Re: [MSX] msx.org is blocking brazilian accesses
Good morning, I am sorry if you have missunderstood my message. I was just saying that I connect to I-Net using Telefonica and I do not have any problems. I can perfectly view and connect to MRC. I am not insinuating anything, but thank you for thinking always in the worst case. Please read again my message: I was plainly saying I USE TELEFONICA - IT WORKS FINE FOR ME. Nothing more, nothing less. I was just adding some more information to the list, because I do not know if Telefonica is responsible or not. Really, my technical skills do not arrive that far. Anyway, Sander, thank you for your confidence. I think that MRC forums are enough to insult me, please do not continue this. Edward Robsy Good morning, And I connect from Spain but using Telefonica and I can view perfectly the pages. I don't think Telefonica routes your internet connection from Spain to Brazil to the Netherlands. Do you? When the Vodafone network in the Netherlands is down, you can probably still call in, from and to other countries. That doesn't mean Vodafone doesn't have a problem. So the problem is not related with Telefonica. Try to solve it: the brazilian MSX community is one of the biggest in the world. What are you trying to insinuate, Robsy? That we are deliberately blocking access to our website from all South American counters??? WHY??? Or are you implying that we are not doing the best we can to solve this problem as quickly as possible? This isn't the first time that you are insinuating something about the MSX Resource Center that's absolutely not true (what was it again, being only in it for the money? Pah!). Let it go, Robsy. The contents of our website speak for themselves. We are there for the MSX users, for ALL MSX USERS. There is a reason why we change webhosts that often: we want our website to be fast and available to everybody. If there is a problem, inform us about it and we will see what we can do about it. 24 hours ago, we were not even aware of this problem. Just because no one bothered to inform us about it. The first ones who did (Flyguille and Ricardo Bittencourt) were very kind and co-operative, but somehow some people rather like to start posting conspiracy theories. I really don't see why some people are instantly making these kind of insinuations. Maybe you can explain. As you can read the MRC, have a look here: http://www.msx.org/forumtopicl3017.html To all people who can not reach MRC at the moment: we are working on it, but it takes some time. You could try and use a free proxyserver to reach the MRC. Hang in there, we will back as soon as possible. (As usual :P) Sander 'sorry, really annoyed' Zuidema. ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx _ Horóscopo, tarot, numerología... Escucha lo que te dicen los astros. http://astrocentro.msn.es/ ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] msx.org is blocking brazilian accesses
Edward Robsy wrote: Please read again my message: I was plainly saying I USE TELEFONICA - IT WORKS FINE FOR ME. Nothing more, nothing less. You said So the problem is not related with Telefonica., which is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from works fine for me. Also saying try to solve it implies that you think MRC is not already trying to do that. Note that I am not saying that you wrote your email with insinuations on purpose, I'm just saying that the mail you wrote can easily be understood as an insinuating one. If you didn't mean it that way, you might want to work on changing that. (And yes I know english is not your native language, neither is it mine. People misunderstand me all the time too, I live with it.) Anyway, Sander, thank you for your confidence. I think that MRC forums are enough to insult me, please do not continue this. Good going Robsy, put yourself in the victim position again! So now you're saying Sander is insulting you? A simple I'm sorry if my mail was understood in that way, I did not mean it like that. would have sufficed. In stead you write a counter-attack with false claims... It sounds like you're trying to give MRC a bad name. If all of this is again a misunderstanding, just say so, and don't counter-attack. That's how wars get started :( Greetz, Patriek ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] msx.org is blocking brazilian accesses
Please calm down people, we all love MSX here ;) Laurent - Original Message - From: Patriek Lesparre [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 04, 2004 2:10 PM Subject: Re: [MSX] msx.org is blocking brazilian accesses Edward Robsy wrote: Please read again my message: I was plainly saying I USE TELEFONICA - IT WORKS FINE FOR ME. Nothing more, nothing less. You said So the problem is not related with Telefonica., which is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from works fine for me. Also saying try to solve it implies that you think MRC is not already trying to do that. Note that I am not saying that you wrote your email with insinuations on purpose, I'm just saying that the mail you wrote can easily be understood as an insinuating one. If you didn't mean it that way, you might want to work on changing that. (And yes I know english is not your native language, neither is it mine. People misunderstand me all the time too, I live with it.) Anyway, Sander, thank you for your confidence. I think that MRC forums are enough to insult me, please do not continue this. Good going Robsy, put yourself in the victim position again! So now you're saying Sander is insulting you? A simple I'm sorry if my mail was understood in that way, I did not mean it like that. would have sufficed. In stead you write a counter-attack with false claims... It sounds like you're trying to give MRC a bad name. If all of this is again a misunderstanding, just say so, and don't counter-attack. That's how wars get started :( Greetz, Patriek ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] msx.org is blocking brazilian accesses
Sander Zuidema and Bart Schouten, Since this thread started by the message I sent, I believe that I owe you a explanation. As I respect your hard work on the msx.org, I would like to let very clear that by no means I tried to insinuate that you were purposedly blocking the brazilian IP range. My goal was just to report the problem and since I coundn't reach the msx.org website to get your e-mail contact, I e-mailed the message to the MSX mailing list. If it sounded like insinuating something like agressive blocking, please accept my apologies for not expressing myself properly. My first tought was that it was a DNS problem, but after some days offline I believed that some misconfiguration could be happended on your migration process. I worked at an ISP once and know that this things may happen, since there are lots of variables involved: DNS servers, dynamic routing, firewalls, etc. Just only one piece of this mess working badly and all your work is offline. At last, I can assure you that I and many others are anxiously awaiting for the msx.org return (from our point of view ;). It would be very sad to loose your contribution to the MSX community as was when we lost the excelent resource www.msxhans.msx2.com by Hans Otten. And please forget those who are thinking about conspiracy theories. I will deal with them (at least the brazilian ones) in Jau, later this year. I'll take my LART with me and have some serious word with them.;) Best regards and keep up the good work! :) Fábio R. Schmidlin - aka FRS __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Small Business $15K Web Design Giveaway http://promotions.yahoo.com/design_giveaway/ ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] msx.org is blocking brazilian accesses
It would be very sad to loose your contribution to the MSX community as was when we lost the excelent resource www.msxhans.msx2.com by Hans Otten. It's not lost, you can visit that page at http://hanso.msx.nu/ Greetz, Patriek ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
[MSX] MSX.org not accessible 4 Brazilian MSX-freaks
Hi lads, I've been out for a while (too many emails to be read), then I've tried to go to msx.org, to read news. But I couldn't, I haven't got the site (my browser told me that the URL must be wrong). Any problems? I've got a timeout here in my Linuxbox (using Squid as proxy, and Firefox as Web browser). Some friends of mine got an forbidden page when they tried with IE. So, anyone knows why Brazilian MSX-freaks can't access the MSX Resource Center? Many people reported the same problem at MSXBR-L. Thankx in advance, ByE! -- Ricardo Jurczyk Pinheiro -=- M. Sc. Numerical Modelling -=- [EMAIL PROTECTED] ABUB, MSX, Linux, Gospel, Rock - ICQ: 3635907 - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sola Scriptura -- Sola Gratia -- Sola Fide -- Solo Christi -- Soli Deo Gloria I'm ok, it's the world that's screwed up. ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] msx.org is blocking brazilian accesses
Hey people.. I've had a very tough day (a very tough week, actually), being on the road from 7.00 to right about now. I'm sorry for my heated e-mail this morning. I hope you can understand that (and why) I was a little frustrated this morning, after discovering the problem yesterday and not being able to fix things instantly. I apologize for any conclusions I drew too quickly. It was not my intention to insult or offend anyone. Now it's time for some coffee and a new attempt at finding and solving the problem. Thanks for worrying so much about the MRC, it shows you care about the site as much as we do! :) MSX forever! Sander ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
RE: [MSX] msx.org is blocking brazilian accesses
I had almost the same problem until www.msx.org was recently moved to another server. My problem was that when I tried to open msx.org in my browser (IE with Windows XP) it found the Server but then stopped there, waiting for the page to start downloading. I tried different connections, different DNSs, etc but always ended in the same situation. I live in Spain but I didn't connect by Telefonica. Some friends of mine using Telefonica didn't had this problem. I hope this helps! --- Marc Vallribera Ros '2004 --- -Mensaje original- De: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] En nombre de FRS Enviado el: sábado, 03 de abril de 2004 19:10 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: [MSX] msx.org is blocking brazilian accesses Hello all, Does anyone know why is MRCF (aka msx.org) blocking accesses from the brazilian IP range since tuesday (30/01)? Probably it's some kind of misconfiguration, so it's better to check the servers.:) Regards, FRS ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
Re: [MSX] MSX.org not accessible 4 Brazilian MSX-freaks
Ricardo Jurczyk Pinheiro wrote: I've been out for a while (too many emails to be read), then I've tried to go to msx.org, to read news. But I couldn't, I haven't got the site (my browser told me that the URL must be wrong). Any problems? I've got a timeout here in my Linuxbox (using Squid as proxy, and Firefox as Web browser). Some friends of mine got an forbidden page when they tried with IE. So, anyone knows why Brazilian MSX-freaks can't access the MSX Resource Center? Many people reported the same problem at MSXBR-L. Flyguille (Argentinia) also has the same problem. Accessing msx.org by the IP I looked up for him didn't work either. I don't think he was able to nslookup www.msx.org (which would indicate a DNS problem, and a pretty big one! Fly mentioned something about a missed DNS server register message or something... dunno how these things work and propagate exactly), but I'm not sure. If this were the case however, it definately seems like a problem caused by the recent server change (though with a delayed effect... maybe until now they were still seeing the old msx.org server, which got disabled now??). ~Grauw -- Ushiko-san! Kimi wa doushite, Ushiko-san!! ___ MSX mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Info page: http://lists.stack.nl/mailman/listinfo/msx
