Re: [neonixie-l] Diving VFD such as IV-22 etc DC Vs AC Filament drive

2023-06-16 Thread Adam Jacobs
You'll be fine with DC. If you can't see a visible difference in brightness across the tube then it probably doesn't matter. People say there are lifespan issues with DC but I haven't seen that yet on my VFD clocks. I just use DC and bias the grid ~ -3vdc. On Thu, Jun 15, 2023, 10:45 PM Richard

Re: [neonixie-l] Prices, seriously?

2021-06-11 Thread Adam Jacobs
Wait seriously $55 for IN-14? I'm going to sell of my stash and plan a European vacation... On Fri, Jun 11, 2021, 12:39 PM Bill Notfaded wrote: > 55$ for an IN-14... geesh! It's fine grid but what? > > Bill > > On Thursday, June 10, 2021 at 2:24:48 PM UTC-7 nickja...@gmail.com wrote: > >> Good

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie film appearance - Chernobyl miniseries

2019-06-07 Thread Adam Jacobs
I think they are IN-8. I have a clock made with them right next to my television and it was a nice coincidence. -w7qi On Fri, Jun 7, 2019, 2:09 PM Kevin A. wrote: > I've been watching the HBO miniseries about Chernobyl (which is very > entertaining without disrespecting most of the facts).

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-18 new for sale

2019-04-23 Thread Adam Jacobs
$45 each is the type of great price most folks wont mind hearing. That's a 2005 price. I'll contact off list, I've never bought in-18s but always wanted some for a clock. Side view nixies are silly expensive nowadays if you don't already have boxes of them. -w7qi On Tue, Apr 23, 2019, 5:09 AM

RE: [neonixie-l] Ham radios with Nixies?

2015-05-31 Thread Adam Jacobs
I would be more tempted to find a user radio and add a digital nixie frequency display. Any old user Swan, for example. -W7QI -Original Message- From: Jonathan Peakall jpeak...@madlabs.info Sent: ‎5/‎31/‎2015 1:26 PM To: neonixie-l@googlegroups.com neonixie-l@googlegroups.com Subject:

Re: [neonixie-l] Your message in neonixie-l was denied

2014-04-11 Thread Adam Jacobs
Is everyone getting these, or just me? -Adam On 4/10/2014 10:01 PM, neonixie-l+nore...@googlegroups.com wrote: neonixie-l https://groups.google.com/d/forum/neonixie-l Google Groups https://groups.google.com/d/overview Logo for Google Groups https://groups.google.com/d/overview

Re: [neonixie-l] Your message in neonixie-l was denied

2014-04-11 Thread Adam Jacobs
Thanks, Nick! My apologies for asking a question already answered. -Adam On 4/11/2014 7:17 AM, Nick wrote: Read the group! I posted about this earlier today... it's a cunning type of SPAM that purports to come from the group itself, therefore cannot be marked as SPAM else the group would ban

Re: [neonixie-l] Erratic Harrison clock

2014-03-17 Thread Adam Jacobs
I can tell you that if you want to advance one of these clocks in your house hours at a time by remote control, all you need to do is work some CW in the basement. :D -Adam On 3/17/2014 2:38 AM, Nick wrote: Being fair, this clock was designed a long long time ago when stuff directly

Re: [neonixie-l] Help with upgrading my soldering iron

2014-02-17 Thread Adam Jacobs
It really depends on what you're doing as far as if a metcal would be worth it or not... but I'm thinking that if you have to ask for recommendations then you don't need one. I'm a real fan of Weller soldering irons. I've had a blue handled Weller for nearly my whole life and it never steered

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-18 gone bad.

2014-01-22 Thread Adam Jacobs
This is an issue that is most obvious on clocks with lots of functionality. If there are different modes/menus that display numerals on a tube that are not normally lit as part of the clock, then you'll see this. Best advice is to take full advantage of automated cathode-poisoning prevention

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: resistance of filament warm vs cold

2013-12-09 Thread Adam Jacobs
02:44, Adam Jacobs a...@jacobs.us mailto:a...@jacobs.us wrote: Yes, but why use enamel coated wire in the first place? I've only ever used it for winding inductors and transformers. I hate the stuff. Dipping in molten solder usually works to remove the enamel, with a clean-up

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: resistance of filament warm vs cold

2013-12-08 Thread Adam Jacobs
Yes, but why use enamel coated wire in the first place? I've only ever used it for winding inductors and transformers. I hate the stuff. Dipping in molten solder usually works to remove the enamel, with a clean-up pass using sandpaper. My favorite protoboard wire is the old 80-wire PATA ribbon

Re: [neonixie-l] resistance of filament warm vs cold

2013-12-07 Thread Adam Jacobs
always run it though a bench PSU with a current limit set, then just play with some resistors (or a wire wound pot / rheostat) until the figures work out... - Alex On Friday, 6 December 2013 19:41:13 UTC, Adam Jacobs wrote: Hi Gideon, You're doing it wrong. :) We do not normally

Re: [neonixie-l] resistance of filament warm vs cold

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Jacobs
Hi Gideon, You're doing it wrong. :) We do not normally refer to filaments by their impedance, but rather by their power draw. What is the equivalent resistor value of a 100watt incandescent lightbulb? There isn't one, because filaments and resistors behave differently. For starters, a

Re: [neonixie-l] resistance of filament warm vs cold

2013-12-06 Thread Adam Jacobs
this on my phone but i do not think your formula is going to work. R_1 is before and after the = sign. I will look at it tomorrow morning Op 6 dec. 2013 20:41 schreef Adam Jacobs jacobs.a...@gmail.com mailto:jacobs.a...@gmail.com: Hi Gideon, Ā You're doing it wrong. :) We do

Re: [neonixie-l] How to get IV-11 VFD tubes properly aligned on protoboard

2013-12-04 Thread Adam Jacobs
Yep, exactly. I can take a picture of how I place them, but basically it ends up being a sort of square or rectangle. I leave about a centimeter of lead above the protoboard so that the tube can be gently twisted the right way. -Adam On 12/4/2013 2:26 PM, David Forbes wrote: Gideon, The

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie tube plastic spacers needed.

2013-11-26 Thread Adam Jacobs
Well, Sure, minus the upside down 2 for a 5. :) But plus the HORRIBLE 4 numeral. I like the 5's in the IN-8-2's, but the 4's are bad enough that I switched back to IN-14's back in the day. Now, neither of those nixie tubes are cheap enough for me to use in new designs. All of my stockpile of

Re: [neonixie-l] Nixie tube plastic spacers needed.

2013-11-26 Thread Adam Jacobs
I will use the IN8 pins, That's the whole reason I opted for IN8-2. Thanks for your input. I appreciate it! Chris On Tuesday, November 26, 2013 11:12:11 AM UTC-7, Adam Jacobs wrote: Well, Sure, minus the upside down 2 for a 5. :) But plus the HORRIBLE 4

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Arduino and MAX6921

2013-11-21 Thread Adam Jacobs
Hi David, I used to think it was strange too and always included the clock functionality in the microcontroller. However, I was always fine-tuning the accuracy. I believe that someone was posting to this list a little while back about his own Atmel microcontroller clock-code accuracy issues.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Arduino and MAX6921

2013-11-21 Thread Adam Jacobs
Time-setting as well as time-getting and displaying will need to be done on the Microcontroller. The RTC relies on receiving an I2C message with the time to set; it doesn't have any mechanism for connecting buttons or such directly. 'find out whether this is going to work' is probably something

Re: [neonixie-l] Arduino and MAX6921

2013-11-21 Thread Adam Jacobs
Hi Gideon, What are you studying at university? We're starting to get to the point where you should be able to start figuring it out. Definitely shouldn't look like voodoo... Start with the Datasheet: http://datasheets.maximintegrated.com/en/ds/MAX6921-MAX6931.pdf The datasheet tells us

Re: [neonixie-l] Arduino and MAX6921

2013-11-21 Thread Adam Jacobs
a friend of mine who is a lot better at written programming languages can help me a bit. Op donderdag 21 november 2013 21:47:33 UTC+1 schreef Adam Jacobs: Hi Gideon, What are you studying at university? We're starting to get to the point where you should be able to start figuring it out

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IV-11 VFD clock, some questions

2013-11-20 Thread Adam Jacobs
Congratulations! I've always been a big fan of Maxim's sampling policy. I've even abused it (obviously, since I have a drawer-full of their stuff). The only times that I've had them object to any part of a sample request, I was requesting DIP samples. Anything PLCC or surface mount, they're

Re: [neonixie-l] IV-11 VFD clock, some questions

2013-11-19 Thread Adam Jacobs
FYI David: On the clock that I built with IV-11 tubes, I initially started with an anode voltage of 60v; which is the median multiplexed voltage as per this datasheet: http://www.tromop.eu/cms/media/IV-11%20datasheet.pdf and a 1/6 duty cycle (16.67%). That clock was bright. Couldn't sleep in

Re: [neonixie-l] IV-11 VFD clock, some questions

2013-11-19 Thread Adam Jacobs
6-7 dollar a piece +1 euro for a plcc socket, I am trying to keep the costs down a bit. So a method to avoid using these drivers is preferred. HV5812: cheap but shipping costs are 40-50 dollar MAX6921 expensive and/or high shipping costs Op dinsdag 19 november 2013 20:06:50 UTC+1 schreef Adam

Re: [neonixie-l] BAD DEKATRON SELLER fruwlo (Irina Bashkevich) on eBay

2013-11-15 Thread Adam Jacobs
You definitely need to know where your deadlines are in any legal disagreement. Learn them, write them down, and be happy that you didn't lose more than $40. -Adam On 11/15/2013 11:35 AM, Dylan Distasio wrote: Jon- If you paid with PayPal, have you opened a separate case with them? I

Re: [neonixie-l] Atmel clock/timer projects

2013-11-04 Thread Adam Jacobs
Hi John, I haven't done anything with AVR chips in a couple of years now, but I can only add that I've felt your pain. I built a lot of clocks using AVR parts, in a variety of designs and with a variety of AVR chips... and they all had strange repeatable timer issues. I do think that the

Re: [neonixie-l] HV Power Supply Reverse Engineer

2013-10-10 Thread Adam Jacobs
Holy cow... an automotive DC/AC inverter for 1 penny? I'm not as brave as this man, not by a long shot. Every crazy cheap powersupply I've ever bought from China was a fire hazard. I have to assume that this thing is also a fire hazard. :) -73 Adam W7QI On 10/10/2013 2:15 PM, Jonathan

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: bespoke case

2013-05-17 Thread Adam Jacobs
Perhaps it is a feature? I can kind of see a new coined phrase jelly-bean capitalization. -Adam On 5/17/2013 5:07 PM, pewter wrote: To Those That Queried Capitalising The First Letter Of Each Word. This Had Happened Since MY Phone Updated To Jelly Bean. It Only Happens With Some

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!

2013-05-11 Thread Adam Jacobs
It does look like mostly a giant pile of junk... and I agree, there is no telling how many IN-18's are left in the cartel's secret hoard. One thing is for certain: Although every other nixie tube price continues to increase, the IN-18 has stayed bizarrely stable. -Adam On Sat, May 11, 2013 at

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Fascinating ebay sale ... apparently IN-18 production gear!

2013-05-08 Thread Adam Jacobs
There definitely has to be a very limited sort of customer base for an auction such as this one. Kind of reminds me of the Polaroid film Impossible Project people.. They bought the old factory, all of the equipment, and even hired back a ton of the employees. I'm still floored that there is

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: bespoke case

2013-05-07 Thread Adam Jacobs
Great Question! I Also Wondered About Such A Thing. On 5/7/2013 4:54 AM, Terry S wrote: What Prompts A Person To Capitaize The First Letter Of Each Word They Write? On May 7, 4:06 am, pewter ke...@briston-norfolk.co.uk wrote: Has Anyone Had Any Experience And/Or Can Offer Help Regarding

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: bespoke case

2013-05-07 Thread Adam Jacobs
MY FAVORITE IS TO POST AS THOUGH TYPING ON A COMMODORE 64. THERE WAS A TIME WHEN A BBS POST FROM A C64 WAS INSTANTLY RECOGNIZABLE AS SUCH. OH, THE GOOD OLD DAYS. On 5/7/2013 10:01 AM, Nick wrote: Spelling grammar police not welcome here! Having said that, it's a weird way of posting.

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: bespoke case

2013-05-07 Thread Adam Jacobs
their 6581 SID. -Adam On 5/7/2013 10:15 AM, Nicholas Stock wrote: I loved the C64...I still play some games (using an emulator) occasionally on my Macwww.c64.com http://www.c64.com has all the games from yesteryears.ah, memories. On Tue, May 7, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Adam Jacobs jacobs.a

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Where it all started for me.....

2013-05-06 Thread Adam Jacobs
Is it possible that you are piggy-backing somebody else's wi-fi, Nick? Sounds like you might be on the Upside-Down-Ternet... http://www.ex-parrot.com/pete/upside-down-ternet.html -Adam On 5/6/2013 8:14 AM, Nicholas Stock wrote: Did the picture open upside down? I just noticed at my work

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Where it all started for me.....

2013-05-06 Thread Adam Jacobs
network at home, so that's not the issue;-) That's a funny link though! Thanks for sharing.. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:16 AM, Adam Jacobs jacobs.a...@gmail.com mailto:jacobs.a...@gmail.com wrote: Is it possible that you are piggy-backing somebody else's wi-fi, Nick? Sounds like

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sidelit displays - Wales UK

2013-04-21 Thread Adam Jacobs
I was trying to explain this phenomena to a Canadian friend of mine. Guns are a cultural thing in the US. If you're not originally from here, it may not be something that makes a lot of sense... but it's just part of normal. I own some guns as well. Most americans I know own guns. My Canadian

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sourcing Large Quantities of 5870s Nixies

2013-03-14 Thread Adam Jacobs
of the IN12's will raise to IN18's levels... Just seeing the IN14 prices skyrocket is enough... Gaston On Wednesday, March 13, 2013 5:55:18 PM UTC-3, Adam Jacobs wrote: I think that (based on the current supply of nixies), if I was to design and build a new clock right now I would use IN-12

Re: [neonixie-l] Sourcing Large Quantities of 5870s Nixies

2013-03-13 Thread Adam Jacobs
Is a 1970's nixie clock design really the best idea in this day and age? I mean, unless there is something really neat going on with the industrial design? Electronics have come a long way since then. a Nixie clock built using TTL logic is probably not the most cost-effective (or feature

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sourcing Large Quantities of 5870s Nixies

2013-03-13 Thread Adam Jacobs
I like 4-digit clocks as well as 6-digit. Nerds tend to like their 6-digit clocks, it is nice to see the numbers changing. Spouses tend to like the 4-digit versions better, in my experience. I own both types and have built both types. I like both types. :) -Adam On 3/13/2013 11:41 AM, kay486

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Sourcing Large Quantities of 5870s Nixies

2013-03-13 Thread Adam Jacobs
I think that (based on the current supply of nixies), if I was to design and build a new clock right now I would use IN-12's. -Adam On 3/13/2013 1:44 PM, Nicholas Stock wrote: The one nixie clock I've seen on Kickstarter took a different angle on things...

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: NL7094 is a myth!

2013-03-07 Thread Adam Jacobs
That is one cool power tetrode you've got there, Nick. The datasheet alone would make me want to build a linear amplifier around it if I had one. 500w CW at up to 60mhz and 335w to 175mhz? I have no idea how difficult it is to tame the self-oscillations at the higher frequencies on that tube,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok, FLW data to be in Public Domain

2013-02-15 Thread Adam Jacobs
Comments like this one should have been made in private, I think. Sorry, didn't mean to feed the troll. :S -Adam On 2/15/2013 1:55 PM, Greg P wrote: C'mon Ray, what's taking so long, it's been almost 2 months. I guess it's another failed promise. On Dec 31 2012, 2:32 am, MichaelB

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Bruce Nauman exhibition in London

2013-02-05 Thread Adam Jacobs
Words to live by. On 2/5/2013 3:15 PM, Terry S wrote: Sorry, I don't click on any link with mindfuck in it. On Feb 5, 4:49 pm, Nick n...@desmith.net wrote: For lovers of neon art, Brucw Nauman has an (adult) exhibition on in London at Hauser Wirth in Savile Row until March 13th...

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch on TV

2013-01-02 Thread Adam Jacobs
It was neat to see how proud he (woz) was of his nixie watch when I met him. Woz seems like the kind of nerd that gets excited about good electronics designs. I suppose that is where the Apple came from, after all. -Adam On 1/2/2013 12:49 PM, Michel wrote: The Woz will soon wear my version

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: GeekKlok and FLW up for grabs

2012-12-05 Thread Adam Jacobs
I don't have any stake in the Ray story... Wasn't around back then, never paid any money, never expected any product, etc.. The ensuing drama is nothing more than an interesting story to me.. Entertainment, as it were. I'd like to second the recommendation that the FLW design be given to the

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: IN-9's for sale

2012-11-28 Thread Adam Jacobs
I found this at radiomuseum.org: quote At this point, I should clarify the difference between the IN-9 and the IN-13 The IN-13 takes up to 5mA for a 12cm orange glow from Neon gas, and has three electrodes. One perforated cylinder as the anode, a central wire cathode for the glow, and a

Re: [neonixie-l] Harwell Computer

2012-11-20 Thread Adam Jacobs
.. with 828 total dekatrons, maybe a few replacements and spares _IS_ a whole complement of tubes. -Adam On 11/20/2012 7:24 AM, JohnK wrote: That is what I remember hearing. I offered them tubes on their list and a lead on the trigger tubes they needed - got the intial discussion and then

Re: [neonixie-l] Ramsey kits

2012-11-15 Thread Adam Jacobs
Order from ramsey with caution. It takes them an unbelievably long time to get around to shipping anything (think on the order of a month).. their shipping rates are very expensive, and their kits often come with incorrect parts. The good news is that they'll work with you to send you the right

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Second Scope Clock

2012-11-13 Thread Adam Jacobs
Thanks for the timely explanation of your process, I was just about to head down this road of printing my first single sided boards at home. Any recommendations for a first timer? I do have a laserjet 4 already. :) (and a somewhat newer laser printer as well). I have experience in film

[neonixie-l] Lithium battery holder part for eaglecad?

2012-11-13 Thread Adam Jacobs
Does anyone have an eaglecad part for a lithium battery holder? I'm thinking one of the small 3v types like the CR2 or CR123 or really anything that is 3v and not a coin cell. I'm not good enough in eaglecad yet to trust myself to make a custom part, I figure somebody must have done this

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Nixie watch case update

2012-11-07 Thread Adam Jacobs
Steve Wozniak looked pretty pleased with his when he was showing it to me. -Adam On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 4:16 PM, J Forbes jforbnos...@selectric.org wrote: THis doesn't seem to reflect reality.at least the reality of myself and the others I know who own David's nixie watches. On

Re: [neonixie-l] Projection displays hidden in big ebay load - stockport UK

2012-10-24 Thread Adam Jacobs
I wonder how much of it works? I think that he should rename the auction: Need a new hobby? Try this one! LEARN TO REPAIR TUBE OSCILLOSCOPES AND MISCELLANEOUS TEST EQUIPMENT in your spare time! (Caution: This auction requires but does not include a large self-storage unit. Divorce attorney

Re: [neonixie-l] LC-531 and SN74141 problem

2012-10-16 Thread Adam Jacobs
Hello, You should not place a linear regulator (7809) between the transformer and the boost switching supply. Go ahead and remove it. The only components I would place between the transformer and the input to the high voltage supply are maybe a 1n4007 protection diode and one or two bypass

Re: [neonixie-l] LC-531 and SN74141 problem

2012-10-15 Thread Adam Jacobs
There is a chance that you have a bad 74141. I would try disconnecting the 74141 inputs from your uC and try grounding them all. Does everything turn off? try pull one of the inputs high and verify that the correct number is lit. I'd do this before proceeding. If the 74141/Nixie circuit works

Re: [neonixie-l] Very cool Nixie!

2012-10-14 Thread Adam Jacobs
I love it! It brings to mind the old fashioned art of electronics prior to the PCB. I think that I would need to practice with making some much smaller circuits before attempting something like this. Great design. -Adam On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:12 AM, MichaelB badni...@badnixie.com wrote:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: (OT) Ics needed..(they drive the orange glow...)

2012-10-03 Thread Adam Jacobs
Somehow I missed the part where they're full power on the 6m band and partial power on 2m. Sounds like some nice finals to me. -Adam W7QI On 10/3/2012 4:05 PM, Adam Jacobs wrote: WOW! Who's complaining? Build yourself a nice little CW transceiver or linear amplifier. Those old power pentodes

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Why is multiplexing nixie's bad

2012-09-21 Thread Adam Jacobs
I believe that the singing issue is primarily a problem with larger nixie tubes, of which I have no (as of yet) experience. I've never had a problem with singing tubes with IN-12, IN-14, IN-8, IN-8-2, IN-16, IN-17 tubes.. but these are pretty small tubes (18mm digit height or less). never had a

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Why is multiplexing nixie's bad

2012-09-20 Thread Adam Jacobs
You forgot the other pro's: - reduced power consumption - dramatically increased tube life at equal cathode current. -- The point is that there isn't a right answer or a religious opinion. To multiplex or not is really a design decision which should be made based on your product

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Why is multiplexing nixie's bad

2012-09-20 Thread Adam Jacobs
I've definitely used a few inductors that buzzed nastily before. The sound of a coil contracting around a ferrite repeatedly. That's one advantage of using one of those ugly acrylic box cases. :) Great at noise dampening. -Adam On 9/20/2012 11:24 AM, jb-electronics wrote: Hi there, On Thu,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Why is multiplexing nixie's bad

2012-09-20 Thread Adam Jacobs
That was my point, really, I was trying to stay in the same reference frame as your post. Given equal cathode current in both cases, the multiplexed device will have lower brightness and greater tube life. Given equal cathode current, the direct driven device will have higher brightness and

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Why is multiplexing nixie's bad

2012-09-20 Thread Adam Jacobs
I've also seen hot-glue used, especially if the potting is to lower RF noise. I'm a big fan of hot glue. I don't know where I first heard the expression Non-conductive solder, but I've latched onto it happily. I also like that it easily dissolves in acetone. -Adam On 9/20/2012 6:33 PM, Terry

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-13 Spectrum analyzer

2012-09-19 Thread Adam Jacobs
PM, Nicholas Stock wrote: Ascending and descending orange glow tubes, why wouldn't it sell! I'd probably tinker with one...;-) Why only 7 channels? May I ask what frequency ranges you decided to sample? Nick On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 2:28 PM, Adam Jacobs a...@jacobs.us mailto:a...@jacobs.us

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-13 Spectrum analyzer

2012-09-19 Thread Adam Jacobs
Mind sharing the component part number? On 9/19/2012 2:41 PM, Dan Foster wrote: As for why 7 channels, I found a little IC that breaks down audio into DC components (7 to be exact). I have found a fft that runs on AVR microcontrollers but am not sure of its accuracy or how quick it is. So for

Re: [neonixie-l] Why is multiplexing nixie's bad

2012-09-19 Thread Adam Jacobs
I don't think that multiplexing is a bad idea.. On the contrary, it should extend the life (provided that you don't drive the tubes at more current than they are rated for). That's the key, really.. I think that most people drive the tubes at significantly higher than rated currents when they

Re: [neonixie-l] Why is multiplexing nixie's bad

2012-09-19 Thread Adam Jacobs
For in the bedroom, I find the 1x6 mux (at standard current) to be of acceptable brightness. On the contrary, a 1x6 mux VFD clock that I built is _way_ too bright for the house (like you can't sleep for the blue glow). I took the VFD clock to the office and it looks fine there. Relative brightness

[neonixie-l] Supertex?

2012-09-18 Thread Adam Jacobs
I recall a long while back, people were looking into the feasibility of using various Supertex parts for driving Nixies. Can anyone comment on their findings? Thanks, -Adam -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups neonixie-l group. To post to this group,

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: How necessary are sockets?

2012-09-11 Thread Adam Jacobs
Additionally, finding the real sockets to the tubes can be easier said than done. Some sockets are common, others are like hen's teeth.. -Adam On 9/11/2012 11:38 AM, jb-electronics wrote: Yep. Sounds like it would be easier to just get the sockets if I can find them... It depends on your

Re: [neonixie-l] Wanted - a quantity of faulty B7971s

2012-09-04 Thread Adam Jacobs
I was thinking of that as well... What is the voltage needed to cause ionization in air? -Adam On 9/4/2012 11:48 AM, John Rehwinkel wrote: I'm mostly interested in tubes with missing segments but would consider hard to start as well as they may do what I need. Cracked or gassy are no use - it

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: My new Scope Clock site, Oscilloclock.com

2012-09-03 Thread Adam Jacobs
Wow, this is great! Very timely, too! I just found a nice little scope tube at a swapmeet for $1 the other day, looks like I've got no excuse to not light it up now. Thanks again. -Adam W7QI On Mon, Sep 3, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Michel mic...@xiac.com wrote: That is really nice, the characters look

Re: [neonixie-l] eBay Warning on B7871 Tubes auction.

2012-08-31 Thread Adam Jacobs
Michail, Was this seller a domestic (USA) seller? If so, then you can normally sue for your damages in small claims by affidavit. If they're a ukrainian seller... well, good luck. -Adam On 8/31/2012 8:49 AM, micha...@aol.com wrote: The first videos are here.

Re: [neonixie-l] eBay Warning on B7871 Tubes auction.

2012-08-31 Thread Adam Jacobs
Correct, small claims must be filed in the state of the merchant/seller. However, most states/municipalities will allow filing by affidavit if you don't live there. Call the Philadelphia municipal courthouse and ask for their information packet regarding filing small claims from out of state.

Re: [neonixie-l] eBay Warning on B7871 Tubes auction.

2012-08-31 Thread Adam Jacobs
that offer legal advice without law degrees. -Adam On 8/31/2012 11:08 AM, Adam Jacobs wrote: Correct, small claims must be filed in the state of the merchant/seller. However, most states/municipalities will allow filing by affidavit if you don't live there. Call the Philadelphia municipal

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: RS232 line driver

2012-08-24 Thread Adam Jacobs
That is a neat part, too bad that it is no longer in production. Looks like Components Direct sells them individually. http://www.componentsdirect.com/maxim-ds275-pdip-8-package-rs-232-transceiver.html I'm not sure that I would start a new design for manufacture with them, though. -Adam On

Re: [neonixie-l] Design my own Nixie Clock?

2012-08-23 Thread Adam Jacobs
that the reed switches aren't cool and all (I've got some I built that way), but overall, it can be a hassle to try to find the magnet before you set your clock.. and it is trickier as well. -Adam On 8/23/2012 12:19 PM, Quixotic Nixotic wrote: On 15 Aug 2012, at 00:12, Adam Jacobs wrote

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Design my own Nixie Clock?

2012-08-16 Thread Adam Jacobs
I agree with one of the other posters... I think that the best place to start is with an existing design. There are tons available on the internet, you can order parts from mouser.com -Adam On 8/16/2012 9:36 AM, Frederick Heald wrote: Just curious - why not build a kit clock or two to get

Re: [neonixie-l] Design my own Nixie Clock?

2012-08-16 Thread Adam Jacobs
I built a clock around the 6-digit version of this chip... and then I was so impresesed with it, I built another with the 4-digit version. It is a _very_ well designed nixie clock chip. Moses clearly put a lot of work into polishing the design. -Adam On 8/16/2012 10:01 AM, westdave wrote:

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Design my own Nixie Clock?

2012-08-15 Thread Adam Jacobs
I use processors and this doesn't seem elementary to me! I wouldn't say that a microcontroller is more difficult to use than straight logic. On the contrary, I always refer to my penchant for using microcontrollers as cheating.. or the software engineer's way out: Only design enough

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Design my own Nixie Clock?

2012-08-15 Thread Adam Jacobs
Sparkfun isn't bad. Also Limor Fried (ladyada)'s site: http://www.adafruit.com Limor is a member of this group and a great person to deal with. Radio Shack... They're trying to make a comeback into this area of retail, time will tell if they succeed. My experience has been that they cost about

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Design my own Nixie Clock?

2012-08-15 Thread Adam Jacobs
... and my wife thinks that _MY_ clocks are tricky to set! On 8/15/2012 3:54 PM, chuck richards wrote: On the 12/24 selectable version of the '160 clock, when it is in 12-hour mode, the thumbwheels must be left preset for 0100. Then, as David said, it loads that after 12:59:59 Chuck

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Design my own Nixie Clock?

2012-08-15 Thread Adam Jacobs
Also, I should add This is the reason that there is such a thing as a User Interface Engineer. ;) On 8/15/2012 4:05 PM, chuck richards wrote: That is why I vastly prefer the straight 24-hour only version of this circuit. It has simpler logic, one less gate package, and when you are done

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: High Voltage from 9V battery trick

2012-08-14 Thread Adam Jacobs
That's a good idea, especially if you can get them for cheap. I think the 2032 might even have a higher maximum current draw than the 9v. (Probably a lot less total power, though). Do they make lithium 2032's? I guess that would spoil the point of cheap, though. How about silver oxide 357

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: High Voltage from 9V battery trick

2012-08-14 Thread Adam Jacobs
Thanks for the education, David! -Adam On 8/14/2012 8:23 AM, David Forbes wrote: On 8/14/12 8:17 AM, Adam Jacobs wrote: That's a good idea, especially if you can get them for cheap. I think the 2032 might even have a higher maximum current draw than the 9v. (Probably a lot less total power

Re: [neonixie-l] Design my own Nixie Clock?

2012-08-14 Thread Adam Jacobs
Hi Sean, If it was me, I'd probably start with the designs that don't use a microcontroller. There are lots of all-logic designs out there, here is the famous one: http://www.electricstuff.co.uk/nixclock.html Start out by studying existing circuit designs. Also, you might want to invest in

Re: [neonixie-l] High Voltage from 9V battery trick

2012-08-10 Thread Adam Jacobs
This is actually common practice in circles that use mobile vacuum tube radios. Placing a stack of 9-volt batteries in series (which are themselves, actually a stack of 1.5v cells in series) to create a modern B battery. This works fine, since the B battery is a low current draw supply.

Re: [neonixie-l] High Voltage from 9V battery trick

2012-08-10 Thread Adam Jacobs
I think that I've probably separated a few 9v that kids snapped together as well. They just look so doggone tempting. http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=304704 -Adam On 8/10/2012 1:57 PM, David Forbes wrote: On 8/10/12 11:26 AM, Frank Bemelman wrote: Why fiddle with

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Using a standard cell phone charger (USB) as power supply for Nixie project

2012-08-04 Thread Adam Jacobs
One more thing, that I'm always repeating If you find yourself needing an obscure item from an obscure manufacturer that is not sold by digikey or mouser, don't be afraid to call up the manufacturer and ask for a sample. They won't sell it to you directly (probably.. unless you want 50,000 of

Re: [neonixie-l] IN-12 Socket compatibility

2012-07-20 Thread Adam Jacobs
I guarantee that the IN-12 was selected because it is available for cheap and in high quantity.. The fact that it is also 18mm digit height is bonus. (Sad to say, 18mm digit height nowadays is considered very large.) The IN-17 would also be a good solution, since it is also cheap, but I think

Re: [neonixie-l] ZM1030 Dual Anode Nixies Available.

2012-07-16 Thread Adam Jacobs
Hey, I'm interested if nobody else is. :) I'm sure I can find something in my collection to trade. Can one of the bi-quinary masters in the group fill me in on the advantages of these types of tubes? Better multiplex, maybe? -Adam On 7/16/2012 7:23 AM, Jonathan Peakall wrote: Hey now, those

Re: [neonixie-l] where can I get IN-18 tubes at a reasonable price?

2012-07-03 Thread Adam Jacobs
I'm certain that I'm already on plenty of government watch lists, simply from all of the suspicious packages that I receive from the Ukraine Russia... -Adam On 7/3/2012 1:50 PM, Jan Rychter wrote: On 2 lip 2012, at 19:33, Terry S wrote: I'll wager that Dieter also has a growing bin, laden

Re: [neonixie-l] where can I get IN-18 tubes at a reasonable price?

2012-07-01 Thread Adam Jacobs
Looks like they are about $40/each on ebay, same (rough) price that they have been for the last 5 years. I think that when I started with this hobby about 8 years ago, they might have been $30-$32/each. Oddly, IN-18's have been one of the most stable priced nixies in the nixie market. which might

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Arduino-based FLW

2012-06-07 Thread Adam Jacobs
Hi Matthew, You've actually already got the answer: Off is 80-100v. Unlike LED's, Nixies change state from a very high impedance device (below the ignition/striking voltage) until the ignition voltage is achieved, where they become very low impedance. The nixie will stay very low impedance

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Arduino-based FLW

2012-06-06 Thread Adam Jacobs
Another stepping stone you might consider (although it is completely backwards) would be a 16-segment VFD based FLW. I know that I personally would be very interested in such a device, given the significantly higher VFD availability than B7971. VFD's are common cathode and are voltage regulated

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Supertex HV5522 supply current

2012-06-01 Thread Adam Jacobs
That is interesting. My guess is that there are lots of lazy engineers out there that have figured out that the part works OK on 5v. That's why experimentation is so important. If I was going to make a WAG, I'd bet that it works at 5v although probably at slower speeds. Try it with 5v if it is

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Supertex HV5522 supply current

2012-06-01 Thread Adam Jacobs
I understand your point, Terry.. Which I think is the classic Slippery Slope argument. You get used to cutting corners, before you know it you're trying the same tricks at work where you design nuclear reactor cooling systems, the systems fail due to your design choices that were outside of

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Blue Magic Nixie Watch

2012-05-19 Thread Adam Jacobs
:40 pm, Adam Jacobs a...@jacobs.us wrote: Just super-impose the two pictures, that is the best solution. Getting a shot where the watch (a small near object) and the moon (a very very far away object) are anything close to similar in size on the final image are going to be nearly impossible

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Blue Magic Nixie Watch

2012-05-18 Thread Adam Jacobs
Just super-impose the two pictures, that is the best solution. Getting a shot where the watch (a small near object) and the moon (a very very far away object) are anything close to similar in size on the final image are going to be nearly impossible. You could try it with focus-stacking, but even

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: Attention!! NEW Nixie tube cheater at Ebay!!!

2012-05-17 Thread Adam Jacobs
.. and even then, I always have a look at those 2 negative feedbacks. If the seller has 99.995% feedback but the handful of negs in the past month look really crooked, I won't buy. Also, at this point, I pretty much won't buy anything from a seller that is in NJ. I don't know why, but NJ is

Re: [neonixie-l] Current consumption

2012-05-08 Thread Adam Jacobs
You don't specify, but if you are using 74141's, then I would say that is very normal. I believe that each 74141 uses 25ma of current.. So, 150ma just in the driver IC's. Worse, if you're using a linear regulator to get that 150ma @ 5v, then you are turning the rest of your wall-wart's voltage

Re: [neonixie-l] Re: What happend to all the ebay nixies.

2012-04-19 Thread Adam Jacobs
Hm. My first guess is that maybe your search terms on ebay weren't very good.. or maybe the search term you are using is one that only criminal sellers use and ebay recently cracked down? I'm just speculating. I find that it is best to use the actual model number of the device in the search.

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