffee shop that only sells fair trade coffee to raise awareness of how most commercial coffee producers exploit the land and the farmers? Or something like the Seven Bridges World Market (http://www.sevenbridgesworldmarket.com/) to promote exposure to other cultures? snip A library in a mixed use development will never be a landmark, will never provide identity, and ultimately cheapens what a library should be for our community. I would hope the Library Board and the City would consider building a landmark rather than a retail outlet for the Roosevelt Library and I would hope the community accepts nothing less. I would hope the community insists on high standards for the Roosevelt library design and any mixed use development - however, I would also hope the community would be open-minded enough to actually consider and evaluate design proposals before rejecting them outright. Isn't it possible that creative ideas for mixed use development might draw people to the library who might not visit otherwise? Wouldn't that be a good thing? Mark Snyder Windom Park (59A) [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
Re: [Mpls] Kids, Trains, Freeways,
In answer to Pamela's challenge there is one thing that ranks higher than anything else. It cost nothing, yet it was satisfying, and incredibly titillating with just enough danger to make it irresistible to any kid. It was stealing watermelons! Now I know we do not have any of these in Minnesota, so you have to be imaginative. Guess what we have that is almost as good a thing, and it is the perfect season for it. (I imagined this while driving by a pumpkin field about a week ago). Stealing pumpkins! Driving by at just about sundown made me remember the excitement when you crawled down the row and took them from just under the window of a farmer with a shotgun. There is nothing to equal the adrenalin when a shotgun goes off and you didn't get hit. Gives you a whole new appreciation of athletics and running. Carl Lewis would choke to death in the dust left behind me, if he lived thru the flying dirt clods. Afterwards every thing tastes better, feels better and you just feel totally alive, CAUSE YOU ARE. It also gives you incredible stories to share years later with your siblings who may be along on the nefarious raid. I know most of us try to teach our children that such things are wrong and to not go in harms way, but if you asked an imaginative child I bet that child, (after a little imagining), would agree with me. Pamela's post just got the little devil working again. So I hope no children are reading this. But if they are, just north of the City in Anoka County there are some pretty good fields, and just south of the river I spotted another one. So you kids with cars remember, keep your head down, wear dark clothes, never ever look directly at a farmer (your eyes and face shine even in moonlight), when the farmer starts shooting RUN, (even if he is not shooting at you), and if caught remember you were just taking a walk when that fool with the shotgun showed up. Remember kids, stealing watermelons or pumpkins is like hunting, and you need to be ethical. Never take more than you can use, do not be destructive to the environment or the farmers produce, shut all gates you go through. This last keeps the farmers from using something worse than a shotgun with light birdshot. MOST IMPORTANT - Never ever relate stories about being shot at around your mother. (Mothers just do not have perspective about such things) Teach children such ethics; it will stick with them thru life. It did me, though I don't think Mama ever knew. Jim Graham, Ventura Village - and once upon a night a lurker in the hot moonlit fields of Tomato Bottom. ___ Minneapolis Issues Forum - A Civil City Civic Discussion - Mn E-Democracy Post messages to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscribe, Unsubscribe, Digest option, and more: http://e-democracy.org/mpls
