Re: [NetBehaviour] We wont fly for art

2009-04-16 Thread patrick simons
Hi Ruth Paint is oil based, as is our economy there is a direct link, as direct as a flight from Cornwall to Dublin anyway. peak oil padsxxx On Wed, Apr 15, 2009 at 8:19 PM, Ruth Catlow ruth.cat...@furtherfield.orgwrote: Hi Patrick, I pledge to never Paint in my pursuit. I

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread Pall Thayer
anymore. But I still fly about once a month, with two or three long-hauls a year. What can I do? Stop showing art? Shift my practice from installation I would assume that the shorter flights are more destructive than the long-hauls as it takes a lot more energy to put a plane in the sky than it

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread Tim Cowlishaw
On 16 Apr 2009, at 10:10, helen varley jamieson wrote: yes turning off lights appliances, not overheating buildings, is just as (maybe more?) important as reducing flights driving. i don't have the stats but i understand that even turning off things like computers stereos at the wall can

Re: [NetBehaviour] reconnecting to netbehaviour...

2009-04-16 Thread marc garrett
Hi Helen, I did for a moment shudder when considering something similar, but in all honesty it is something less interesting and boring. The server is full and we are currently getting rid of even more junk on there - freeing up space. marc perhaps it is a conspiracy by the airline companies

[NetBehaviour] Ada Lovelace Day news...

2009-04-16 Thread marc garrett
Ada Lovelace Day news... Just to let everyone know - the Ada Lovelace page has been uploaded, almost ready to go. Will post it on here later on :-) marc ___ NetBehaviour mailing list NetBehaviour@netbehaviour.org

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread Tim Cowlishaw
What is the carbon footprint of using Skype? Massive server-farms probably have footprints similar to airports. Has anyone done a comparative analysis on this? Skype actually uses a peer-to-peer protocol, so there shouldn't be any need for huge server farms (although the network

Re: [NetBehaviour] as if it were an apple

2009-04-16 Thread marc garrett
Hi James, Perhaps you were the apple was you... But, who is the biter? m :-) this morning i dreampt i ate my hand as if it were an apple. it was my left hand i ate and i ate it like an apple. just the stump of my hand was left, just above the wrist... did i mention, i ate it like an apple?

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread richard willis
hey all i took this pledge, but it's easy for me as i barely get any time to dedicate to art as it is, the idea that i would have the time and money to fly somewhere to see it is almost absurd. for some of you guys it looks more challenging, and it really the challenged that should be taking this

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread Simon Biggs
I don¹t travel around to look at art. I agree, that would be a luxury. I travel to put art in front of audiences ­ or to attend meetings that are intended to make things happen, or setup new connections between institutions, artists and others, or assist others in achieving their aims. The

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread helen varley jamieson
yes turning off lights appliances, not overheating buildings, is just as (maybe more?) important as reducing flights driving. i don't have the stats but i understand that even turning off things like computers stereos at the wall can make a difference. h : ) Simon Biggs wrote: Then I am

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread Simon Biggs
Then I am doubly a poor global citizen. I have computers coming out of my ears. I guess my only contribution to reducing my carbon footprint is that I don¹t throw them away but either keep them to maintain backward compatability or give them to others more needy. On the other hand, at eca we are

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread isabel brison
Hello everyone, I'd like to share some thoughts about the fly for art topic. First of all, I haven't taken the pledge because I've actually got a flight booked for next month. But I rarely fly for art, so I don't think it will make much difference anyway. I think the problem is much bigger than

[NetBehaviour] Emotional Cartography: Technologies of the Self

2009-04-16 Thread Jim Prevett
Join us for drinks and discussion at the book launch, which will include talks by the editor Christian Nold as well as Dr Tom Stafford and Sophie Hope. A number of free copies of the book will be available on the evening. Friday 24th April 2009 6.30 -9pm SPACE, Hackney Emotional Cartographies:

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread richard willis
my understanding of this pledge was that it was aimed at punters rather than artists. i wouldn't fly to reykjavik to see the sugarcubes, i'd wait until they turned up playing a gig in brighton [where i live] or london. the band should travel, the audience remain at home. same goes for yourself or

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread marc garrett
Hi Richard, To save confusion here is a copy of the main text from the pledge: This is a public art experiment in the de-escalation of carbon-fuelled, high altitude, high-velocity, global art careering. For six months we choose to cover less physical distance, move more slowly between

[NetBehaviour] CALL FOR ENTRIES!!!X Media Forum in the frames of Moscow International Film Festival

2009-04-16 Thread Alina MediaArtLab
The hole media spectrum: cinema extension! MediaArtLab Centre for Culture has started to receive requests for taking part in Media Forum 2009. It will be held in the frame of 31 Moscow International Film Festival from 23 to 28 of June. This is the 10 years Media Forum exists. The objective of

[NetBehaviour] no fly or new communication

2009-04-16 Thread Jason Nelson
today I was rummaging through calls for artwork for my students. And I've noticed a drop as of late in the calls for work specifically targeting anything remotely close to net art. most of them are for festivals, requiring some performative aspect, or searching for more mechanical contraptions,

[NetBehaviour] some stats fly vs net

2009-04-16 Thread Jason Nelson
All, here are a few statsto fly from Brisbane to LAX it costs the env 4,184 lbs CO2 per person http://www.terrapass.com/carbon-footprint-calculator/#air to use a website the CO2 carbon output is: Wissner-Gross told TechNewsWorld. Our work has nothing to do with Google. Our focus was

Re: [NetBehaviour] some stats fly vs net

2009-04-16 Thread Simon Biggs
OK, so what is the carbon footprint of flying in Second Life? This probably uses a bit more processing power on both the server, the network and the client computer than visiting a website. Sorry ­ I am being facetious... Regards Simon Simon Biggs Research Professor edinburgh college of art

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread helen varley jamieson
er - what about net art? cyberformance? networked performance? broadcast music? webcasting? art on telly? (i think that does happen, occasionally) ... there is a wealth of art that can be experienced without leaving the comfort of your own home. i didn't understand the pledge as being about

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread Catherine Daly
Hi, I don't have a high-flying art career. I have a pretty big carbon footprint, though. But it seems as though this project is negatively motivated, minimalist through purification, not simplicity: stop, avoid, less,careering. I feel that we've just gotten to the point where outside the major

Re: [NetBehaviour] We won't fly for art : Take the Pledge

2009-04-16 Thread richard willis
i didn't understand the pledge as being about flying to experience/view art, but flying for our art careers that was just me not reading it carefully enough! as you were 2009/4/16 helen varley jamieson he...@creative-catalyst.com er - what about net art? cyberformance? networked performance?

Re: [NetBehaviour] as if it were an apple

2009-04-16 Thread james morris
Perhaps you were the apple was you... There was no object called apple. The dream-self had a thought referring to the eating of an apple: Eating my own hand was a normal thing to do, just like eating an apple is. But, who is the biter? Well, yesterday my dream interpretation skills lead me

[NetBehaviour] free_soft

2009-04-16 Thread kasiataka
We are few people working on various artistic projects on the Net and we would like to share with you one of them. We started to work with few other artists only with Internet as collaborative tool. As we all feel concern by copyrights issues and its influence on creativity, we had the idea to

[NetBehaviour] Democrats Letting Net Neutrality Die

2009-04-16 Thread james morris
I'm not following this a great deal, but it will interest some of you (although I guess those really interested might have a better source?) \ \ _\| http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2009/04/13/democrats-letting-net-neutrality-die + some interesting comments.

Re: [NetBehaviour] no fly or new communication

2009-04-16 Thread helen varley jamieson
have you given your students the call for the 090909 UpStage festival? they can perform to audiences around the world without flying anywhere. http://upstage.org.nz/blog/?page_id=210 h : ) Jason Nelson wrote: today I was rummaging through calls for artwork for my students. And I've noticed

Re: [NetBehaviour] some stats fly vs net

2009-04-16 Thread marc garrett
Hi Simon, Regarding second life - you may have point. I seem to remember there was some kind of survey based on google servers and their carbon foot print. marc OK, so what is the carbon footprint of flying in Second Life? This probably uses a bit more processing power on both the server,

Re: [NetBehaviour] some stats fly vs net

2009-04-16 Thread helen varley jamieson
here is the one about second life avatars having the same footprint as the average brasilian: http://www.roughtype.com/archives/2006/12/avatars_consume.php marc garrett wrote: Hi Simon, Regarding second life - you may have point. I seem to remember there was some kind of survey based on

[NetBehaviour] Devils avocado

2009-04-16 Thread Roger Mills
Hi Everyone, Something I haven't noticed (and sorry if it's escaped my attention) in the discussion on the don't fly for art pledge is that there should be a recognition that we shouldn't go by ship or have anything shipped for art either. Possibly given that shipping produces twice the