[Nmh-workers] thread mangling python-list mailing list to comp.lang.python google group

2015-08-18 Thread Laura Creighton
/comp.lang.python/\ python$20implementaiton$20of$20a$20new$20coding/comp.lang.python/6yaqHQVKTYM (or search google groups for python implementation of a new integer coding algorithm) somewhere on page 8 you will find an article by me: Laura Creighton 8:17 AM (5 hours ago) Re: memory

Re: [Nmh-workers] thread mangling python-list mailing list to comp.lang.python google group

2015-08-18 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Tue, 18 Aug 2015 13:12:55 -0400, Ken Hornstein writes: >>>From a skim of the headers, you could try making your In-Reply-To comply >>with RFC 2822. IOW, have it contain just the message ID of the email >>you are replying to and not the human-readable gunk around it. (It can >>actu

Re: [Nmh-workers] thread mangling python-list mailing list to comp.lang.python google group

2015-08-18 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Tue, 18 Aug 2015 18:21:55 +0100, Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi Ken, > >> But nowadays things have been tightened up and from RFC 2822 > >2001-04. ;-) > >> is that it should only contain a Message-ID > >It's allowed multiple. It's my damn MUA that stands in the way! > >$ repl last

Re: [Nmh-workers] Future directions for nmh

2016-03-11 Thread Laura Creighton
I'd just like to mention that I am still getting lots of use out of the mh mail storage. A lot of the mail that I receive is code checkins. Perhaps when everybody on the planet has moved all of their code to github (as seems to be happening whenever I turn around) I won't need my tools to find out

Re: [Nmh-workers] Mobile mail access (was: Re: Need some general advice)

2016-09-16 Thread Laura Creighton
If you can use an ubuntu phone/tablet https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch You can just download the debian mnh package (or I think these days there is an ubuntu one as well, I did this a long time ago) and it just works. Laura ___ Nmh-workers mailing list

Re: [Nmh-workers] Starting the final call for features for 1.7

2016-09-24 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Fri, 23 Sep 2016 22:16:36 -0400, Ken Hornstein writes: >Greetings all, > >I think that we are starting to get close to being ready for a 1.7 >release. I believe all of the features I wanted for 1.7 have been >merged into master; there are one two other features I know that are >bei

Re: [Nmh-workers] Starting the final call for features for 1.7

2016-09-24 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sat, 24 Sep 2016 09:45:38 -0400, David Levine writes: >Laura wrote: > >> My nmh displays base-64 encoded mail just fine, but if you try to reply >> or forward with the message quoted, it doesn't convert. > >nmh 1.6 has docs/contrib/replyfilter, it contains usage instructions. > >nmh

Re: [Nmh-workers] Starting the final call for features for 1.7

2016-09-24 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sat, 24 Sep 2016 10:41:18 -0400, Ken Hornstein writes: >>My nmh displays base-64 encoded mail just fine, but if you try to reply >>or forward with the message quoted, it doesn't convert. I get a base-64 >>encoded mail about once every 5 years, so it hasn't been worth complaining >>

Re: [Nmh-workers] EAI?

2016-09-24 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sat, 24 Sep 2016 11:33:58 -0400, David Levine writes: >Resurrecting an old topic, Email Address Internationalization (EAI). >The original message is at >http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/nmh-workers/2015-08/msg0.html > >It doesn't mention RFC 6531, SMTP Extension for Internat

Re: [Nmh-workers] Starting the final call for features for 1.7

2016-09-25 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sat, 24 Sep 2016 15:52:41 -0400, Ken Hornstein writes: >>I think this may be an advantage of living in a part of the world >>where ASCII is too small. Once I got unicode up and working as text, >>that is pretty much all I have to worry about. iso-8859 is finally >>dying around her

Re: [Nmh-workers] Starting the final call for features for 1.7

2016-09-25 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sat, 24 Sep 2016 16:44:38 -0400, David Levine writes: >Laura wrote: >I don't think you need that with nmh 1.6, and you shouldn't with 1.7, >assuming your locale (LANG, LC_ALL, or LC_CTYPE environment variable) >is set to a utf-7 or utf-8 (preferred by some) locale. Yes, but I need

Re: [Nmh-workers] TLS certificate validation

2016-09-25 Thread Laura Creighton
Be aware of this problem with windows: https://bugs.python.org/issue20916 If you just ask Windows to enumerate the certificates it knows about, it won't pull anything down. I think this is since Vista, but I could be wrong about that. It's not a new problem. Laura

Re: [Nmh-workers] Starting the final call for features for 1.7

2016-09-25 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:15:40 +0100, Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi, > >Laura wrote: >> For instance, I was blissfully unaware of this mailing list and that >> nmh was ever under active development until a few years ago, and I >> suspect that there are quite a few others out there who are s

Re: [Nmh-workers] Starting the final call for features for 1.7

2016-09-25 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:57:19 -0400, David Levine writes: >How about this, in nmh(7) and the output from install-mh(1): > >BUGS > Send bug reports, questions, suggestions, and patches to nmh- > work...@nongnu.org. That mailing list is relatively quiet, so user > questions are en

Re: [Nmh-workers] Starting the final call for features for 1.7

2016-09-25 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sun, 25 Sep 2016 14:05:15 -0400, Paul Fox writes: >david wrote: > > Paul wrote: > > > > > any reason we couldn't in principle have a separate git tree on > > > savannah just for "compiled" man pages, and other docs? > > > > Is there really a need? > >true, i wondered that too. > >

Re: [Nmh-workers] Starting the final call for features for 1.7

2016-10-09 Thread Laura Creighton
I just needed to do something, and then remembered how I use this script I wrote quite often. I often store a bunch of things I get in my inbox into: refile +newstuff or refile +something/newstuff. or even procmail > But I get them in the order they arrived. I want them in the order they we

Re: [Nmh-workers] Starting the final call for features for 1.7

2016-10-09 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sun, 09 Oct 2016 18:49:14 -0400, Ken Hornstein writes: >>But I get them in the order they arrived. I want them in the order they >>were sent, which can be a whole lot different, before I read them. >> >>I use my own filter for that. Be nice if nmh did that natively. as part >>of

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh 1.6: character set checks and exmh compatibility

2016-10-17 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 17 Oct 2016 13:09:35 -0400, Ken Hornstein writes: >>So I updated to the new RHEL6 package of nmh 1.6 (had been on 1.5). >>I've found that it now wants to mime-ify outgoing mail and among >>other things attaches >> Content-type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" >>Apparently,

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh 1.6: character set checks and exmh compatibility

2016-10-17 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 17 Oct 2016 13:42:37 -0400, Ken Hornstein writes: >Also, it kind of strikes me as the wrong solution, and not just because >of the additional complexity. The locale setting is supposed to >indicate to utilities which character set you're using. So we (rather >reasonably, I wo

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh 1.6: character set checks and exmh compatibility

2016-10-17 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 17 Oct 2016 21:41:08 +0100, Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi Laura, > >> Just giving them utf-8 even though that wasn't what they asked for has >> fixed a huge number of headaches when running mailing lists around >> here. > >Does that mailing-list software check that what they're se

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh 1.6: character set checks and exmh compatibility

2016-10-17 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 17 Oct 2016 17:21:18 -0400, Ken Hornstein writes: >I agree that we can't reasonably know what the character set is supposed >to be in that case. But I would say that given the choice between >sending 'something wrong' and 'erroring out', 'erroring out' is the more >correct opt

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh 1.6: character set checks and exmh compatibility

2016-10-18 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Tue, 18 Oct 2016 14:17:24 +0100, Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi Tom, > >If you just have one long-running Emacs then can't that be in the UTF-8 >locale? Or is your C-needing ls(1) run from inside that? > >Have Emacs highlight non-ASCII characters in that mode wherever they >come from,

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh 1.6: character set checks and exmh compatibility

2016-10-18 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Tue, 18 Oct 2016 15:13:49 +0100, Ralph Corderoy writes: >There's a mechanism for telling a hierarchy of programs their locale; >environment variables. You're using it, but you're telling some of them >a different locale to what you really want them to use. People do this a lot aro

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh 1.6: character set checks and exmh compatibility

2016-10-19 Thread Laura Creighton
And, of course, I do use attach at the What Now? prompt. Laura ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-workers

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh 1.6: character set checks and exmh compatibility

2016-10-19 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 19 Oct 2016 11:46:31 -0400, David Levine writes: >OK. I'm not going to add a -locale switch, that seems to me to move this >too close to nmh. I like the locale profile component. Let me ask those >who might use it: do you also want the NMH_LANG environment variable? I'd >r

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh 1.6: character set checks and exmh compatibility

2016-10-19 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 19 Oct 2016 11:38:45 -0400, David Levine writes: >I'll do 1), but the other steps would be up to you. Thank you very much. Laura ___ Nmh-workers mailing list Nmh-workers@nongnu.org https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/nmh-work

Re: [Nmh-workers] reply attribution?

2016-10-19 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 19 Oct 2016 13:30:00 -0400, Paul Fox writes: The above line is what you want, right? >i looked briefly at adding that support, but quickly realized it would >be beyond my meager perl skills to do so. > >so: is reply attribution something that people that use replyfilter >mis

Re: [Nmh-workers] reply attribution?

2016-10-19 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 19 Oct 2016 23:22:08 +0200, Laura Creighton writes: >In a message of Wed, 19 Oct 2016 13:30:00 -0400, Paul Fox writes: > >The above line is what you want, right? > >>i looked briefly at adding that support, but quickly realized it would >>be beyond my

[Nmh-workers] nmh should be more careful about when it unlinks draft files

2017-01-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In my bin I have a trivial shell script, called ra, reproduced here in its entirity. stty echo icanon crterase /usr/bin/mh/repl -group -format (I was having problems at a particular site with a program that kept dying on me and leaving me in an unpleasant mode, so I added the first line. It's not

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh should be more careful about when it unlinks draft files

2017-01-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 02 Jan 2017 13:01:34 +, Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi Laura, > >> /usr/bin/mh/repl -group -format >... >> I was replying to somebody and got: >> *** Error in `/usr/bin/mh/repl': free(): invalid pointer: 0x08080547 *** >> /u/lac/bin/ra: line 2: 5931 Aborted/usr/bin/mh/repl

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh should be more careful about when it unlinks draft files

2017-01-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 02 Jan 2017 14:56:33 +, Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi Laura, > >> emacs. >> >> > What does `mhparam draft-folder' give? >> >> drafts (which seems to be working just fine -- drafts are indeed being >> created here) > >So emacs will have been editing drafts/42, say. > >> > Did r

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh should be more careful about when it unlinks draft files

2017-01-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 02 Jan 2017 10:06:50 -0500, David Levine writes: >Laura wrote: > >> I think _after_ the whatnow(1) prompt, as well, but it has long since >> scrolled away. I don't remember the shell complaing about receiving an >> unwanted 'send', so I think that whatnow received it. > >So it

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh should be more careful about when it unlinks draft files

2017-01-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 02 Jan 2017 10:11:06 -0500, Ken Hornstein writes: >>I was replying to somebody and got: >>*** Error in `/usr/bin/mh/repl': free(): invalid pointer: 0x08080547 *** >>/u/lac/bin/ra: line 2: 5931 Aborted/usr/bin/mh/repl -group -format > >I know we've had a number of double-fr

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh should be more careful about when it unlinks draft files

2017-01-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 02 Jan 2017 11:10:03 -0500, Ken Hornstein writes: >>But my real query is about this 'apparently successful send'. Why wasn't >>it apparent that the send wasn't successful? Shouldn't a check of return >>codes have discovered the problem? > >That is checked, and certainly if th

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh should be more careful about when it unlinks draft files

2017-01-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 02 Jan 2017 16:27:54 +, Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi Laura, > >> But my real query is about this 'apparently successful send'. Why >> wasn't it apparent that the send wasn't successful? Shouldn't a check >> of return codes have discovered the problem? > >What happens to suc

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh should be more careful about when it unlinks draft files

2017-01-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 02 Jan 2017 16:38:26 +, Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi Laura, > >Another thought. You mention Emacs. Do you use the MH-E package or >similar? Any other non-nhm MH programs? Could they be interfering with >what we know of the normal flow? Hmmm. I have a modified version of

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh should be more careful about when it unlinks draft files

2017-01-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 02 Jan 2017 12:23:04 -0500, Ken Hornstein writes: >>There was time for me to go to the kitchen, pour me a drink, come back >>and 'ohhh. What's this on my screen?', so plenty to time for something >>to munge things beneath me. Alas. I was hoping that a smarter send could >>un

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh should be more careful about when it unlinks draft files

2017-01-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 02 Jan 2017 17:32:49 +, Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi Laura, > >Ken wrote: >> It would be interesting to make sure that in your drafts folder there >> exist a bunch of old messages with backup prefix. > >And that they linger, undisturbed. You could even deliberately create >o

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh should be more careful about when it unlinks draft files

2017-01-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 02 Jan 2017 13:00:15 -0500, David Levine writes: >Laura wrote: > >> formatproc: /u/lac/bin/replyfilter >> >> could that be to blame? > >I doubt it. I don't think you would have reached the whatnow prompt >if it failed. As far as I can tell, all it does it set up the annotatio

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh should be more careful about when it unlinks draft files

2017-01-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Mon, 02 Jan 2017 14:59:02 -0500, Ken Hornstein writes: >>I checked. Yes, he did receive a digest at about minight my time. >>So, yeah, that was happening at that time. I still think that 'found >>an error trying to send something --> SAVE THAT DRAFT!!' would be a good >>thing to h

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh should be more careful about when it unlinks draft files

2017-01-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Tue, 03 Jan 2017 04:42:19 +0700, Robert Elz writes: >Date:Mon, 02 Jan 2017 15:45:36 -0500 >From:Ken Hornstein >Message-ID: <20170102204537.c39325a...@pb-smtp1.pobox.com> > > > | Based on what you describe, I suspect what happened is that your digest >

Re: [Nmh-workers] nmh should be more careful about when it unlinks draft files

2017-01-03 Thread Laura Creighton
>Really, the safest thing to do for Laura's case is to use the MH environment >variable to point to a new .mh_profile that has it's own Path that doesn't >stomp all over your personal mail directory. Which, undoubtably, is why I have never run into this before. However, if the whole machine with

Re: [Nmh-workers] OT: Content-Type boundary Matching /^_av-/.

2017-02-03 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Fri, 03 Feb 2017 10:57:05 +, Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi, > >I've noticed an increase in spam I get over the last couple of months. >I normally get quite a bit, but it shot up for a good few weeks and has >only recently come back down as, presumably, the bullet found its home. >B

Re: [Nmh-workers] Segfault in post from mime quoted names in aliases

2017-04-13 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Thu, 13 Apr 2017 09:04:11 +0200, Johan Viklund writes: >Ken Hornstein (>): >>I'll be looking at this ... but it looks like to me the encoding isn't >>necessary for this user, because no characters are actually encoded in >>that name? > >Well that's not a name I have in my alias file

[Nmh-workers] scan doesn't appear to understand language encodings

2017-06-02 Thread Laura Creighton
ted properly (that is an 'e' with a rising accent above if you are in ascii). Show prints things perfectly, of course. But it caused me to wonder. If scan can understand how to print 'Hallén' then surely it could understand how to print 'Södermannagatan' as wel

Re: [Nmh-workers] scan doesn't appear to understand language encodings

2017-06-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Fri, 02 Jun 2017 11:40:40 +0100, Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi Laura, > >> 374 06/01 Jacob Hallén Fang Yuan Shi Wu<> > >I would guess the `From' header encoded `Hallén' and nmh was happy to >decode. Judging by the single question mark, I think the body has a >single byte for th

Re: [Nmh-workers] scan doesn't appear to understand language encodings

2017-06-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Fri, 02 Jun 2017 09:10:42 -0400, Ken Hornstein writes: >>Show prints things perfectly, of course. But it caused me to wonder. If >>scan can understand how to print 'Hallén' then surely it could understand >>how to print 'Södermannagatan' as well? > >Sigh. Technically the problem

[Nmh-workers] Microsoft hockeyapp doesn't care about 2045 RFC (6.4)

2017-10-14 Thread Laura Creighton
Hockeyapp is a program that was developed somewhere else but then purchased by Microsoft, or so I am told. You can probably do a lot of things with it, but what we are doing is coordinating an alpha and now beta test of a game that runs under IOS, android and via steam for Linux, Mac and Windows.

Re: [Nmh-workers] Microsoft hockeyapp doesn't care about 2045 RFC (6.4)

2017-10-14 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sat, 14 Oct 2017 14:37:09 -0400, David Levine writes: >Laura wrote: > >> could we have a switch that just edits the wretched mail for you > >mhfixmsg(1) should do exactly what you want. Specifically, its -fixcte >switch, but that's enabled by default. > >Its man page has examples o

Re: [Nmh-workers] Microsoft hockeyapp doesn't care about 2045 RFC (6.4)

2017-10-14 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sat, 14 Oct 2017 15:34:22 -0400, Ken Hornstein writes: >>I've been in discussion about this with Microsoft, and their position >>boils down to 'don't give a damn, get a new mailer that is more permissive'. > >If it makes you feel any better, I share your pain, and that's the >answer

Re: [Nmh-workers] Microsoft hockeyapp doesn't care about 2045 RFC (6.4)

2017-10-15 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sat, 14 Oct 2017 19:40:40 -0400, Ken Hornstein writes: >>Also, while the department of Zoology and the dept of Medicine may >>indeed have well figured out that it would be a good idea to share >>software, they in no way informed me, or >>Marcus-whose-last-name-I-forget (Wall? Wald?)

Re: [Nmh-workers] Microsoft hockeyapp doesn't care about 2045 RFC (6.4)

2017-10-21 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Tue, 17 Oct 2017 09:44:36 +0100, Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi Ken, > >I wish you were a betting man. ;-) > >> Ken wrote: >> > and that's the answer I usually get (if I get an answer at all). >... >> Speaking of which, I've emailed Corey. > >And Laura and I heard back from Thomas Dohm

Re: [nmh-workers] mhshow: invalid BASE64 encoding in --

2019-03-18 Thread Laura Creighton
With irony, in a discussion about how to handle bad encodings in mail, I found that I could not read this message by Valdis Klētnieks https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/nmh-workers/2019-03/msg00023.html Something bad seems to have happened to his encoding of a '§'. Now, my .mh_profile says (a

Re: [nmh-workers] mhshow: invalid BASE64 encoding in --

2019-03-20 Thread Laura Creighton
I didn't know about the built-in iconv. But this behaviour seems a lot better than 'just drop the problems on the floor silently'. The reason I was interested in a louder error reporting was that, for a certain chunk of time if there was an encoding error, then chances were that the person who ha

Re: check if message is in a particular sequence?

2021-05-02 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Sun, 02 May 2021 14:11:44 -0400, Ken Hornstein writes: >> > I confess I don't LOVE -terse/-noterse, but I cannot think of anything >> > better right now; I say go for it. >> >>I thought of using "curt", and "nocurt", but that didn't seem right >>either. ;-) >> >>But maybe you're no

Re: mhbuild: extraneous information in message

2021-05-12 Thread Laura Creighton
le for "audio/mpegapplication;". > > Thanks, > > - Steven Manjaro is based on Arch linux, and Arch linux is based on debian. My debian distro looks for such things in /etc/mailcap. I'd look there first. Laura Creighton

Re: mhbuild: extraneous information in message

2021-05-12 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 12 May 2021 10:12:06 +0100, Ralph Corderoy writes: >Hi Laura, > >> Manjaro is based on Arch linux, > >Yep. > >> and Arch linux is based on debian. > >No, I don't think so. I run Arch Linux here and one key reason is it >packages upstream releases directly without much tinkerin

Re: mhbuild: extraneous information in message

2021-05-12 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 12 May 2021 07:55:56 -0400, Ken Hornstein writes: >>Manjaro is based on Arch linux, and Arch linux is based on debian. >>My debian distro looks for such things in /etc/mailcap. I'd look there first. > >Just for the record nmh (and MH before it) has never directly used >th

Re: mhbuild: extraneous information in message

2021-05-12 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 12 May 2021 12:25:30 -0400, "Valdis Klētnieks" writes: >On Wed, 12 May 2021 18:16:28 +0200, Laura Creighton said: > >> Oh goodness. I had no idea. And here I have been happily editing >> /etc/mailcap >> every time somebody sends me some

Re: mhbuild: extraneous information in message

2021-05-13 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Wed, 12 May 2021 16:29:37 -0400, Ken Hornstein writes: >>> There's no HARM in you putting entries there. But nmh doesn't read that >>> file either. >> >>Which raises the question - what is getting into the path so when Laura >>adds entries to /etc/mailcap, things start working for

Re: How to give Thomas Dupond the date in his replies.

2022-01-28 Thread Laura Creighton
(trim)%(putstr)\n\ message dated "%<(nodate{date})%{date}%|%(tws{date})%>." Laura Creighton

Re: automatic decode mime in repl

2022-02-11 Thread Laura Creighton
After that mhl will add the '> ' and linebreaks. As said in the >other mail, this is the default behavior of repl. This has nothing to do >with my patch. There where already two ways mentioned in this thread how >this could be fixed. and I don't care about urls. >Philipp Laura Creighton

Re: automatic decode mime in repl

2022-02-11 Thread Laura Creighton
In a message of Fri, 11 Feb 2022 18:37:28 +, David Levine writes: >Laura wrote: > >> I would really like to have this. The workaround I have made is really > >> ugly, and doesn't always work. > >Does this produce a result that seems at least as good? > > \repl -filter mhl.replywithoutbody -c

Re: Failing to extract text/html part of message with show

2022-05-17 Thread Laura Creighton
What does mhstore get you? (If you are lucky, a part that has exactly what you want). Laura