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Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 15:29:59 +
Subject: Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
I've had this conversation multiple times with multiple organizations:
Me: "Hey, I see you aren't pushing these 5 pa
update.
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 7:08 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
Security updates will be next
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disasterous way
This is an add-on to Premier. You need Premier, then you can buy automatic
escalation to Level 3 support at Premier on a subscription basis. I don’t know
how they break it down exactly
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 7:58 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: AW: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
disasterous way
That’s premier you’re talking about
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 2:19 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
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disasterous way
I used to do that, then budget cuts. Certainly worth the money. Not
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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2016 3:19 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: Re: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
disasterous way
I used to do that, then
: Monday, August 22, 2016 3:19 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
disasterous way
I used to do that, then budget cuts. Certainly worth the money. Not everyone
can do it though, they have to review your cases and a certain
;
> He's right John
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> Begin forwarded message:
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> From: Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch
> >>
> Date: 20 August 2016 at 17:04:16 IST
> To: mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>>
> Subject: AW: [mssms] Micro
He's right John
Sent from my iPhone
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From: Roland Janus mailto:roland.ja...@hispeed.ch>>
Date: 20 August 2016 at 17:04:16 IST
To: mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>>
Subject: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im
Auftrag von Steve Whitcher
Gesendet: Samstag, 20. August 2016 21:19
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
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way
We don't. At least back when we had a technet subscri
We don't. At least back when we had a technet subscription we got a couple
of free incidents, but since they killed that off opening a support
incident is a $500 decision. Last time, I figured out the issue pretty much
on my own before support called back, but we had already paid the $500, so
I let
@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
Thanks Michael!
Just one question, these roll-ups for Windows 7, do those go all the way back
post-SP1, post April Cumulative Update, or do they start in October and move
forward?
Thanks again!
On Thu
well by Friday what
breaks what.
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of Daniel Ratliff
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 1:49 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
“My
, August 18, 2016 1:10 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
I switched to deploying "Everything" a few years ago when I took over the
updates. Previously they only deployed the critical security update
ssms@lists.myitforum.com
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way
I switched to deploying "Everything" a few years ago when I took over the
updates. Previously they only deployed the critical security updates. We were
continually having h
tsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com>
] Im Auftrag von Aday, Karalene B (RCIS)
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. August 2016 22:13
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>
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ither way.
>>
>>
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>> Thanks,
>>
>> -Michael
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf
>> orum.com] *On Behalf Of *Aday, Karalene B (RCIS)
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2016 1:13 PM
>>
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hat when you find the issues,
> you call Microsoft support and work with us to find a solution as quickly
> as possible.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Michael
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Ed Aldrich
>
> Thanks,
>
> -Michael
>
>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Aday, Karalene B (RCIS)
> *Sent:* Wednesday, August 17, 2016 1:13 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change W
sadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *Im Auftrag von *Aday, Karalene B (RCIS)
> *Gesendet:* Mittwoch, 17. August 2016 22:13
> *An:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Betreff:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
> disasterous way
>
>
>
> Excuse me if I didn’t u
.
Thanks,
-Michael
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of Ed Aldrich
Sent: Thursday, August 18, 2016 7:16 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
Great thread with a lot
: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
Looking at what showed up yesterday:
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(We don’t have that many clients yet, hence only 95)
The “none” is the severity which makes this even more nuts.
One week after patch Tuesday new
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of Wolf, Daniel
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 3:42 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
Why are you declining the updates? If you only want to release updates on Patch
, Karalene B (RCIS)
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 3:13 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
Excuse me if I didn’t use the correct terminology. When “additional updates”
are released it impacts us greatly. We alsways
KB3170455 -- was RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to
change Windows patching in a disasterous way
There is a hotfix to correct the problems with point-and-print introduced
with KB3170455. The hotfix is currently not available publicly. The hotfix
was submitted one day after the deadline to be
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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] Im Auftrag von Michael Niehaus
Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. August 2016 18:41
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
Each update (MSU/CAB) has to be ins
[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of Michael Niehaus
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 3:47 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
From a Windows perspective, we routinely release non-security patches on
s
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 2:16 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
Just curious, what 52 are you referring to?
We routinely release additional updates throughout the month. It
crosoft Knowledge
Base article for more information. After you install this item, you may have to
restart your computer.
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 3:36 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Sub
@lists.myitforum.com
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way
Excuse me if I didn’t use the correct terminology. When “additional updates”
are released it impacts us greatly. We alsways decline them and then approve
them with all the other monthly patches. There are
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
Just curious, what 52 are you referring to?
We routinely release additional updates throughout the month. It’s very rare
to have an out-of-band security update though, those are typically only on
Patch Tuesday
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
I would also like to know how they are going to handle all of the out of band
updates they release each month. We pulled 52 out of bands last night and I’m
sure with their pattern that’s not the end of them for
>>
>> *Von:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.myitf
>> orum.com] *Im Auftrag von *Michael Niehaus
>> *Gesendet:* Dienstag, 16. August 2016 18:41
>> *An:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
>> *Betreff:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching i
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com ] *On Behalf Of *Mawdsley R.
> *Sent:* den 16 augusti 2016 14:16
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
> disasterous way
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...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of Roland Janus
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 1:42 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
Yeap, new updates just showed up, messing with my monthly
Auftrag von Aday, Karalene B (RCIS)
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 17. August 2016 17:01
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
I would also like to know how they are going to handle all of the out of band
updates they release each
, 16. August 2016 18:41
An: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Betreff: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
disasterous way
Each update (MSU/CAB) has to be installed in its entirety.
If you encounter any issues with an update, contact Microsoft Support right
away. They are ser
: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of Todd Hemsell
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:57 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
Less work for them.
Here is the fix, use it or
ednesday, August 17, 2016 8:06 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
> disasterous way
>
>
>
> Fair point
>
>
>
> On 17 Aug 2016, at 12:52, Steve Whitcher wrote:
>
>
>
> To be fair, the n
n update, contact Microsoft Support
>> right away. They are serious about resolving issues as quickly as possible.
>>
>> Certainly the reasoning for making this change is simple:
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>> -Michael
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>> *
; Thanks,
> -Michael
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ]*On
> Behalf Of *Andreas Hammarskjöld
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 5:38 AM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set t
Of *Andreas Hammarskjöld
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 12:03 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
> disasterous way
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>
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> Agree to everything you say Cynthia. It’s called being agile. J I can
> total
e to be up and running 24/7.
>
>
>
> *Cynthia Erno*
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>
>
> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Michael Niehaus
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 12:41 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Micro
ssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
> disasterous way
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>
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> Hey, it makes MS more profitable, that is all that matters,.
>
>
>
> Same with the forced advertising in a corporate OS you pay millions for
>
> Same
Stuart Watret
Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2016 8:06 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
Fair point
On 17 Aug 2016, at 12:52, Steve Whitcher
mailto:st...@whitcher.org>> wrote:
To be fair, the new model is still of
listsad...@lists.myitforum.com]On Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 5:38 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
I thought this was possible? Like WUSA /u /kb:bla
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> listsad...@lists.myitforum.com ]*On
> Behalf Of *Michael Niehaus
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 12:41 PM
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
> disasterous way
>
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> *ATTE
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Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
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ATTENTION: This email came from an external source. Do not open attachments or
click on links from unknown senders or unexpected emails.
Each update (MSU/CAB) has to be installed in its entirety.
If you en
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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Erno, Cynthia M (ITS)
Sent: den 16 augusti 2016 19:22
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a di
Very well said Cynthia!
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of Erno, Cynthia M (ITS)
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 12:22 PM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
lto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 5:38 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
I thought this was possible? Like WUSA /u /kb:blabl
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Subject: AW: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
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> Todd
> *Gesendet:* Montag, 15. August 2016 22:42
> *An:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Betreff:* [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
> disasterous way
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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of John Aubrey
Sent: 16 August 2016 12:55
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com<mailto:mssms@lists.myitforum.com>
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disaste
y.
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> Rich Mawdsley
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> *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *John Aubrey
> *Sent:* 16 August 2016 12:55
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows
...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of John Aubrey
Sent: 16 August 2016 12:55
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
I was little uneasy about Windows 10 CU/UR whatever they call it. It's
to:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of Marable, Mike
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:31 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
I totally agree. In fact yesterday we had to pull off a security update
because it "bro
tsadmin@lists.
> myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Andreas Hammarskjöld
> *Sent:* Tuesday, August 16, 2016 2:54 AM
>
> *To:* mssms@lists.myitforum.com
> *Subject:* RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a
> disasterous way
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> This is very understa
sad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of Andreas Hammarskjöld
Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 2:54 AM
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
This is very understandable and typicaly the way of "as-a-service" solutio
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Behalf Of Murray, Mike
Sent: den 16 augusti 2016 01:29
To: mssms@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [mssms] Microsoft set to change Windows patching in a disasterous
way
I've been told "get used to it" on the patch management list. Not good enough.
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If they include such updates, like 3170455 which we also excluded, that's
certainly going the mess up things..
Von: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com <mailto:listsad...@lists.myitfor
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https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/08/15/further-simplify
ing-servicing-model-for-windows-7-and-windows-8-1/
Wow, this could be a disaster.
We have had 4 or 5 cases in the last 12 months
https://blogs.technet.microsoft.com/windowsitpro/2016/08/15/further-simplifying-servicing-model-for-windows-7-and-windows-8-1/
Wow, this could be a disaster.
We have had 4 or 5 cases in the last 12 months where we have had to delay the
installation of a security update so that applications could
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