* David Champion [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-05 00:36]:
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
i once suggested a command which does just that -
send a new mail to the sender of the current mail.
but it was turned down. (noone needs this etc).
macro index M enter-commandset
Hi, all --
Well, I think I have pinned my memory leak problems down to Byrial's
hash_destroy patch; removing that while leaving the rest of the cocktail
patches in not only reduces the huge footprint but in fact seems to
generate a *smaller* mutt than stock version! Go figure...
Byrial, do you
begin quoting what Will Yardley said on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 06:02:59PM -0800:
taking the attitude of i'm right and the rest of the world is wrong
only gets you so far... at least when you're already way outnumbered.
Look where it got the Internet.
Sticking to documented RFCs, instead of
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Thu, Apr 04, 2002 at 09:44:22PM -0700:
ok, i checked the archives and what i found was that people were
talking about dale's p_c_t patch. that does not do what outlook is
expecting w.r.t. attachments.
It does when I use it. What did you put
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:22:19AM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote:
It does when I use it. What did you put in your .muttrc to activate it?
it is my understanding that what is necessary to activate it is the
p_c_t variable which i have set to ask-no because in most cases i want
to do pgp/mime
Peter, et al --
...and then Peter T. Abplanalp said...
%
% On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:22:19AM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote:
%
% It does when I use it. What did you put in your .muttrc to activate it?
I wondered about this the last time but didn't jump in, but since I'm
here now... Peter,
Byrial, et al --
...and then Byrial Jensen said...
%
% On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 08:09:07 -0500, David T-G wrote:
%
% Well, I think I have pinned my memory leak problems down to Byrial's
...
% Byrial, do you hvae any ideas? Please drop me a note if you get this; I
% haven't heard from you
begin quoting what David Collantes said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:07:19AM -0500:
I totally agree with you. _Communicate_, that is the key word.
You signed that with S/MIME, with which OE also has a problem, agreeing
with someone whose position was basically don't use PGP/MIME because
Outlook
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:29:16AM -0700:
it is my understanding that what is necessary to activate it is the
p_c_t variable which i have set to ask-no because in most cases i want
to do pgp/mime but be able to pick traditional for my outlook
begin quoting what David T-G said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:39:42AM -0500:
I wondered about this the last time but didn't jump in, but since I'm
here now... Peter, does $p_c_t work for you for normal messages? I read
you to say that it doesn't work the way outhouse expects for
* Robert Conde [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002.04.04 20:07 -0500]:
Is there anything wrong with hitting F in the compose menu and filtering
the message through the gpg --clearsign command?
Nothing at all. It leaves the other parts untouched though,
which is not (I don't think) desired in this case.
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:39:42AM -0500, David T-G wrote:
I wondered about this the last time but didn't jump in, but since I'm
here now... Peter, does $p_c_t work for you for normal messages? I read
you to say that it doesn't work the way outhouse expects for attachments,
but I think
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:37:33AM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote:
There's a better way, but more on that after we get your problem fixed.
Could you answer yes on a response to the list, so we can see what
you're sending out?
not sure what you mean here. do you want me to send a simple email
Shawn --
...and then Shawn McMahon said...
%
% begin quoting what David T-G said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:39:42AM -0500:
%
% I wondered about this the last time but didn't jump in, but since I'm
% here now... Peter, does $p_c_t work for you for normal messages? I read
% you to say
Peter --
...and then Peter T. Abplanalp said...
%
% On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 10:37:33AM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote:
% There's a better way, but more on that after we get your problem fixed.
% Could you answer yes on a response to the list, so we can see what
% you're sending out?
%
% not
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 08:58:21AM -0700:
that is correct. p_c_t works fine for a simple email message without
any attachments; however, as soon as you add an attachment i think
mutt figures you're gonna send mime anyway so why not do the pgp that
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:01:18AM -0700:
not sure what you mean here. do you want me to send a simple email
from outlook or mutt? if mutt, does this suffice? or do you mean an
inline sig from mutt? or...?
I meant an inline sig from Mutt, but
begin quoting what David T-G said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 11:07:52AM -0500:
So you can send an attachment to an Outlook user and have the whole thing
be signed and that user can happily read and verify both parts.
No. IMHO, Dave shouldn't bother making that work. If you really need to
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 11:10:04AM -0500, David T-G wrote:
He means that he would like for you to send a message in $p_c_t format to
the list for our review. He might even mean that you should send another
with an attachment (hey, why not `mutt -v` and make it useful? :-)
and attempt to turn
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 11:12:05AM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote:
Ah; didn't realize that was the problem you were describing. Yes,
that's a limitation of the patch.
That's what happens when you try to do something that isn't
standardized; different people do it differently.
curses! am i
Hi there!
I am using the latest from the CVS (1.5.0i). Is there a way to have mutt
'spit' out all the possible .muttrc variables? Something like a command line
option, so it will create a .muttrc with all the defaults and/or empty ones?
TIA and cheers,
--
David Collantes -
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 11:15:34AM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote:
No. IMHO, Dave shouldn't bother making that work. If you really need to
send an Outlook user a signed email and a patch, and he has to open both
the email and the patch seperately, well, sometimes Microsoft's
stupidity is
05-Apr-02 at 09:29, Peter T. Abplanalp ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
generally speaking, i'd have to say i agree with you; however, the
people who are using outlook, generally speaking, are not very
technical and sometimes have trouble with anything that requires
knowledge of anything other
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 04:39:17PM +, Simon White wrote:
Isn't that kinda like saying you have a door with 3 locks, but there are
people who can't be bothered to use 3 keys, so you leave one open anyway
so that those people can come into your secure environment with less than
the
* David Collantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-05 16:30]:
I am using the latest from the CVS (1.5.0i). Is there a way
to have mutt 'spit' out all the possible .muttrc variables?
Something like a command line option, so it will create
a .muttrc with all the defaults and/or empty ones?
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 05:05:41PM +, Simon White wrote:
If it dies, it's biology. If it blows up, it's chemistry, and if it
doesn't work, it's physics.
...and if it doesn't work, it's...anyone...anyone...anyone...OUTLOOK!
--
Peter Abplanalp
Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
PGP:
05-Apr-02 at 18:32, Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
Pfeife zerbrochen
Broken pipe, I suppose.
This is nonetheless an interesting issue, since the translation out of
context is correct. And, more to the point, any non technical English
speaker would also be amused if Windows reported
Sven Guckes wrote:
## Trivia: mutt-1.2.5 has some 208 options.
## mutt-1.3.27 now has 249 options.
## mutt-1.3.28 has 249 options, too.
## Check with grep DT_ init.h| grep -v define | sort |less
This is not entirely accurrate unless you grep -v DT_SYN
On 04-05-2002 at 12:14 EST, Michael Elkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Sven Guckes wrote:
## Trivia: mutt-1.2.5 has some 208 options.
## mutt-1.3.27 now has 249 options.
## mutt-1.3.28 has 249 options, too.
## Check with grep DT_ init.h| grep -v define |
Hi,
* Sven Guckes [04/05/02 18:32:12] wrote:
* Rocco Rutte [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-04 19:45]:
I love silly translations. Yesterday I worked
with a german Red Hat-distribution (user elvis):
Gnome created an icon called Heimat von elvis
Why not: Gnome hat eine Ikone
namens 'Heimat
Hi,
* Simon White [04/05/02 19:18:44] wrote:
05-Apr-02 at 18:32, Sven Guckes ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
Pfeife zerbrochen
Broken pipe, I suppose.
Yes.
Just like the dumb lady I was talking to once, who told me she was
airing her room when I told her to close the window.
;-))
Via
05-Apr-02 at 20:37, Rocco Rutte ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote :
Just like the dumb lady I was talking to once, who told me she was
airing her room when I told her to close the window.
;-))
Via telephone? I can image what her face looked like when she was
wondering how the opened window
begin quoting what Peter T. Abplanalp said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 09:29:57AM -0700:
manner. now, as we all know, msft isn't going to fix outlook so if i
want to correspond securly with outlook users, i need to try and
accomodate. PITA but there it is.
Let me see if I get this straight:
Hi,
* David Collantes [04/05/02 19:22:13] wrote:
[ dump config ]
Will this be useful to more people? Is it something worth to ask as a wish?
For me, it will be nice it I could:
$ mutt --dump-vars
And have a .muttrc-full some something dumped on my directory, with all
options and their
Rocco Rutte wrote:
It would make sence. Even more usefull was a feature which Postfix has:
dump all configuration variables which are not default.
I can image it would make it easier to track errors by misconfiguration
down.
i was actually going to suggest this a long time ago, but
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 01:46:15PM -0500, Shawn McMahon wrote:
Let me see if I get this straight:
ok.
This hypothetical person is capable of installing a PGP plugin for
Outlook, but isn't capable of using it to decrypt an attached file?
first a little clarification, i am talking about the
Hi David,
* David T-G [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-05 13.55 -0500]:
[...snip...]
Surf on over to
http://www.talkbiz.com/assassin.html
and give it a read.
Hmmm. SA seems to be right at least 8 times out of 10 for me anyway.
And let's not forget that it *is* configurable.
Seriously:
* On 2002.04.05, in [EMAIL PROTECTED],
* Sven Guckes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
seriously, though - i'd prefer a simple mapping for vim.
no need to abuse the editor variable here. and i'd
You can do that nothing about this solution prevents it.
rather add a clean command which
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 01:55:41PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
Hi, all --
I know that there are a lot of folks using various spam-fighting
tools here, and particularly some who are using Spam Assassin, and so I
thought this might be of interest. I haven't checked into SA or how it's
* David Collantes [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2002-04-05 17:47]:
For me, it will be nice if I could mutt --dump-vars
and have a .muttrc-full some something dumped on my directory,
with all options and their explanation as they are on the init.h.
Ideas, suggestions, anyone?
dont add bloat!
i have to
Hello everybody,
I'm regularly recieving perl and java programs
and I have to sort out the good from the bad.
Right now I'm using mutt and use a mailcap entry
to open the attachments in NEdit to have the
syntax highlighted and help my brain sorting
the code.
But it would be great to have
Jim --
...and then Jim MacBaine said...
%
% Hello everybody,
Hi!
%
% I'm regularly recieving perl and java programs
% and I have to sort out the good from the bad.
The perl sounds fun, but I feel for you for the java junk ;-)
%
% Right now I'm using mutt and use a mailcap entry
% to
begin quoting what Michael Elkins said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 12:29:56PM -0800:
That's pretty much what yahoo and hotmail do. They will place spam
messages in a separate Spam folder so that the user can peruse through
it in case something was blocked by accident.
Except, in Yahoo's case,
Hi,
* Jim MacBaine [04/05/02 23:52:27 CEST] wrote:
I'm regularly recieving perl and java programs
and I have to sort out the good from the bad.
Your boss doesn't seem to like you? ,-)
Right now I'm using mutt and use a mailcap entry
to open the attachments in NEdit to have the
syntax
Thomas, et al --
...and then Thomas Dickey said...
%
% On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 06:01:44PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
%
% The perl sounds fun, but I feel for you for the java junk ;-)
%
% At least java has a well-defined grammar which makes it easy to parse.
% (perl, otoh...)
*grin*
%
% I
Shawn --
...and then Shawn McMahon said...
%
% begin quoting what David T-G said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 06:01:44PM -0500:
%
% I don't know of any pagers (ie, not meant to be an editor but instead
% just a file viewer) that do syntax highlighting, though that doesn't at
% all mean that
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:56:14PM -0500, David T-G wrote:
Shawn --
...and then Shawn McMahon said...
%
% begin quoting what David T-G said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 06:01:44PM -0500:
%
% I don't know of any pagers (ie, not meant to be an editor but instead
% just a file viewer) that
begin quoting what David T-G said on Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 07:56:14PM -0500:
Well, yeah; the same as if you use -R. But it's an editor that's simply
in read-only mode, not a pager, and so it is a little clunkier to jump
forward by whole pages (you can't just hit the space bar like you do
I've been using mutt for quite a while. I love mutt. Tonight I
discovered I had the need to define a group alias. It took about five
minutes of floundering around 'til I came up with this:
alias sun sy,bw,cg,di
... the third grouping being other (previously defined) aliases. What
a great
On Fri, Apr 05, 2002 at 11:35:01AM -0800, Will Yardley wrote:
it generally takes several tests to get a message blocked. in any
event, sorry to continue this OT discussion. if you haven't already,
definitely check out spamassassin. i was a long time spambouncer
user, but i have to say
I've been using mutt for quite a while. I love mutt. Tonight I
discovered I had the need to define a group alias. It took about five
minutes of floundering around 'til I came up with this:
alias sun sy,bw,cg,di
... the third grouping being other (previously defined) aliases. What
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