Peace,
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 12:54 AM Ronald F. Guilmette
wrote:
> Those were all helpfully routed, until quite recently, to Mr. Cohen
The person with exactly the same name now runs for the RIPE NCC
Executive Board membership.
Hadron Collider; Valdis Klētnieks
Cc: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Prominent horse racing identities (was Re: Elad Cohen)
Wasn’t Hadron a Roman emperor who can somehow be blamed for the killing of
Jesus?
(or was that Jebus?)
or was that Hadrian? I forget…)
(jest sayin’…)
On Jan 27, 2020, 9:41
Wasn’t Hadron a Roman emperor who can somehow be blamed for the killing of
Jesus?
(or was that Jebus?)
or was that Hadrian? I forget…)
(jest sayin’…)
On Jan 27, 2020, 9:41 AM -0800, Valdis Klētnieks ,
wrote:
> On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 07:10:02 +, Large Hadron Collider said:
> > As much as
On Mon, 27 Jan 2020 07:10:02 +, Large Hadron Collider said:
> As much as Mr Cohen's minor libel of Spamhaus and ARIN exposes him as perhaps
> having something to hide on this subject, Mr Guilmette's message here, among
> the other screeds of his I have read, seems to leak anti-Semitism from
Perhaps nobody should be using NANOG to trade ad hominem attacks in any case.
Just my $0.02.
Owen
> On Jan 27, 2020, at 08:02 , William Herrin wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 7:11 AM Large Hadron Collider
> wrote:
>> As much as Mr Cohen's minor libel of Spamhaus and ARIN exposes him as
On Mon, Jan 27, 2020 at 7:11 AM Large Hadron Collider
wrote:
> As much as Mr Cohen's minor libel of Spamhaus and ARIN exposes him as perhaps
> having something to hide on this subject, Mr Guilmette's message here, among
> the other screeds of his I have read, seems to leak anti-Semitism from its
As much as Mr Cohen's minor libel of Spamhaus and ARIN exposes him as perhaps
having something to hide on this subject, Mr Guilmette's message here, among
the other screeds of his I have read, seems to leak anti-Semitism from its
every fetid, infected pore.
I have no doubt that Mr Cohen, in
* r...@tristatelogic.com (Ronald F. Guilmette) [Fri 20 Sep 2019, 00:50 CEST]:
Leaving aside the minor quibble that "Dutch" is not, as far as I am
aware, a "race" per se, I do apologize for having improperly and
quite wrongly generalized the apparent confluence of of certain
events and actions
Everytime you guys change the subject on this pointless thread, you break
my filter. Admins can you please take action on this? Enough is enough.
-Mike Bolitho
On Fri, Sep 20, 2019, 3:21 AM James Downs via NANOG wrote:
> For the record:
>
> Slander is false *spoken* statements.
> Libel is
For the record:
Slander is false *spoken* statements.
Libel is false *written* statements.
HTH, HAND.
In message <20190919084649.gc30...@jima.tpb.net>,
niels=na...@bakker.net wrote:
>* r...@tristatelogic.com (Ronald F. Guilmette) [Thu 19 Sep 2019, 10:05 CEST]:
>>I never like to generalize to entire populations, and I will
>>therefore refrain from suggesting any endemic or widespread defect
> Elad Cohen wrote :
> Mr. Ronald Guilmette
> It is hinted from your tongue-lashing, that you are connected clearly with
> Spamhaus and ARIN
What a joke, given the sour relation between him and ARIN and his very public
views about enforcing the law of the land locally.
Ronald may be tilting at
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 11:43 AM William Herrin wrote:
>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 7:58 AM Christopher Morrow
> wrote:
>>
>> What I'm asking is: "there is already repair for the harmed parties,
>> if they are not taking advantage of this then I don't think we need to
>> spend more time on
On 9/19/19 9:03 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
On Sep 19, 2019, at 9:08 AM, John Sage wrote:
On 9/19/19 3:25 AM, Elad Cohen wrote:
Mr. Ronald Guilmette
Are there *any* moderators #OnHere at all?
Moderators? No. Anyone subscribed to the list can post anything at any time.
But posts are
On Sep 19, 2019, at 9:08 AM, John Sage wrote:
>
> On 9/19/19 3:25 AM, Elad Cohen wrote:
>> Mr. Ronald Guilmette
>
> Are there *any* moderators #OnHere at all?
Moderators? No. Anyone subscribed to the list can post anything at any time.
But posts are reviewed after the fact if there is
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 7:58 AM Christopher Morrow
wrote:
> What I'm asking is: "there is already repair for the harmed parties,
> if they are not taking advantage of this then I don't think we need to
> spend more time on this topic"
>
Hi Chris,
I respectfully disagree with the assertion that
On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 4:05 AM Ronald F. Guilmette
wrote:
>
> In message
>
> Christopher Morrow wrote:
>
> >"who cares about the sale?"
>
> My apologies. I see that I have failed to be adequately clear.
>
I was misunderstood I think.
What I'm asking is: "there is already repair for the
On 9/19/19 2:47 AM, Elad Cohen wrote:
> It is not related to nefarious activity as you wrote, FDCServers
> policy is to stop routing any ranges which is in Spamhaus SBL (no
> matter what), due to the phear from Spamhaus to list all of
> FDCServers ranges in SBL, which was told to us in a
On 9/19/19 3:25 AM, Elad Cohen wrote:
Mr. Ronald Guilmette
Are there *any* moderators #OnHere at all?
Ronald,
You don’t have to jump into such a defensive position to my comment.
I am neither siding with Mr. Cohen on this case nor with your side, I am
merely a neutral third sharing his thoughts.
> Meanwhile, if I am right and if Mr. Cohen is wrong, then what price will he
> pay for his misdeeds,
we will very appreciate
facts and not opinions)
From: Matt Corallo
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 2:35 PM
To: Elad Cohen
Cc: Ronald F. Guilmette ; nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Elad Cohen
Come on dude, you could just respond with the requested LoAs and purchase
agreement
Thursday, September 19, 2019 2:03 PM
> To: nanog@nanog.org
> Subject: Re: Elad Cohen
>
> In message <8a49bf73-7a68-4b8f-9dc5-e94b7fe63...@globalone.io>,
> Florian Brandstetter wrote:
>
> >... this is certainly not a place where you can
> >slander his name
will not be such a "hero" and a "savior" as
you represent yourself today.
From: NANOG on behalf of Ronald F. Guilmette
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 2:03 PM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Elad Cohen
In message <8a49bf73-7a68-4b8f-9dc5-e94b7fe63...
In message <8a49bf73-7a68-4b8f-9dc5-e94b7fe63...@globalone.io>,
Florian Brandstetter wrote:
>... this is certainly not a place where you can
>slander his name or anyone associated with him in any manner for the
>entertainment of everyone...
If I have slandered anyone, then I shall bear the
Jon Sands writes:
> On 9/19/2019 6:12 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>>
>> I just want to ruling on this. Am I the first and only person who has ever
>> received a cartooney directly on the NANOG list?
>
> I can't remember if it was over NANOG or not, but back in 2010 a good
> friend of mine
@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Elad Cohen
In message , Elad Cohen wrote:
>Mr. Ronald Guilmette
>
>Everything you did and you wrote in this forum until today, including mud-
>slinging and slandering, including thieves and crooks, they are libel for all
>intents and purposes with everyt
Hello Ronald,
I don’t particularly side with any party here, but as already made clear
indirectly by my passive aggressive tone on your trace route (which was nothing
but a route loop in cogent’s network), I do certainly disagree with the way you
treat Mr. Cohen. This comes due to the nature
On 9/19/2019 6:12 AM, Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
I just want to ruling on this. Am I the first and only person who has ever
received a cartooney directly on the NANOG list?
I can't remember if it was over NANOG or not, but back in 2010 a good
friend of mine Mike Bailey (now deceased)
In message , Elad Cohen wrote:
>Mr. Ronald Guilmette
>
>Everything you did and you wrote in this forum until today, including mud-
>slinging and slandering, including thieves and crooks, they are libel for all
>intents and purposes with everything it implies, and this without to
>display any
Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
Just injecting false route information may not be a crime.
However, doing so for financial gain maybe a crime of fraud.
I guess that there is something that either you, or perhaps I, are not
understanding here.
> Financial gain appears to me to be the obvious
Hello Richard,
It is not related to nefarious activity as you wrote, FDCServers policy is to
stop routing any ranges which is in Spamhaus SBL (no matter what), due to the
phear from Spamhaus to list all of FDCServers ranges in SBL, which was told to
us in a documented phone call, listing all
tte mailto:r...@tristatelogic.com>>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 11:22 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org<mailto:nanog@nanog.org>
mailto:nanog@nanog.org>>
Subject: Re: Elad Cohen
In message
mailto:d6411136-73d4-9712-5303-2e364bb29...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>>,
Masataka Ohta
mai
the legal purchases that we've made
will be added to the libel suit.
Copies:
Mr. Bennet Kelley
From: NANOG on behalf of Ronald F. Guilmette
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2019 11:22 AM
To: nanog@nanog.org
Subject: Re: Elad Cohen
In message ,
Masataka Ohta
* r...@tristatelogic.com (Ronald F. Guilmette) [Thu 19 Sep 2019, 10:05 CEST]:
I never like to generalize to entire populations, and I will
therefore refrain from suggesting any endemic or widespread defect
in the Dutch national psyche, but I cannot help but note that, as
pointed out in the
In message ,
Masataka Ohta wrote:
>Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>
> > So, if you are looking for a Crime here, i.e. one defined under law,
> > there isn't one.
>
>You don't know how broadly crime of fraud is defined by the current code.
>
>Just injecting false route information may not be a crime.
In message
Christopher Morrow wrote:
>"who cares about the sale?"
My apologies. I see that I have failed to be adequately clear.
There was no "sale". There was only theft, and then stolen goods
being passed from hand to hand to hand, ultimately ending up in the
hands of Mr. Cohen, who has
Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
With respect to the Australian government's knowledge or lack thereof,
I really have no idea. If you want to know what they know, or do not
know, I encourage you to ask them yourself. It appears that this will
be rather easier for you to do, than for me to do, since
Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
> So, if you are looking for a Crime here, i.e. one defined under law,
> there isn't one.
You don't know how broadly crime of fraud is defined by
the current code.
Just injecting false route information may not be a
crime.
However, doing so for financial gain maybe
On Wed, Sep 18, 2019 at 11:19 PM Ben Cannon wrote:
> With the difficulty of getting IPs off SPAM RBLs being what they are, I’m
> not sure I like the bone-chilling idea of accepting null-routing entire
> ranges as standard practice.
>
I didn't say spam-rbl.
>
> Same reasons, no central
With the difficulty of getting IPs off SPAM RBLs being what they are, I’m not
sure I like the bone-chilling idea of accepting null-routing entire ranges as
standard practice.
Same reasons, no central repository, no easy/quick/objective/cheap way to
remove an illegitimate entry - and then the
I tried to ask this earlier, I think, but...
"who cares about the sale?"
I ask this because I think getting wrapped around that axle is the
wrong place to spend resources.
If the outcome of 'someone' controlling IP space is that there is
abusive activity coming from that space and either no
In message ,
Masataka Ohta wrote:
>Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>
>> It is a well known fundamental tenet of logical reasoning and argument
>> that it is not possible for -anyone- to prove a negative, which is what
>> you've just asked me to do.
>
>So, Australian government does not think it is a
Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
It is a well known fundamental tenet of logical reasoning and argument
that it is not possible for -anyone- to prove a negative, which is what
you've just asked me to do.
So, Australian government does not think it is a victim of a
crime. Right?
I certainly cannot
In message <15744848-5638-ad01-2c9c-a89825f9d...@necom830.hpcl.titech.ac.jp>,
Masataka Ohta wrote:
>Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
>
>> Come now Mr. Cohen, please do tell us who you paid for rights to the
>> 168.198.0.0/16 block, which belongs to the Australian government,
>
>If you think the
Ronald F. Guilmette wrote:
Come now Mr. Cohen, please do tell us who you paid for rights to the
168.198.0.0/16 block, which belongs to the Australian government,
If you think the Australian government haven't transfer its IP address
to Mr. Cohen, all you should do is let the Australian
It would be good to see some receipts, offered by the selling party.
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