Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-12 Thread Dan Cook
Thanks, everyone, for the feedback. Got the new shifter yesterday and all is well now. Gears shift, no transmission issues. I might have rode to work today but it's a sauna out there and I can't wear gear in this crap. When I went down I put the headlights out of whack and there was dirt in

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-08 Thread Jim Bolen
Damn, Joey, if you only had this! http://youtu.be/EnJfsH_druU -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-08 Thread Joey Kelley
Dan, My point on the speed - is the in a car - when you slow down you get 'safer' - when you slow down on a motorcycle, you get more tippy - which, might mean you're less safe. Its a counter intuitive statement - but is true. -Joey -Joey Kelley JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-08 Thread Joey Kelley
Kyle - I thought we agreed not to discuss the roller skates - but keep that between us! Bro code geez :-D -Joey -Joey Kelley JoeyKelley.com - My Life Online JoeyKelleyPhoto.com - Photographing Today, For Tomorrow On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 3:25 PM, Kyle Munz

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-08 Thread Kyle Munz
Joey just wears rollerskates when he rides now, solved his feet down problem. On Aug 8, 2016 13:58, "Dan Cook" wrote: > Thanks, Joey, aka God's Gift to Women (for a brief moment.) > > I don't really think I was going too fast - a good rider could have easily > made it

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-08 Thread Dan Cook
Thanks, Joey, aka God's Gift to Women (for a brief moment.) I don't really think I was going too fast - a good rider could have easily made it through that curve. But, I was going too fast for me (obviously) at this stage. Someday, making a curve that tight will hopefully be second nature. I

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-08 Thread Joey Kelley
Dan, Welcome to the group and thank you for sharing your experiences. Too many people get shaken by the first 'moment' where they dump it and never try again. In the 'misery loves company' field - here is my first dumping story: A few days after completing my

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-08 Thread Tommy Hill
I have never taken a motorcycle class. I don't think they had them 30 years ago. But seeing everyone talk about them, I am considering it. I figured out counter steering as well as most of the concepts of which you speak on my own and in large part by trial and ERROR. Didn't even realize I was

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-08 Thread Dan Cook
I do know it somewhere in my melon. I have crashed bicycles before, too! On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 11:56 AM, Javier Garcia wrote: > I think you are right Kyle, because it is very intuitive to me :). People > sometimes forget that CS also works on bicycles, so if you have ever

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-08 Thread Kyle Munz
Countersteering is *very* counterintuitive, unless you're a physicist. My advice is don't try to understand it, just practice it over and over again until it becomes natural. When you get it right on a long sweeping turn though, nothing feels better. -Kyle On Mon, Aug 8, 2016 at 10:49 AM, Dan

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-08 Thread Dan Cook
Thanks again, everyone. I'm trying to wrap my head around countersteering. It's a little bit counterintuitive. The bike is still not ready to be ridden - need the part to come in the mail, then hopefully all will be well. Then I'll head to a parking lot for awhile. Many times. On Sat, Aug 6,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-06 Thread Jeremy
First thing, you walked away. Huge plus. I've had two crashes, one the day before my MSF course on my sisters buel blast, could barely walk on my right foot and never had it checked. Still went to the corse the next day. Second crash was my cousin jumping on the back of my VFR attacking me

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-06 Thread Tommy Hill
Dan, if you don't mind electronic manuals, look around. I have them for the 650 and 700, but with some searching or asking here, you should be able to find one for your bike. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-05 Thread Paul
So glad you chose to write about your mishap Dan. I completely agree with everything the guys said here...once you get back on the bike just take your time and only go as fast as you're comfortable going. I'm teaching my wife to ride right now and she's picking it up fast, but we constantly have

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-05 Thread Dan Cook
I found the right part, I am 99% sure: http://www.partzilla.com/parts/detail/honda/HP-24701-KBG-000.html I'll look into Clymer's manual. Thanks. On Aug 6, 2016 1:10 AM, "Jim Bolen" wrote: Oh, and get yourself a Clymer's shop manual. You'll thank me later. :-) --

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-05 Thread Jim Bolen
Oh, and get yourself a Clymer's shop manual. You'll thank me later. :-) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-05 Thread Jim Bolen
Nah, you probably just screwed up the shifter lever. Easy fix, and really easy to adjust to your specific boot and shoe size. Try ebay, and if you don't find anything there, the cheapest place I've found for oem parts is Huntington Beach Honda. -- You received this message because you are

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-05 Thread Dan Cook
Thanks, Tommy! So, I got the bent shifter lever off. Any recommendations for where to buy a new one? It's worth mentioning that I would like a bit more vertical space between the peg and the shifter to fit my fat boot in there more easily. (That may just be an adjustment I can make...) Just for

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-05 Thread Tommy Hill
Nice write up, Dan. Thank you for sharing. I hope you get the bike and you on the road quickly. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-05 Thread Dan Cook
So, I think that maybe I should focus more on countersteering, huh? I use countersteering successfully on the main road in town, but the curves aren't as sudden or as drastic as the one I went down on. Fortunately, the speed limit was slower where I went down. But countersteering needs to be

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-05 Thread Kyle Munz
I agree with Jim, you should certainly practice more countersteering. -Kyle On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 11:55 PM, Jim Bolen wrote: > Don't try to bend the shifter back in place. The metal has been > compromised, so you need a new one (pretty cheap). You don't want the >

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-04 Thread Jim Bolen
Don't try to bend the shifter back in place. The metal has been compromised, so you need a new one (pretty cheap). You don't want the fatiqued metal to snap during a ride. I'm an instructor, and we preach countersteering. Practice in a big empty parking lot, then when it feels comfortable,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-04 Thread Kyle Munz
Yeah, but you've learned that lesson now. Countersteer would have helped here, anytime you think you're going too fast for a turn, countersteer. Best to practice this repeatedly until it's something you just do and not something you think about. You also mentioned issues with the figure-8, I would

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-04 Thread Dan Cook
Got vice grips. Will try! On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:11 PM, Graham Rogers wrote: > Dan, the gear shifter indeed can be bent back. If you have a vice and vice > grips you can do it. You may even be able to do it with it still on the > bike. > > > On Thursday, August 4,

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-04 Thread Dan Cook
OUCH. On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 4:12 PM, 'Ross M. Jamison' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers! wrote: > Welcome. > > There is a saying I was taught - If you haven't been down, you're either > lying or you haven't been riding long enough. > > I'd say less than an

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-04 Thread Dan Cook
Yeah, we got into countersteering and target fixation. I didn't countersteer enough because I saw myself heading for the side of the road and that is where I looked and kept looking. Definite target fixation. I should have been looking through the curve. So, I was taught it, just didn't learn

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-04 Thread Kyle Munz
Going down bruises your ego far more than your body. I felt like a complete failure for months after I turned mine upsidedown on the freeway. You have to get back on it before you lose your nerve though. In your turn going slower might have helped, leaning might have helped, but I have to ask, did

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-04 Thread 'Ross M. Jamison' via Nighthawk Motorcycle Lovers!
Welcome. There is a saying I was taught - If you haven't been down, you're either lying or you haven't been riding long enough. I'd say less than an hour after I had bought a used Kawasaki KZ-175, I accidentally popped a wheelie and went on the ground. The bike had hardly been hurt. I picked

Re: [Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-04 Thread Graham Rogers
Dan, the gear shifter indeed can be bent back. If you have a vice and vice grips you can do it. You may even be able to do it with it still on the bike. On Thursday, August 4, 2016, Dan Cook wrote: > I introduced myself here a week or so ago... > > I’m a 44 year old male

[Nighthawk Lovers] It took less than two weeks...

2016-08-04 Thread Dan Cook
I introduced myself here a week or so ago... I’m a 44 year old male and have always been insanely curious about riding motorcycles. I never had a dirtbike as a kid, though I got to ride them (and couple scooters) on occasion and loved the feeling. So, each summer for the past decade or so I’ve