Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly

2002-07-11 Thread John Iverson
* On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to use mutt without the sendmail server on my machine. I find sendmail configuration quite abstruse. Can I directly make Mutt connect to my ISP's outgoing SMTP server. Not with just Mutt by itself, but you might want to

Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly

2002-07-11 Thread Will Yardley
John Iverson wrote: * On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to use mutt without the sendmail server on my machine. I find sendmail configuration quite abstruse. Can I directly make Mutt connect to my ISP's outgoing SMTP server. Not with just Mutt by itself, but you

Re: bouncing w/ mutt-1.3.28i

2002-07-11 Thread Dominik Vogt
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 01:54:33PM -0500, Aaron Schrab wrote: Hrm. That sounded like a good explanation. Was there any change in the bounce function? Not that I recall. It's always pretty much just resubmitted the message as is, but with new envelope recipients. Shouldn't it add a

Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly

2002-07-11 Thread Chris Grossmann
Just want to add that I switched to postfix (from sendmail) about 3 months ago and have never looked back.. I found the configuration to be easy, especially compared to sendmail. Will Yardley wrote: John Iverson wrote: * On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to

Re: my vimrc made me do it

2002-07-11 Thread Sven Guckes
* W. D. McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-11 06:00]: (my vimrc wraps, sorry.) i was forced. sheesh. (1) change your vimrc (2) change the setting (3) :set paste (4) use 'pastetoggle' knowledge is power! Sven -- ..and give us our daily RTFM..

Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly

2002-07-11 Thread Lee J. Moore
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Chris Grossmann wrote: Just want to add that I switched to postfix (from sendmail) about 3 months ago and have never looked back.. I wonder if anybody on the list knows of any sites comparing the performance and reliability of both Sendmail and Postfix? I can only find

Re: my vimrc made me do it

2002-07-11 Thread Patrick
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-11-02 08:38]: * W. D. McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-11 06:00]: (my vimrc wraps, sorry.) i was forced. sheesh. (1) change your vimrc (2) change the setting (3) :set paste (4) use 'pastetoggle' knowledge is power! Sven -- ..and give

quoting doesn't work in send-hook command

2002-07-11 Thread David Benfell
Hello all, I have a very complicated mutt configuration which includes several lines in the form: send-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] set from=David Benfell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mutt 1.3.28i (2002-03-13) complains that Benfell is an unknown variable. I'm subscribed to a lot of mailing lists with a

Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly

2002-07-11 Thread David Champion
* On 2002.07.11, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: postfix is also a bit less complicated than sendmail to configure (and harder to misconfigure). Sendmail configuration is usually quite easy (that is, unless you're doing complicated things with it). It's

Re: replying to and quoting an HTML attachment

2002-07-11 Thread Gary Johnson
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:44:46PM -0700, Eugene Lee wrote: Thanks to you and John Iverson and Will Yardley for the responses. It turned out to be my mailcap entry. I had this: text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html when I really needed this: text/html; links -dump %s;

[OT] Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly

2002-07-11 Thread Charles Cazabon
David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * On 2002.07.11, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: postfix is also a bit less complicated than sendmail to configure (and harder to misconfigure). Sendmail configuration is usually quite easy (that is, unless

Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly

2002-07-11 Thread William Park
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 11:20:53AM +0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to use mutt without the sendmail server on my machine. I find sendmail configuration quite abstruse. Can I directly make Mutt connect to my ISP's outgoing SMTP server. Sendmail configuration to to what

Re: Mutt users ml downloadable archives

2002-07-11 Thread Alain Bench
Hi David, On Tuesday, July 9, 2002 at 4:10:21 PM -0500, David Champion wrote: http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt-users-199919-200207.mbox.bz2 It's 12.3 GB, ranging from 10/1999 to present. I won't keep it up for long -- a few days, maybe. Thank you very much, David! A little more than

Re: bouncing w/ mutt-1.3.28i

2002-07-11 Thread Aaron Schrab
At 13:30 +0200 11 Jul 2002, Dominik Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 01:54:33PM -0500, Aaron Schrab wrote: Not that I recall. It's always pretty much just resubmitted the message as is, but with new envelope recipients. Shouldn't it add a Resend-To: header? It does,

Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly

2002-07-11 Thread Im Eunjea
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-11 11:20]: Hi, I would like to use mutt without the sendmail server on my machine. I find sendmail configuration quite abstruse. Can I directly make Mutt connect to my ISP's outgoing SMTP server. Regards Amit I'm using sSMTP.

Re: quoting doesn't work in send-hook command

2002-07-11 Thread Dan Boger
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 11:01:40AM -0700, David Benfell wrote: Actually, it did, but only on the second attempt. I'm guessing that mutt is applying the send-hooks before asking who I'm addressing the e-mail to. Which at least is a different problem. How do I fix this one? from the

Re: quoting doesn't work in send-hook command

2002-07-11 Thread Gary Johnson
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 11:01:40AM -0700, David Benfell wrote: On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:22:19 -0400, Dan Boger wrote: try: send-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'set from=David Benfell [EMAIL PROTECTED]' ? does that help? Actually, it did, but only on the second attempt. I'm guessing

Re: Wrong Signature with GPG - gpg.rc

2002-07-11 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 01:30]: * Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-10 21:19]: For quite some time I have a problem veryfying PGP signatures. I get 'Falsche Unterschrift' (wrong signature) messages on these mails though others seem to be able to verify them.

Re: Mutt 1.3.28 internal pager, Screen 3.09.11: right-padded spaces

2002-07-11 Thread Thomas Dickey
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 09:04:09PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: When I ssh in from my X11 desktop to my server (both Debian 3.0) and start sessions under GNU Screen (v. 3.09.11), among which are Mutt (v. 1.3.28) instances, I get a weird effect with Mutt's internal pager: If I highlight text from

Re: Wrong Signature with GPG - gpg.rc

2002-07-11 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Thorsten Haude [02-07-11 21:28:53 +0200] wrote: * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 01:30]: :source contrib/gpg.rc does it help? Nope. That was one of the first things I did when I discovered those problems. Now that I know that a MTA in my mailpath has a broken mbox parser

Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly

2002-07-11 Thread Will Yardley
David Champion wrote: * On 2002.07.11, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: postfix is also a bit less complicated than sendmail to configure (and harder to misconfigure). Sendmail configuration is usually quite easy (that is, unless you're doing complicated

Re: Wrong Signature with GPG - gpg.rc

2002-07-11 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 21:33]: * Thorsten Haude [02-07-11 21:28:53 +0200] wrote: * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 01:30]: :source contrib/gpg.rc does it help? Nope. That was one of the first things I did when I discovered those problems. Now that I know

Re: Wrong Signature with GPG - gpg.rc

2002-07-11 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Thorsten Haude [02-07-11 22:10:53 +0200] wrote: * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 21:33]: That was one of the first things I did when I discovered those problems. Now that I know that a MTA in my mailpath has a broken mbox parser I can verify a few of those bad mails. A few

Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly

2002-07-11 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Will Yardley [02-07-11 22:10:53 +0200] wrote: The postconf tool is also very useful since it lets you query both default and current settings, and even edit settings if necessary. Such a feature would be cool for mutt, too. Finding config mistakes was easier by just reporting

Bye, for now

2002-07-11 Thread Mike Schiraldi
I'm leaving my job to return to school, and my new priorities mean i can't really keep up with the traffic on the mutt lists anymore. Also, mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will start bouncing soon. However, if anyone has any questions about S/MIME or the index_context patch*, you can reach me at [EMAIL

Re: Wrong Signature with GPG - gpg.rc

2002-07-11 Thread Thorsten Haude
Hi, * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 22:29]: * Thorsten Haude [02-07-11 22:10:53 +0200] wrote: * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 21:33]: That was one of the first things I did when I discovered those problems. Now that I know that a MTA in my mailpath has a broken mbox

Re: Wrong Signature with GPG - gpg.rc

2002-07-11 Thread Rocco Rutte
Hi, * Thorsten Haude [02-07-11 23:25:41 +0200] wrote: * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 22:29]: * Thorsten Haude [02-07-11 22:10:53 +0200] wrote: * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 21:33]: A lot of the mails i have problems with are form David (no GMX). I checked some

Re: Wrong Signature with GPG - gpg.rc

2002-07-11 Thread Phil Gregory
* Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-11 23:24 +0200]: A lot of the mails i have problems with are form David (no GMX). IIRC, the last time a thread came up where people were having problems in David's emails not verifying, the problem was traced to an MTA that was improperly

Re: Mutt 1.3.28 internal pager, Screen 3.09.11: right-padded spaces

2002-07-11 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Thomas Dickey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): but what does infocmp show? (screen's terminfo normally doesn't say bce) Thanks for asking. This is from one of the screen sessions, of course: [rick@uncle-enzo] ~ $ infocmp # Reconstructed via infocmp from file: /etc/terminfo/s/screen

Re: Mutt 1.3.28 internal pager, Screen 3.09.11: right-padded spaces

2002-07-11 Thread Rick Moen
Quoting Thomas Dickey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [my infocmp output snipped] ...and no bce. Recent versions of screen allow you to set bce in its configuration, but you have to install a terminfo entry for screen which adds 'bce', so it will work properly. I fear we might be trying to solve the

newbie question on binding

2002-07-11 Thread Rich
i am currently running Mutt 1.4i (2002-05-29) on mandrake 8.2, with a muttrc created with the automated muttrc builder (http://mutt.netliberte.org/). When i am reading a message, in the pager if i am not mistaken, and i want to scroll up to the previous line i cannot using either the backspace

Re: replying to and quoting an HTML attachment

2002-07-11 Thread Eugene Lee
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 09:44:53AM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: : : On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:44:46PM -0700, Eugene Lee wrote: : : Now if I can only figure out how to keep both entries and get Mutt to : let me select between the two methods... : : You can. Just put them in you mailcap in