Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-31 Thread John Long
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 23:47:38 +1300 martin f krafft wrote: > Regarding the following, written by "John Long" on 2019-10-31 at > 10:30 Uhr +: > >1. Commonly done != standard. There are standards for things like > >MIME, POP3, IMAP etc. I'm not aware of ANSI, ISO

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-31 Thread John Long
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 23:49:37 +1300 martin f krafft wrote: > Regarding the following, written by "John Long" on 2019-10-31 at > 10:17 Uhr +: > >> The approach Kevin proposed is completely HTML-agnostic and leaves > >> it up to the user to provide an externa

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-31 Thread John Long
On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 16:29:31 -0500 Derek Martin wrote: > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 11:29:31AM +0000, John Long wrote: > > > I don’t think this is about right and wrong, and not only because > > > there is no objectivity. multipart/alternative is an accepted > > >

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-31 Thread John Long
On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 15:49:05 -0500 Derek Martin wrote: > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 11:31:21AM +0000, John Long wrote: > > That doesn't really help. From my point the issue is not only what I > > have to configure or what can be configured, but also how much code > > is behind

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-31 Thread John Long
On Thu, 31 Oct 2019 09:29:23 +1300 martin f krafft wrote: > Regarding the following, written by “John Long” on 2019-10-30 at > 11:31 Uhr +: > > > > From my point the issue is not only what I have to configure or > > what can be configured, but also how m

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-30 Thread John Long
On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 07:53:30 -0700 Sean Greenslade wrote: > Of course there's massive selection bias in this list. No question > about that. I just wanted to point out that there definitely are some > younger Mutters out there. Though I tend to fall more on the grumpy > about HTML mails side of

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-30 Thread John Long
On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 23:37:43 +1300 martin f krafft wrote: > Regarding the following, written by “Nuno Silva” on 2019-10-30 at > 09:21 Uhr +: > > > > There are users who don’t need text/html. It’s okay to want some > > way to use HTML for e-mail in mutt, but I’d say it’s not okay to > > say

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-30 Thread John Long
On Wed, 30 Oct 2019 23:53:40 +1300 martin f krafft wrote: > Regarding the following, written by “Dave Woodfall” on 2019-10-30 at > 10:05 Uhr +: > > > > I don’t think embracing wrong email practices is the way forward. > > I don’t think this is about right and wrong, and not only because >

Re: Creating HTML emails with mutt

2019-10-29 Thread John Long
On Tue, 29 Oct 2019 14:50:05 -0400 Patrick Shanahan wrote: > * Grant Edwards [10-29-19 13:10]: > > On 2019-10-28, Matthias Apitz wrote: > > > El día lunes, octubre 28, 2019 a las 04:50:40p. m. -0500, Derek > > > Martin escribió: > > >> > FWIW, I (as a mutt user for 15++ years) do not need

Re: Can I backup MH mail incrementally?

2019-07-29 Thread John Long
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 15:07:40 -0300 Luciano ES wrote: > You don't understand the problem. Sorry, my bad. > Read my initial query again: No, I don't think so. I'm not on your payroll. /jl

Re: Can I backup MH mail incrementally?

2019-07-29 Thread John Long
On Mon, 29 Jul 2019 13:47:34 -0300 Luciano ES wrote: > I want to archive almost all of my email in MH mail boxes to an > external disk. The idea is to free up space in the running disk. > > I thought I could just move ~/Mail to external and start with a new > empty Mail directory, but then I

Re: Using UTC as time zone in outgoing email headers

2019-07-24 Thread John Long
Hi, I don't know the answer because I set all my devices to UTC. But I can suggest it's difficult to find all the places where your time zone is leaked so setting it to UTC or some misc. time zone is probably not a bad idea. /jl On Wed, 24 Jul 2019 07:06:52 + Ryan Smith wrote: > By

Re: order of sending mail and saving to fcc

2019-06-11 Thread John Long
Hi Mutters, I haven't been following the thread but just to reply to a few points with the names of the posters removed in order to focus on content rather than who said what: > > It's not your > > mail client's job to protect you from every conceibable system > > failure which might cause data

Re: Can I do this (should I do this) with Mutt?

2019-05-23 Thread John Long
Thank you for a superb, helpful email Cameron. I'll go over this and a few things posted upthread and come back with questions later. Thanks, /jl On Thu, 23 May 2019 09:56:08 +1000 Cameron Simpson wrote: > On 22May2019 15:03, John Long wrote: > >I have around 10 email accou

Re: Can I do this (should I do this) with Mutt?

2019-05-22 Thread John Long
Ciao Francesco, On Wed, 22 May 2019 17:41:37 +0200 Francesco Ariis wrote: > I have many accounts, a couple of simple hooks like > > folder-hook fa-ml "set from=fa...@ariis.it" How is it used? > > 2. I have around 100,000 emails right now between all my accounts. I > > have one pop

Re: Can I do this (should I do this) with Mutt?

2019-05-22 Thread John Long
On Wed, 22 May 2019 15:40:15 + "Dan Ciprus (dciprus)" wrote: > If you are a mobile user then things are a bit more complex. I have machines in two countries (work and home) and I like to have all the email in both places so I can get to it. I have a subset of the accounts on a phone also.

Can I do this (should I do this) with Mutt?

2019-05-22 Thread John Long
Hi, I've been a casual mutter for around 10 years. I have it working with PGP, S/MIME, all that I need...for one account. The only thing is, I am increasingly dissatisfied with the direction GUI clients are going. I had one I have been using for years and it just keeps getting more and more

Re: [SPAM?] Re: [SPAM?] [OT] How to move mail from Linux to Android?

2016-07-18 Thread John Long
On Mon, Jul 18, 2016 at 08:56:00AM +0200, Matthias Apitz wrote: > El d??a Monday, July 18, 2016 a las 06:05:59AM +0000, John Long escribi??: > > > So I find myself wanting to move several gig of emails from Linux to > > Android. The bulk of it is in MH format although I have a

[SPAM?] [OT] How to move mail from Linux to Android?

2016-07-18 Thread John Long
So I find myself wanting to move several gig of emails from Linux to Android. The bulk of it is in MH format although I have a few mutt instances using maildir. I figure there is probably a ton of email savvy on this list, can anybody give me an idea how I can accomplish this? I haven't picked

Re: mutt 1.6.0 released

2016-04-05 Thread John Long
Kevin, Congrats to you and all the mutt developers and community. In all honesty mutt is one of the least buggy pieces of open source software I have used. I don't ever remembering having a problem with it. I'm reluctant to upgrade and probably won't. :-) /jl P.S. Sorry, this should not have

Re: leaking timezone

2016-03-23 Thread John Long
On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 11:52:12AM +0100, bastian-muttu...@t6l.de wrote: > On 22Mar16 08:40 +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > > >>TZ=UTC mutt > > >Thank you! A most elegant quick solution! > > > > On the othe hand, I do not think mutt makes the header. > > The input to my sendmail= script lists a

Re: leaking timezone

2016-03-23 Thread John Long
On Tue, Mar 22, 2016 at 08:40:21AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: > On the othe hand, I do not think mutt makes the header. I'm in > compose mode right now with headers and the Date: header is not > there. Aside from the Received: header that was already mentioned upthread, Mutt can add headers

Re: Using mixmaster

2016-02-17 Thread John Long
On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 05:01:05AM +, Jeffery Small wrote: > John: > > Thanks you for all the great information. You're welcome. Crypto is interesting and very practical. But don't get too interested. Most of the mixmaster developers and several key cryptographers have all died mysterious

Re: Using mixmaster

2016-02-15 Thread John Long
On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 08:32:18PM -0800, Jeffery Small wrote: > > I just installed mixmaster on my Ubuntu 15.10 system and am trying it out. > I have a question. The mutt manual says: > > "To use it [i.e., mixmaster], you'll have to obey certain restrictions. > Most important, you cannot use

Re: mutt S/MIME

2015-04-30 Thread John Long
On Wed, Apr 29, 2015 at 07:33:01PM +0200, Thomas Klausner wrote: Is there a way to configure mutt in such a way that I can read mails encrypted using my old key and ones encrypted using my current key in the same session? Expired x.509 keys are one of the true pains in the ass of email

Re: Can Mutt detect a missing header?

2014-12-21 Thread John Long
On Sat, Dec 20, 2014 at 10:19:27PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 08:18:50AM +, John Long wrote: Many MTAs will add one if it's not present (in Postfix, this is determined by $always_add_missing_headers). I understand that but these are spammers who seem

Re: Can Mutt detect a missing header?

2014-12-20 Thread John Long
On Fri, Dec 19, 2014 at 10:51:11AM +, Koralatov wrote: * John Long wrote on 2014-12-19 08:18 +: Many MTAs will add one if it's not present (in Postfix, this is determined by $always_add_missing_headers). I understand that but these are spammers who seem to be stupid and are trying

Re: Can Mutt detect a missing header?

2014-12-19 Thread John Long
On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 10:14:29AM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 08:53:03AM +, John Long wrote: In the ongoing battle against spammers the latest trick is them not including a message-id header at all. Is there a recipe for Mutt to detect this and score

Re: How do I kill these posts?

2014-12-18 Thread John Long
Thanks, I'll look at this. On Wed, Dec 17, 2014 at 07:08:54AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 16Dec2014 07:56, John Long codeb...@inbox.lv wrote: I have no problem scoring From: on mailing lists except with Yahoo. I have to believe the way they mangle the header has something to do

Can Mutt detect a missing header?

2014-12-18 Thread John Long
In the ongoing battle against spammers the latest trick is them not including a message-id header at all. Is there a recipe for Mutt to detect this and score accordingly? Going over the doc and searching the web I haven't had any luck finding any discussion on this. Thanks. /jl -- ASCII

Re: How do I kill these posts?

2014-12-16 Thread John Long
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 04:37:40AM +0100, Francesco Ariis wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 02:28:29PM -0600, David Champion wrote: Francesco is right, this should work. ~f a@b will match a@b whether it's the actual address or inside the name portion. [..] So ~e em...@example.net won't

Re: How do I kill these posts?

2014-12-16 Thread John Long
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 09:56:07PM +0100, Jostein Berntsen wrote: On 15.12.14,16:08, John Long wrote: Yahoogroups mangles the From: headers badly and Mutt doesn't seem to want to listen to me when I tell him to score using ~f or ~e. Is there a (better) way to score this? Here

How do I kill these posts?

2014-12-15 Thread John Long
Yahoogroups mangles the From: headers badly and Mutt doesn't seem to want to listen to me when I tell him to score using ~f or ~e. Is there a (better) way to score this? Here is a sample From: header From: phoney bologna bolognapho...@hotmail.com [bademails] badema...@yahoogroups.com score

Re: How do I kill these posts?

2014-12-15 Thread John Long
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 05:56:02PM +0100, Jostein Berntsen wrote: On 15.12.14,16:08, John Long wrote: Yahoogroups mangles the From: headers badly and Mutt doesn't seem to want to listen to me when I tell him to score using ~f or ~e. Is there a (better) way to score this? Here

Re: How do I kill these posts?

2014-12-15 Thread John Long
Hi, On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 06:29:43PM +0100, Francesco Ariis wrote: ~f does work on my machine (Tested with limit~f t...@example.org /and/ with 'score'). The From header (yahoo group) looks similar to yours: It's not similar enough: From: t...@example.com [abcusers]

Re: How do I kill these posts?

2014-12-15 Thread John Long
Hi, On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 03:02:45PM -0500, Mark Filipak wrote: From: \S+\s+\S+\s+[^@]+@hotmail\.com \[[^\]]+\] [^@]+@yahoogroups\.com Kindly forgive me if this is totally off the wall. Thanks for offering help on the regex. The issue with Mutt is you can't match against the exact part of

Re: How do I kill these posts?

2014-12-15 Thread John Long
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 02:28:29PM -0600, David Champion wrote: * On 15 Dec 2014, John Long wrote: Hi, On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 06:29:43PM +0100, Francesco Ariis wrote: ~f does work on my machine (Tested with limit~f t...@example.org /and/ with 'score'). The From header (yahoo

Re: Stupid regexp tricks

2014-12-10 Thread John Long
Hi, On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 05:08:22PM -0600, David Champion wrote: * On 09 Dec 2014, John Long wrote: The messages seem to all have message-ids in the form bunchofch...@m.something.com You'll need to be much more specific if you want help writing a matching regex. Is something

Re: Stupid regexp tricks

2014-12-10 Thread John Long
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 04:17:00PM -0500, Nathan Stratton Treadway wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 20:39:16 +, John Long wrote: score '~i @m\..*\.com' - matches on Message-ID: 5486ad9f.8186460a.0aee.1...@mx.google.com You want the actual regex to contain

Re: Stupid regexp tricks

2014-12-10 Thread John Long
On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 06:50:30AM -0600, David Champion wrote: OK, I see what I'm missing now: it's the m vs mx. You're right, getting the regex right for this one will be enough -- for now. But it turns out that more than one site uses m.*.com hostnames, so you'll be back in this position

Re: Stupid regexp tricks

2014-12-10 Thread John Long
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 04:28:53PM -0500, Nathan Stratton Treadway wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 16:17:00 -0500, Nathan Stratton Treadway wrote: but mutt also processes backslashes when it is parsing the command line defining the expresion -- so you may need to quote the backslashes.

Re: Stupid regexp tricks

2014-12-09 Thread John Long
Thank you I will try this. Waiting for new spam to show up. In your RE expression you have two literal periods (m. and .com) plus one meta-period (.*). One of the literal periods is escaped (\.com) the other is not. Both literal periods should be the same (escaped or not escaped) and the

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread John Long
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:33:05AM +, Chris Green wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 06:21:31PM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 08Dec2014 22:04, Chris Green c...@isbd.net wrote: Doesn't anyone use IMAP? I must admit when I tried it (a few times over the years, but not very recently) it

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread John Long
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:11:53AM +, Chris Green wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 07:07:10AM +, John Long wrote: I don't see how IMAP helps. What exactly is the difference in terms of how you read mail and where the apps run as opposed to POP? The only thing IMAP does

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread John Long
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 11:36:48AM +, Chris Green wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 10:56:04AM +, John Long wrote: If I understood you then yes, but the local machine as far as mutt is concerned is the machine where mutt is running [your remote system], not where you are running

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-09 Thread John Long
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 11:42:49AM +, Chris Green wrote: If we all misunderstood and you have multiple instances of mutt running and want to be able to access your mail from any of them then use POP and leave the email on the server. Are you forced to use IMAP? I currently read my

Re: Stupid regexp tricks

2014-12-09 Thread John Long
On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 02:54:59AM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 07:15:13AM +, John Long wrote: In your RE expression you have two literal periods (m. and .com) plus one meta-period (.*). One of the literal periods is escaped (\.com) the other is not. Both literal

Re: Stupid regexp tricks

2014-12-09 Thread John Long
Hi, answers within On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 02:53:50PM -0600, David Champion wrote: * On 09 Dec 2014, John Long wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 02:54:59AM -0500, Jon LaBadie wrote: On Tue, Dec 09, 2014 at 07:15:13AM +, John Long wrote: In your RE expression you have two literal

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-08 Thread John Long
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 03:19:55PM +, Chris Green wrote: I have been using mutt for many, many years with a local (Unix style) mail spool. Mail is delivered to my system by SMTP (postfix locally). At the moment to access my mail remotely I ssh into the server and run mutt. I suspect

Re: Some fairly simple-minded questions about using mutt with IMAP

2014-12-08 Thread John Long
On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 09:59:17PM +, Chris Green wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 06:33:40PM +, John Long wrote: On Mon, Dec 08, 2014 at 03:19:55PM +, Chris Green wrote: I have been using mutt for many, many years with a local (Unix style) mail spool. Mail is delivered to my

Stupid regexp tricks

2014-12-08 Thread John Long
The pron spammers are at it again on a bunch of email lists I subscribe to. I noticed most if not all of this reprehensible lot is using mail hosts that use email addresses and also generate a message-id in the form of Obnoxious Spammer id...@m.something.com I have tried a few combinations but

Re: GnuPG error when signing outgoing mail

2014-11-30 Thread John Long
fixed up with Mutt and gpg here on this list. On Sun, Nov 30, 2014 at 12:58 AM, John Long codeb...@inbox.lv wrote: On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 09:10:16PM -0500, Gilles-Philippe Morin wrote: I'm using Arch Linux ARM on a Raspberry Pi. Version: 1.5.23-1 GnuPG: 2.1.0-6 When I sign ('p

Re: GnuPG error when signing outgoing mail

2014-11-29 Thread John Long
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 09:10:16PM -0500, Gilles-Philippe Morin wrote: I'm using Arch Linux ARM on a Raspberry Pi. Version: 1.5.23-1 GnuPG: 2.1.0-6 When I sign ('p' then 'a') an email, then send (y) the email, mutt asks for my PGP passphrase. After I enter it, I get this output in the

Re: sending to fastmail with mutt

2014-11-19 Thread John Long
On Tue, Nov 18, 2014 at 09:06:24PM -0800, Tom Fowle wrote: Havn't been able to send mail through fastmail.fm from mutt for a year, Just double checking that at one point you were? This only works for paid accounts according to this page

Re: mutt/vim line wrap configuration

2014-11-19 Thread John Long
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 03:15:15PM -0500, Dale wrote: read in the docs and on google this line in my ~/.slrnrc set editor=vim +':set textwidth=0' +':set wrapmargin=0' +':set wrap' seems to wraps when I type or copy/paste into vim Problem solved! but when I read the message, Mutt has a

Re: mutt/vim line wrap configuration

2014-11-19 Thread John Long
On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 04:26:43PM -0500, Dale wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 08:34:15PM +, John Long wrote: On Wed, Nov 19, 2014 at 03:15:15PM -0500, Dale wrote: read in the docs and on google this line in my ~/.slrnrc set editor=vim +':set textwidth=0' +':set wrapmargin=0

Re: POP? (read some docs first)

2014-11-11 Thread John Long
On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 08:41:05PM -0600, Russell Harris wrote: On Mon, November 10, 2014 5:29 pm, DaleKelly wrote: On 11/10/2014 05:58 PM, DaleKelly wrote: Login failed. Command USER is not supported by server. APOP authentication failed. Where is this coming out? Only on debug

Re: Now Pop...

2014-11-11 Thread John Long
Why use an MTA when Mutt can do SMTP? This is way simpler than the alternatives. Just lett mutt do it all! i'm halfway there (i can get things from my ISP, but i haven't figured out exim4 to my ISP connection yet). Totally unnecessary unless you feel like being a mail server admin in

Re: trying repository mutt again

2014-11-09 Thread John Long
Stepping into the quicksand again for no good reason: On Sat, Nov 08, 2014 at 11:59:47PM -0500, DaleKelly wrote: echo Test | /usr/bin/mutt -s Hello d...@dalekelly.org Error in /etc/Muttrc, line 145: smtp_user: unknown variable source: errors in /etc/Muttrc Weird. Very weird. set from =

Re: trying repository mutt again

2014-11-09 Thread John Long
On Sun, Nov 09, 2014 at 09:40:58AM +0100, John Niendorf wrote: Having said that, it appears after searching the web that many many people have trouble sending mail with a GoDaddy account. Specifically, authentication seems to be problematic. Didn't look at the google reference but the first

Re: pop(s),smtp(s)

2014-11-04 Thread John Long
On Mon, Nov 03, 2014 at 08:40:57PM -0500, DaleKelly wrote: On 11/03/2014 05:18 PM, Grant Edwards wrote: You'll need to re-do the configure, build, install steps: [cd to mutt source directory] $ ./configure --enable-smtp $ make $ sudo make install previous errors are gone, but it now

Re: do I need both SSL and SASL?

2014-11-04 Thread John Long
On Tue, Nov 04, 2014 at 12:45:37AM -0500, DaleKelly wrote: for SMTPs and POPs? Maybe. SASL is a wrapper so that your email client can present your login credentials to your email server using encryption. Loosely (no pun intended) SSL is a wrapper around the emails your client sends so that only

Re: pop(s),smtp(s)

2014-11-03 Thread John Long
On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 07:28:06PM -0500, DaleKelly wrote: On 11/02/2014 06:53 PM, John Niendorf wrote: Dale, For what it is worth I have this in my .muttrc file and I am able to send and receive securly to my server. I am using muttrc rather than .muttrc so you should check for both files.

Re: message line in black with black background

2014-09-03 Thread John Long
On Wed, Sep 03, 2014 at 05:32:20PM +0100, Moss wrote: Sorry delete my last post. Your colours should be set in ~/.muttrc man muttrc and search for color by doing /color and the first hit you should get is color object foreground background [regexp] which is the format of the color command

Re: Mutt slow to respond?

2013-06-24 Thread John Long
Since nobody said anything yet, it seems like this is related to IMAP and Mutt's design. I use POP when possible since it doesn't query the server until you tell it to. You won't see new messages that way but it also doesn't get affected by the speed of the IMAP server and the connection until

Re: The etiquette of RTFM (Re: I have forgotten ...)

2013-06-23 Thread John Long
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 05:58:16PM -0500, Derek Martin wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 09:51:13AM -0500, Dale A. Raby wrote: On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 08:35:25AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: I really don't need to be told RTFM. I am 80 yrs old. I forget things. [I think people should

Re: I have forgotten ...

2013-06-20 Thread John Long
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 08:35:25AM -0600, Paul E Condon wrote: I am having a mental block, and cannot remember how to wrap text in Emacs while composing an email. Specifically, I need help remembering what key, or keys, should be pressed after selecting a region of text to get that region

Re: build problems on Solaris 8

2013-02-09 Thread John Long
On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 04:46:28PM -0800, Will Yardley wrote: On Fri, Feb 08, 2013 at 05:30:03PM -0700, s. keeling wrote: Incoming from Michael Elkins: FYI, there are nightly snapshots here http://dev.mutt.org/nightlies/ which avoid the need to have the developer toolchain installed.

Retrieve POP mail automatically?

2012-12-16 Thread John Long
Is there any way to retrieve pop mail automatically in mutt itself rather than using fetchmail etc.? Thanks. /jl -- ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) Powered by Lemote Fuloong against HTML e-mail X Loongson MIPS and OpenBSD and proprietary/ \http://www.mutt.org attachments /

Re: Retrieve POP mail automatically?

2012-12-16 Thread John Long
On Sun, Dec 16, 2012 at 11:37:29AM -0600, Dale Raby wrote: On 12/16/2012 10:37 AM, John Long wrote: Is there any way to retrieve pop mail automatically in mutt itself rather than using fetchmail etc.? Thanks. /jl The short answer is yes. The long answer is, maybe, if your

Re: Retrieve POP mail automatically?

2012-12-16 Thread John Long
Dale wrote: http://www.mutt.org/doc/manual/manual-4.html Item 4.10 I think the item you want is the pop_checkinterval variable The default is 60 seconds Thanks I just tried that after I posted my previous response. It doesn't work either (but it sure looked like it should!)

Re: Mutt locking up, how to trace?

2012-11-25 Thread John Long
Understood, thanks again. On Sun, Nov 25, 2012 at 09:37:47AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 24Nov2012 19:12, John Long codeb...@inbox.lv wrote: | On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 09:15:27AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: | Some things are timing dependent, and strace does affect things; | | I

Re: Mutt locking up, how to trace?

2012-11-24 Thread John Long
On Sat, Nov 24, 2012 at 09:15:27AM +1100, Cameron Simpson wrote: On 23Nov2012 10:42, John Long codeb...@inbox.lv wrote: | On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:40:33PM +0100, Richard wrote: | On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 06:42:27PM +, John Long wrote: | My mutt on Linux has been locking up lately. I

Re: Mutt locking up, how to trace?

2012-11-23 Thread John Long
On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 11:40:33PM +0100, Richard wrote: On Thu, Nov 22, 2012 at 06:42:27PM +, John Long wrote: My mutt on Linux has been locking up lately. I didn't compile it with debug support. Is there any way to figure out why this is happening? I sometimes lock up in the middle

Mutt locking up, how to trace?

2012-11-22 Thread John Long
My mutt on Linux has been locking up lately. I didn't compile it with debug support. Is there any way to figure out why this is happening? I sometimes lock up in the middle of composing a long email or when mutt has been open for awhile. This didn't happen until this week and I suspect my email

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-20 Thread John Long
I wasn't going to post in this thread but... On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 04:16:44PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: On 2012-11-20, Chris Bannister cbannis...@slingshot.co.nz wrote: Ouch! Could you please set the line wrap value in your editor to a sane value? 72 characters seems to be the

Re: Please set your line wrap to a sane value (was ... Re: Is there any gmane.org user in the list?)

2012-11-20 Thread John Long
On Tue, Nov 20, 2012 at 06:24:49PM +, Tony's unattended mail wrote: On 2012-11-20, John Long codeb...@inbox.lv wrote: Conventions are good, but only when they cater to those with *good* tools. When a convention caters to compensate for poorly designed tools, and then cause difficultly

score on X-Mailer?

2012-08-27 Thread John Long
Can somebody explain if/how I can score on X-Mailer? There's a new spamming bastard on the block (mybizmailer.com) and it's hitting many tech lists. I'd like to score on X-Mailer: mybizmail but I'm missing something. I tried score '~h X-Mailer: mybizmail' -1000 but I get an error when I source

Stupid reply tricks

2012-08-12 Thread John Long
I am sorry to have to ask this but I don't understand why I get a prompt when replying to messages with set fast_reply=yes is set in muttrc. Isn't this supposed to just open the editor without prompting you? Instead I get a message Reply to so-and-so? Like what's the big deal if it actually

Re: Stupid reply tricks

2012-08-12 Thread John Long
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:13:31AM -0400, David Haguenauer wrote: Hi John, Hi David thanks for your mail. I get a message Reply to so-and-so? It looks like you want the `reply_to' quadoption set to `yes' or `no' rather than the default `ask-yes': I will try that but I can't figure out

Re: Stupid reply tricks

2012-08-12 Thread John Long
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:39:17AM -0400, Patrick Shanahan wrote: * John Long codeb...@inbox.lv [08-12-12 10:24]: On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 10:13:31AM -0400, David Haguenauer wrote: I get a message Reply to so-and-so? It looks like you want the `reply_to' quadoption set to `yes

Re: Killfiling, anyone?

2012-08-10 Thread John Long
Thanks a lot for your post, David. I'll look it over. Some good ideas in there! -- ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) Powered by Lemote Fuloong against HTML e-mail X Loongson MIPS and OpenBSD and proprietary/ \http://www.mutt.org attachmentsCode Blue or Go Home!

Re: Killfiling, anyone?

2012-07-27 Thread John Long
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:23:14PM +0200, Christian Brabandt wrote: Hi John! Hello Christian! Christian, your idea is working pretty good so far but I didn't figure out how to source the script by binding it to a key. Is that possible somehow? I am afraid I don't understand. What doesn't

Re: Killfiling, anyone?

2012-07-27 Thread John Long
I am afraid I don't understand. What doesn't work? Following up to myself... It seems sourcing the score file works even when new emails are received. Sorry I didn't test this properly before asking. I was just sourcing manually. Adding it to the startup seems to work fine. Thanks for the

Re: alias

2012-07-27 Thread John Long
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 01:57:02PM +0200, SK wrote: Maybe I don't know enough about tmux (nor screen). How do you get to the mail server/mutt program? Through a ssh session? How do you visualize attachments? Do you use the -X option of ssh? Does tmux offer a tools for connecting to the

Re: alias

2012-07-27 Thread John Long
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 08:22:20AM -0500, Luis Mochan wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 12:06:00PM +, John Long wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 01:57:02PM +0200, SK wrote: ... I too have this problem. I use SSH to connect to a remote server and run mutt inside a tmux session, But I

Re: alias

2012-07-27 Thread John Long
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 02:18:59PM +, John Long wrote: On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 08:22:20AM -0500, Luis Mochan wrote: Maybe this is a dumb question: as we can use IMAP to access remote mailboxes, could we also use it to access other remote files with configuration commands and 'source

Re: alias

2012-07-27 Thread John Long
On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 10:20:16AM -0500, Luis Mochan wrote: Thanks everybody for their answers and suggestions. I have tried X forwarding, but sometimes it is too slow (my network's fault, I believe), so I guess I'll just keep my separate configuration files in sync. Hi Luis, If you are

Re: Killfiling, anyone?

2012-07-26 Thread John Long
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 08:53:03PM +0200, Christian Brabandt wrote: Hi John! Hello! :) I used to have a little shell-script, that was killfiling within mutt for me (attached). It simply generates a pattern, that can be used by mutt to delete messages by scoring. I like what you did here

Re: Killfiling, anyone?

2012-07-26 Thread John Long
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:55:25AM +0200, Christian Brabandt wrote: On Thu, July 26, 2012 11:38, John Long wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 08:53:03PM +0200, Christian Brabandt wrote: Hi John! Hello! :) I used to have a little shell-script, that was killfiling within mutt for me

Re: Killfiling, anyone?

2012-07-26 Thread John Long
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 08:53:03PM +0200, Christian Brabandt wrote: Additionally, I needed to set up scoring for mutt like this: Christian, your idea is working pretty good so far but I didn't figure out how to source the script by binding it to a key. Is that possible somehow? -- ASCII

Killfiling, anyone?

2012-07-25 Thread John Long
Guys, what are you using for killfiling/mail filtering? I am using Mutt's built in POP and SMTP at this point, is there any way to killfile emails based on header contents? Scoring won't be enough, I want to delete this crap as the email is being downloaded from my mail provider. I am not

Re: Killfiling, anyone?

2012-07-25 Thread John Long
That's three votes for procmail. I guess I will have to look into it! Thanks everybody. -- ASCII ribbon campaign ( ) Powered by Lemote Fuloong against HTML e-mail X Loongson MIPS and OpenBSD and proprietary/ \http://www.mutt.org attachmentsCode Blue or Go Home!

Re: Thank you for Mutt

2012-07-25 Thread John Long
On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 04:33:13AM -0500, Jim Graham wrote: On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 04:17:59AM -0500, Jim Graham wrote: On one list I'm on (the Chile-Heads list, fwiw), from time to time the topic of replying to the list will come up, and the fact that most have to do a reply-all to reply to

Thank you for Mutt

2012-07-24 Thread John Long
I used Mutt stable years ago and for whatever reasons, too many email accounts I guess, I got away from it. Using the development version recently has been such a pleasure. Everything works as expected and there are lots of nice features. More than I will ever use. It's perfect when you have a lot

Slrn-like colors

2012-07-18 Thread John Long
There is more work to be done but I have mutt looking pretty similar to the default slrn colors now after help from various people (thank you) and some experimenting. What I haven't been able to accomplish is to color various parts of headers (within the header itself, not between one header and