Re: List of CDNs?

2013-11-16 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
suggestions. -- TTFN, patrick On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 10:11:59PM +, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: List of CDNs would be difficult, but not impossible. Although they do different things, so a simple list is unlikely to be as useful as it looks. A lost of CDN DC nodes is not possible. Why

Re: List of CDNs?

2013-11-16 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
:11 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: List of CDNs would be difficult, but not impossible. Although they do different things, so a simple list is unlikely to be as useful as it looks. A lost of CDN DC nodes is not possible. Why do you care about such a thing anyway? signature.asc

Re: List of CDNs?

2013-11-16 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
, 2013, at 5:28 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: First, the location of CDN nodes is not relevant to passive DNS monitoring. If Andrew would like a list of domains with CDN hostnames in them, that might be findable. Second, a list of CDN nodes is likely impossible to gather

Re: CDN node locations

2013-11-16 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 16, 2013, at 19:36 , Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Second, a list of CDN nodes is likely impossible to gather maintain without the help of the CDNs themselves. There are literally thousands of them, most do not serve the entire Internet, and they change frequently. And before

Re: List of CDNs?

2013-11-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
List of CDNs would be difficult, but not impossible. Although they do different things, so a simple list is unlikely to be as useful as it looks. A lost of CDN DC nodes is not possible. Why do you care about such a thing anyway? -- TTFN, patrick Composed on a virtual keyboard, please

Re: Sudan disconnected from the Internet

2013-09-25 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
It's not a fiber cut. It did come back for a while at least. https://twitter.com/akamai_soti/status/382872513761398785/photo/1 -- TTFN, patrick On Sep 25, 2013, at 21:03 , Jean-Francois Mezei jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote: On 13-09-25 20:43, Warren Bailey wrote: We make

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

2013-09-19 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos. On Sep 19, 2013, at 13:58, Paul Ferguson fergdawgs...@mykolab.com wrote: Can someone please explain to a non-Apple person what the hell happened that started generating so much traffic? Perhaps I missed it in this thread, but I would be

Re: iOS 7 update traffic

2013-09-19 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos. On Sep 19, 2013, at 14:11, Warren Bailey wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com wrote: I don't see how operators could tolerate this, honestly. I can't think of a single provider who does not oversubscribe their access platform... Which

Re: common method to count traffic volume on IX

2013-09-17 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Sep 17, 2013, at 07:02 , Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On 17/09/2013 11:52, Martin T wrote: Is there a common method to count this traffic on a switch-fabric? Just read all the switch interface packets input counters with an interval to get the aggregated input traffic and read all

Re: common method to count traffic volume on IX

2013-09-17 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Sep 17, 2013, at 11:04 , Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On 17/09/2013 14:43, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: And yes, DE-CIX is more than well aware everyone thinks this is .. uh .. let's just call it silly for now, although most would use far more disparaging words. Which is probably why

Re: common method to count traffic volume on IX

2013-09-17 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
their traffic would be with a 300 second timer. -- TTFN, patrick On 9/17/13, Nick Hilliard n...@foobar.org wrote: On 17/09/2013 14:43, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: And yes, DE-CIX is more than well aware everyone thinks this is .. uh .. let's just call it silly for now, although most would use far more

Re: Akamai Edgekey issues ?

2013-09-03 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Sep 03, 2013, at 09:58 , Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: From: Matthew Petach mpet...@netflight.com On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 7:33 PM, Jorge Amodio jmamo...@gmail.com wrote: Here is another bit of data... www.apple.com not reachable from a machine using Google's NS, reachable from an

Re: Akamai Edgekey issues ?

2013-09-03 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Sep 03, 2013, at 02:41 , Scott Hulbert sc...@scotthulbert.com wrote: Matthew Petach mpet...@netflight.com wrote: Why not just use the TWC nameservers, if thiings work when you use them instead of the Google nameservers? One reason would be that TWC used to hijack failed DNS requests

Re: Trivium

2013-08-19 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 19, 2013, at 10:42 , Blake Dunlap iki...@gmail.com wrote: Without Google, how do you know where anything even *is*? Pretending that wasn't a troll, I wonder how much of the traffic these days is things like AppleTV, Roku, OS updates, iThing/Android 'Apps', etc. that do not require a

Re: How big is the Internet?

2013-08-15 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 15, 2013, at 10:05 , Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: On Aug 14, 2013, at 3:27 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: Once you define what you mean by how bit is the Internet, I'll be happy to spout off about how big it is. :) Arbitrary definition time: A Internet host

Re: How big is the Internet?

2013-08-15 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 16, 2013, at 00:37 , Sean Donelan s...@donelan.com wrote: On Thu, 15 Aug 2013, Seth Mattinen wrote: We'll also need this data in units of number of Libraries of Congress. The researchers at the Library of Congress are more than happy to explain why you are wrong to attempt to use

Re: How big is the Internet?

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 14, 2013, at 15:00 , Sean Donelan s...@donelan.com wrote: I should have remembered, NANOG prefers to correct things. So here are several estimates about how much IP/Internet traffic is downloaded in a month. Does anyone have better numbers, or better souces of numbers that can be

Re: How big is the Internet?

2013-08-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 15, 2013, at 00:19 , Sean Donelan s...@donelan.com wrote: On Wed, 14 Aug 2013, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: It is actually even harder than the above illustrates. Most people define Mbps on the Internet as inter-AS bits. But then what about Akamai AANP nodes, Google GGC nodes, Netflix

Re: ddos attacks

2013-08-02 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 02, 2013, at 09:37 , sgr...@airstreamcomm.net wrote: I’m curious to know what other service providers are doing to alleviate/prevent ddos attacks from happening in your network. Are you completely reactive and block as many addresses as possible or null0 traffic to the effected

Re: nLayer IP transit

2013-07-31 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 31, 2013, at 20:00 , Mark Tees markt...@gmail.com wrote: I remember reading a while back that customers of nLayer IP transit services could send in Flowspec rules to nLayer. Anyone know if that is true/current? Not any more. -- TTFN, patrick signature.asc Description: Message

Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads

2013-07-26 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 25, 2013, at 19:29 , Otis L. Surratt, Jr. o...@ocosa.com wrote: From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbai...@satelliteintelligencegroup.com] Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of maintaining the whois? Yep! We registered a few domains and get the same thing, I think it's something that

Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads

2013-07-26 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 26, 2013, at 09:32 , Ryan Pavely para...@nac.net wrote: What about the 2am phone calls from the guy, who did a nslookup on a website, and then whois on the ip, who is calling to say his porn site is partially not working and he's pissed. imho. The days of having public records

Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads

2013-07-26 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 26, 2013, at 11:05 , David Conrad d...@virtualized.org wrote: On Jul 26, 2013, at 7:58 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: You can change anything you want. ARIN ICANN are both member organizations. Propose a change, get the votes, and POOF!, things are changed. Err

Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads

2013-07-26 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
: -Original Message- From: Patrick W. Gilmore [mailto:patr...@ianai.net] Sent: Friday, July 26, 2013 9:47 AM To: NANOG list Subject: Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads On Jul 25, 2013, at 19:29 , Otis L. Surratt, Jr. o...@ocosa.com wrote: From: Warren Bailey [mailto:wbai

Re: ARIN WHOIS for leads

2013-07-26 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 26, 2013, at 12:54 , Alex Rubenstein a...@corp.nac.net wrote: Case in point.. And I'm going to name drop, but do not consider this a shame. I have been looking at various filtering technologies, and was looking at Barracudas site. I went on with my day, but noticed that filtering

Re: Friday Hosing

2013-07-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 12, 2013, at 19:22 , Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote: Set up your own email server, host your own web pages, maintain your own cloud, breath your own oxygen FTW. That's simply not realistic for many companies and essentially all people (to a first approximation). -- TTFN, patrick

Re: Friday Hosing

2013-07-12 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos. On Jul 12, 2013, at 13:25, na...@namor.ca wrote: On Fri, 12 Jul 2013, Alain Hebert wrote: Is it me or the bigger a corporation gets the more vindictive (a b-word intended) they are to customers leaving them? Never attribute to malice

Re: Friday Hosing

2013-07-12 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 12, 2013, at 13:44 , Bryan Fields br...@bryanfields.net wrote: On 7/12/13 1:39 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Put another way, whether it was stupid or evil, the results are the same. Turning off a customer in good standing is actionable in court, and should be avoided by legitimate

Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table?

2013-06-24 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 22, 2013, at 16:16 , Grzegorz Janoszka grzeg...@janoszka.pl wrote: On 22-06-13 17:30, Owen DeLong wrote: Looking at the number of autonomous systems in the IPv6 routing table and the total number of routes, it looks like it will shake out somewhere in the neighborhood of 3-5

Re: /25's prefixes announced into global routing table?

2013-06-24 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 24, 2013, at 13:29 , Paul Rolland (ポール・ロラン) r...@witbe.net wrote: On Fri, 21 Jun 2013 13:56:02 -0600 Michael McConnell mich...@winkstreaming.com wrote: As the IPv4 space get smaller and smaller, does anyone think we'll see a time when /25's will be accepted for global BGP prefix

Re: Need help in flushing DNS

2013-06-19 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 20, 2013, at 01:30 , Grant Ridder shortdudey...@gmail.com wrote: Yelp is evidently also affected Not from here. If the NS or www points to 204.11.56.0/24 for a production domain/hostname, that's bad. Yelp seems to be resolving normally for me. -- TTFN, patrick On Wed, Jun 19, 2013

Re: Multihop eBGP peering or VPN based eBGP peering

2013-06-17 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 17, 2013, at 00:36 , Otis L. Surratt, Jr. o...@ocosa.com wrote: Any idea why more companies don't offer eBGP peering / multi hop peering? Its very common for providers to offer single or double hop peering, so why not 5 or 10 hops? In many cases people find it logical to perform single

Re: huawei

2013-06-13 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 13, 2013, at 12:18 , Nick Khamis sym...@gmail.com wrote: A local clec here in Canada just teamed up with this company to provide cell service to the north: http://cwta.ca/blog/2012/09/24/ice-wireless-iristel-and-huawei-partner-for-3g-wireless-network-in-northern-canada/ Scary

Re: huawei

2013-06-13 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
or something that is magically messaged from the mother ship, but I am dubious. It should be trivial to prove to yourself the box is, or is not, doing something evil if you actually try. -- TTFN, patrick --Original Message-- From: Patrick W. Gilmore To: NANOG list Subject: Re: huawei Sent

Re: Single AS multiple Dirverse Providers

2013-06-10 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
however, providers a/b at site1 do not send us the two /24s from site b.. This is probably incorrect. The providers are almost certainly sending you the prefixes, but your router is dropping them due to loop detection. To answer your later question, this is the definition of 'standard' as it

Re: Single AS multiple Dirverse Providers

2013-06-10 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 10, 2013, at 12:54 , Joe Provo nanog-p...@rsuc.gweep.net wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:36:44AM -0500, Dennis Burgess wrote: I have a network that has three peers, two are at one site and the third is geographically diverse, and there is NO connection between the two separate

Re: Single AS multiple Dirverse Providers

2013-06-10 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:36 , Bruce Pinsky b...@whack.org wrote: Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: however, providers a/b at site1 do not send us the two /24s from site b.. This is probably incorrect. The providers are almost certainly sending you the prefixes, but your router

Re: Single AS multiple Dirverse Providers

2013-06-10 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 10, 2013, at 14:07 , Bruce Pinsky b...@whack.org wrote: Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Jun 10, 2013, at 13:36 , Bruce Pinsky b...@whack.org wrote: Or maintain standard behavior by running a GRE tunnel between the two discontinuous sites and run iBGP over the tunnel. Standard how

Re: Single AS multiple Dirverse Providers

2013-06-10 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 10, 2013, at 14:14 , Joe Provo nanog-p...@rsuc.gweep.net wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 01:18:04PM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Jun 10, 2013, at 12:54 , Joe Provo nanog-p...@rsuc.gweep.net wrote: On Mon, Jun 10, 2013 at 11:36:44AM -0500, Dennis Burgess wrote: I have a network

Re: Single AS multiple Dirverse Providers

2013-06-10 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jun 10, 2013, at 15:23 , Job Snijders job.snijd...@atrato.com wrote: The alternative is to expect networks with 100s or 1000s of locations to burn 100s or 1000s of ASNs. Which I think is a bit silly. Hence my question about possibly changing the rules. I see no issue with that, we have

whoami.akamai.net

2013-05-16 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
As the whoami.akamai.net hostname came up on the list, I thought I'd mention it here. The hostname 'whoami.akamai.com' is a CNAME for whoami.akamai.net. That CNAME is, frankly, a mistake. It will be removed soon. If you are using the .com name, please move to the .net name. -- TTFN, patrick

Re: Variety, On The Media, don't understand the Internet

2013-05-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On May 14, 2013, at 13:06 , Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: Or I don't. Which is not completely impossible. In this piece: http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/netflix-puts-even-more-strain-on-the-internet-1200480561/ they suggest that Akamai and other ISP-side caching is

Re: Variety, On The Media, don't understand the Internet

2013-05-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On May 14, 2013, at 15:53 , Jean-Francois Mezei jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote: On 13-05-14 13:06, Jay Ashworth wrote: http://variety.com/2013/digital/news/netflix-puts-even-more-strain-on-the-internet-1200480561/ they suggest that Akamai and other ISP-side caching is either not

Re: Variety, On The Media, don't understand the Internet

2013-05-14 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On May 14, 2013, at 21:14 , Jean-Francois Mezei jfmezei_na...@vaxination.ca wrote: On 13-05-14 20:55, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: Since when is peering not part of the Internet? Yes, one car argue that an device with an IP address routable from the internet is part of the internet. Can

whoami.akamai.net [was: Google Public DNS Problems?]

2013-05-02 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On May 02, 2013, at 12:12 , Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote: On 2013-05-02, at 12:10, Joe Abley jab...@hopcount.ca wrote: On 2013-05-02, at 11:59, Charles Gucker cguc...@onesc.net wrote: That's not entirely true.You can easily do lookup for whoami.akamai.net and it will return the

Re: whoami.akamai.net [was: Google Public DNS Problems?]

2013-05-02 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On May 02, 2013, at 14:42 , Constantine A. Murenin muren...@gmail.com wrote: On 2 May 2013 11:12, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: For clarity: Looking up the hostname whoami.akamai.net will return the IP address in the source field of the packet (DNS query) which reached

Re: Tier1 blackholing policy?

2013-04-30 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:07 , Chris Boyd cb...@gizmopartners.com wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 10:59 -0400, ML wrote: 1) Do nothing - They're supposed deliver any and all bits (Disregarding a DoS or similiar situation which impedes said network) 2) Prefix filter - Don't be a party (at least in

Re: Tier1 blackholing policy?

2013-04-30 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Apr 30, 2013, at 11:23 , Thomas Schmid sch...@dfn.de wrote: On 30.04.2013 17:07, Chris Boyd wrote: On Tue, 2013-04-30 at 10:59 -0400, ML wrote: 1) Do nothing - They're supposed deliver any and all bits (Disregarding a DoS or similiar situation which impedes said network) 2) Prefix filter

Re: Tier1 blackholing policy?

2013-04-30 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos. On Apr 30, 2013, at 12:32, Thomas Schmid sch...@dfn.de wrote: Am 30.04.2013 17:53, schrieb Patrick W. Gilmore: Core? Seriously? Which of these statements are true: A) Is it impossible for an end user or business (i.e. non-ISP) to get

Re: IPv6 and HTTPS

2013-04-25 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Apr 26, 2013, at 00:19 , joel jaeggli joe...@bogus.com wrote: On 4/25/13 6:24 PM, Jay Ashworth wrote: Ok, here's a stupid question[1], which I'd know the answer to if I ran bigger networks: Does anyone know how much IPv4 space is allocated *specifically* to cater to the fact that HTTPS

Re: Open Resolver Problems

2013-04-01 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Apr 01, 2013, at 11:55 , Milt Aitken m...@net2atlanta.com wrote: Most of our DSL customers have modem/routers that resolve DNS externally. And most of those have no configuration option to stop it. So, we took the unfortunate step of ACL blocking DNS requests to from the DSL network

Re: Open Resolver Problems

2013-04-01 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Apr 01, 2013, at 12:09 , Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Apr 1, 2013, at 11:03 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: You can always make an exception if the user is extremely loud. It might be a good idea to make pinholes for the Google and OpenDNS recursors, as they're fairly

Re: Open Resolver Problems

2013-03-26 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Composed on a virtual keyboard, please forgive typos. On Mar 26, 2013, at 18:27, Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Mar 26, 2013, at 3:13 PM, Nick Hilliard wrote: The whole point of this thread is that dns amplification hurts other people, not the resolver which is being abused.

Re: Open Resolver Problems

2013-03-26 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Mar 26, 2013, at 08:01 , Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Mar 26, 2013, at 6:50 PM, Jamie Bowden wrote: let's suppose I just happen to have, or have access to, a botnet comprised of (tens of) millions of random hosts all over the internet, and I feel like destroying your DNS

Re: Open Resolver Problems

2013-03-26 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Mar 26, 2013, at 10:38 , Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: From: Jared Mauch ja...@puck.nether.net b) locking down your recursive servers to networks you control Sure. But OpenDNS, Google, and the other providers of recursive servers for edge cases can't do that anymore? I wish

Re: What Should an Engineer Address when 'Selling' IPv6 to Executives?

2013-03-05 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Mar 05, 2013, at 13:41 , Cameron Byrne cb.li...@gmail.com wrote: In-line Isn't every reply? (Well, every reply worth reading.) On Tue, Mar 5, 2013 at 9:55 AM, Mukom Akong T. mukom.ta...@gmail.com wrote: Dear experts, I've found myself thinking about what ground an engineer needs to

Re: Cloudflare is down

2013-03-04 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Mar 04, 2013, at 09:51 , Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: Any competent network admin would have stopped and questioned a 90,000+ byte packet and done more investigation. Competent programmers writing their internal tools would have flagged that data as out of rage. The last couple

Re: The 100 Gbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-12 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Feb 12, 2013, at 01:06 , Doug Barton do...@dougbarton.us wrote: On 02/11/2013 03:52 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: One of us has a different dictionary than everyone else. I'm not sure it's different dictionaries, I think you're talking past each other. No, it's definitely different

Re: The 100 Gbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-11 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Feb 11, 2013, at 14:11 , Stephen Sprunk step...@sprunk.org wrote: On 11-Feb-13 12:25, Mark Radabaugh wrote: On 2/11/13 9:32 AM, ML wrote: Any eyeball network that wants to support multicast should peer with the content players(s) that support it. Simple! Just another reason to make the

Re: The 100 Gbit/s problem in your network

2013-02-11 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Feb 11, 2013, at 18:52 , Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: On Feb 11, 2013, at 14:11 , Stephen Sprunk step...@sprunk.org wrote: Multicast _is_ useful for filling the millions of DVRs out there with broadcast programs and for live events (eg. sports). A smart VOD system would

Re: Global caches

2013-02-04 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Feb 04, 2013, at 09:03 , Kyle Camilleri kyle.camill...@melitaplc.com wrote: Some CDN providers such as Akamai and Google (often called Global Google Cache) are offering caches to ISPs. It is very convenient for small ISPs to alleviate bandwidth towards the provider, but also the CDN

Re: Ddos mitigation service

2013-02-01 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Feb 01, 2013, at 10:02 , Paul Stewart p...@paulstewart.org wrote: Akamai (CDN) does scrubbing??? http://www.akamai.com/html/solutions/kona-solutions.html I'm sure there are other things Akamai does in the security sector as well. -- TTFN, patrick -Original Message- From:

Re: Netflix transit preference?

2012-12-27 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Dec 27, 2012, at 13:19 , randal k na...@data102.com wrote: I work at a datacenter in southern Colorado that is the upstream bandwidth provider for several regional ISPs. We have been investigating our ever-growing bandwidth usage and have found that out of transits (Level3,Cogent,HE) that

Re: Netflix transit preference?

2012-12-27 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Thu, Dec 27, 2012 at 11:26 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: On Dec 27, 2012, at 13:19 , randal k na...@data102.com wrote: I work at a datacenter in southern Colorado that is the upstream bandwidth provider for several regional ISPs. We have been investigating our

Re: Netflix transit preference?

2012-12-27 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
, patrick On Dec 27, 2012, at 13:54 , Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: On Dec 27, 2012, at 13:46 , randal k na...@data102.com wrote: Thanks for your prompt response. Yes, we are trying to determine where/how we receive it ... not necessarily influence it, as there isn't so much we can

Re: Why do some providers require IPv6 /64 PA space to have public whois?

2012-12-08 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Dec 08, 2012, at 21:14 , Darius Jahandarie djahanda...@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Dec 8, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Dan Luedtke m...@danrl.de wrote: Off-topic but somehow important to me: HE has an open-peering policy (AFAIK); which basically means that tunnelbroker.net traffic is free for hetzner.de

Legal Crap [was: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can.]

2012-12-01 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 30, 2012, at 20:25 , Randy Bush ra...@psg.com wrote: Not a lawyer. than stfu with the legal crap It amazes me how people feel free to opine on things like networking without a certification, but if you don't have a law degree, suddenly they believe you are incapable of understanding

Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can.

2012-11-29 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:17 , Barry Shein b...@world.std.com wrote: Back in the early days of the public internet we didn't require any id to create an account, just that you found a way to pay us. We had anonymous accts some of whom dropped by personally to pay their bill, some said hello but

Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can.

2012-11-29 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 29, 2012, at 12:58 , Barry Shein b...@world.std.com wrote: On November 29, 2012 at 11:45 patr...@ianai.net (Patrick W. Gilmore) wrote: On Nov 29, 2012, at 11:17 , Barry Shein b...@world.std.com wrote: It's funny, it's all illusion like show business. It's not hard to set up anonymous

Re: William was raided for running a Tor exit node. Please help if you can.

2012-11-29 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 29, 2012, at 13:57 , William Herrin b...@herrin.us wrote: On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 11:45 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: Do you think if the police found out child pr0n was being served from a starbux they wouldn't confiscate the equipment from that store? I think

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 20, 2012, at 08:45 , Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: It is entirely possible that Google's numbers are artificially low for a number of reasons. AMS-IX publishes stats too: https://stats.ams-ix.net/sflow/ This is probably a better view of overall percentage on the Internet

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 20, 2012, at 11:42 , Mike Jones m...@mikejones.in wrote: On 20 November 2012 16:05, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: On Nov 20, 2012, at 08:45 , Owen DeLong o...@delong.com wrote: It is entirely possible that Google's numbers are artificially low for a number of reasons

Re: Big day for IPv6 - 1% native penetration

2012-11-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 20, 2012, at 14:44 , Tony Hain alh-i...@tndh.net wrote: If you assume that Youtube/Facebook/Netflix are 50% of the overall traffic, why wouldn't a dual stacked end point have half of its traffic as IPv6 after June??? If you assume Kinda says it all right there. But more

Re: Google/Youtube problems

2012-11-19 Thread Patrick W . Gilmore
On Nov 19, 2012, at 03:05 , Saku Ytti s...@ytti.fi wrote: On (2012-11-18 23:47 +0100), Daniel Suchy wrote: Is anyone else seeing similar problems with Google/Youtube? My advice is, host the content locally. Sound advice, IMHO. I'm bit curious about market position youtube has. GOOG

Re: Plages d'adresses IP Orange

2012-11-19 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 19, 2012, at 12:16 , Jamie Bowden ja...@photon.com wrote: Actually, this is kind of an interesting aside. Last time I checked, Canada counts as North America and large parts of Quebec are inhabited by folks who don't speak much, if any, English. Having said that, I can't recall

Re: Indonesian ISP Moratel announces Google's prefixes

2012-11-06 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Nov 06, 2012, at 23:48 , Jian Gu guxiaoj...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean hijack? Google is peering with Moratel, if Google does not want Moratel to advertise its routes to Moratel's peers/upstreams, then Google should've set the correct BGP attributes in the first place. That doesn't

Re: Indonesian ISP Moratel announces Google's prefixes

2012-11-06 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
this? Hint: Don't say No-Advertise, unless you want peers to only talk to the adjacent AS, not their customers or their customers' customers, etc. Looking forward to your answer. -- TTFN, patrick On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 9:02 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.netwrote: On Nov 06, 2012, at 23:48

Re: Indonesian ISP Moratel announces Google's prefixes

2012-11-06 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
on them! (Does that have any effect any more? :) Oh, and we are still waiting for an answer: Which attribute do you think Google could have used to stop this? -- TTFN, patrick On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.netwrote: On Nov 07, 2012, at 00:07 , Jian Gu

Re: Indonesian ISP Moratel announces Google's prefixes

2012-11-06 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
? educate me, Google is announcing /24 for all of their 4 NS prefix and 8.8.8.0/24 for their public DNS server, how did Moratel leak those routes to Internet? On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: On Nov 07, 2012, at 00:07 , Jian Gu guxiaoj

[NANOG-announce] Elections open tomorrow

2012-10-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Everyone: NANOG elections open tomorrow. Please consider standing for one of the committees, or nominating someone for the committees. Remember, committee members get free registration to every NANOG meeting! The only requirement is a willingness to contribute to the community, and being a

Re: really nasty attacks

2012-09-27 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Sep 27, 2012, at 11:34 , Stephane Bortzmeyer bortzme...@nic.fr wrote: On Thu, Sep 27, 2012 at 08:55:58AM -0600, Miguel Mata mm...@intercom.com.sv wrote a message of 30 lines which said: Guys, No gals on NANOG? Many. Although in fairness, some people use guys in a gender-neutral

Re: [Nanog-futures] Possible word error in section 18.1 Liability

2012-09-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Sep 20, 2012, at 00:19 , Jack Hamm jackha...@me.com wrote: I'm not a lawyer, but in section 18.1: (a) beach of the director’s or officer’s duty of loyalty to NANOG; I believe that is meant to say (a) breach of the If it were a beach, I may run again =) -- TTFN, patrick

Re: Heads-Up: GoDaddy Broke the Interwebs...

2012-09-11 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Sep 11, 2012, at 16:04 , Christopher Morrow morrowc.li...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 3:47 PM, Damian Menscher dam...@google.com wrote: Summary: 30 minutes late on the start time, and off by well over an hour on the stop time. even a broken clock is right 2x/day?

Re: Heads-Up: GoDaddy Broke the Interwebs...

2012-09-11 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Sep 11, 2012, at 17:04 , ryanL ryan.lan...@gmail.com wrote: when patrick is referring to taking their word for it, he's referring to a post on outages@ by godaddy's network engineering manager that stated bgp, and more details to follow. Well, mostly I'm taking GoDaddy at their word that

Re: Sprint Outage - Chicago

2012-08-27 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 27, 2012, at 12:58, virendra rode virendra.r...@gmail.com wrote: On 08/25/2012 11:36 AM, Jason Baugher wrote: On 8/24/2012 11:39 PM, Randy Bush wrote: You mean outages@... chris, this is not productive. outages are a very apt subject for nanog. I'm actually not certain posting

Re: Comcast 1, Verizon 0 [was: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies]

2012-08-21 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Just as a follow up, leaving my driveway this morning, the tech was installing a new pedestal. Said everything should be fixed today. Comcast++ -- TTFN, patrick On Aug 20, 2012, at 17:22 , Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: Comcast has already contacted me to fix this up

Return two locations or low TTL [was: DNS caches that support partitioning ?]

2012-08-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
While I hesitate to argue DNS with Mark, I feel this needs a response. On Aug 19, 2012, at 17:37 , Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: In message ddf607b5-415b-41e8-9222-eb549d3db...@semihuman.com, Chris Woodfield writes: What Patrick said. For large sites that offer services in multiple data

Re: Return two locations or low TTL [was: DNS caches that support partitioning ?]

2012-08-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 20, 2012, at 06:49 , Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Aug 20, 2012, at 5:24 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: But I do not think returning multiple A records for multiple datacenters is as useful as lowering the TTL. Some folks do this via various GSLB mechanisms which

Re: Return two locations or low TTL [was: DNS caches that support partitioning ?]

2012-08-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 20, 2012, at 08:25 , Tony Finch d...@dotat.at wrote: Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: On Aug 19, 2012, at 17:37 , Mark Andrews ma...@isc.org wrote: Which is why the DNS supports multiple address records. Clients don't have to wait a minutes to fallover to a second address

Re: Return two locations or low TTL [was: DNS caches that support partitioning ?]

2012-08-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 20, 2012, at 08:47 , Chris Adams cmad...@hiwaay.net wrote: Once upon a time, Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net said: * How many applications are even aware multiple addresses were returned? Most anything that supports IPv6 should handle this correctly, since getaddrinfo

Re: Return two locations or low TTL [was: DNS caches that support partitioning ?]

2012-08-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 20, 2012, at 10:07 , Dobbins, Roland rdobb...@arbor.net wrote: On Aug 20, 2012, at 5:56 PM, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: My question above is asking Mark how you guarantee the user/application selects the A record closest to them and only use the other A record when the closer one

Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Given the recent VZ thread, I thought I'd show why my new house has crap Internet. The story: A piece of underground cable went bad. The techs didn't pull new underground cable. They decided it was better to do it arial (if you can call 2 feet arial). They took apart the two pedestals on

Re: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies

2012-08-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 20, 2012, at 16:25 , Leo Bicknell bickn...@ufp.org wrote: In a message written on Mon, Aug 20, 2012 at 04:12:22PM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: The story: A piece of underground cable went bad. The techs didn't pull new underground cable. They decided it was better to do

Comcast 1, Verizon 0 [was: Comcast vs. Verizon for repair methodologies]

2012-08-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
Comcast has already contacted me to fix this up. -- TTFN, patrick On Aug 20, 2012, at 16:12 , Patrick W. Gilmore patr...@ianai.net wrote: Given the recent VZ thread, I thought I'd show why my new house has crap Internet. The story: A piece of underground cable went bad. The techs

Re: DNS caches that support partitioning ?

2012-08-18 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 18, 2012, at 5:35, Raymond Dijkxhoorn raym...@prolocation.net wrote: Reverse DNS isnt the only issue here. There are many sites that give each user a subdomain. And if i look at my top talkers on some busy resolvers i do see that thats doing about 25-30% of the lookups currently.

US House to ITU: Hands off the Internet

2012-08-03 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
[Feels operational to me.] http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/260299/us_house_to_itu_hands_off_the_internet.html The U.S. House of Representatives voted late Thursday to send a message to the United Nations' International Telecommunication Union that the Internet doesn't need new

Re: Update from the NANOG Communications Committee regarding recent off-topic posts

2012-07-30 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
I'm sorry Panashe is upset by this rule. Interestingly, Your search - Panashe Flack nanog - did not match any documents. So my guess is that a post from that account has not happened before, meaning the post was moderated yet still made it through. Has anyone done a data mining experiment to

Re: Update from the NANOG Communications Committee regarding recent off-topic posts

2012-07-30 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 30, 2012, at 16:35 , Jay Ashworth j...@baylink.com wrote: thanks MLC or whatever it calls itself this week C'mon, Randy; It's been called that since it kicked me off 7 years ago. :-) Except, of course, it has been called the Communications Committee for a while now. (The change was

Re: Weekly Routing Table Report

2012-07-20 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 20, 2012, at 16:10 , Darius Jahandarie wrote: On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:04 PM, valdis.kletni...@vt.edu wrote: So, whatever happened to that whole the internet will catch fire when we get to 280K routing table entries or whatever it was? :) But what will happen when we have

Communications Committee volunteers [was: The Cidr Report]

2012-07-13 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Jul 13, 2012, at 14:20 , JC Dill wrote: On 13/07/12 10:46 AM, Grant Ridder wrote: if the admins are not going to moderate this list... give me the admin password to the list serve and i will set it up right... gees +1 Most excellent! Just so you know, the admins are the Communications

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