Wes Hardaker wrote:
I think at this point we should have a config token that at least allows
turning off the logging entirely (which can then also shutdown the cache
maintenance).
You mean like:
foo# snmpd -H 21 | grep -i dontlog
dontLogTCPWrappersConnects (1|yes|true|0|no|false)
foo#
?
Jan Safranek wrote:
This patch advances to the next route from netlink if CONTAINER_INSERT
fails.
+1
Has the patch been tested on a system with and/or without the (former) loop
problem?
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Dave Shield wrote:
Question: is it worth applying this immediately so that
it can be included in the 5.5 release, or should we wait?
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Jan Safranek wrote:
Of course, you must have configured IPv6 on your machine (modprobe ipv6
should be enough, check whether loopback has ipv6 address).
That's probably the problem with these boxes. However, I think the transport
check should detect it and SKIP rather than FAIL in that case.
Sean Boudreau wrote:
Here's the diffs required to get the trunk
compiling against QNX 6.4.1 (configure diffs
omitted since I figure you can generate them
as well but I can send them on request).
Could you please submit this patch to our tracker so it won't get lost (trunk
is currently in
The new UDPv6/TCPv6 transport tests (62, 63) in SVN trunk (5.5.rc1) fail for me
on older RedHat machines, namely:
Redhat Linux 7.1 (kernel 2.4.20)
Redhat Linux 9 (2.4.20)
RHEL 2.1/x86 (2.4.9)
RHEL 3/x86 (2.4.21)
RHEL 3/amd64 (2.4.21)
Looking into the /tmp/snmp-test-* files, I see
Bart Van Assche wrote:
My proposal is to always use the
code c64.high = v64 32; c64.low = v64 0x; since this code
is independent of CPU endianness and since this code does not depend on
how the compiler lays out the members of a struct counter64.
Patches (to our tracker) highly
Bellicini Alberto wrote:
We must compile from source? is there any exe/tar ready to run for AIX
5.3 64 bit?
I suggest building latest net-snmp from source on the AIX 64-bit
machine. See README.aix shipping with the source for additional details.
As for exec oid ... support, please make sure
Johnson, Harry A wrote:
[r...@spycamc4]/usr/local# net-snmp-config --configure-options
'CC=/opt/aCC/bin/cc'
[r...@spycamc4]/usr/local# net-snmp-config --snmpd-module-list
[...]
utilities/iquery host/hr_system host/hr_storage host/hr_device
host/hr_other host/hr_proc host/hr_network
Johnson, Harry A wrote:
gcc -I../include -I. -I../snmplib -g -O2 -Uhpux11 -Dhpux11=hpux11
-D_POSIX_C_SOURCE=199506L -D_REENTRANT -D_HPUX_SOURCE -fPIC
-fno-strict-aliasing -D_LARGEFILE_SOURCE -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64
-I/opt/perl/lib/5.8.0/IA64.ARCHREV_0-thread-multi/CORE -c system.c
-DPIC -o
Johnson, Harry A wrote:
Attached is a piece of the walk in HOST-RESOURCES-MIB..
What's the content of configure-summary in the build directory?
What's the output of
net-snmp-config --configure-options
net-snmp-config --snmpd-module-list
?
+Thomas
Johnson, Harry A wrote:
HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrSWRunIndex
HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrSWRunPath
HOST-RESOURCES-MIB::hrSWRunParameters
I have tried building several versions (with aCC) but no luck.
I have a pre-built version for the PA-RISC architecture that supports
this.
Don't know who built
Magnus Fromreide wrote:
On the web I found indications that CFLAGS=-D_OSF_SOURCE might help.
I haven't tried that yet. But, still:
- building 5.4.x also uses u_long and does work on Tru64 Unix w/o explicitly
setting this flag.
- it only fails on apps/snmpnetstat/if.c after successfully
Thomas Anders wrote:
Magnus Fromreide wrote:
On the web I found indications that CFLAGS=-D_OSF_SOURCE might help.
I haven't tried that yet. But, still:
- building 5.4.x also uses u_long and does work on Tru64 Unix w/o explicitly
setting this flag.
- it only fails on apps/snmpnetstat/if.c
Current 5.5 SVN fails to build on Tru64 Unix 5.1:
[...]
libtool: compile: /opt/fsw/bin/cc -I../../include
-I/home/anders/src/net-snmp-5.5svn/include -I/opt/fsw/libopenssl097/include -g
-Dosf5=osf5 -c /home/anders/src/net-snmp-5.5svn/apps/snmpnetstat/inet6.c -o
inet6.o /dev/null 21
/bin/sh
hareesh wrote:
making all in /Desktop/net-snmp-5.4.2.1/agent
/bin/sh ../libtool --mode=compile gcc -I../include -I. -I../agent
-I../agent/mibgroup -I../snmplib -I/usr/local/ssl/include -g -O2
-Usolaris2 -Dsolaris2=solaris2 -c -o snmp_vars.lo snmp_vars.c
gcc -I../include -I. -I../agent
down Load wrote:
NET-SNMP version 5.4.2.1
What system/OS are you running net-snmp on? (uname -a)
What's the output of net-snmp-config --configure-options?
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7)/usr/local/bin#./snmpget -v 1 -c public localhost hrStorageType.45
Timeout: No Response from localhost.
8)/usr/local/bin#ps -ef|grep snmpd
root 1134822 3330148 0 17:24:29 pts/1 0:00 grep snmpd
9)/usr/local/bin#uname -a
AIX sapdev 3 5 0008B7BED700
Sounds like a
The following patch
r17362 | jsafranek | 2009-01-19 16:01:42 +0100 (Mo, 19 Jan 2009) | 1 line
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on Linux
The following patch
r17389 | hardaker | 2009-02-16 22:24:09 +0100 (Mo, 16 Feb 2009) | 1 line
CHANGES: perl: BUG 1554817: Patch from xanco: fix the class assigment so
getRootOID works properly.
Bart Van Assche wrote:
When I tried to compile net-snmp 5.4.2.1 with Visual Studio 2005 this
resulted in several compiler warnings and one compiler error. Can
someone please review the patch below and either apply or reject it ?
Could you please submit the patch to
Krzysztof Oledzki wrote:
Attached patch fixes this.
Thanks for the patch. Could you please submit it to
http://www.net-snmp.org/patches so it won't get lost?
Same for your other patch.
Cheers,
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ayush.pat...@wipro.com wrote:
I am unable to run multiple snmpd agents on solaris machine.
Unfortunately, your query lacks helpful details.
Use latest net-snmp 5.4.2.1, and fire two agents (in seperate shells) as
follows:
snmpd -f -Le -r -C -Y rocommunity=foobar localhost:8161
snmpd -f -Le
Bernadette Eyre wrote:
I built the net-snmp 5.4.2.1 binaries from source on one machine and ran
the install to install the files in build dir on the same machine. I
then manually copied files to the target machine. I copied the supplied
MIB files to /usr/local/share/snmp/mibs directory, the
jamshid omidi wrote:
i use freebsd 7
and i went install snmp from port collection
i go to /usr/ports/net-mgmt/net-snmp and run
make
in middle of work suddenly power down and my system power off
now when i want install and run make again
a message appear like this
stop in
Eugene Yasman wrote:
Although the flag difinition (#define WATCHER_SIZE_STRLEN 0x08) could
be found in current SVN repository trunk and the comment says 'since
Net-SNMP 5.5'.
The same would be true for your proposed helper if we'd add it. New
features/additions (in other words: anything
koteswararao kelam wrote:
I am using net-snmp release 5.3.0.1 http://5.3.0.1 daemon. And I am
doing snmp walk in a loop continuously. After 3 or 4 days it consumed
3MB memory. Do I need to upgrade to latest version of snmpd to fix this
*memory leak*? If so which one?
There's a good chance
Kobi Vaknin (kvaknin) wrote:
Do you know if specific problem was known and already fixed ?
The list of fixes between 5.3.1 and 5.4.2 is quite long. See the ChangeLog file
that ships with 5.4.2 for details.
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Kobi Vaknin (kvaknin) wrote:
I've took the patch *[ net-snmp-Patches-1944581 ] Core dump in net-snmp
for long value of string index *
*but now the agent (snmpd) crash .*
Try again with net-snmp 5.4.2 and report back, please.
+Thomas
ainzuri wrote:
We are performing some tests with netsnmp and the results have not been
satisfactory. The tests have been made on a Solaris 10 X86 operating
system. We have generated a program using the mib2c program, based on
the mib2c.interate.conf template.
What net-snmp version are you
dan anderson wrote:
Er, I just realized that the net-snmp site says to submit patches
using this list, but I don't recall actually seeing any - is this the
right place?
Not sure where this is stated. The best place by nature in fact is the
project's patches tracker:
Ruchi Sharma(IN5962) wrote:
/opt/mv_pro_4.0.1/montavista/pro/devkit/arm/v5t_le/bin/../lib/gcc/armv5tl-montavista-linuxeabi/3.4.3/../../../../armv5tl-montavista-linuxeabi/bin/ld:
skipping incompatible
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.8/i386-linux-thread-multi/CORE/libperl.so when
searching for -lperl
You
Krzysztof Oledzki wrote:
With the attached patch:
Could you please submit your patch to http://www.net-snmp.org/patches so
it won't get lost?
Cheers,
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Oleg Rabinovich wrote:
Is there any changes after the release (5.4.2) that can affect this issue?
I can try to build it from SVN trunk if needed.
Yes, I'd say it's worth a try.
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current SVN trunk and report back?
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Ahmed Teirelbar wrote:
We use net-snmp and we ran it through this software analysis toolset and
it brought up some issues. Here is a patch that addresses most of them,
it is mostly small things, missing checks or missing frees in error
handling cases. If you reply, send copy me, reply to me
Magnus Fromreide wrote:
I think the compiler-choice patch is what you are asking for?
For the rest of you, do you think it is a good thing?
What problems does it promise to solve by just dropping support for
--with-{cc,cflags,ld,ldflags,ar,libs}?
I think the big-endian patch is the way to
ravindra Chavalam wrote:
I solved the issue by doing some source code changes
Now that we've been providing help, would you mind returning the favor and
submit your changes back to the project? http://www.net-snmp.org/patches would
be the ideal place. Thank you.
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It'll need a volunteer to look through
agent/mibgroup/hardware/memory/memory_hpux.c and find out what's going wrong.
If you have any idea, please let us know (through the bug tracker, ideally).
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Dave Shield wrote:
I suspect that this might be broken in the previous code too,
but simply never got triggered, with the SLASH_PROC_METHOD
code being used instead. Unfortunately, the config_require
processing is currently done *before* these definitions are
available, so the new code
Dave,
Undefined first referenced
symbol in file
kd ./.libs/libnetsnmpmibs.so
H...
can you please check whether this compilation:
a) includes the object 'agent/kernel.o'
b) defines
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Revision: 17156
http://net-snmp.svn.sourceforge.net/net-snmp/?rev=17156view=rev
Author: dts12
Date: 2008-08-14 15:54:25 + (Thu, 14 Aug 2008)
Log Message:
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SWRun processing needs access to the internals of 'struct user'
(Solaris)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Revision: 17157
http://net-snmp.svn.sourceforge.net/net-snmp/?rev=17157view=rev
Author: hardaker
Date: 2008-08-15 13:45:20 + (Fri, 15 Aug 2008)
Log Message:
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NEWS: snmpusm: PATCH: 1591355: from ppassera: Allow cloning to engineIDs
Lacey James-CJL023 wrote:
I'm trying to cross-compile net-snmp-5.4.12 for MIPS-Linux on an
x86-Linux host using and RMI cross-compiler.
Everything goes fine until I get to the net-snmp/perl/default_store
module when for reasons unknown to me, the make system switches from
using the RMI
/libnetsnmpmibs.so: undefined reference to `rpmdbInitIterator'
./.libs/libnetsnmpmibs.so: undefined reference to `rpmdbNextIterator'
./.libs/libnetsnmpmibs.so: undefined reference to `rpmdbFreeIterator'
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Dave Shield wrote:
2008/7/28 Thomas Anders [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Is --enable-new-features --without-rpm supposed to be supported (in SVN
trunk)?
Not yet.
I've been discussing the handling of RPM-based swInstTable
with Jeff Johnson, and that's the next thing to add.
What would be more
Matjaz Vrecko wrote:
apps/snmptrapd_log.c
in line 1091, on undefined constants:
SNMP_VERSION_1 and SNMP_VERSION_2c
What net-snmp version are you using? I can't find this problem in current SVN.
Can you please retest with 5.4.2.pre2?
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/11467.html).
The generic approach through configure is something like:
./configure --with-cflags=-DNETSNMP_TEMP_FILE_PATTERN=xxx
Not sexy, but powerful. :-)
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it myself shortly after hitting 'Send'.
The --with-cflags=-D... approach doesn't work for settings that are
unconditionally defined in net-snmp-config.h, unfortunately. I agree there
should be a way other than hacking net-snmp-config.h, though.
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Thompson, Nathan wrote:
I am having trouble compiling the code on HP-UX.
Can someone guide me on how to compile this on HP-UX so I can create a
new snmptrapd executable with the above change?
Would you mind sharing the details of your build problems with us to
enable us to actually help
Paul wrote:
./trap: error while loading shared libraries: libnetsnmp.so.15: cannot
open shared object file: No such file or directory.
I am sure there are netsnmp libraries in /usr/local/lib.
Why do I get this error?
man ldconfig
+Thomas
deka aditia wrote:
I've check, there are no snmpd in there ...
Then check the output of make install because it *tells* you where it
installs snmpd.
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Paul wrote:
I got an error when I installed net-smp-5.4.1.2, and the error message
is as following:
...
/usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl
Please tell us the exact sequence of commands you've been using
(configure options etc.). After you've hit the problem, please re-run
the last command and
Peter Volkov wrote:
Does net-snmp needs libelf on linux and if yes then for what? I
found elfutils-libelf-devel in redhat .spec and other distributions have
similar dependency.
Actually I can't see why it'd be needed on Linux in general either. At
least for my local builds on SuSE, snmpd
release,
so fixing that line may have to wait until after that is out.
I'm hereby calling for votes to include this fix (r17048) in 5.2.5.
+1
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Alejandro Islas wrote:
Thanks!!! Now its working, I'll include my code to the generated files
and test it, I'll let you know what happens. Could you please send me a
repository address from which I can download version 5.4.x from
synaptic?? I just can't find it...
Pick up the 5.4.x SVN
Srikanth Eswaran wrote:
I am trying to get net-snmp 5.4.2 to be compiled on a broadcom 7400
platform. This is a cross compilation for a mipsel-uclibc target from a
x86 linux host (runnin fedora linux)
[...]
.libs/snmpd.o:1: error: stray '\127' in program'
[...]
The error file is about 114
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Revision: 16831
http://net-snmp.svn.sourceforge.net/net-snmp/?rev=16831view=rev
Author: hardaker
Date: 2008-02-22 16:59:03 -0800 (Fri, 22 Feb 2008)
Log Message:
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NEWS: snmpd: PATCH: 1705594: from c_varun: Fix various aspects of linux
Chris Larson wrote:
I've run into a segmentation fault in net-snmp version 5.4 on our
product, when there's a cpuIdle or alert set up in snmpd.conf.
Would it be possible for you to try with 5.4.2.pre1 instead or is it too
much integration work? This bug may have been fixed already, so it may
are supported from common debian.tar.gz and
net-snmp.dsc files.
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Wes Hardaker wrote:
It's one of those things that was done the way it is and was intended to
be rewritten at a later date but never was.
Contributions *highly* appreciated, of course!
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Magnus Fromreide wrote:
The patch adds a check for the lower bound of the range in addition to
the old check for the upper bound.
Should it stay applied?
Not worth backing out! :-)
+1
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Revision: 16983
http://net-snmp.svn.sourceforge.net/net-snmp/?rev=16983view=rev
Author: tanders
Date: 2008-05-31 23:45:23 -0700 (Sat, 31 May 2008)
Log Message:
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NEWS: snmptrapd: BUG: 1955227: Memory leak for embedded Perl on x86_64
Magnus Fromreide wrote:
I would like to start changing all the const u_char*'s used to accept
arbitrary pointers into const void*'s.
Fine by me.
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Magnus Fromreide wrote:
* How to update README.agent-mibs when using the old/new feature?
I settled for adding a new line for the updated version.
I'm much in favor of documenting the rewrite in README.agent-mibs even
if it's not enabled by default. Otherwise, where else would
Rakesh Pandit wrote:
[2] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=389631
AFAICS that bugreport (against net-snmp) is closed with resolution
NOTABUG and the last entry is from Bernard Johnson saying that he'll try
fixing the bug on his side.
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Chris wrote:
Hi, I noticed this value now doesnt work on FreeBSD in version 5.4
[...]
If I am correct for other values it uses sysctl to fetch values which
in that case the following value will work on FreeBSD for the buffer
size.
sysctl vfs.bufspace
example result in bytes
Dave Shield wrote:
To answer my own question - the 5.2.5.pre1 tarball
actually contains the current development trunk code.
D'oh! I'd suggest to hide the tarball immediately and publish 5.2.5.pre2 ASAP.
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Wes Hardaker wrote:
On Tue, 22 Apr 2008 16:32:15 +0100, Dave Shield [EMAIL PROTECTED]
said:
DS I have a vague recollection of something similar arising in the
DS past.
And every time we fix it, we break it on some other set of opposite byte
swapped systems.
Grr...
I'm not sure it's
Dave Shield wrote:
Firstly, the default run of configure does not detect the
characteristics of the system correctly. This is due to the
activation of --enable-embedded-perl which introduces an
invalid set of compiler flags.
The first sentence should be true for 5.4.x, but not for 5.2.x
Alejandro Islas wrote:
However, when I
launch snmpd via the /etc/init.d/snmpd file I do not have remote access
to my tables and can only read them via localhost. I checked the snmpd
file in /etc/init.d and everything seems to be fine.
[...]
# Reads config file (will override defaults above)
Larry Dickson schrieb:
Going on, I discovered man/snmpd.examples.5 suggested putting single
quotes (?) around do *.pl in the perl do line, and doing that made
Bareword go away, but still does not seem to do anything (like loading a
subagent where ps ax can see it).
The perl directive is for
Amit Kumar wrote:
I upgraded the openssl version to openssl-0.9.8d and the path i am
giving is --with-openssl=../openssl but still it is comming as blank .
Please specify an absolute path to the OpenSSL install directory.
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Chris Coyle wrote:
Example code is attached (test_for_snmplist). The behavior I would see
previous to the patch was that all threads but one would hang waiting
for a response PDU, presumably because the Traditional API synch call
collects all the return information from any active SNMP
Mark Seger wrote:
However, when I do my rpmbuild I get an error.
Could you please tell us what system (OS version) you're using and what
exact steps you've taken in both cases? Also, a longer snippet from the
output before the error would be helpful.
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Magnus Fromreide wrote:
I have a rewrite of sysORTable that have the following advantages and
disadvantages:
Without having done a full review yet, I must say I like what you did.
I'd be fine with committing it to trunk.
Another problem of this patch is that it fails to follow the rules set
) has added a few of them. Could you
please update your patch against current SVN trunk and submit it to our patch
tracker so it won't get lost?
http://www.net-snmp.org/patches
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Athena G wrote:
I have a fix to bug 1689163 and would like to contribute it to the
mailing list. I believe 1058412 is of the same problem but I haven't
tested the fix on that scenario. Should I just submit it to
http://www.net-snmp.org/patches/? Do we need some code review?
Please submit the
/MinGW
(Should this be applied to other branches? If so, which?)
It just cleans up the PATH w/o really fixing a bug, right? If so, I'd say trunk
only.
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Dave Shield schrieb:
On 07/03/2008, Thomas Anders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
CHANGES: build: BUG: 1823381: Use a sensible default MIBDIR path
on Cygwin/MinGW
(Should this be applied to other branches? If so, which?)
It just cleans up the PATH w/o really
-directory?
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Revision: 16834
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Author: nba
Date: 2008-02-26 12:45:25 -0800 (Tue, 26 Feb 2008)
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Nathan Schrenk wrote:
Is there any work planned to fix either of these problems? If not, if I
were to modify the library to throw exceptions from the snmpget,
snmpwalk, etc, functions when they encountered errors and submit a
patch, would the NET-SNMP developers have any objection in
for various OS before 5.4.
Furthermore, --enable-ipv6 currently enables both the UDPIPv6/TCPIPv6
transports *and* the (deprecated) mibII/ipv6 MIB module (but not necessarily
the newer ones, AFAICS). We also need a consistent approach here.
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Nilesh Borate wrote:
I see T120proxyget and T121proxyset tests failing with udp6.
( NET-SNMP version: 5.4.1.pre3 )
Is it a known bug ? Please let me know.
How exactly are you calling make test?
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Nathan Schrenk wrote:
Attached is a patch that handles a new exactEngineID command in
snmpd.conf. Is this something that the maintainers of NET-SNMP think is
useful? If so, do you have any suggestions for changes, and would you
consider adding this to a future NET-SNMP release?
My gut
Dan Miller (Kromos) wrote:
- besides which, how do I tell configure about my own library(ies) ???
Previously, I was manually editing agent/Makefile and apps/Makefile after
running configure, but that doesn't seem to be working right now, I can't
figure out where to add my library anymore.
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Dan Miller (Kromos) wrote:
In the old days (linux kernel 2.2, UCD snmpd 4.1), we could just distribute
snmpd alone, and it worked. It was a 1.6MB file, but it worked. Is there
any way that I can build net-snmp (in ucd compat mode) so that the one file
is complete and ready to run?? I
Magnus Fromreide wrote;
I saw someone editing something about the net-snmp PHP interface in the
wiki TODO list and that got me asking if there is a PHP interface
included with net-snmp.
If there isn't then I think it is questionable that discussion about it
appears in the net-snmp TODO list.
Robert Story wrote:
On Wed, 19 Dec 2007 18:47:43 +0100 Thomas wrote:
TA [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb:
TA Hello, I've not much experience with Unix,C or make. I'm trying to do a
TA make on net-snmp 5.4.1 running on Solaris 8. This is the output from
make…
TA
TA Make sure you have
?
Cheers,
Thomas
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running on?
Is this a stock 5.3.1 version compiled from source or a vendor package?
Can you retest with 5.3.2.rc1, please?
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