Re: dealing with "smart quotes" and other troublesome chars in mutt

2016-02-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Feb 16, 2016 at 10:16:45AM +0100, Louis-David Mitterrand wrote: > Hi, > > How do you guys deal with characters that appear as ??? in mutt > messages, often sent by Apple Mail users? > > For instance one of these chars is apparently the "smart quote" > appearing as =E2=80=9D or =E2=80=99

Re: Timeout surpassed, mailbox closed on sync

2016-01-28 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jan 26, 2016 at 03:01:09PM -0500, Nathan Lee wrote: > Greetings. This is my first post on the list, and I'm new to Mutt. > I've searched the mailing list, and didn't see anything quite like > this. Maybe someone can tell what's happening. Just as an aside, you might want to set the

Re: How does Ian do the "name >" quoting?

2016-01-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 08, 2016 at 11:34:17PM -0500, Xu Wang wrote: > Sometimes I observe that Ian quotes emails such as: > > Michael> its own MTA. The one at Apptix is the obvious, but Apptix's > Michael> SMTP service is crypted and authenticated, and I haven't found > Michael> a way to make mutt log in as

Re: tweak subject with regex before display

2015-12-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 29, 2015 at 11:23:31AM -0800, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > On 2015-12-29 17:37 +0100, Florian Lohoff wrote: > > > Our companys "virus" check adds really annoying "*** unchecked ***" to > > every encrypted mails subject. > > > > Is there a way to suppress certain parts of a subject before

Re: Is there a tool I can use to convert a whole email to webpage or something alike?

2015-11-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 15, 2015 at 10:09:48PM -0800, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > Rule 420: All persons more than eight miles high to leave the court. Hmmm, so how would they get in there in the first place? -- "If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are being oppressed, and

Re: abook to lbdb (OT?)

2015-10-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Oct 15, 2015 at 11:06:34PM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Peter P. [10-15-15 18:28]: > > * Patrick Shanahan [2015-10-15 18:04]: > > > * Peter P. [10-15-15 16:30]: > > > > Hi list, > > > > > > > > please excuse

Re: format=flowed (was: If List Reply Fails, Fall Back to Group Reply or Reply)

2015-09-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Sep 07, 2015 at 12:31:58AM -0400, Grady Martin wrote: > On 2015年09月07日 13時39分, Cameron Simpson wrote: > >Hmm. I was going to complain about your reflow_* > >settings (even though the defaults are to reflow > >at 78 columns), but I see that they are not > >properly obeyed for me either.

Re: more than one FCC possible?

2015-06-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 20, 2015 at 11:53:40PM -0400, Xu Wang wrote: Dear all, My goal is to get the message ID from a message I just sent. One way I am thinking of doing this is copying a message to a temporary file (via FCC) and then getting its message ID with a script. Is this possible? You could

Re: saving messages to files/permissions?

2015-06-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 12:25:51PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Thursday, June 18, 2015 a las 10:14:54PM +1200, Chris Bannister escribió: On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:31:01AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, June 15, 2015 a las 07:43:18AM +1200, Chris Bannister

Re: saving messages to files/permissions?

2015-06-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 15, 2015 at 11:31:01AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: El día Monday, June 15, 2015 a las 07:43:18AM +1200, Chris Bannister escribió: Huh? On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 09:59:40PM -0700, Tom Fowle wrote: Greetings all, Not sure if this may be a debian problem but I often

Re: saving messages to files/permissions?

2015-06-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jun 13, 2015 at 09:59:40PM -0700, Tom Fowle wrote: Greetings all, Not sure if this may be a debian problem but I often save individual incomming emails in seperate files in my home directory with the mutt s command. In any session, the first time I save to a particular file it

Re: showing mails with attachment in index

2015-06-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 11:26:10AM -0500, Will Fiveash wrote: On Tue, Jun 09, 2015 at 02:59:02PM +0200, Orm Finnendahl wrote: Hi, is there an option in mutt to display some indicators in the leftmost column in the index for mails with attachments or is there a way to filter out mails

Re: List headers and List Reply [Was: Sent attached doc from Libreoffice]

2015-05-31 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, May 28, 2015 at 02:28:29PM -0700, Ian Zimmerman wrote: On 2015-05-28 14:38 -0500, Derek Martin wrote: Derek Come on Patrick, you are not new here... You know full well that Derek most mailer software does not have any list-reply function; mutt Derek is a rare exception, and despite

Re: List headers and List Reply [Was: Sent attached doc from Libreoffice]

2015-05-31 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 11:41:49AM +0200, John Niendorf wrote: Derek Come on Patrick, you are not new here... You know full well that Derek most mailer software does not have any list-reply function; mutt Derek is a rare exception, and despite this being a mutt-related list, Derek not the

Re: List headers and List Reply [Was: Sent attached doc from Libreoffice]

2015-05-31 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 03:15:57PM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: El domingo, 31 de mayo de 2015 14:45:36 (CEST), Matthias Apitz escribió: I do have sent any mail from an iPhone. I dont have sent, was what I wanted write :-) -- Sent from my Ubuntu phone http://www.unixarea.de/ :-D

Re: mutt's counterpart feature to gmail's archive?

2015-04-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Apr 16, 2015 at 11:01:03PM +0200, Heinz Diehl wrote: [...] In .muttrc, I have this: macro generic F2 shell-escapemairix Search macro index F3 change-folder=.Searchenter Load the search results macro pager F3 change-folder=.Searchenter Load the search results I believe those last

Re: Remove my alias emails from CC lists.

2015-04-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 08, 2015 at 11:13:11AM -0500, David Champion wrote: * On 08 Apr 2015, David Haguenauer wrote: Hi Brandon, * Brandon Amos ba...@cs.cmu.edu, 2015-04-08 09:33:46 Wed: I forward many email accounts to a primary email account. When I group-reply to emails sent to my

Re: Flashing error messages?

2015-03-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 08:17:12PM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 10:57:32PM +0100, Matthias Apitz wrote: Run mutt in a xterm with logging enabled or, as a last, under strace/truss to catch the messages. Hmmm. Is it possible to run mutt with mutt 2 myerrorlog ?

Re: address book?

2014-11-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 04:05:49PM -0600, Russell Harris wrote: On Tue, November 11, 2014 7:03 am, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 08:23:57AM -0600, Russell Harris wrote: On Mon, November 10, 2014 7:34 am, DaleKelly wrote: how can I configure/maintain an address book

Re: address book?

2014-11-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 08:23:57AM -0600, Russell Harris wrote: On Mon, November 10, 2014 7:34 am, DaleKelly wrote: how can I configure/maintain an address book? But if you have a high volume of email and many addresses, you may need to utilize a database package to manage the address book.

Re: POP? (read some docs first)

2014-11-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 06:29:12PM -0500, DaleKelly wrote: On 11/10/2014 05:58 PM, DaleKelly wrote: Login failed. Command USER is not supported by server. APOP authentication failed. proceeds the above error although it works!!! don't like errors, any help appreciated much I'll

Re: address book?

2014-11-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 09:24:45AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * DaleKelly d...@dalekelly.org [11-10-14 09:22]: On 11/10/2014 08:55 AM, John Niendorf wrote: Check out abook in the repository. [...] already installed, how do I interface it with mutt? Honestly, from a *long* time

Re: now POP ...

2014-11-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 04:24:33AM -0600, Russell Harris wrote: On Sun, November 9, 2014 11:36 pm, DaleKelly wrote: On 11/10/2014 12:20 AM, Francesco Ariis wrote: On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 11:54:19PM -0500, DaleKelly wrote: I use getmail [1] to obtain what you wrote above. Sample pop3

Re: Group replying: set To: instead of Cc:

2014-10-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Oct 14, 2014 at 06:01:24PM +0200, Elias Diem wrote: Hi Chris On 2014-10-14, Chris Bannister wrote: try CTRL-L Does it do what you want? Hmmm. From the manual, CTRL-L is used to refresh the screen. What do I miss here? Oooops, sorry, I meant shift-l, i.e: L -- If you're

Re: Group replying: set To: instead of Cc:

2014-10-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Oct 13, 2014 at 07:20:36PM +0200, Elias Diem wrote: Hi all I often group reply to messages. I'd like to set the To: field with the reply addresses instead of the Cc: field. Is this possible? I didn't find anything on the list archive. try CTRL-L Does it do what you want? -- If

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 04:33:19PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: You're focused on ONE MINISCULE ASPECT of the problem, which is a negligible fraction of the total. As such, your points don't have any real impact on the discussion. Come back when you're: - Not ever getting your food from

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 12:24:31PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: The world has become complicated, and without specialization it does not work, period. That's why you don't build your own home, grow/raise/kill your own food ... That sounds like corporate propaganda to me - i.e. they don't want

Re: How is mutt with multi-mega-byte mboxes?

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 04:19:12PM -0400, Mark Filipak wrote: How is mutt with multi-mega-byte mboxes? Have you found that having tens of thousands of messages in a single box is dangerous? No, just really slow! -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the people who are

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 11:05:50AM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 07:09:22PM +1200, Chris Bannister wrote: It's *so* easy to grow your own vegetables. No one said it was hard... most of the things you pay someone else to do aren't (though some definitely are). Well

Re: How is mutt with multi-mega-byte mboxes?

2014-09-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 10:23:03AM -0500, David Champion wrote: * On 19 Sep 2014, Chris Bannister wrote: On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 04:19:12PM -0400, Mark Filipak wrote: How is mutt with multi-mega-byte mboxes? Have you found that having tens of thousands of messages in a single box

Re: Format flowed equals no space in depth 1

2014-09-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 03:36:26PM -0400, Patrice Levesque wrote: roads; red lights, yield signs, school buses and all. Please, what is a yield sign? Is that what the rest of the world would call a stop sign, or a give way sign? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have you hating the

Re: mail box vanished

2014-08-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 10:40:05AM +0200, Ulrich Lauther wrote: On Fri, Aug 01, 2014 at 10:33:27AM +0200, Ulrich Lauther wrote: Is there a way to mark - accidentally - all messages as read? I should have said: Is there a way to mark - accidentally - all messages as read or deleted?

Re: Correct syntax of send hook

2014-05-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 04:52:22PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: On 12.05.14 21:28, Mark Filipak wrote: I listen to the BBC almost all the time. I think the hosts butcher English as thoroughly as the average American. True, the modern BBC's English on its website is egregious, with

Re: Correct syntax of send hook

2014-05-13 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 08:39:14AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz [05-13-14 05:35]: [...] You forgot 'eggs it' = exit :) and'artic'= arctic Erik (Scurrying for cover) Well, I still close the hood of my automobile/truck

Re: Correct syntax of send hook

2014-05-12 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 01:48:48PM +0200, Suvayu Ali wrote: On Mon, May 12, 2014 at 01:12:54AM -0400, Mark Filipak wrote: On 2014/5/11 11:08 PM, Chris Bannister wrote: -snip- More worrying are the strange ammendments that American English is imposing (or has imposed) on us people who

Re: Correct syntax of send hook

2014-05-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, May 11, 2014 at 07:54:16AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Guy Gold g...@merl.com [05-11-14 07:38]: On Sat,May 10 06:49:PM, Derek Martin wrote: Mostly I reply here due to a curiosity: Why is 'messed' in single quotes here? I see people do this increasingly often, and I don't

Re: Using maildir

2014-04-29 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 02:57:27PM +0100, Tom Furie wrote: On Tue, Apr 29, 2014 at 04:00:07AM +0100, David Woodfall wrote: I've just set up dovecot/procmail on a debian VPS and when using mutt with maildir, as I navigate around, I see the new/ cur/ tmp/ folders and inside the actual file

Re: I how to customize the help line on top

2014-04-20 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 10:48:02AM +0100, Maurice McCarthy wrote: OK I did an experiment and it worked. When you open mutt it shows the index view and that displays the default bindings that Michael Kaiser asked about. If we change the default bindings in /etc/Muttrc or ~/.muttrc then the top

Re: displaying the outbox

2014-04-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Apr 09, 2014 at 01:09:16PM +0200, Andre Klärner wrote: On Tue 08.04.2014 19:53:02, Ulrich Lauther wrote: So, where am I supposed to read the manual? Maybe try the manual that came with your distribution (Debian: /usr/share/doc/mutt/manual.txt.gz) or at least the manual for the mutt

Re: Questions from a newbie

2014-02-14 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Feb 14, 2014 at 07:12:53AM +0100, alb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi I have a few basic questions about mutt: 1) does mutt support any kind of scripting for its API? if so, what scripting languages can be used? 2) is it possible to define custom actions for selected emails (e.g. getting

Re: Distinguishing Cc'd e-mail from To'd email

2014-02-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:49:55PM +0800, Chris Down wrote: I got an interesting mail from Nikola Petrov off-list saying that his Mutt configuration does not interpret ~p as including Cc'd mails. Wouldn't it be better to keep the mails on list? Could get confusing otherwise. -- If you're not

Re: Distinguishing Cc'd e-mail from To'd email

2014-02-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:03:17AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 05:49:55PM +0800, Chris Down wrote: I got an interesting mail from Nikola Petrov off-list saying that his Mutt configuration does not interpret ~p as including Cc'd mails. Wouldn't it be better to keep

Re: Distinguishing Cc'd e-mail from To'd email

2014-02-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 03:03:33AM +0800, Chris Down wrote: On 2014-02-11 00:29:17 +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: In my .muttrc I have: set to_chars= +TCF See table 2.6 in the documentation. How does this affect the behaviour of ~p? As far as I can tell, this only appears to have

Re: defining a shortcut to save to a mailbox

2014-02-08 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Feb 08, 2014 at 11:05:34AM +, John wrote: Hello list, I'd like to define numeric zero in mutt to have mutt save the selected message to a mailbox I've called spam-missed. How does one do this? I've read save-hook and macro in the manual but neither seems to be able to do

Re: folder-hook for sending to lists

2014-02-07 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Feb 07, 2014 at 05:08:17PM -0500, glphvgacs wrote: On Wed, Feb 05, 2014 at 04:23:31PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 11:03:36AM -0500, glphvgacs wrote: and so i get: To: mutt-users@mutt.org, ycm-us...@googlegroups.com i don't know if there is a way

Re: folder-hook for sending to lists

2014-02-04 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Feb 03, 2014 at 11:03:36AM -0500, glphvgacs wrote: and so i get: To: mutt-users@mutt.org, ycm-us...@googlegroups.com i don't know if there is a way to un-hook a hook when one leaves a folder, or rather when a pattern for a hook stops to evaluate TRUE. another guess, this might

Re: unbind (all) key bindings

2013-11-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 01:41:55PM +, Martin Orwin wrote: I understand your concerns about this but I don't think you'll find it a problem in the long run. I occasionally hit the wrong key and there is always a way of undoing what I've done (aside from saying 'no' when Mutt actually

Re: unbind (all) key bindings

2013-11-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 10:09:37AM +0100, Martin Vegter wrote: I have found the following in the manual: bindindex j noop bindindex k noop the problem with this approach is, that I have to unbind every single key-binding explicitly. It makes no

Re: mutt: new user

2013-11-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 07:12:59PM +0100, Martin Vegter wrote: Dear list, I have just installed mutt, and I am little bit confused. I can see my received emails, but I am not able to switch to my sent emails folder. Is this the way mutt is supposed to work (only reading received emails)?

Re: Account-hooks do not work as expected

2013-11-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 10:18:10PM +0100, Niels Kobschaetzki wrote: Hi, I am relatively new to mutt but was able to set up some account-hooks. I have three accounts A, B and C and when I start mutt everything works as expected. I start in account A and when I want to change folders or want

Re: mutt: new user

2013-11-17 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 01:59:04PM -0600, rlhar...@oplink.net wrote: so the payback is almost immediate. In terms of user efficiency, the only MUA which is competitive to Mutt is Gnus. (I view Gnus as almost a religion; it is a marvelous and rewarding system, but it has a steep learning

ctrl-g doesn't work when no is chosen on a reply-to.

2013-10-22 Thread Chris Bannister
Hi, I have noticed that when pressing 'r' on a message where the reply-to is set, that if you choose 'n' to each option - ctrl-g doesn't work and pressing 'n' asks what you want to search for. It is easy to demonstrate but not so easy to explain. If you need any further info, please ask. --

Re: Mutt Tips / Guide

2013-09-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 03:55:49PM -0700, Josef Bailey wrote: On 09/21, Robert Holtzman wrote: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html -- Bob Holtzman Thanks for the reply Thanks for the link and that littearlly didn't help me out .. so i don't know why you even

Re: Encrypting postponed messages

2013-09-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Sep 06, 2013 at 11:05:16AM -0500, Dale Raby wrote: If it's sensitive enough to be encrypted outgoing, it's sensitive enough to be encrypted on disk... even if you haven't actually sent it yet. Well, its easy enough to encrypt the whole disk with modern OS's, so if the message

Re: Encrypting postponed messages

2013-09-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Sep 08, 2013 at 06:08:04PM +0100, Mick wrote: Yep, I had more than once, on machine(s) with no vim. I've never managed to learn how to use emacs, but as they say it's never tool late to learn to play the piano! :p It's more like an organ, and yes you do need the whole Cathedral.

Re: Encrypting postponed messages

2013-09-05 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Sep 04, 2013 at 05:30:16PM +0100, Óscar Pereira wrote: Dear all, The subject seems pretty self-explanatory. Use case, you're writing an email, which is already marked as to be sent encrypted, but you have to postpone it. In the meantime offlineimap runs and syncs you mailboxes, and

Re: The etiquette of RTFM (Re: I have forgotten ...)

2013-06-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 09:03:32PM +1000, Erik Christiansen wrote: On 21.06.13 10:13, Rado Q wrote: But not to make one side happy and reject the other, how about this: we get 2 lists, one for the basicsimple stuff (mutt-users), the other for advanced (mutt-adventures). Have some moderators

Re: Mutt slow to respond?

2013-06-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jun 24, 2013 at 06:43:25AM +0100, Nigel Green wrote: Hi all, I've used Mutt for a while now and never had any issues with performance, but my latest install feels really laggy. On an index screen there's a gap of half a second or so between hitting a key and the cursor moving, which

Re: opening +[Gmail]/All Mail is slowish

2013-04-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Apr 09, 2013 at 11:19:07AM +0200, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: Purely just out of curiosity, why would you need to keep such a high number of email? Is this something quite common (at risk of sounding a bit stupid)? I just can't imagine ever keeping that much email in my account. My

Re: Long urls - update

2013-04-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 10:00:58PM -0600, s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Luis Mochan: I found a mistake in the extract_url.pl program: it doesn't escape ampersands when present in the url, so when the command to actually view the url is invoked, the shell gets confused. I made a quick fix

Re: Long urls - update

2013-04-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Apr 02, 2013 at 01:06:05AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 10:00:58PM -0600, s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Luis Mochan: I found a mistake in the extract_url.pl program: it doesn't escape ampersands when present in the url, so when the command to actually

Re: Long urls

2013-03-30 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 02:56:18PM +0100, John Niendorf wrote: I am using Mutt-patched from the Ubuntu repository (Yes, I am one of the unwashed.) Anyway, it works really well except that if a url extends to multiple lines, Mutt can't figure it out and clicking leads to a page not found

Re: Long urls

2013-03-30 Thread Chris Bannister
Reply to the list (only) please John, so others can follow along. The messages are archived for future generations to find if they can bother searching. On Sat, Mar 30, 2013 at 03:44:08PM +0100, John Niendorf wrote: Sun, Mar 31, 2013 at 03:37:19AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote

Re: Better folder navigation ?

2013-03-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Mar 25, 2013 at 01:01:00AM -0400, Max Rydahl Andersen wrote: With ~250 nested folders the 'c' change folder is rather tedious to use. Or is it somehow possible to write a macro that uses find shell command to locate list of possible folders and then have me choose the right one ? I

Re: Why sign every message? (was Re: Sending attachments without crypt_autosign

2013-03-09 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Mar 06, 2013 at 09:37:46AM -0600, Dale Raby wrote: I sign most of my messages, even though I only know a few people who actively use GnuPG/PGP. As I see it, this is one way of promoting encryption. I.e.: What is that block of gibberish you have at the end of your emails? That, my

Re: Why does some list software not honor the headers? (was ... Re: People want ...)

2013-02-27 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 02:43:42PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: If you've ever had to do this, you know it's tedious and annoying. Mutt is the only client I know of that gives you a choice in the matter, via the $reply-to variable. I wondered why I couldn't find it. :) JFTR, it's $reply_to --

Re: Why does some list software not honor the headers? (was ... Re: People want ...)

2013-02-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Feb 23, 2013 at 08:00:24AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz [02-23-13 00:32]: On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 07:44:37AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: Then it *should* be upon you to adjust your mail-system to provide the *special* provision

Why does some list software not honor the headers? (was ... Re: People want ...)

2013-02-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 20, 2013 at 07:44:37AM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: Then it *should* be upon you to adjust your mail-system to provide the *special* provision that *you* desire rather than force an un-needed extra copy upon the rest of the world. The **ONLY** way to not get an extra copy is

Re: Highlight threads related to me

2013-02-19 Thread Chris Bannister
[Corrected subject, for archive search purposes] - Marco net...@lavabit.com [2013-02-19 00:12:52 +0100] - : On 2013–02–18 Marco wrote: Since I use folding by default, I would like to highlight entire Hi Marco (sorry about private mail, thought I'd lost this thread.) When you

Re: People that CC mailing lists

2013-02-18 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Feb 17, 2013 at 09:03:13PM +0100, Patrick Ben Koetter wrote: mutt, like vi and other command line programs, have an invisible user interface. One needs to internalize the interface in order to use it efficiently. If takes lots of time to learn such an interface and to become

Re: People that CC mailing lists

2013-02-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Feb 13, 2013 at 02:00:41PM -0700, Bob Proulx wrote: Michael Elkins wrote: I prefer to save the copy with the List-Post header field rather than the personal copy, so I use a slightly different approach: Agreed. However Mailman has an option that is often (ab)used. Filter out

Re: People that CC mailing lists

2013-02-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 08:02:02AM +0100, Alexander Dahl wrote: This is exactly the problem: if you have unexperienced or uninterested users you want them to have an easy user interface. Teaching them to hit reply if they want to answer just to the poster and reply to all for answering all

Re: colorize mails from different mailing lists

2013-02-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Feb 14, 2013 at 11:06:01PM +0530, dexter wrote: how can i colorize 'subject' line from different mailing lists in index. Wouldn't sorting them into different mailboxes avoid the problem of two or more lists having the same subject? -- If you're not careful, the newspapers will have

Re: People that CC mailing lists

2013-02-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 03:40:14PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 10:30:32AM +, Chris Green wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:46:34AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 09:31:23AM +, Chris Green wrote: If you have the list in your .muutrc

Re: [POSSIBLE SPAM] People that CC mailing lists

2013-02-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 09:31:23AM +, Chris Green wrote: On Sun, Feb 10, 2013 at 07:32:13AM +, Russell L. Harris wrote: * David Woodfall d...@dawoodfall.net [130210 00:45]: I've a few mailing lists where people don't send to the mailing list instead they CC it. In which case when

Re: .procmailrc configurations

2013-01-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 12:29:47PM -0500, Patrick Shanahan wrote: for mdir = MAILDIR=$HOME/mail ## your mail dir below /home/user :0: * ^TO_mutt/-users/@mutt/.org $MAILDIR/mutt-users

Re: use of .forward file

2013-01-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:37:06PM +0800, horseriver wrote: I have already read this man page ,and I am reaching on these points all. My system now has one mail delivery agent named exim4. But I do not know is it the default mail delivery agent ? Can you tell me how to

Re: use of .forward file

2013-01-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 12:37:06PM +0800, horseriver wrote: I have already read this man page ,and I am reaching on these points all. My system now has one mail delivery agent named exim4. Umm, no. Have a look at: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Mail-Administrator-HOWTO-3.html

Re: mailing lists and different directories

2013-01-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Jan 23, 2013 at 03:54:05AM +0200, lambda calculus wrote: Hi guys, i recently changed to mutt, and reading the documentation, but i can't find what i want: What program were you using before? Since I'm subscribed to a couple of mailing lists i would like to configure mutt to store

Re: How to import the early mails into mutt ?

2013-01-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Jan 21, 2013 at 12:06:04PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: Incoming from horseriver: I subscribed a mail list at date X , Now I want to import these mails which are post before X , How can I do ? Just brainstorming here. i) please give a better description of your problem.

Re: How to import the early mails into mutt ?

2013-01-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 11:02:24AM -0700, s. keeling wrote: [Apologies if this reaks with hostility; it isn't meant. I've seen your posts before. Understanding error reports and missives from users is an art. Exactly! So asking a mere user whether the messages are stored in mbox or

Re: changing the query command

2013-01-19 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 08:18:47AM -0600, Dale A. Raby wrote: Hello: I've started using Abook recently and run into a minor irritation; when hitting the shift Q key sequence, all is well and I am prompted for my query, but if I forget to hit the shift key, Mutt correctly interprets the

Re: Question about PGP and mutt

2013-01-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 11:09:48AM -0700, Robert Holtzman wrote: On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 07:33:16AM -0600, Dale A. Raby wrote: set pgp_replyencrypt=yes set pgp_timeout=1800 set pgp_good_sign=^gpg: Good signature from I have none of this in my .muttrc and have pgp capability. P shows

Re: Jump to next mailbox with unread mail

2012-12-22 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 01:47:24PM +, Chris Green wrote: I have added:- bindindex n next-unread-mailbox ... and now I can find new mail in all my (mbox) mailboxes without any stupid requirements for setting access times or whatever to the files. I always thought it should be

Re: Jump to next mailbox with unread mail

2012-12-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 02:01:47AM +0100, Marco wrote: On 2012–12–20 Patrick Shanahan wrote: You access the mail box and leave, then expect mutt to still show new mail. Yes, I do. If there is a new unread message in the mail box and I enter and leave it is still contains an unread

Re: Jump to next mailbox with unread mail

2012-12-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Dec 21, 2012 at 03:45:06PM +, Chris Green wrote: Yes (not the OP here though), however it has always seemed odd to me that I can't get mutt to take me to all/any mailboxes which have *unread* mail in them. I.e. I want 'c' to take me to the next mailbox with unread mail in it,

Re: Jump to next mailbox with unread mail

2012-12-21 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Dec 22, 2012 at 07:03:23AM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: Weird, the documentation has (under pattern matching) ~N New messages ~O Old messages ~U Unread messages Just wondering, what is an Unread message if its not New or Old, unless its New AND Old together

Re: HTML markup in email [was: Please set your line wrap to a sane value]

2012-12-16 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 12:15:49PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: On Sat, Dec 15, 2012 at 11:44:17PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 07:43:12PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: Same arguemnt as above. Also this is mostly not interesting anymore. When you compare

Re: HTML markup in email [was: Please set your line wrap to a sane value]

2012-12-15 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 07:43:12PM -0600, Derek Martin wrote: Same arguemnt as above. Also this is mostly not interesting anymore. When you compare this to the amount of bandwidth consumed by things like streaming video, it's a drop in the bucket. Streaming video is specifically requested. I

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 10:55:32AM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote: On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 01:53:59PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 02:33:56PM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote: The fact that I don't know how the engine of my car works doesn't make me a newbie. That's

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-11 Thread Chris Bannister
On Tue, Dec 11, 2012 at 01:53:59PM +1300, Chris Bannister wrote: On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 02:33:56PM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote: The fact that I don't know how the engine of my car works doesn't make me a newbie. That's what abstractions in our world are for. Umm, in the car world yes

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 02:33:56PM +0200, Nikola Petrov wrote: The fact that I don't know how the engine of my car works doesn't make me a newbie. That's what abstractions in our world are for. Umm, in the car world yes you'd be a newbie. Don't consider it a derogatory term. We are all

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-10 Thread Chris Bannister
On Mon, Dec 10, 2012 at 07:30:14AM -0600, Dale A. Raby wrote: Not all of us are IT professionals. Some of us are blacksmiths, gun salesmen, truck drivers, and even ecdysiasts. Please don't group IT professionals. and standards/ettiquette/netiquette as one. No exceptions? Really? I seem

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-12-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 07:08:11PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: Now, if we consider lousy tools (tools that either fail to facilitate standards or needlessly impose extra work on humans), then it can only be the contrary of what you're saying. Selfish authors do what is convenient for

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 10:24:59AM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: Actually, it wasn't about GMail at all. It was about the fact that millions of email users don't care about line wrapping, or text/plain, or any of these other 40 year old conventions. The mutt-users group just happens to represent

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Fri, Nov 30, 2012 at 06:20:00PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: The main Python mailing list gets regular posts from Google Groups. Those posts are always malformatted (the formatting seems to change over the years, but it never actually gets better). The ones that aren't just spam are always

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-12-01 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Dec 01, 2012 at 05:57:03PM -0500, Peter Davis wrote: Apparently even proper conversational quoting is too complex for you to follow. I was responding to a comment on a comment on an earlier post of mine. Since I wrote that earlier post, I think I have a pretty good idea what it was

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-26 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 07:14:45PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: On 2012-11-25, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: With regards to mailing list posts, which is what the original post of mine was addressing, sending HTML posts is very wasteful. They are archived

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-25 Thread Chris Bannister
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 08:46:59PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: On 2012-11-24, Derek Martin inva...@pizzashack.org wrote: Yeah, I said exactly that in another message. Now generate HTML mail with Mutt. Plus you still get a lot of folks -- many of whom use GUI clents -- who

Re: email has changed, you won't change everyone, and you don't have to

2012-11-23 Thread Chris Bannister
On Wed, Nov 21, 2012 at 02:37:57PM -0600, David Champion wrote: * On 21 Nov 2012, Chris Bannister wrote: Because there are no CR/LF in a paragraph then it is treated all as one line. If the first line of a paragraph appears at the bottom of the screen as yours did then mutt displays All

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