netbsd flag raising image - any high resolution version available?

2023-11-21 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, is there a high resolution version of the image (at link below) available? http://netbsd.org/images/NetBSD-old.jpg thanks. -mayuresh

Re: is /bin/sh the almquist shell?

2022-03-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
> From k...@munnari.oz.au Wed Mar 30 02:55:37 2022 > From: Robert Elz > To: Mayuresh Kathe > cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: is /bin/sh the almquist shell? > Content-ID: <4606.164860862...@jinx.noi.kre.to> > > Date:Tue, 29 Mar 2022 23:34:08 G

Re: is /bin/sh the almquist shell?

2022-03-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-mayuresh=sdf@netbsd.org Tue Mar 29 > 15:44:08 2022 > From: Robert Elz > To: Mayuresh Kathe > cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: is /bin/sh the almquist shell? > Content-ID: <23186.164856859...@jinx.noi.kre.to> > >

is /bin/sh the almquist shell?

2022-03-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
could i get confirmation that the /bin/sh under netbsd is indeed the "almquist shell"? thank you.

Re: pkgsrc : dependencies : determination : how?

2022-03-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
> From mar...@duskware.de Tue Mar 29 12:56:41 2022 > From: Martin Husemann > To: Mayuresh Kathe > Cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: pkgsrc : dependencies : determination : how? > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 12:45:35PM +, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > the point

Re: pkgsrc : dependencies : determination : how?

2022-03-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-mayuresh=sdf@netbsd.org Tue Mar 29 > 09:30:49 2022 > From: Martin Husemann > To: Mayuresh Kathe > Cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: pkgsrc : dependencies : determination : how? > > On Tue, Mar 29, 2022 at 09:15:34AM +00

pkgsrc : dependencies : determination : how?

2022-03-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
i would like to understand how pkgsrc determines the dependencies for a given package, and how does it go about handling them during installs, uninstalls, etc. i've heard about some such systems using "sat solvers". is there a similar sub-system being used by pkgsrc? thank you.

RE: my self-training regimen : good enough?

2021-11-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
0-Part_1 > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > Then you might find this more helpful > https://www.edx.= > org/course/introduction-computer-science-harvardx-cs50x > > On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 at 9:01 am Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > thank

ifunc useful?

2021-11-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
would the ifunc capability be useful under netbsd? https://jasoncc.github.io/gnu_gcc_glibc/gnu-ifunc.html gnu/linux obviously has it, and freebsd have their own implementation. there's a similar but way more advanced technology provided under solaris/illumos called sunw_cap. do consider.

RE: my self-training regimen : good enough?

2021-11-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
d enough? > > _NmP-b28492ba9328f304-Part_1 > Content-Type: text/plain > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > > My suggestion https://stevens.netmeister.org/631/netbsd.html > > On Tue, 30 Nov 2021 at 8:20 am Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > i intend to follow t

my self-training regimen : good enough?

2021-11-29 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
i intend to follow the self-training regimen mentioned below; c primer plus (prata) c programming: a modern approach (king) c unleashed (heathfield, kirby) pointers on c (reek) foundations of computer science: c edition (aho, ullman) algorithms in c: parts 1 - 5 (sedgewick) computer systems: a prog

internals study : prerequisite : book?

2021-11-28 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
would the book "modern operating systems" by tanenbaum and bos, be good enough to prepare one to start study of the internals?

is c99 permitted within the kernel?

2021-11-27 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
if i remember correctly, c99 is not allowed within the userland that is closest to the kernel, i.e. those tools and utilities which are required just after the kernel boots up. given that, is c99 permitted within the kernel?

systems administration tutorial/manual?

2021-11-27 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
quite some time back, there was a discussion where-in a netbsd old-timer had mentioned that he had a draft for an introduction to netbsd and it's administration which he'd planned to release as a book. i don't remember that person's name, but do remember him to be the same person who had developed

what is systems programming?

2021-11-27 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
i have been a programmer since 1991, but have always written applications, mostly with c++. i don't have any formal training in the field of computer science, though i do have a professional diploma in network centered computing; something which would be called a community college education is the

skills to document the netbsd kernel?

2021-04-13 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
while i possess decent technical skills, i lack knowledge of ansi-c which i believe would be a must to read the source of the netbsd kernel and most of the userland. my question is; what topics should i acquire command over to understand the netbsd kernel source with the intent of documenting it? i

project primarily for experienced users?

2021-03-28 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
would netbsd be categorized as a project that is primarily meant for people who are experienced at the unix way? i haven't experienced any hostility out here (unlike at openbsd), but the typical default install does feel scary.

why the c99 mandate?

2020-04-09 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
i read somewhere that the netbsd project now mandates that all new code be c99. i believe that mandate stands true for updates to old code too. may i know the rationale for insisting of c99 when c89 was just fine for so many years? also if the change was inevitable, then why not a newer standard l

log-structured filesystem in netbsd : still there?

2019-08-04 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
there used to be a filesystem called the log-structured filesystem which was a great idea but poorly implemented in 'bsd'. i have heard that freebsd and openbsd have opted to remove it, but netbsd kept it active and even continued development on it from 4.x onwards. is it true? what is that filesys

csapp, really good?

2019-06-07 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
i stumbled upon "computer systems: a programmer's perspective" (url: csapp.cs.cmu.edu) and it looks like a really interesting book for a newbie to systems programming under unix. is it really good to warrant a purchase (expensive), or would the book by "maurice bach" be considered good enough, thou

a decent wifi dongle?

2019-06-02 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
i am currently using a tp-link wifi dongle (thumbnail variety). not only does the dongle heat-up big time, but it also overworks my wifi access point to the point of failure. i have tested it multiple times, with the same results. would you know of a different wifi dongle which won't cause the prob

how come netbsd is so high-performant?

2019-05-27 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
in spite of having a "hardware abstraction layer", how come netbsd is so much more higher performant than other bsd systems? the whole system while using at the console feels so zippy and so responsive that it's a joy to use, especially to someone like me who is coming over from openbsd and has pla

Re: porting mosix to netbsd

2019-05-17 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
> From mar...@duskware.de Fri May 17 07:52:13 2019 > From: Martin Husemann > To: Mayuresh Kathe > Cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: porting mosix to netbsd > > On Fri, May 17, 2019 at 07:23:40AM +, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > i need to have an end-goal to

where are graph algorithms used under an operating system project?

2019-05-17 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
due to a lack of background in formal computer science, i was under the impression that graph algorithms are only useful in networking related applications/areas. just noticed that even scheduling requires some level of graph algorithm knowledge. am i right in my reading/observation? if not which a

porting mosix to netbsd

2019-05-17 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
my last mail to the list was probably incorrectly worded, i am restating it now. would writing code which works about the "hardware abstraction layer" of netbsd require one to have a good grasp of assembler? i need to have an end-goal to focus on my studies, i have chosen one such by wanting to hav

code above 'hal' : knowledge of assembler neccessary?

2019-05-07 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
if i wish to write code at the kernel level, but above the 'hal' would it be necessary for me to have a good command over low level assembler? or just a superficial introduction to assembler be good enough? thanks.

why 2 mails every time?

2019-04-21 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
why do i get 2 emails every time there's a reply to any email by me or to me? earlier i thought it was my mail client (mailx) which was doing something crazy, but it isn't so, a simply reply to netbsd-users goes out and sends me 2 copies of that same mail. like clock-work.

Re: netbsd : internals : bach book : good to start-off?

2019-04-21 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-mayuresh=sdf@netbsd.org Mon Apr 22 > 04:55:39 2019 > From: Robert Elz > To: Mayuresh Kathe > cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: netbsd : internals : bach book : good to start-off? > > Date:Mon, 22 Apr 2019

Re: netbsd : internals : bach book : good to start-off?

2019-04-21 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-mayuresh=sdf@netbsd.org Mon Apr 22 > 04:31:24 2019 > From: Robert Elz > To: Mayuresh Kathe > cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: netbsd : internals : bach book : good to start-off? > > Date:Mon, 22 Apr 2019

Re: is netbsd actually a toolkit?

2019-04-21 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
thanks for that jay, looking at the netbsd using lynx prevents one from going to a lot of places on the website. > From jaypatel@gmail.com Mon Apr 22 04:19:08 2019 > From: Jay Patel > Subject: Re: is netbsd actually a toolkit? > To: Mayuresh Kathe > Cc: "netbsd

is netbsd actually a toolkit?

2019-04-21 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
freebsd has an internal focus to become a good server operating system. openbsd has an internal focus to become a highly secure operating system. what is netbsd's internal focus? can't be just a highly portable operating system! is it more to be a really good toolkit for people to build their own o

netbsd : internals : bach book : good to start-off?

2019-04-21 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
would "the design of the unix operating system" by maurice bach be good as a starting off point to understand netbsd internals? of-course, there's no substitute to reading and re-reading the source, but just something to act as a spring-board!

concurrencykit in the kernel!

2019-04-12 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
heard about freebsd guys using the concurrency kit (concurrencykit.org) in their kernel. anyone has any idea about how it could be useful from a netbsd perspective too? i was under the impression that the kit would be useful only for userland projects, wonder what role it would play at the kernel l

Re: how to use netbsd with ubuntu?

2019-04-12 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
running a netbsd vm on a google compute engine is a nice idea, but that makes me dependent on the network, something which cannot be trusted to not fail. > From bsieg...@gmail.com Fri Apr 12 09:05:51 2019 > From: Benny Siegert > Subject: Re: how to use netbsd with ubuntu? > To: Ma

Re: how to use netbsd with ubuntu?

2019-04-12 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
> From er.abhinav.upadh...@gmail.com Fri Apr 12 07:45:24 2019 > From: Abhinav Upadhyay > Subject: Re: how to use netbsd with ubuntu? > To: Mayuresh Kathe > Cc: NetBSD Users Mailing List > > On Fri, Apr 12, 2019 at 1:03 PM Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > > > as i

how to use netbsd with ubuntu?

2019-04-12 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
as in a previous email, i need to use ubuntu as my primary desktop. i researched various options via googling around as well as asking this mailing list and it looks like the best thing would be to run netbsd in a virtual environment. for the same, would "qemu" be considered good enough? if it is,

Re: netbsd development on a raspberry pi

2019-04-02 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
> From bsieg...@gmail.com Tue Apr 2 09:30:51 2019 > From: Benny Siegert > Subject: Re: netbsd development on a raspberry pi > To: Mayuresh Kathe > Cc: NetBSD Users > > On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 10:55 AM Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > the question that i don't ha

netbsd development on a raspberry pi

2019-04-02 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, returning to netbsd after a long time, feels good to be back. i am in a peculiar situation for which i can't figure out a solution. i have my primary desktop, an 'hp-aio' based on a dual-core celeron. i have to run ubuntu on it since i need to run "google chrome". i tried "chromium" but that

Re: why crypt in ed?

2018-10-05 Thread Kathe
From g...@lexort.com Sat Oct 6 01:44:14 2018 From: Greg Troxel To: Kathe Cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org Subject: Re: why crypt in ed? OpenPGP: id=098ED60E X-Hashcash: 1:20:181006:ka...@sdf.org::mUTxJ2XdGvms+ndz:0dUO X-Hashcash: 1

why crypt in ed?

2018-10-05 Thread Kathe
just noticed, there is a crypt function in /bin/ed and consequently /bin/ed is linked to the crypt lib. may i know why? this somehow goes against the unix philosophy of one small tool doing a small task but doing it well. why do we need a swiss army knife? :)

netbsd-daily/head is a gig!

2018-06-09 Thread Kathe
i waited 2 days per my 'isp' manager's suggestion to balance out my bandwidth quota and tried to download today's head from; ftp://nyftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD-daily/HEAD/201806090120Z/images/NetBSD-8.99.19-amd64-uefi-install.img.gz that file turned out to be a gig in size, just impossible to downlo

howto request a new package?

2018-06-09 Thread Kathe
is there any process for requesting a new package? actually it's just a modification of an existing package, just that netbsd isn't running on my machine yet, and even if it did, i just don't know how to create a new package from scratch. thanks.

Re: sacrilegious question : netbsd 8 : release date : approximate?

2018-06-05 Thread Kathe
i get my netbsd-8 from the url below; ftp://ftp.netbsd.org/pub/NetBSD/NetBSD-8.0_RC1/amd64/installation/cdrom/ what is "head"? and how do i get it? thanks. > From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Tue Jun 5 12:32:11 > 2018 > From: Martin Husemann > T

sacrilegious question : netbsd 8 : release date : approximate?

2018-06-05 Thread Kathe
i have been trying the daily builds of netbsd-8 and none of them work. my 'isp' has started hollering about my data usage, hence will have to take a break, hence the question; netbsd-8 release date approximation? thanks.

Re: zfs and dtrace, as specialized add-ons?

2018-05-23 Thread Kathe
> From g...@lexort.com Wed May 23 14:33:00 2018 > From: Greg Troxel > To: Kathe > Cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: zfs and dtrace, as specialized add-ons? > OpenPGP: id=098ED60E > X-Hashcash: > 1:20:180523:netbsd-users@netb

rump kernel approach?

2018-05-23 Thread Kathe
would it be possible to reduce the size of the system post first install by way of employing the rump kernel approach to only load the sub-systems and device drivers required by a particular hardware configuration?

zfs and dtrace, as specialized add-ons?

2018-05-23 Thread Kathe
why can't zfs and dtrace be supported as specialized add-ons? so basically, the system delivered as is should not have zfs and dtrace bundle-in but rather be configured and compiled-in by those users who need them.

sorry about the double post

2018-05-23 Thread Kathe
apologies for sending in 2 similar emails. don't know what i was thinking about. :)

why bother about zfs and dtrace.

2018-05-23 Thread Kathe
i doubt if zfs and dtrace work on every hardware port supported by netbsd. if not, why bother including them with just some of the ports? this thought occured when i wondered about the use-case for zfs and dtrace in embedded systems.

why zfs and dtrace?

2018-05-23 Thread Kathe
i doubt if zfs and dtrace work on every platform port currently supported by netbsd, and if the ever will. why then bother with zfs and dtrace at all? :)

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-12 Thread Kathe
> From mar...@duskware.de Thu May 10 09:20:49 2018 > From: Martin Husemann > To: Kathe > Cc: ht...@twofifty.com, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 07:19:08AM +, Kathe wrote: > > > 32bit, so not that

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-10 Thread Kathe
> From mar...@duskware.de Thu May 10 09:20:49 2018 > From: Martin Husemann > To: Kathe > Cc: ht...@twofifty.com, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install > > On Thu, May 10, 2018 at 07:19:08AM +, Kathe wrote: > > > 32bit, so not that

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-10 Thread Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Tue May 8 07:36:07 > 2018 > From: Martin Husemann > To: Kathe > Cc: ht...@twofifty.com, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install > Sender: netbsd-users-ow...@netbsd.org > > On Tue,

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-08 Thread Kathe
> From mar...@duskware.de Tue May 8 07:35:50 2018 > From: Martin Husemann > To: Kathe > Cc: ht...@twofifty.com, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install > > On Tue, May 08, 2018 at 07:30:57AM +, Kathe wrote: > > 02:00.0 SD Host contro

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-08 Thread Kathe
i do own a phone, just that it's not a smart-phone, i dislike them. :) > From ht...@twofifty.com Mon May 7 16:41:54 2018 > From: Hisashi T Fujinaka > X-X-Sender: ht...@chris.i8u.org > To: Kathe > cc: mar...@duskware.de, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 rc1 bar

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-08 Thread Kathe
> From mar...@duskware.de Tue May 8 06:55:15 2018 > From: Martin Husemann > To: Kathe > Cc: ht...@twofifty.com, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install > > On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 04:23:39PM +, Kathe wrote: > > > 02:00.0 SD Host con

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-07 Thread Kathe
umnn, i don't have the equipment to get the video of the screen. i can provide reports using other operating systems, do let me know. > From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Mon May 7 16:08:41 > 2018 > From: Hisashi T Fujinaka > X-X-Sender: ht...@chris.i8

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-07 Thread Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Mon May 7 16:18:04 > 2018 > From: Martin Husemann > To: Hisashi T Fujinaka > Cc: Kathe , netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install > Sender: netbsd-users-ow...@netbsd.org > > On Mon,

Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-07 Thread Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Mon May 7 15:50:58 > 2018 > From: Martin Husemann > To: Kathe > Cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: 8.0 rc1 barfs during install > Sender: netbsd-users-ow...@netbsd.org > > On Mon, May 07, 2018 at 03

8.0 rc1 barfs during install

2018-05-07 Thread Kathe
i have an amd64 system which runs well with freebsd, openbsd and ubuntu. with netbsd 8.0 rc1, it barfs while outputing the message below; sdhc0: adma error, status ff sdhc0: timeout waiting for mask 0x3 value 0 (state=0x) sdhc0: command or data phase inhibited sdhc0: timeout waiting for mas

Re: lang/swi-prolog-lite : lighter still

2018-04-17 Thread Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Tue Apr 17 11:03:13 > 2018 > From: Leonardo Taccari > To: netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: lang/swi-prolog-lite : lighter still > Comments: In-reply-to Leonardo Taccari >message dated "Tue,

Re: lang/swi-prolog-lite : lighter still

2018-04-17 Thread Kathe
neither do i have the skills, nor the knowledge. :( > From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Tue Apr 17 09:39:49 > 2018 > From: Benny Siegert > Subject: Re: lang/swi-prolog-lite : lighter still > To: ka...@sdf.org > Cc: netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Se

lang/swi-prolog-lite : lighter still

2018-04-17 Thread Kathe
can the swi-prolog-lite package be made even more lighter? i saw http://pkgsrc.se/lang/swi-prolog-lite and wondered if it's dependence on bash, gmp and readline can be removed. thanks.

unbootable 7.1.2 amd64

2018-04-13 Thread Kathe
i am trying to get netbsd 7.1.2 amd64 to run on my thinkpad e470. failing with "acpi" and "no acpi" options. "acpi" option is a no go. "no acpi" option goes forth and stops at; boot device: root device: it doesn't do anything, but just sits there rather smugly, mocking my helplessness. :) is there

swi-prolog-lite : further slimming down?

2018-04-13 Thread Kathe
i found swi-prolog-lite at http://pkgsrc.se/lang/swi-prolog-lite and noticed that it needed "bash, gmp, readline" at runtime. can those 3 dependencies be removed without making swipl unusable?

Re: thinkpad : e470 : bootup : barfs at acpi

2018-02-04 Thread Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Sun Feb 4 11:05:21 > 2018 > From: Martin Husemann > To: Matthias Petermann > Cc: Kathe , netbsd-users@netbsd.org > Subject: Re: thinkpad : e470 : bootup : barfs at acpi > Sender: netbsd-users-ow...@netbsd.org >

Re: thinkpad : e470 : bootup : barfs at acpi

2018-02-04 Thread Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Sun Feb 4 08:47:57 > 2018 > Subject: Re: thinkpad : e470 : bootup : barfs at acpi > To: Kathe , da...@netbsd.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > From: Matthias Petermann > Sender: netbsd-users-ow...@netbsd.org > > Hel

Re: thinkpad : e470 : bootup : barfs at acpi

2018-02-04 Thread Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Sun Feb 4 07:41:09 > 2018 > Subject: Re: thinkpad : e470 : bootup : barfs at acpi > To: Kathe , da...@netbsd.org, netbsd-users@netbsd.org > From: Matthias Petermann > Sender: netbsd-users-ow...@netbsd.org > > Hel

Re: thinkpad : e470 : bootup : barfs at acpi

2018-02-03 Thread Kathe
> From bounces-netbsd-users-owner-kathe=sdf@netbsd.org Sun Feb 4 04:13:51 > 2018 > Subject: Re: thinkpad : e470 : bootup : barfs at acpi > To: Kathe , netbsd-users@netbsd.org > From: "D'Arcy Cain" > Sender: netbsd-users-ow...@netbsd.org > > On 02/03/2

thinkpad : e470 : bootup : barfs at acpi

2018-02-03 Thread Kathe
int where i can record the dmesg, led me to wonder if sending in the dmesg using linux be of any help. -kathe

zenlisp : package request

2018-02-03 Thread Kathe
hi, is there any way i could request building a new package under netbsd? -mayuresh

netbsd : internals : 4.4bsd book : good start?

2017-06-06 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, would the 4.4bsd book by mckusick, et all be a good start to begin understanding netbsd internals? thanks, -mayuresh

netbsd on a parallella : documentation : translation to english!

2015-03-13 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
would there be someone here who can translate japanese to english? i finally found (after asking around) a document which shows how to prepare netbsd to run under the adapteva parallella; http://rappappararin.blogspot.jp/2015/01/netbsd-parallella-6.html but, even running it through "google translat

Re: amd64 : 6.1.5 : obj-c learning : what to install?

2014-10-24 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 05:57:00PM +0200, Riccardo Mottola wrote: > Hi, > > Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > hello, > > > > i finally got the obj-c book by "brad cox". > > > > what are the bare minimum packages needed to start off with > > lear

amd64 : 6.1.5 : obj-c learning : what to install?

2014-10-24 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, i finally got the obj-c book by "brad cox". what are the bare minimum packages needed to start off with learning obj-c under netbsd 6.1.5 (amd64)? thanks, ~mayuresh

Re: bootsplash for netbsd?

2014-09-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:18:05AM -0600, Roy Bixler wrote: > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 07:58:03PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > perhaps my googling skills are bad, but i couldn't find a way > > to present a bootsplash under netbsd. > > > > does it exist? >

bootsplash for netbsd?

2014-09-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, perhaps my googling skills are bad, but i couldn't find a way to present a bootsplash under netbsd. does it exist? if it does, where may i find more information about it's usage? thanks, -mayuresh

hp aio : netbsd boots and works just fine ...

2014-09-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, thanks to the support i received from the list members. my hp-aio is now booting netbsd 6.1.4 and working just fine. :) is there any email address to which i should be sending in the output of "dmesg"? best, ~mayuresh

Re: hp aio : netbsd won't boot ...

2014-09-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-25 17:41, Eric Haszlakiewicz wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 04:35:05PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: `fdisk wd0` output below. ... Partition table: 0: GPT Protective MBR (sysid 238) start 1, size 976773167 (476940 MB, Cyls 0/0/2-60801/80/63) PBR is not bootable: Bad

Re: hp aio : netbsd won't boot ...

2014-09-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-25 17:15, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 05:11:37PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: nothing special, just followed the prompts. I guess you did something special; like "use existing partitions" when there's no existing parititon. Anyway, the problem is t

Re: hp aio : netbsd won't boot ...

2014-09-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-25 16:52, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 04:35:05PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: On 2014-09-25 14:15, Manuel Bouyer wrote: >On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:56:32AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >>>>it says something along the lines of "disk busy, can

Re: hp aio : netbsd won't boot ...

2014-09-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-25 16:34, Gerard Lally wrote: At date and time Thu, 25 Sep 2014 01:42:47 +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: okay, i finally got myself a low end machine at an affordable price. http://hpshopping.in/HP_18-5019il_All-in-One_Desktop_PC the problems started after unpacking the machine

Re: hp aio : netbsd won't boot ...

2014-09-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-25 14:15, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 11:56:32AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: >>it says something along the lines of "disk busy, can't be used". > >This helps a bit (the exact error message would be better). >Are your trying to instal

Re: hp aio : netbsd won't boot ...

2014-09-24 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-25 11:22, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 02:59:11AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: as i'd mentioned before, the "newfs" command failed to work during installation process. this doesn't help yeah, figured, that's why i'd sent the followin

Re: hp aio : netbsd won't boot ...

2014-09-24 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-25 02:29, Manuel Bouyer wrote: On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 01:42:47AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: okay, i finally got myself a low end machine at an affordable price. http://hpshopping.in/HP_18-5019il_All-in-One_Desktop_PC the problems started after unpacking the machine. netbsd 6.1.4

Re: hp aio : netbsd won't boot ...

2014-09-24 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Wed, Sep 24, 2014 at 10:59:01PM +0200, Manuel Bouyer wrote: > On Thu, Sep 25, 2014 at 01:42:47AM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: > > okay, i finally got myself a low end machine at an affordable price. > > http://hpshopping.in/HP_18-5019il_All-in-One_Desktop_PC > > > >

hp aio : netbsd won't boot ...

2014-09-24 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
okay, i finally got myself a low end machine at an affordable price. http://hpshopping.in/HP_18-5019il_All-in-One_Desktop_PC the problems started after unpacking the machine. netbsd 6.1.4 (amd64) install cd just won't boot. after fiddling around with the bios (which looks like uefi), it booted,

Re: something like linux-fb?

2014-09-10 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-11 00:27, u...@stderr.spb.ru wrote: Mayuresh Kathe wrote: On 2014-09-10 18:11, Mayuresh wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 11:02:42PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: is there something under netbsd which provides capabilities similar to the linux graphics framebuffer driver? https

Re: something like linux-fb?

2014-09-10 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-10 18:11, Mayuresh wrote: On Tue, Sep 09, 2014 at 11:02:42PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: is there something under netbsd which provides capabilities similar to the linux graphics framebuffer driver? https://mail-index.netbsd.org/pkgsrc-wip-review/2012/02/26/msg001372.html

something like linux-fb?

2014-09-09 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
is there something under netbsd which provides capabilities similar to the linux graphics framebuffer driver? it could be used to write 'gui' systems without having to resort to using the x windowing system. thanks, ~mayuresh

obj-c support : still on?

2014-09-09 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, i have been reading up archives for the topic mentioned in the subject. may i know the state of objective-c support under netbsd 6.1.4 as well as the upcoming 7.0? thanks, ~mayuresh

Re: the bare necessities ...

2014-09-04 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-05 04:00, Kamil Rytarowski wrote: Hello Mayuresh Kathe, You may be interested in ideas from MirBSD, they run for 10 years without C++ in base. yes, i have heard of them, and interacted with thorsten regarding mksh, seemed like a good guy. i am also drawing inspiration from openbsd

Re: the bare necessities ...

2014-09-04 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-09-05 02:34, Matt Thomas wrote: On Sep 4, 2014, at 10:34 AM, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: hello, due to unforeseen circumstances, i need to cut down on my budget for a machine to run netbsd on. How much of a budget? us$330. intended use of the machine; 1. re-write as many of the base

the bare necessities ...

2014-09-04 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, due to unforeseen circumstances, i need to cut down on my budget for a machine to run netbsd on. intended use of the machine; 1. re-write as many of the base tree c++ tools/utils in c89 as required for a functional system. 2. work at getting as much of a functional system as possible u

kernel+userland will become c99?

2014-06-25 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, i read that all new code in the netbsd tree "has" to be c99. is that really a mandatory condition? if yes, would that mean, over a period of time, all of the netbsd userland would be converted to c99? and would the kernel be brought up to that same standard? if yes, wouldn't it be quite a

netbsd website : xml, xslt and make?

2014-06-23 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
hello, i apologise upfront if this is the wrong list for the question, and would appreciate being pointed to the right one. i just read on the netbsd projects list page that the website infrastructure maintenance depends on a xml, xslt and make. does that mean that the website is written primari

Re: specs for a netbsd build system?

2014-06-22 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 08:34:10AM -0400, Greg Troxel wrote: > > Mayuresh Kathe writes: > > > i have no idea about what kind of hardware would be required for > > performing an entire netbsd build within acceptable time-frames, > > say 1 hour (without x win). > &g

Re: install fails at newfs

2014-06-22 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-06-22 16:55, Martin Husemann wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 04:50:52PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: i wonder what that "dk0" thing is. This is your problem. Auto-discovery code created a wedge for you - dmesg should tell you more details. this wedge covers parts of your

Re: install fails at newfs

2014-06-22 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-06-22 16:36, Martin Husemann wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 04:21:12PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: "ls -l /dev/rwd0a" reports the following; crw-r- 1 root operator 3, 0 Jun 22 10:14 /dev/rwd0a This all looks fine. Are you working with a custom kernel? What do

Re: install fails at newfs

2014-06-22 Thread Mayuresh Kathe
On 2014-06-22 15:39, Martin Husemann wrote: On Sun, Jun 22, 2014 at 03:36:23PM +0530, Mayuresh Kathe wrote: i tried re-running 'newfs' as below; /sbin/newfs -V2 -O 2 -b 32768 -f 4096 /dev/rwd0a it gave the same error as before (below); newfs: /dev/rwd0a: open for read: D

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