White racism is never having to say you're sorry.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The lack of empathy on this list for the family who attended Market
Bar-B-Que, and the urge to rationalize and otherwise excuse the behavior of the
people
who served
Britt says: Finally, those who profess to want to know the whole story
before drawing
any conclusions should hope for a lawsuit.
Peter says: This goes for our city as well as Market Bar-B-Que. Now
that our current Mayor and City Council gutted the Civilian Review
Authority, directing
Peter writes:
Being a white racist in Minnesota means never having to say you're sorry
because you can always call people in the South racist.
Peter SchmitzCARAG
I could just as glibly say being a guilt-ridden white person in Minnesota
means never having to prove your case.
David Shove wrote (and Peter Schmitz echoed):
White racism is never having to say you're sorry.
--David Shove
Roseville
On Fri, 11 Jul 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The lack of empathy on this list for the family who attended Market
Bar-B-Que, and the urge to rationalize and otherwise
Peter writes: Being a white racist in Minnesota means never having to say
you're sorry because you can always call people in the South racist.
David responds:I could just as glibly say being a guilt-ridden white
person in Minnesota means never having to prove your case. Both my
statement
For the record, my post never accused Mr. Johnson of being a racist, which I define as discriminating against people on the basis of race. I did write that anyone who suggests that the patrons mistreated at the restaurant by the waitress and the manager should have taken their concerns to the
Members:
Please try to stick to issues/arguments in your posts on this discussion
thread. Other members should not become the topic of debate - gets personal
very quickly, which is a rules violation.
If you feel someone has done you a personal wrong, email them offlist or
email me and I'll deal
Peter Writes:
One last note: When I was growing up in Omaha, Nebraska during the 60s and
70s my parents, teachers and other grownups around me clucked their tongues
in disbelief at George Wallace and those nasty racists down South who
supported him. Imagine their surprise when our city, like
Britt Robson wrote:
It wasn't a single waitress who disrespected them;
the next person up on the hierarchical chain likewise
treated these paying customers in a manner calculated
to ensure they wouldn't return. Does anyone doubt this
happened? On what basis?
On the basis that I am a rational
Sorry about that, I forgot to sign my post.
Dennis Plante
Jordan
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1. Don't feed the troll! Ignore obvious
I agree w/Jon and find it hard to believe that Market BBQ hasn't served a
myriad of people of color over the years. Sounds like this is an isolated
incident, and suggesting people take their complaints to the courthouse
instead of the manager is a bit much. If you don't like the service or food
You are saying the Market management made a
calculated efforts to treat these people differently
because of the color of their skin, based on one
anecdotal report with no corroborating witnesses and
without hearing from the Market management?
While I am not going to comment on whether or not a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Keith says; This dismissive, ad hominem, gratuitous, and unsubstantiated
attack on the conduct of the Mpls. Police departments patrolmen mocks the rest of
the posters message. He asks for proof of the family's allegations against the
waitperson and manager. Yet he
In a message dated 7/11/03 4:22:28 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
The poster doesn't even bother with unsubstantiated attacks on me -- he
goes right for the insults and pretends to know what I was thinking. I
said nothing about proof of the allegations -- saying I
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Keith says; I Regret my stridency in my last post. To the degree I
misunderstood Mr. Johnson, that compounds my error.
Keith Reitman NearNorth
I likewise apologize for any stridency in my message.
Chris Johnson
Fulton
TEMPORARY REMINDER:
1. Don't feed the troll!
The lack of empathy on this list for the family who attended Market Bar-B-Que, and the urge to rationalize and otherwise excuse the behavior of the people who "served" them, is appalling. These people are not lodging their complaint anonymously; they signed their name to their post. They obviously
In a message dated 7/11/03 5:10:36 PM Central Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
The lack of empathy on this list for the family who attended Market
Bar-B-Que, and the urge to rationalize and otherwise excuse the behavior of
the people
who served them, is appalling.
Jon Sez:
In a message dated 7/10/03 7:04:30 AM Pacific Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Where is the evidence that Market BBQ, as a company, is at fault?
---SNIP
If this family hasn't even tried to get satisfaction from the owners,
then I can in no way support a boycott. Just because 1
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