Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly
* On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to use mutt without the sendmail server on my machine. I find sendmail configuration quite abstruse. Can I directly make Mutt connect to my ISP's outgoing SMTP server. Not with just Mutt by itself, but you might want to check out ssmtp. It's linked from mutt.org's links section, along with other choices. -- John
Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly
John Iverson wrote: * On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to use mutt without the sendmail server on my machine. I find sendmail configuration quite abstruse. Can I directly make Mutt connect to my ISP's outgoing SMTP server. Not with just Mutt by itself, but you might want to check out ssmtp. It's linked from mutt.org's links section, along with other choices. you might also check out postfix; there are good sample configurations for null clients and workstations that relay through a relayhost at: http://www.postfix.org/faq.html postfix is also a bit less complicated than sendmail to configure (and harder to misconfigure). -- Will Yardley input: william @ hq . newdream . net .
Re: bouncing w/ mutt-1.3.28i
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 01:54:33PM -0500, Aaron Schrab wrote: Hrm. That sounded like a good explanation. Was there any change in the bounce function? Not that I recall. It's always pretty much just resubmitted the message as is, but with new envelope recipients. Shouldn't it add a Resend-To: header? Bye Dominik ^_^ ^_^ -- Dominik Vogt, mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED], phone: 0721/91374-382 Schlund + Partner AG, Erbprinzenstr. 4-12, D-76133 Karlsruhe
Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly
Just want to add that I switched to postfix (from sendmail) about 3 months ago and have never looked back.. I found the configuration to be easy, especially compared to sendmail. Will Yardley wrote: John Iverson wrote: * On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to use mutt without the sendmail server on my machine. I find sendmail configuration quite abstruse. Can I directly make Mutt connect to my ISP's outgoing SMTP server. Not with just Mutt by itself, but you might want to check out ssmtp. It's linked from mutt.org's links section, along with other choices. you might also check out postfix; there are good sample configurations for null clients and workstations that relay through a relayhost at: http://www.postfix.org/faq.html postfix is also a bit less complicated than sendmail to configure (and harder to misconfigure). -- Will Yardley input: william @ hq . newdream . net . -- Chris Grossmann email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] web: http://www.grossmann.us YIM - chris_grossmann_rtp
Re: my vimrc made me do it
* W. D. McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-11 06:00]: (my vimrc wraps, sorry.) i was forced. sheesh. (1) change your vimrc (2) change the setting (3) :set paste (4) use 'pastetoggle' knowledge is power! Sven -- ..and give us our daily RTFM..
Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly
On Thu, 11 Jul 2002, Chris Grossmann wrote: Just want to add that I switched to postfix (from sendmail) about 3 months ago and have never looked back.. I wonder if anybody on the list knows of any sites comparing the performance and reliability of both Sendmail and Postfix? I can only find rather unscientific comparisons by John Doe types. ;) I found the configuration to be easy, especially compared to sendmail. I have to say that it surprised me how easy it was to configure. Back when I first installed Gentoo Linux, Sendmail was unavailable. After merging Postfix, it was up and running without any configuration required whatsoever. The default settings were fine. When I had to change the configuration (for Maildir, Procmail integration, etc.) it was a two minute task. :) -- Lee J. Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Benefit the community and reply to the list msg29534/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: my vimrc made me do it
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [07-11-02 08:38]: * W. D. McKinney [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-11 06:00]: (my vimrc wraps, sorry.) i was forced. sheesh. (1) change your vimrc (2) change the setting (3) :set paste (4) use 'pastetoggle' knowledge is power! Sven -- ..and give us our daily RTFM.. Welcome back. Was wondering when the ITCH would finally become so intense as to require grinScratchinggrin. -- Patrick Shanahan Registered Linux User #207535 @ http://counter.li.org
quoting doesn't work in send-hook command
Hello all, I have a very complicated mutt configuration which includes several lines in the form: send-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] set from=David Benfell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mutt 1.3.28i (2002-03-13) complains that Benfell is an unknown variable. I'm subscribed to a lot of mailing lists with a variety of e-mail addresses; getting this working is important. What am I doing wrong? -- David Benfell, LCP [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Resume available at http://www.parts-unknown.org/resume.html msg29536/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly
* On 2002.07.11, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: postfix is also a bit less complicated than sendmail to configure (and harder to misconfigure). Sendmail configuration is usually quite easy (that is, unless you're doing complicated things with it). It's finding out how to configure it that's hard. The introductory material is not so good. Given a quick start guide, though, sendmail is no worse than postfix (which I found harder to configure, frankly). -- -D.Fresh fruit enriches everyone. Takes the thirst ENSA, NSIT out of everyday time. A pure whiff of oxygen, University of Chicago painting over a monochrome world in primary colors. [EMAIL PROTECTED] We all know that. It's why everyone loves fruit.
Re: replying to and quoting an HTML attachment
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:44:46PM -0700, Eugene Lee wrote: Thanks to you and John Iverson and Will Yardley for the responses. It turned out to be my mailcap entry. I had this: text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html when I really needed this: text/html; links -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput Now if I can only figure out how to keep both entries and get Mutt to let me select between the two methods... You can. Just put them in you mailcap in this order: text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html text/html; links -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput The copiousoutput tag tells mutt to use that entry for in-line expansion of text/html content while using the other entry to view text/html content from the attachment menu. This is covered in the mutt manual in the section on Search Order (5.3.3.2) under Advanced mailcap Usage (5.3.3). Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Spokane, Washington, USA http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |
[OT] Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly
David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: * On 2002.07.11, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: postfix is also a bit less complicated than sendmail to configure (and harder to misconfigure). Sendmail configuration is usually quite easy (that is, unless you're doing complicated things with it). It's finding out how to configure it that's hard. The introductory material is not so good. Given a quick start guide, though, sendmail is no worse than postfix (which I found harder to configure, frankly). qmail configuration is even easier. Installing the software is trivial if you follow Life with qmail (http://lifewithqmail.org), and then configuration is literally a single step for simple installations: ./config-fast myhost.mydomain.tld Charles -- --- Charles Cazabon [EMAIL PROTECTED] GPL'ed software available at: http://www.qcc.ca/~charlesc/software/ ---
Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 11:20:53AM +0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I would like to use mutt without the sendmail server on my machine. I find sendmail configuration quite abstruse. Can I directly make Mutt connect to my ISP's outgoing SMTP server. Sendmail configuration to to what Mutt would be doing is absolutely trivial. Key line would be define(`SMART_HOST', `smarthost.yourISP.net') -- William Park, Open Geometry Consulting, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 8-CPU Cluster, Hosting, NAS, Linux, LaTeX, python, vim, mutt, tin
Re: Mutt users ml downloadable archives
Hi David, On Tuesday, July 9, 2002 at 4:10:21 PM -0500, David Champion wrote: http://home.uchicago.edu/~dgc/mutt-users-199919-200207.mbox.bz2 It's 12.3 GB, ranging from 10/1999 to present. I won't keep it up for long -- a few days, maybe. Thank you very much, David! A little more than an hour to download with my slow V34 modem, but got it correctly. Anybody has cheap unlimited space to store such an archive permanently? I think it's very interesting for newcomers, at least as much as online searchable archives. And BTW, what before 1999? And mutt-dev? Thanks again, bye! Alain.
Re: bouncing w/ mutt-1.3.28i
At 13:30 +0200 11 Jul 2002, Dominik Vogt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 01:54:33PM -0500, Aaron Schrab wrote: Not that I recall. It's always pretty much just resubmitted the message as is, but with new envelope recipients. Shouldn't it add a Resend-To: header? It does, along with various other Resent- headers. My main point was that the bounce command hasn't really changed, and that (for the most part) it doesn't alter the message. The addition of a few headers is outside the scope of what I was commenting on. -- Aaron Schrab [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.schrab.com/aaron/ If you consistently take an antagonistic approach, however, people are going to start thinking you're from New York. :-) --Larry Wall to Dan Bernstein
Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-11 11:20]: Hi, I would like to use mutt without the sendmail server on my machine. I find sendmail configuration quite abstruse. Can I directly make Mutt connect to my ISP's outgoing SMTP server. Regards Amit I'm using sSMTP. ftp://metalab.unc.edu/pub/Linux/system/mail/mta/ -- http://kldp.org/~eunjea/
Re: quoting doesn't work in send-hook command
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 11:01:40AM -0700, David Benfell wrote: Actually, it did, but only on the second attempt. I'm guessing that mutt is applying the send-hooks before asking who I'm addressing the e-mail to. Which at least is a different problem. How do I fix this one? from the manual: Note: the send-hook's are only executed ONCE after getting the initial list of recipients. Adding a recipient after replying or editing the message will NOT cause any send-hook to be executed. Also note that my_hdr commands which modify recipient headers, or the message's subject, don't have any effect on the current message when executed from a send-hook. so it's supposed to run AFTER getting the addressees. I think what you see if the my_hdr clause, saying a send-hook cannot apply a my_hdr command to the current message. The only way I know to get around this is to either set up folder-hooks, or macros to apply the changes before the msg is composed. -- Dan Boger [EMAIL PROTECTED] msg29546/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: quoting doesn't work in send-hook command
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 11:01:40AM -0700, David Benfell wrote: On Thu, 11 Jul 2002 12:22:19 -0400, Dan Boger wrote: try: send-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'set from=David Benfell [EMAIL PROTECTED]' ? does that help? Actually, it did, but only on the second attempt. I'm guessing that mutt is applying the send-hooks before asking who I'm addressing the e-mail to. Which at least is a different problem. How do I fix this one? Use my_hdr From: instead of setting from, like this: send-hook [EMAIL PROTECTED] 'my_hdr From: David Benfell [EMAIL PROTECTED]' I think the quoting shown is sufficient, but I'm not sure. Gary -- Gary Johnson | Agilent Technologies [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Spokane, Washington, USA http://www.spocom.com/users/gjohnson/mutt/ |
Re: Wrong Signature with GPG - gpg.rc
Hi, * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 01:30]: * Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-10 21:19]: For quite some time I have a problem veryfying PGP signatures. I get 'Falsche Unterschrift' (wrong signature) messages on these mails though others seem to be able to verify them. [...] I use GnuPG 1.0.6. :source contrib/gpg.rc does it help? Nope. feedback, please! Sure; let me know if you come up with other things that could clear this up. Thorsten -- Alles ist richtig, auch das Gegenteil. - Kurt Tucholsky
Re: Mutt 1.3.28 internal pager, Screen 3.09.11: right-padded spaces
On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 09:04:09PM -0700, Rick Moen wrote: When I ssh in from my X11 desktop to my server (both Debian 3.0) and start sessions under GNU Screen (v. 3.09.11), among which are Mutt (v. 1.3.28) instances, I get a weird effect with Mutt's internal pager: If I highlight text from Mutt's internal pager and use X11 copy/paste to copy it to elsewhere, there is right-side padding of all lines of text. Most lines get padded all the way to column 80. Some shorter lines get less (and I'm not sure what the pattern is). Text copied/pasted from vim (as Mutt editor), or from less used in place of the internal pager, don't show this symptom. If I exit from Screen entirely, then start up Mutt and use its internal pager, X11 copy/pastes from the internal pager do NOT show that effect. So, something unhealthy's going on between Mutt's internal pager and Screen. :r! echo $TERM screen but what does infocmp show? (screen's terminfo normally doesn't say bce) -- Thomas E. Dickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://invisible-island.net ftp://invisible-island.net
Re: Wrong Signature with GPG - gpg.rc
Hi, * Thorsten Haude [02-07-11 21:28:53 +0200] wrote: * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 01:30]: :source contrib/gpg.rc does it help? Nope. That was one of the first things I did when I discovered those problems. Now that I know that a MTA in my mailpath has a broken mbox parser I can verify a few of those bad mails. A few which I can't verify remain. David provided some other tips which didn't help for me. So I just commented out the code producing the message in mutt (Signature could NOT be verified). It's ugly but it works for me. bye, Rocco
Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly
David Champion wrote: * On 2002.07.11, in [EMAIL PROTECTED], * Will Yardley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: postfix is also a bit less complicated than sendmail to configure (and harder to misconfigure). Sendmail configuration is usually quite easy (that is, unless you're doing complicated things with it). It's finding out how to configure it that's hard. The introductory material is not so good. Given a quick start guide, though, sendmail is no worse than postfix (which I found harder to configure, frankly). i suppose it's a matter of opinion, and what you're used to (and what your personal preferences are). I have used (and continue to use) sendmail, although I generally prefer to use postfix when possible. I make no claims to being an expert with m4, but I find flat configuration files simpler to deal with, and there are a lot of mistakes (order of stuff in the mc file, editing the cf file directly) that people tend to make frequently if they don't have experience with sendmail. Many vendors have their own tools which make it easier (or harder) to deal with. The postconf tool is also very useful since it lets you query both default and current settings, and even edit settings if necessary. I have no hard stats, but I've found postfix's performance to be better than sendmail's, and its security record is excellent. Charles Cazabon wrote: qmail configuration is even easier. Installing the software is trivial if you follow Life with qmail (http://lifewithqmail.org), and then configuration is literally a single step for simple installations: To each his / her own, I suppose. I find qmail almost as unpleasant as its author. -- Will Yardley input: william @ hq . newdream . net .
Re: Wrong Signature with GPG - gpg.rc
Hi, * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 21:33]: * Thorsten Haude [02-07-11 21:28:53 +0200] wrote: * Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 01:30]: :source contrib/gpg.rc does it help? Nope. That was one of the first things I did when I discovered those problems. Now that I know that a MTA in my mailpath has a broken mbox parser I can verify a few of those bad mails. A few which I can't verify remain. Could you tell more about this? How did you identify the broken MTA and what did you do to fix it? David provided some other tips which didn't help for me. I sure tried to follow that thread but David's mails are much harder to read than the others. So I just commented out the code producing the message in mutt (Signature could NOT be verified). It's ugly but it works for me. Errr.. That means you disabled verifying? Thorsten -- The true danger is when liberty is nibbled away for expedients. - Edmund Burke
Re: Wrong Signature with GPG - gpg.rc
Hi, * Thorsten Haude [02-07-11 22:10:53 +0200] wrote: * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 21:33]: That was one of the first things I did when I discovered those problems. Now that I know that a MTA in my mailpath has a broken mbox parser I can verify a few of those bad mails. A few which I can't verify remain. Could you tell more about this? How did you identify the broken MTA and what did you do to fix it? Someone else found out that GMX escapes 'from' at the beginning of a line to 'from' which was the reason why I could not verify a few mails. It's a short sed/python/perl solution to remove it again. As I said, a few still remain. Since some people don't have problems at all, I don't believe in a mutt problem anymore but in an MTA and MDA issue (MTAs, fetchmail, procmail and the like). A start would be to compare the raw messages affected with the orignal by the author (those discussions should be moved off list) and to collect some information about the mail configurations involved. David provided some other tips which didn't help for me. I sure tried to follow that thread but David's mails are much harder to read than the others. Because of the quoting? ;-) His tips entirely dealed with GPG. I can look it up and tell you the message-id. So I just commented out the code producing the message in mutt (Signature could NOT be verified). It's ugly but it works for me. Errr.. That means you disabled verifying? No. I just stoped mutt reporting about the verification. The GPG output I see is verbose enough, IMO. Someone could easily fool me with faked GPG reports this way... I know. bye, Rocco
Re: how to use the ISP''s smtp server directly
Hi, * Will Yardley [02-07-11 22:10:53 +0200] wrote: The postconf tool is also very useful since it lets you query both default and current settings, and even edit settings if necessary. Such a feature would be cool for mutt, too. Finding config mistakes was easier by just reporting non-default values of the system-wide and user-specific config files (for use in flea(1), for example). bye, Rocco
Bye, for now
I'm leaving my job to return to school, and my new priorities mean i can't really keep up with the traffic on the mutt lists anymore. Also, mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] will start bouncing soon. However, if anyone has any questions about S/MIME or the index_context patch*, you can reach me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's been fun. *plug: you should really get around to accepting it into CVS since i'm not going to be around to update the patch for future mutt releases, or to bug you anymore about accepting the patch smime.p7s Description: application/pkcs7-signature
Re: Wrong Signature with GPG - gpg.rc
Hi, * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 22:29]: * Thorsten Haude [02-07-11 22:10:53 +0200] wrote: * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 21:33]: That was one of the first things I did when I discovered those problems. Now that I know that a MTA in my mailpath has a broken mbox parser I can verify a few of those bad mails. A few which I can't verify remain. Could you tell more about this? How did you identify the broken MTA and what did you do to fix it? Someone else found out that GMX escapes 'from' at the beginning of a line to 'from' which was the reason why I could not verify a few mails. It's a short sed/python/perl solution to remove it again. As I said, a few still remain. A lot of the mails i have problems with are form David (no GMX). I checked some others with the same problem, also no GMX. David provided some other tips which didn't help for me. I sure tried to follow that thread but David's mails are much harder to read than the others. Because of the quoting? ;-) His tips entirely dealed with GPG. I can look it up and tell you the message-id. Yup, the quoting. I read mails by color, and David's are uncolored but much more bumpy than the average tofu mail. So I just commented out the code producing the message in mutt (Signature could NOT be verified). It's ugly but it works for me. Errr.. That means you disabled verifying? No. I just stoped mutt reporting about the verification. The GPG output I see is verbose enough, IMO. I think we are talking about two different things here. What I see is this: [-- PGP output follows (current time: Don 11 Jul 2002 23:06:04 CEST) --] gpg: Warnung: Sensible Daten könnten auf Platte ausgelagert werden. gpg: Unterschrift vom Son 09 Jun 2002 19:12:09 CEST, DSA Schlüssel ID 7B9F4700 gpg: FALSCHE Unterschrift von David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-- Ende der PGP-Ausgabe --] Warning: Sensitive data could be swapped to disk. Signature from (...) WRONG Signature from (...) So nothing about verbose GPG output. I also see another error, where Mutt displays an empty line between the (correct) GPG output and the marker: '[-- Ende der PGP-Ausgabe --]' and won't verify the mail. Is this the one you see? Thorsten -- Question Authority!
Re: Wrong Signature with GPG - gpg.rc
Hi, * Thorsten Haude [02-07-11 23:25:41 +0200] wrote: * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 22:29]: * Thorsten Haude [02-07-11 22:10:53 +0200] wrote: * Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02-07-11 21:33]: A lot of the mails i have problems with are form David (no GMX). I checked some others with the same problem, also no GMX. To clear things up: GMX on the receiving and not on the sending side. I sure tried to follow that thread but David's mails are much harder to read than the others. Because of the quoting? ;-) His tips entirely dealed with GPG. I can look it up and tell you the message-id. Yup, the quoting. I read mails by color, and David's are uncolored but much more bumpy than the average tofu mail. You can easily add '%' to the list of known quoting character to make his mails colored, too. No. I just stoped mutt reporting about the verification. The GPG output I see is verbose enough, IMO. I think we are talking about two different things here. Not really, see below. What I see is this: [-- PGP output follows (current time: Don 11 Jul 2002 23:06:04 CEST) --] gpg: Warnung: Sensible Daten könnten auf Platte ausgelagert werden. gpg: Unterschrift vom Son 09 Jun 2002 19:12:09 CEST, DSA Schlüssel ID 7B9F4700 gpg: FALSCHE Unterschrift von David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [-- Ende der PGP-Ausgabe --] Same here (in English, of course). After repairing what GMX broke I don't get any of these anymore. What I still have is that GPG says it's okay while mutt claims it isn't. I can't see how this could happen (according to the documented GPG return codes). It would be really interesting to compare the raw message of one you can't verify to one somebody else can. So nothing about verbose GPG output. With 'verbose' I mean what we get. S/MIME produces only a one-liner. What would be verbose the way you think of? bye, Rocco
Re: Wrong Signature with GPG - gpg.rc
* Thorsten Haude [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-07-11 23:24 +0200]: A lot of the mails i have problems with are form David (no GMX). IIRC, the last time a thread came up where people were having problems in David's emails not verifying, the problem was traced to an MTA that was improperly quoting/unquoting the leading dots in his attribution line. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] / DNRC / UMBC-LUG: http://lug.umbc.edu PGP: ID: D8C75CF5 print: 0A7D B3AD 2D10 1099 7649 AB64 04C2 05A6 --- -- Lennier, get us the hell out of here. Initiating 'getting the hell out of here' maneuver. -- Ivanova and Lennier (Babylon 5, The Hour of the Wolf) --- --
Re: Mutt 1.3.28 internal pager, Screen 3.09.11: right-padded spaces
Quoting Thomas Dickey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): but what does infocmp show? (screen's terminfo normally doesn't say bce) Thanks for asking. This is from one of the screen sessions, of course: [rick@uncle-enzo] ~ $ infocmp # Reconstructed via infocmp from file: /etc/terminfo/s/screen screen|VT 100/ANSI X3.64 virtual terminal, am, km, mir, msgr, xenl, colors#8, cols#80, it#8, lines#24, pairs#64, acsc=++\,\,--..00II``aaffgghhjjkkllmmnnooppqqrrssttuuvvwwxxyyzz{{||}}~~, bel=^G, blink=\E[5m, bold=\E[1m, cbt=\E[Z, civis=\E[?25l, clear=\E[H\E[J, cnorm=\E[34h\E[?25h, cr=^M, csr=\E[%i%p1%d;%p2%dr, cub=\E[%p1%dD, cub1=^H, cud=\E[%p1%dB, cud1=^J, cuf=\E[%p1%dC, cuf1=\E[C, cup=\E[%i%p1%d;%p2%dH, cuu=\E[%p1%dA, cuu1=\EM, cvvis=\E[34l, dch=\E[%p1%dP, dch1=\E[P, dl=\E[%p1%dM, dl1=\E[M, ed=\E[J, el=\E[K, el1=\E[1K, enacs=\E(B\E)0, flash=\Eg, home=\E[H, ht=^I, hts=\EH, ich=\E[%p1%d@, il=\E[%p1%dL, il1=\E[L, ind=^J, is2=\E)0, kbs=\177, kcub1=\EOD, kcud1=\EOB, kcuf1=\EOC, kcuu1=\EOA, kdch1=\E[3~, kend=\E[4~, kf1=\EOP, kf10=\E[21~, kf11=\E[23~, kf12=\E[24~, kf2=\EOQ, kf3=\EOR, kf4=\EOS, kf5=\E[15~, kf6=\E[17~, kf7=\E[18~, kf8=\E[19~, kf9=\E[20~, khome=\E[1~, kich1=\E[2~, knp=\E[6~, kpp=\E[5~, nel=\EE, op=\E[39;49m, rc=\E8, rev=\E[7m, ri=\EM, rmacs=^O, rmir=\E[4l, rmkx=\E[?1l\E, rmso=\E[23m, rmul=\E[24m, rs2=\Ec, sc=\E7, setab=\E[4%p1%dm, setaf=\E[3%p1%dm, sgr0=\E[m, smacs=^N, smir=\E[4h, smkx=\E[?1h\E=, smso=\E[3m, smul=\E[4m, tbc=\E[3g, [rick@uncle-enzo] ~ $ The syndrome showed up _before_ I started trying to use BCE, at the time of a mutt upgrade a year or do ago. -- Cheers,There are only 10 types of people in this world -- Rick Moen those who understand binary arithmetic and those who don't. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Mutt 1.3.28 internal pager, Screen 3.09.11: right-padded spaces
Quoting Thomas Dickey ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): [my infocmp output snipped] ...and no bce. Recent versions of screen allow you to set bce in its configuration, but you have to install a terminfo entry for screen which adds 'bce', so it will work properly. I fear we might be trying to solve the wrong problem, here. You see, I've only had defbce on in /etc/screenrc and the aforementioned ~/.terminfo/s/screen entry (symlinked to /usr/share/terminfo/s/screen-bce ) to inform screen that the terminal supports BCE for _two days_, and the symptom appeared a year or so ago. Ordinarily, I'm very careful not to introduce more variables into a diagnostic situation: I chanced enabling Background Color Erase support two days ago only because I kept careful track of those steps, so I could reverse them. Which I've just done: I commented out defbce on in /etc/screenrc, removed ~/.terminfo/ , terminated screen, and restarted it. Running infocmp again (under screen), one now sees: :r! infocmp # Reconstructed via infocmp from file: /etc/terminfo/s/screen screen|VT 100/ANSI X3.64 virtual terminal, am, km, mir, msgr, xenl, colors#8, cols#80, it#8, lines#24, pairs#64, acsc=++\,\,--..00II``aaffgghhjjkkllmmnnooppqqrrssttuuvvwwxxyyzz{{||}}~~, bel=^G, blink=\E[5m, bold=\E[1m, cbt=\E[Z, civis=\E[?25l, clear=\E[H\E[J, cnorm=\E[34h\E[?25h, cr=^M, csr=\E[%i%p1%d;%p2%dr, cub=\E[%p1%dD, cub1=^H, cud=\E[%p1%dB, cud1=^J, cuf=\E[%p1%dC, cuf1=\E[C, cup=\E[%i%p1%d;%p2%dH, cuu=\E[%p1%dA, cuu1=\EM, cvvis=\E[34l, dch=\E[%p1%dP, dch1=\E[P, dl=\E[%p1%dM, dl1=\E[M, ed=\E[J, el=\E[K, el1=\E[1K, enacs=\E(B\E)0, flash=\Eg, home=\E[H, ht=^I, hts=\EH, ich=\E[%p1%d@, il=\E[%p1%dL, il1=\E[L, ind=^J, is2=\E)0, kbs=\177, kcub1=\EOD, kcud1=\EOB, kcuf1=\EOC, kcuu1=\EOA, kdch1=\E[3~, kend=\E[4~, kf1=\EOP, kf10=\E[21~, kf11=\E[23~, kf12=\E[24~, kf2=\EOQ, kf3=\EOR, kf4=\EOS, kf5=\E[15~, kf6=\E[17~, kf7=\E[18~, kf8=\E[19~, kf9=\E[20~, khome=\E[1~, kich1=\E[2~, knp=\E[6~, kpp=\E[5~, nel=\EE, op=\E[39;49m, rc=\E8, rev=\E[7m, ri=\EM, rmacs=^O, rmir=\E[4l, rmkx=\E[?1l\E, rmso=\E[23m, rmul=\E[24m, rs2=\Ec, sc=\E7, setab=\E[4%p1%dm, setaf=\E[3%p1%dm, sgr0=\E[m, smacs=^N, smir=\E[4h, smkx=\E[?1h\E=, smso=\E[3m, smul=\E[4m, tbc=\E[3g, :r! echo $TERM screen As an extra datum, in case it helps, I've seen this symptom while ssh'ed in from a large variety of X11 workstations, so the problem seems specific to the server end (the host where screen and mutt run). Rather than post them (since they're long), I've tarred up my current ~/.muttrc and /etc/screenrc, as http://linuxmafia.com/~rick/screen-mutt.tar.gz . There is no ~/.screenrc for my login. -- Cheers,There are only 10 types of people in this world -- Rick Moen those who understand binary arithmetic and those who don't. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
newbie question on binding
i am currently running Mutt 1.4i (2002-05-29) on mandrake 8.2, with a muttrc created with the automated muttrc builder (http://mutt.netliberte.org/). When i am reading a message, in the pager if i am not mistaken, and i want to scroll up to the previous line i cannot using either the backspace key or the key which if i look in the help they are BOTH defined as previous-line. I have tried actually binding the keys while i am in mutt with the command :bind pager backspace previous-line the command doesnt return any errors but again it still doesnt work. I have tried setting it in my muttrc and that doesnt work either. Can anyone give me some insight on this? i have been lurking on the list for a little while and have seen nothing about this. Thanks in advance. -- rich
Re: replying to and quoting an HTML attachment
On Thu, Jul 11, 2002 at 09:44:53AM -0700, Gary Johnson wrote: : : On Wed, Jul 10, 2002 at 06:44:46PM -0700, Eugene Lee wrote: : : Now if I can only figure out how to keep both entries and get Mutt to : let me select between the two methods... : : You can. Just put them in you mailcap in this order: : : text/html; links %s; nametemplate=%s.html : text/html; links -dump %s; nametemplate=%s.html; copiousoutput Ahhh. At one time, I did have both entries, but in reversed order. : This is covered in the mutt manual in the section on Search Order : (5.3.3.2) under Advanced mailcap Usage (5.3.3). Another Ahhh. I think I got hung up on this line in the manual: When searching for an entry in the mailcap file, Mutt will search for the most useful entry for its purpose. Mucho thanks! -- Eugene Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED]