Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-20 Thread Brett Coon
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 17:01:42 +0300, =?iso-8859-1?Q?Mikko_H=E4nninen?= wrote: Brett Coon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 2000: 2. The feature I *really* want in a mailtool is the ability to (conveniently) put various attributes on messages, such as "answer within 1 week",

alternates in reverse_alias

2000-06-20 Thread Baurjan Ismagulov
hi, i've searched the archive but couldn't find anything related: most of my correspondents use more than one address to write to me. i want to reverse_alias them so the index looks uniformly. i don't want to setup aliases for each address. is there a way to list them in a single place,

Re: Upgrade oddness

2000-06-20 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2000-06-19 22:20:11 -0400, Chris Conrad wrote: Does anyone have any idea why things broke with the upgrade ? Did you update your configuration files? The pgp interface changed a lot between 1.0 and 1.2.

gpg/mime

2000-06-20 Thread Antoine Martin
Hello, when I forward a mail with mime encapsulation, I get a bad signature if I sign this mail. Any idea ? Antoine

gpg/mime

2000-06-20 Thread Antoine Martin
I forgot something : if the mail is just signed - bad signature if the mail is encrypted/signed - good signature Antoine

Re: gpg/mime

2000-06-20 Thread Thomas Roessler
I'm afraid I can't reproduce this here with PGP. On 2000-06-20 10:40:37 +0200, Antoine Martin wrote: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2000 10:40:37 +0200 From: Antoine Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Mutt Users List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: gpg/mime Mail-Followup-To: Antoine Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED],

Re: Fwd: failure notice

2000-06-20 Thread George Wright
On my home machine I finally got my mutt and qmail working (and messages looking) right by adding the QMAILUSER, QMAILHOST, and QMAILNAME variables to my ~/.bashrc. (Don't forget to EXPORT these variables.) These settings will (AFAIK) override any settings in your ~/.muttrc. Check out more in

Re: Yet another FAQ

2000-06-20 Thread Kai Blin
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 07:49:50PM +0200, Norbert Steinl wrote: If somebody finishes this, I would help to spread it by translating it into German and put it on my realperformance website. Need any help? (Or should I write this in German, too?) Might be, I learn a little bit more about

Mailboxes are not mailboxes

2000-06-20 Thread Dennis Robertson
Hello, Before I give up and retire hurt to netscape can anyone tell me in words of one syllable how to create mailboxes that work. I get the message from mutt that every one of the "mailboxes" I have designated is not a mailbox, even though I can see that procmail has delivered to them. I have

Re: Mailboxes are not mailboxes

2000-06-20 Thread cgreen
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 10:35:39PM +1000, Dennis Robertson wrote: Hello, Before I give up and retire hurt to netscape can anyone tell me in words of one syllable how to create mailboxes that work. I get the message from mutt that every one of the "mailboxes" I have designated is not a

forget pop password

2000-06-20 Thread Baurjan Ismagulov
hi, i have to use two pop servers. i switch between them using macros. i need mutt to forget the pop password. any ideas? thanks in advance, baurjan.

Re: Mailboxes are not mailboxes

2000-06-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Dennis Robertson proclaimed on mutt-users that: Before I give up and retire hurt to netscape can anyone tell me in words of one syllable how to create mailboxes that work. I get the message from mutt that every one of the "mailboxes" I have designated is not a mailbox, even though I can see

Re: alternates in reverse_alias

2000-06-20 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Baurjan Ismagulov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 20 Jun 2000: i've searched the archive but couldn't find anything related: most of my correspondents use more than one address to write to me. i want to reverse_alias them so the index looks uniformly. i don't want to setup aliases for each

Re: forget pop password

2000-06-20 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Baurjan Ismagulov proclaimed on mutt-users that: i have to use two pop servers. i switch between them using macros. i need mutt to forget the pop password. any ideas? Run fetchmail as a daemon to poll the two pop servers rather than using mutt's builtin pop support. -suresh -- Suresh

Re: forget pop password

2000-06-20 Thread Nils Vogels
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 04:05:32PM +0300, Baurjan Ismagulov wrote: hi, i have to use two pop servers. i switch between them using macros. i need mutt to forget the pop password. any ideas? Would it be an idea to use fetchmail for local delivery ? IMHO it's simpler ;) -- How can a

Re: Mailboxes are not mailboxes

2000-06-20 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Hi, Dennis Robertson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 20 Jun 2000: Before I give up and retire hurt to netscape can anyone tell me in words of one syllable how to create mailboxes that work. Save an existing mail message to a non-existing mail folder (mailbox), Mutt will automatically create

Re: Mailboxes are not mailboxes

2000-06-20 Thread David T-G
Dennis -- ...and then Dennis Robertson said... % Hello, % Before I give up and retire hurt to netscape can anyone tell me in words *gasp* % of one syllable how to create mailboxes that work. I get the message The simplest way to create a mailbox is to touch the file into existence. Of

Re: forget pop password

2000-06-20 Thread Baurjan Ismagulov
i have to use two pop servers. i switch between them using macros. i need mutt to forget the pop password. any ideas? Would it be an idea to use fetchmail for local delivery ? IMHO it's simpler ;) yeah, seems that i'll have to do that... i never have time to do the things properly, but i

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-20 Thread David T-G
Brett -- ...and then Brett Coon said... % % So, it sounds like I could define my own set of fields and flags % for X-Label, create some mutt macros to allow me to manipulate ... % or "reply in N days", it should be a simple task to create a perl % script to scan the X-Label headers for

Re: Upgrade oddness

2000-06-20 Thread Chris Conrad
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 10:32:38AM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: On 2000-06-19 22:20:11 -0400, Chris Conrad wrote: Does anyone have any idea why things broke with the upgrade ? Did you update your configuration files? The pgp interface changed a lot between 1.0 and 1.2. Yes, I made

Re: forget pop password

2000-06-20 Thread cgreen
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 03:49:33PM +0200, Nils Vogels wrote: On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 04:05:32PM +0300, Baurjan Ismagulov wrote: hi, i have to use two pop servers. i switch between them using macros. i need mutt to forget the pop password. any ideas? Would it be an idea to use

POP3 Help, Please

2000-06-20 Thread Scott A. Davis
My company just installed a mail server that requires that mail be retrieved via POP 3. I have the following POP commands in my .muttrc set pop_host = "mail.mydomain.com" set pop_user = "my username" set pop_pass = "mypassword" set pop_port = "110" My

Re: Mailboxes are not mailboxes

2000-06-20 Thread Nils Vogels
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 10:35:39PM +1000, Dennis Robertson wrote: Hello, Before I give up and retire hurt to netscape can anyone tell me in words Eeeps! :) of one syllable how to create mailboxes that work. I get the message from mutt that every one of the "mailboxes" I have designated is

Re: procmail question

2000-06-20 Thread David T-G
Gauthier -- ...and then [EMAIL PROTECTED] said... % On Sun, Jun 18, 2000 at 05:49:47PM -0700, Brian D. Winters wrote: % % Never, never, never filter a mailing list like mutt-users based on % To:, Cc:, From:, Subject:, Reply-To: or Mail-Followup-To: if you can % possibly help it. What

Re: Customizing one send-hook for all mailing lists

2000-06-20 Thread David T-G
Dirk -- Please don't just reply to some message and start a new thread; because mutt threads so well, we get an unrelated message in the middle of another thread. I may be assuming a lot, but the new Subject: and the apparently completely unrelated text in the note really make it seem like this

Re: Fwd: failure notice

2000-06-20 Thread Marius Gedminas
Hello, On Sun, Jun 18, 2000 at 11:53:23PM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: Hi there. I can't seem to figure this one out. It's like sendmail is re-writing the Return-Path header and it's making my posts to some mailing lists bounce for some reason. [...] Sounds like you need to fix your

Re: Fwd: failure notice

2000-06-20 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 07:49:49AM +0200, Frank Derichsweiler wrote: I insert a my_hdr Return-Path:... statement into the .muttrc for [EMAIL PROTECTED] but when it bounced back for the second time it showed the Return-Path as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (where devel.danen.net is the hostname for

colors all whacked out?

2000-06-20 Thread Vincent Danen
I just upgraded to 1.2i and the colors are all whacked out. Has this happened to anyone else? I compiled with slang support instead of ncurses and the colors worked ok in the 1.0.1 RPMs from Mandrake, but the colors in this one are just horrible and nothing is coming out right... any ideas?

readonly mailbox in 1.2i?

2000-06-20 Thread Vincent Danen
Now that I've upgraded, mutt tells me my /var/spool/mail/vdanen mailbox is readonly but with 1.0.1 it didn't. Did I mess something up on the compile? Any ideas would be appreciated. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED], OpenPGP key available on www.keyserver.net Freezer Burn BBS:

Re: Fwd: failure notice

2000-06-20 Thread Vincent Danen
On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 09:52:55PM +0200, Marius Gedminas wrote: Hi there. I can't seem to figure this one out. It's like sendmail is re-writing the Return-Path header and it's making my posts to some mailing lists bounce for some reason. [...] Sounds like you need to fix your

Re: failure notice

2000-06-20 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 20 Jun 2000: I just upgraded and have run into a few problems (see other messages). How would I use the envelope thing? set envelope_from="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" It's just: set enveloper_from Nothing else. What it does is that it takes the

setting envelope sender with qmail (was: failure notice)

2000-06-20 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 20 Jun 2000: Someone mentioned an envelope header string that can be defined but I think I lost that message... Can someone re-post that info? I seem to have lost that message... I guess you mean the message I posted yesterday. Here's a better

Re: Yet another FAQ

2000-06-20 Thread Norbert Steinl
* Kai Blin [EMAIL PROTECTED] [200600 17:33 CET]: On Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 07:49:50PM +0200, Norbert Steinl wrote: If somebody finishes this, I would help to spread it by translating it into German and put it on my realperformance website. Need any help? (Or should I write this in

Re: failure notice

2000-06-20 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 10:04:02PM +0300, Mikko Hänninen wrote: Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 20 Jun 2000: I just upgraded and have run into a few problems (see other messages). How would I use the envelope thing? set envelope_from="[EMAIL PROTECTED]" It's just:

setgid on mutt_dotlock?

2000-06-20 Thread Vincent Danen
Is mutt_dotlock supposed to be setgid (sorry Mikko, I meant setgid nor setuid in other message)? I changed it to 755 and I still get read-only permission on /var/spool/mail/vdanen which has -rw-rw permissions and is owned by vdanen.mail. I can't delete any messages in my inbox with the new

Re: POP3 Help, Please

2000-06-20 Thread cgreen
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 11:12:32AM -0500, Scott A. Davis wrote: My company just installed a mail server that requires that mail be retrieved via POP 3. I have the following POP commands in my .muttrc set pop_host = "mail.mydomain.com" set pop_user = "my username" set

read-only mailbox, more details

2000-06-20 Thread Vincent Danen
FYI, this may help track down the problems. I think it has something to do with mutt_dotlock or else how I compiled it. This is how I compiled mutt... maybe I need to add more stuff (like the locking stuff?) to configure? ./configure --prefix=/usr --with-sharedir=/etc --sysconfdir=/etc

Re: failure notice

2000-06-20 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Sun, 18 Jun 2000: Hi there. I can't seem to figure this one out. It's like sendmail is re-writing the Return-Path header and it's making my posts to some mailing lists bounce for some reason. I insert a my_hdr Return-Path:... statement into the

Re: setgid on mutt_dotlock?

2000-06-20 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2000-06-20 12:59:13 -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: Is mutt_dotlock supposed to be setgid (sorry Mikko, I meant setgid nor setuid in other message)? Yes. I changed it to 755 and I still get read-only permission on /var/spool/mail/vdanen which has -rw-rw permissions and is owned by

Re: read-only mailbox, more details

2000-06-20 Thread Thomas Roessler
On 2000-06-20 13:08:25 -0600, Vincent Danen wrote: FYI, this may help track down the problems. I think it has something to do with mutt_dotlock or else how I compiled it. This is how I compiled mutt... maybe I need to add more stuff (like the locking stuff?) to configure? ./configure

Re: setgid on mutt_dotlock?

2000-06-20 Thread Thomas Roessler
I wrote a moment ago: Dotlocking will create a file /var/spool/mail/vdanen.lock. In order to do this, mutt_dotlock needs write access to that directory, which is normally enabled by making mutt_dotlock setgid mail. To illustrate things, here's an example from my system: % ls -ld

Re: special flags (was Re: Message attributes, MH folders)

2000-06-20 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Gerhard den Hollander [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 2000: Speaking of which, how can I get my hands on the latest dev ? There's just a new snapshot out on the ftp site (1.3.4). If you want to live with the CVS, then read the info in doc/devel-notes.txt. Regards, Mikko -- // Mikko

Re: Customizing one send-hook for all mailing lists

2000-06-20 Thread Aaron Schrab
At 16:02 +0200 19 Jun 2000, Dirk Ruediger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is it possible to process the entries of "subscribe" or "lists" to use it for send-hook, e.g.: Read section 4.2 of the manual. Especially the part about the ~l pattern. -- Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Customizing one send-hook for all mailing lists

2000-06-20 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Dirk Ruediger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Mon, 19 Jun 2000: I want to define an implicite send-hook for all mailing lists I am subscribed to and define a special attribution, use special signatures and something like that. Is it possible to process the entries of "subscribe" or "lists" to

Re: Mailboxes are not mailboxes

2000-06-20 Thread clemensF
Dennis Robertson proclaimed on mutt-users that: Before I give up and retire hurt to netscape can anyone tell me in words of one syllable how to create mailboxes that work. I get the message from mutt that every one of the "mailboxes" I have designated is not a mailbox, even though I can see

Re: read-only mailbox, more details

2000-06-20 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 10:46:06PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: FYI, this may help track down the problems. I think it has something to do with mutt_dotlock or else how I compiled it. This is how I compiled mutt... maybe I need to add more stuff (like the locking stuff?) to configure?

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-20 Thread Brett Coon
On Mon, 19 Jun 2000 20:59:23 +0200, Gerhard den Hollander wrote: I've converted my mailboxes to maildir once, it turned out to be slower than mbox, so I converted back to mbox now. Dunno about MH, but I'm guessing it's about the same speed as maildir since it resembles maildir. are your

Re: setgid on mutt_dotlock?

2000-06-20 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 10:43:52PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: Dotlocking will create a file /var/spool/mail/vdanen.lock. In order to do this, mutt_dotlock needs write access to that directory, which is normally enabled by making mutt_dotlock setgid mail. To illustrate things,

Re: setgid on mutt_dotlock?

2000-06-20 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 03:08:14PM -0500, Aaron Schrab wrote: Is mutt_dotlock supposed to be setgid (sorry Mikko, I meant setgid Yes, it needs to be setgid to the group that owns the mail spool directory. That's the whole point of it. Dotlocking in some configurations needs to be

Re: setgid on mutt_dotlock?

2000-06-20 Thread Vincent Danen
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 10:41:51PM +0200, Thomas Roessler wrote: I changed it to 755 and I still get read-only permission on /var/spool/mail/vdanen which has -rw-rw permissions and is owned by vdanen.mail. The important thing are the permissions of the /var/spool/mail _directory_,

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-20 Thread clemensF
Gerhard den Hollander wrote: * clemensF [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mon, Jun 19, 2000 at 07:49:56PM +0200) Ronny Haryanto: I've converted my mailboxes to maildir once, it turned out to be slower than mbox, so I converted back to mbox now. Dunno about MH, but I'm guessing it's about the same

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-20 Thread Mikko Hänninen
Brett Coon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on Tue, 20 Jun 2000: So, in summary, MH format is slw in mutt. NFS makes it far slower, no doubt due to NFS write behavior, You could try also Maildir. It's NFS safe (no locking needed!), and it might (ought to!) give you a better performance on

[Announce] Mutt-1.2.2 is out.

2000-06-20 Thread Thomas Roessler
Mutt-1.2.2 is on its way to the FTP archive under ftp://ftp.mutt.org/pub/mutt/, and will soon propagate to the usual mirror sites, as listed under http://www.mutt.org/download.html. This version fixes a build problem present with 1.2.1. Thus, if Mutt-1.2.1 is working for you,

GPG and mutt

2000-06-20 Thread Nils Vogels
Hi all! I'm using gpg 1.0.0 with mutt to handle my PGP ... but for some reason I keep on getting "key not found" messages .. I dont think noone has their keys on keyservers nowadays, so I must be doing something wrong .. I think you obviously need more info to be able to help me .. so here

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-20 Thread David Champion
On 2000.06.20, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], "clemensF" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: so, why in the world would one want to leave mh for mutt? Are you asking why in the world would one want to leave: next spacespacespacenext comp ... send spacespacenext spacespacenext spacespacespacespacenext

Re: Message attributes, MH folders

2000-06-20 Thread Brett Coon
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:07:00 +0200, clemensF wrote: well, i',m on the verge of converting to [nx]mh. but i stick to the rules, i.e. i will answer each message to me in due time, so i can't keep n*1000 messages, a few dozen are the utmost horror to me. so, why in the world would one want to

Re: GPG and mutt

2000-06-20 Thread Lars Hecking
Nils Vogels writes: Hi all! I'm using gpg 1.0.0 with mutt to handle my PGP ... but for some reason I keep on getting "key not found" messages .. I dont think noone has their keys on keyservers nowadays, so I must be doing something wrong .. I think you obviously need more info to be

Re: GPG and mutt

2000-06-20 Thread clemensF
Nils Vogels wrote: I'm using gpg 1.0.0 with mutt to handle my PGP ... but for some reason I keep on getting "key not found" messages .. I dont think noone has their keys on keyservers nowadays, so I must be doing something wrong .. you probably need the rsa/idea extensions. search the

emacs mutt

2000-06-20 Thread Dale Morris
I've started using emacs as editor for mutt. I'm specified it in the muttrc file and also have setup a script file(e-lisp) in /home/me/.mutt called post.el which is a package for running emacs as an email editor with mutt. It seems to be working fine, but I have a couple of questions. 1.) what

Re: emacs mutt

2000-06-20 Thread Charles Curley
On Tue, Jun 20, 2000 at 07:24:18PM -0700, Dale Morris wrote: - I've started using emacs as editor for mutt. I'm specified it in the - muttrc file and also have setup a script file(e-lisp) in /home/me/.mutt called - post.el which is a package for running emacs as an email editor with - mutt. It

Re: [Announce] Mutt-1.2.2 is out.

2000-06-20 Thread David T-G
TLR -- ...and then Thomas Roessler said... % Mutt-1.2.2 is on its way to the FTP archive under Woo hoo! Thanks! Um, when did 1.2.1 come out? I've had my eyes peeled for the announcement for quite a while now... :-D -- David T-G * It's easier to fight for one's

Re: Suggestion: pgpmimeuser command

2000-06-20 Thread David T-G
Daniel -- You may find everything you wanted for the pgpmimeuser setting in v1.2 and up (currently 1.2.2 AFAIK), since there is now a clearsign mode. With a [few] send-hook[s], you should be able to define whatever settings you wish for whatever recipients you have. You shouldn't have ever had

Performance of Maildir -vs- mbox (was Re: Message attributes, MH folders)

2000-06-20 Thread Bennett Todd
2000-06-21-01:17:34 Ronny Haryanto: I'm still wondering why it's slower though (in general), maybe because it fopen() more times than mbox? The mailbox is on ext2fs if that makes any difference. Ext2 is a nice quick FS, with many great features. One of my favourites. For any size mailbox,

Re: Performance of Maildir -vs- mbox (was Re: Message attributes, MH folders)

2000-06-20 Thread Brett Coon
On Wed, 21 Jun 2000 01:33:31 EDT, Bennett Todd wrote: Back to our muttons, the above performance discussion focused on opening the folder. Once it's open, mutt has built an in-memory data structure describing the messages, and either their offsets in the mbox file, or the filenames where they