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> On 6 Nov 2006, Gibbons, John wrote:
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> > But different MS versions of, say Gingling Geordie/Wylam Away' vary
> > enough that it's clea
in response to Chris Birch:
> Playing by ear alone is a
> good way of risking permanent loss of repertoire even without
> manuscripts being thrown onto the fire.
We even already have a fine recorded example of this process in
action.
I assume you're alluding to matt's album with stuff from the
On 6 Nov 2006, Gibbons, John wrote:
> But different MS versions of, say Gingling Geordie/Wylam Away' vary
> enough that it's clear that transmission has been by ear in many cases.
in response to Chris Birch:
> Playing by ear alone is a
> good way of risking permanent loss of repertoire even wit
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Are we going to then confine tunes that are considered passe to the
'trash folder'
just because they are considered not suitable for mode
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Hi Colin,
Here's a version of HH aka the Chorus Jig for Pastoral Pipes, generously
put online by Ross Anderson with the Sutherland Manuscript (+- 1785) - I
also find some parts have no "whistlin melody" except at ballistic
speeds, but that is down to personal taste again, and the virtuosity of
gt; should not be adhered to strictly anyway... and maybes we have lost
> the art extemporization on the instrument because we stick so
> closely to the notes.
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> Just a thought
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> Steve Douglass
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> On Nov 5, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Matt Seattle wrote
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should not be adhered to strictly anyway... and maybes we have lost
the art extemporization on the instrument because we stick so
closely to the notes.
Just a thought
Steve Douglass
On Nov 5, 2006, at 3:15 PM, Matt Seattle wrote:
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Nicely put.
I hear the murmurings of "keyed or unkeyed" in the offing
Colin Hill
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>This is why I begged that
>some
>> of the people who are imbued with the tradition, and know which are, and
>> which a
Good for you Christopher!! I also play gamba and NSP. There are more
gamba players in Seattle per sq. meter than any where in the States, I
think. On the other hand, we have the odd phenomenon of a huge
(relatively) bunch of NSP players convening about 60 mi. South of
Seattle that may also
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Subject: [NSP] Re: preserving the tradition....a non-traditional approach
I agree with Matt that is a very interesting discussion. However, I don't
think that those of you who live at the centre of the NSP
ver here!
Colin Hill
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> I agree with Matt that is a very inter
I agree with Matt that is a very interesting discussion. However, I don't
think that those of you who live at the centre of the NSP world can realize
how difficult it is for those of us, who live many thousands of miles away, to
know what the true Northumbrian tradition is. To us there ar
On Sat Nov 4 0:37 , 'Doc Jones' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
>I'd just hate for the NSP to end up as one of those instruments that a century
from now is only known and appreciated by players and admirerers of "antique
music" and "antique musical instruments".
This precisely echoes Thomas Bewick's
Patrick is talking a lot of sense here, I think, except for the last bit.
I'm sorry, but this is frankly nonsense for several reasons:
1) the violin was not "corrupted" to play a wide range of music. It simply
plays a wide range of music.
2) the viola da gamba tradition was not debased by
that he and the hilliard ensemble would do better to
go their separate ways)?
chirs
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"Bonny Pit Laddie" etc. Now THAT'S real NSP playing. Wonderful, Chris!"
Couldn't agree more. Technically and musically fabulous.
But on a darker note, am I alone in not understanding the reference to
"nepotism"? Can someone explain?
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"Bonny Pit Laddie" etc. Now THAT'S real NSP playing. Wonderful, Chris! but
please don't totally rubbish Max and the competence, knowledge or integrity
of other ways of using the instrument. Having sais that, of course, maybe it
is a necessary part of being a true tradition-bea
on 11/2/06 3:03 PM, Colin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> This debate reminds me all too much of something that happened back in the
> 60's in the "folk scene" when a fellow called Bob Dylan did the second half
> of his show with an electric guitar and half the audience walked out (I was
> there).
n it in the traditional
manner to ensure it's survival. The others? Just treat them like a classical
pianist treats a jazz pianist and agree to differ.
Colin Hill
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I agree with many of Patrick's points, but Northumbrian pipes without
drones??? Why, it's like cheese on toast without the cheese!
Saying that, there is a track of Martyn Bennett playing without drones (on
the Highland pipes) and playing along with Tommy Smith, the saxophonist, on
the Tacsi CD,
P] Re: Preserving the tradition...a non-traditional
approach.
Hi All,
Some interesting observations here. Try playing Chatanooga Choo Choo as
a
Northumbrian lament. It works a treat and is great fun.
Oh dear, will I be excommunicated?
Best wishes,
Paul R
Hi All,
Some interesting observations here. Try playing Chatanooga Choo Choo as a
Northumbrian lament. It works a treat and is great fun.
Oh dear, will I be excommunicated?
Best wishes,
Paul Rhodes
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rue tradition-bearer that you ARE intolerant
of divergence from the tradition?
Philip
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Today, there are far more NSPers than probably ever before, but if
anyone needs more than one hand to count the good ones, he is either
very generous, or can't tell the difference between fair and excellent
piping.
I doubt if the number of excellent pipers is greater than it has ever
been. The po
On Thu Nov 2 0:37 , 'Doc Jones' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:
>I've been watching the jazz thread a bit. There seems to be a certain
reluctance to see the NSP being used in venues that are not strictly
traditional.
The jazz thread is a total red herring. Nobody can play jazz on the NSP, the
peopl
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