Re: [music-dsp] google's non-sine

2012-02-25 Thread Richard Dobson
On 25/02/2012 09:40, Andy Farnell wrote: .. On the subject of creating worlds, I've missed this conversation entirely because of a courageous attempt to degooglify my life great word! I wonder though if it should be more like degooglise, as you are changing or reducing state, rather than

Re: [music-dsp] google's non-sine

2012-02-25 Thread douglas repetto
Of course, I know I'm being didactic, creative design is great and I'm 100% in favor of doing things wrong. I just thought doing a wacky sinewave animation would have been more interesting than doing a wacky non-sinewave animation. Maybe I've just seen too many non-sines drawn by students

Re: [music-dsp] music-dsp Digest, Vol 98, Issue 66

2012-02-25 Thread Theo Verelst
douglas repetto wrote Sat Feb 25 08:21:23 EST 2012: non-sinewave animation. Maybe I've just seen too many non-sines drawn by students who aren't being creative, they just don't get the difference (yet!) between two half-circles and a sinewave. Serious engineering students (who else wouldbe

Re: [music-dsp] Boulez

2012-02-25 Thread Charles Turner
On Feb 25, 2012, at 6:34 AM, Andy Farnell wrote: And whereas I do agree with Pierre Boulez here, maybe it is misguided to turn to reductionism and simplicity for their own sake. It may be equally hopeless to embark on a quest for authenticity this way. Hi Andy- I should apologize for

Re: [music-dsp] Boulez

2012-02-25 Thread Adam Puckett
Would it be possible to design a callback that dynamically filled the buffer as it was being called, or if the buffer didn't exist, create it and put one sample in it? that way there wouldn't be any dropped calls in the process. Or am I missing something? On 2/25/12, Charles Turner

Re: [music-dsp] google's non-sine

2012-02-25 Thread douglas repetto
On 2/25/12 8:43 AM, Theo Verelst wrote: douglas repetto wrote Sat Feb 25 08:21:23 EST 2012: non-sinewave animation. Maybe I've just seen too many non-sines drawn by students who aren't being creative, they just don't get the difference (yet!) between two half-circles and a sinewave.

Re: [music-dsp] google's non-sine

2012-02-25 Thread Adam Puckett
I rather enjoy math and programming. That's why I read Csound opcodes in source form. On 2/25/12, Theo Verelst theo...@tiscali.nl wrote: douglas repetto douglas wrote Sat Feb 25 12:07:19 EST 2012: Sorry for wasting bandwidth! I'll be darned if I'd have to call a serious discussion a waste of

[music-dsp] test

2012-02-25 Thread Brad Garton
sorry... posts not going through for some reason. brad http://music.columbia.edu/~brad -- dupswapdrop -- the music-dsp mailing list and website: subscription info, FAQ, source code archive, list archive, book reviews, dsp links http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp

[music-dsp] list postings

2012-02-25 Thread Brad Garton
Hey music-dsp-ers -- Has anyone else experienced troubles getting posts to show up on our list? I've sent (and re-sent) several this morning and they just vanished. I've checked with douglas about it, but was wondering if anyone else has had problems. brad http://music.columbia.edu/~brad

Re: [music-dsp] list postings

2012-02-25 Thread douglas repetto
I wonder if your ISP is eating them somehow. Usually when posts don't go through a bounce message is generated. BTW, several people have had trouble posting recently because they were sending HTML mail to the list. Please remember that you can only send plaintext and no attachments. best,

Re: [music-dsp] list postings

2012-02-25 Thread Brad Garton
Ok, my default Apple mail was set to rich text format in my preferences (not HTML, which I know is a no-no). With that as default, somehow some postings go through but others don't (and no, I wasn't doing any fancy italics or nothin'). I switched my default to plain text and it seems to work

Re: [music-dsp] list postings

2012-02-25 Thread Nigel Redmon
I've had problems in the past when html-style font tags make their way into the email. For instance, this happens in Apple's Mail.app. Even though it's not an html email, per se, they sometimes get rejected (but not always). If I do Make Plain Text from the Format menu before sedning, then they

Re: [music-dsp] list postings

2012-02-25 Thread douglas repetto
It may be that Apple is adding something to the header indicating rich text/html even though you don't end up with offending characters in the email. The list software rejects email based on the headers, not on the actual content. There's no fundamental reason why the list can't accept html

Re: [music-dsp] list postings

2012-02-25 Thread Bjorn Roche
I've never had an email get through to this list, and I've never gotten a rejection notice, which is sad b/c once or twice I've actually had something constructive to say. (on two occasions, I've just email the original posters) With this email, I am explicitly setting the format to plain, as

Re: [music-dsp] list postings

2012-02-25 Thread douglas repetto
And btw, you should receive a message from the list software with links to the list FAQs, which detail various reasons why your messages might not make it through. http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp/musicdspFAQ.admin.html best, douglas On 2/25/12 2:20 PM, douglas repetto wrote:

Re: [music-dsp] list postings

2012-02-25 Thread Tom Wiltshire
Here's an example of a basic RTF document: {\rtf1\ansi\ansicpg1252\cocoartf1038\cocoasubrtf360 {\fonttbl\f0\fswiss\fcharset0 Helvetica;} {\colortbl;\red255\green255\blue255;} \paperw11900\paperh16840\margl1440\margr1440\vieww9000\viewh8400\viewkind0

Re: [music-dsp] a little about myself

2012-02-25 Thread Bill Schottstaedt
The only language I'm aware of that allows the design of direct sample-massaging code in the language itself is chuck. CLM? Or do I misunderstand something? When I put on my old and battered composer's hat, I'd say the GUI made me do it is not very persuasive. In linguistics, it's known

Re: [music-dsp] list postings

2012-02-25 Thread douglas repetto
Reading rich text email is email client dependent. Modern clients look at the headers and interpret the email accordingly. I guess that's another argument against allowing non-plaintext -- it makes it really difficult to read the list in old school email clients that have no rich text

Re: [music-dsp] list postings

2012-02-25 Thread Bjorn Roche
On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:21 PM, douglas repetto wrote: And btw, you should receive a message from the list software with links to the list FAQs, which detail various reasons why your messages might not make it through. http://music.columbia.edu/cmc/music-dsp/musicdspFAQ.admin.html

Re: [music-dsp] a little about myself

2012-02-25 Thread Brad Garton
On Feb 25, 2012, at 2:23 PM, Bill Schottstaedt wrote: The only language I'm aware of that allows the design of direct sample-massaging code in the language itself is chuck. CLM? Or do I misunderstand something? Aha -- my 'weasel-wording' was aware of. Of course CLM! My awareness ain't

Re: [music-dsp] Boulez

2012-02-25 Thread Emanuel Landeholm
While raw speed does reduce the risk of missing deadlines, you need an infinitely fast computer to guarantee hard realtime performance with code that isn't designed for it. Also, theoretically, not even that helps, unless you also have a realtime OS. And then there's I/O, synchronization and

[music-dsp] guitar physical model

2012-02-25 Thread Adam Puckett
I've seen code for string physical modeling, so I have a (somewhat) good idea of what all is involved in it. However, I haven't seen any code that accounts for frets, as are on a guitar or banjo. How would one go about implementing the fret sounds/gestures like slide, hammer-on/pull-off? Seems to

Re: [music-dsp] Boulez

2012-02-25 Thread douglas repetto
On 2/25/12 9:23 AM, Charles Turner wrote: My point was that the checkpoint raised by callbacks feeding a sample buffer may come from resistances outside the technical world. Boulez sees timbre as the enemy of harmony. Could very well be that the callback is the result of a cultural outlook, and

Re: [music-dsp] Boulez

2012-02-25 Thread David Olofson
On Sunday 26 February 2012, at 01.53.49, Emanuel Landeholm emanuel.landeh...@gmail.com wrote: While raw speed does reduce the risk of missing deadlines, you need an infinitely fast computer to guarantee hard realtime performance with code that isn't designed for it. Also, theoretically, not

Re: [music-dsp] guitar physical model

2012-02-25 Thread Brad Garton
Yikes, I'm just posting up a storm here today. Sorry! You might enjoy some older stuff I did back in 1989 -- 1991: http://music.columbia.edu/~brad/music/mp3/Rough_Raga_Riffs.mp3 http://music.columbia.edu/~brad/music/mp3/Almost_Real.mp3 notes:

Re: [music-dsp] a little about myself

2012-02-25 Thread Ross Bencina
Hi Andy, On 25/02/2012 5:05 AM, Andy Farnell wrote: The problem with plug unit generators languages for me is that they privilege the process (network of unit generators) over the content Some really interesting thoughts here Ross. At what level of granularity does the trade-off of control,

Re: [music-dsp] a little about myself

2012-02-25 Thread Ross Bencina
On 25/02/2012 2:38 PM, Adam Puckett wrote: What is WaveRT? I don't see it in the tarball. WaveRT is a recent WDM-KS driver sub-model that was introduced in Windows Vista. It is the version of WDM-KS that people seem to get excited about as offering the lowest latency and efficiency. I can't

Re: [music-dsp] a little about myself

2012-02-25 Thread Emanuel Landeholm
Yeah, no shit just hit the fan... When you least expect it... On Sun, Feb 26, 2012 at 2:26 AM, robert bristow-johnson r...@audioimagination.com wrote: On 2/20/12 10:28 AM, douglas repetto wrote: Hi Adam, Welcome to the list. It's slow right now, but no doubt it'll flare up again soon!

Re: [music-dsp] a little about myself

2012-02-25 Thread Ross Bencina
On 26/02/2012 6:23 AM, Bill Schottstaedt wrote: In linguistics, it's known as the Great Eskimo Vocabulary Hoax. It's also known as the Sapir-Whorph Hypothesis. There are strong and weak versions of the hypothesis. The whole thing isn't necessarily completely a hoax.

Re: [music-dsp] Boulez

2012-02-25 Thread Emanuel Landeholm
It certainly helps when you can do interesting stuff in suboptimal ways, and still end up using only a few percent of one of your many CPU cores. :-) Actually, this is my routine for determining whether or not I'm living in the future: look up suboptimal in the dictionary. If it isn't there,