[Mpls] Lagoon Project compromise

2005-07-01 Thread David Brauer
The controversial Uptown Project sounds like it will be eight stories (9 by the city's counting), not the original 12 (13), according to today's Council vote. The condo building will drop from 148 feet to 112 feet high. Voting no: Ostrow, Zerby, Goodman and Lane. Rybak said the council

Re: [Mpls] Lagoon Project compromise

2005-07-01 Thread Anne McC
D.B. says; I should note that my prediction from the git-go was the developers would propose 12 as a way to get 8 in an area zoned for 4. That's how to bargain and compromise, something our legislators could learn how to do. Anne McCandless Jordan REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the

Re: [Mpls] Lagoon Project and Other Uptown Developments

2005-06-28 Thread Chris Johnson
I want to apologize to the forum readers and real estate developers in general for some of the coarse language I used in describing them in my posting about the Lagoon project. I'm sorry. It was late and I was suffering a bad headache, so I will plead that I wasn't thinking straight, by the

Re: [Mpls] Lagoon Project and Other Uptown Developments

2005-06-28 Thread David Greene
Chris Johnson wrote: In the former vein, there is David Greene's statement: We have a million more people moving into the area over the next 25 years and they have to live _somewhere_. Wow. It sounds like darn near a crisis, and gosh, well, many of those million people will need to live in

Re: [Mpls] Lagoon Project and Other Uptown Developments

2005-06-28 Thread Chris Johnson
David Greene wrote: Chris Johnson wrote: In the former vein, there is David Greene's statement: We have a million more people moving into the area over the next 25 years and they have to live _somewhere_. Wow. It sounds like darn near a crisis, and gosh, well, many of those million

Re: [Mpls] Lagoon Project and Other Uptown Developments

2005-06-28 Thread David Greene
Chris Johnson wrote: This is a question of urban planning. Do we really want to increase the already excessive land area of the metro? It is extremely expensive to run services (bus, sewers, etc.) out into the exurbs. Our metro area is going to be in for a major change over the next

[Mpls] Lagoon Project and Other Uptown Developments

2005-06-27 Thread Gary Farland
Several Forum writers, not of our area, are adamant that the developers in the Uptown area should not be constrained in any way. However, this is clearly a case of developer profit vs.. the public good. A 13 story building and other developments that far exceed the zoning heights are great

RE: [Mpls] Lagoon Project and Other Uptown Developments

2005-06-27 Thread David Brauer
Just playing devil's advocate here...given my previous general opinions on area traffic. Gary Farland writes: A 13 story building and other developments that far exceed the zoning heights are great for developers, in that they can sell lake views. But, in the process the rest of us have to

Re: [Mpls] Lagoon Project and Other Uptown Developments

2005-06-27 Thread Chris Johnson
There seems to be a lot of myopia and mischaracterization going around with the so-called Lagoon Project. I think most people are missing the bigger picture, although I do think Mr. Goldman and Mr. Zuckman probably have a grasp on the big picture but are not yet articulating it. First,

[Mpls] Lagoon Project

2005-06-27 Thread Nick Frank
The city zoning map (www.municode.com) says the property at 1320 is zoned C3A. That allows for one unit per 400 sq foot as part of mixed use building. The site is 2.8 acres according to a Skyway news article, at 43,560 square feet per acre that yields 121,968 square feet. This would

[Mpls] Lagoon project: 10 stories after all?

2005-06-26 Thread List Manager
Strib's Dan Mitchell writes: Council member Gary Schiff indicated during the commission meeting that a 10-story tower might be acceptable. [Developer Stuart] Ackerberg said he will probably come back with just such a proposal. To make it work, he said, he might have to drastically reduce the

[Mpls] Lagoon project

2005-06-26 Thread Harvey Zuckman
David Brauer asks: Question for opponents: how do you feel about 10 floors versus 13? Is that a magic number? My opposition to this project is not specifically about this particular development. There is not magic number. VISION-There needs to be some very serious discussion about the future of

Re: [Mpls] Lagoon Project (Uptown)

2005-06-05 Thread md
Anyone know what the fate of the original Walker library will be as this project goes forward? The concept drawings in the Southwest Journal seem to show the condos right where the (former) library is... Madeline Douglass Kingfield REMINDERS: 1. Be civil! Please read the NEW RULES at

RE: [Mpls] Lagoon Project (Uptown)

2005-06-05 Thread David Brauer
MD asks: Anyone know what the fate of the original Walker library will be as this project goes forward? The concept drawings in the Southwest Journal seem to show the condos right where the (former) library is... The old Walker Library is not touched. The condos rise behind the Library, if

Re: [Mpls] Lagoon Project (Uptown)

2005-06-04 Thread David A. Greene
Nathan Hunstad wrote: I'm not absolutely pro-development, but this development makes sense in a lot of ways. Fearing change because it's change will not allow our neighborhoods and city to mature. I agree with Nathan and Nick, especiallyu about the horrible waste of space caused by the

[Mpls] Lagoon Project (Uptown)

2005-06-03 Thread Tom Madden
...From the SW Journal Story (as forwarded by D. Brauer) Lagoon Project moves on up Planning Commission opts for Uptown height, density as neighborhoods split on condo/retail complex between the Greenway and Lagoon Ave. near Hennepin. http://www.swjournal.com/articles/2005/06/03/news/news01.txt

[Mpls] Lagoon Project (Uptown)

2005-06-03 Thread Nick Frank
Pros: The project would do a lot to further justify transit in the Greenway. It would also really help other local business, which I would expect would create some new jobs. At $75 million it would help build the taxbase or ease pressure on existing properties. An overall increase in housing

[Mpls] Lagoon Project (Uptown)

2005-06-03 Thread Nathan Hunstad
I live near this project, and given the details I know so far, I have absolutely no problem with it. Development is going to happen. That's a simple reality. Either it can happen in the far-flung 'burbs, like Chanhassen or Blaine, where there is no hope for much transit and more highways will