[NTG-context] \XeTeX\ misbehaving
Hans,
just accidentally, I discovered that \XeTeX\ misbehaves:
\starttext
\input{zapf} \XETEX\ \input{knuth}
\stoptext
BTW, this is the MWE after I saw
http://www.pragma-ade.com/general/manuals/luametatex.pdf#page=15.
I hope it helps,
Pablo
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Re: [NTG-context] first-setup.bat weirdness II: xetex etc.
On 7/20/2016 1:42 AM, Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد wrote: Dear syndicate, As mentioned in my other message, "first-setup.bat weirdness I: cloned system" I've now switched to the first-setup.bat way of updating. Two pieces of weirdness on the main machine: 1. mtx-context | running command: xetex --ini --etex --8bit cont-en.mkii \dump makes vista complain: = xetex.exe - Unable to Locate Component This application has failed to start because xetex.dll was not found. = Pressing OK, xetex crashes and things continue until 2. mtx-context | running command: xetex --ini --etex --8bit cont-nl.mkii \dump Then the same error occurs. After xetex crashes things continue briefly till first-setup.bat exits. Everything works fine, except that every now and then the following happens when I run a file: = This is LuaTeX, Version 0.97.0 (TeX Live 2016/W32TeX) system commands enabled. . <*> cont-yes.mkiv ? = A fresh run of first-setup.bat makes the problem go away but it is annoying. After getting even more weirdness when cloning to another machine -- see "first-setup.bat weirdness I: cloned system" -- it seems appropriate to put this one out to the forum as well. Any explanations and advice would be appreciated. Never had these problems using when updating manually... Thanks in advance and if you do a fresh install with --engine=luatex then you'll never run into xetex or pdftex issues as they will not get installed (you get a smaller footprint too) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | www.pragma-ade.nl | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] first-setup.bat weirdness II: xetex etc.
Dear syndicate, As mentioned in my other message, "first-setup.bat weirdness I: cloned system" I've now switched to the first-setup.bat way of updating. Two pieces of weirdness on the main machine: 1. mtx-context | running command: xetex --ini --etex --8bit cont-en.mkii \dump makes vista complain: = xetex.exe - Unable to Locate Component This application has failed to start because xetex.dll was not found. = Pressing OK, xetex crashes and things continue until 2. mtx-context | running command: xetex --ini --etex --8bit cont-nl.mkii \dump Then the same error occurs. After xetex crashes things continue briefly till first-setup.bat exits. Everything works fine, except that every now and then the following happens when I run a file: = This is LuaTeX, Version 0.97.0 (TeX Live 2016/W32TeX) system commands enabled. . <*> cont-yes.mkiv ? = A fresh run of first-setup.bat makes the problem go away but it is annoying. After getting even more weirdness when cloning to another machine -- see "first-setup.bat weirdness I: cloned system" -- it seems appropriate to put this one out to the forum as well. Any explanations and advice would be appreciated. Never had these problems using when updating manually... Thanks in advance and Best wishes Idris -- Idris Samawi Hamid Professor of Philosophy Colorado State University Fort Collins, CO 80523 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] font features in XeTeX
Robert Zydenbos <mailto:cont...@zydenbos.net>
6. Juli 2015 12:15
I would like to, but I need to use TrueType fonts for Indian scripts in
my work that are supported in XeTeX but not (yet) in LuaTeX.
As an experiment, I tried to use the so-called 'long s' in a Fraktur
font, which comes out well in XeTeX with LaTeX, but I must be doing
something wrong in ConTeXt.
Robert
Example:
% The 'StylisitcSet 11' in the font UnifrakturMaguntia should contain
the so-called 'long s'.
% Somehow it doesn't work.
\starttext
\definetypeface [hauptfont] [rm] [Xserif] [Charis SIL]
\definetypeface [schoenfont] [rm] [Xserif] [UnifrakturMaguntia]
[default] [features={StylisticSet=11}]
\switchtobodyfont [hauptfont]
Dies ist mit Features, denke ich.
{\switchtobodyfont [schoenfont] Und jetzt schreiben wir etwas in
Fraktur, das ist ja schöner.}
\stoptext
Below is a MkIV example where I enabled the Stylistic Set 11 for the
Fraktur font.
\definefontfeature [longs] [ss11=yes]
\definefontfamily [hauptfont] [rm] [Charis SIL]
\definefontfamily [schoenfont] [rm] [Unifraktur Maguntia]
[features={default,longs}]
\setupbodyfont[hauptfont]
\starttext
Dies ist mit Features, denke ich.
{\switchtobodyfont[schoenfont]Und jetzt schreiben wir etwas in Fraktur,
das ist ja schöner.}
\stoptext
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] font features in XeTeX
Hans Hagen wrote:
> On 7/6/2015 9:13 AM, Robert Zydenbos wrote:
>> Dear ConTeXt folk,
>>
>> Is there any simple way to pass font features as a parameter to
>> XeConTeXt? i am thinking of things like what in LaTeX would be (between
>> square brackets) "\setromanfont [AutoFakeSlant=0.5, AutoFakeBold=0.5]
>> {Doulos SIL Phon}".
>>
>> There has to be some way to do this, but I seem unable to find it in the
>> documentatioin I have.
>
> you can just append the directives to the font names (see type -xtx.mkii
> for examples). I don't know if AutoFakeBold is some built in feature. Is
> there a reason why you can't use mkiv with luatex?
I would like to, but I need to use TrueType fonts for Indian scripts in
my work that are supported in XeTeX but not (yet) in LuaTeX.
As an experiment, I tried to use the so-called 'long s' in a Fraktur
font, which comes out well in XeTeX with LaTeX, but I must be doing
something wrong in ConTeXt.
Robert
Example:
% The 'StylisitcSet 11' in the font UnifrakturMaguntia should contain
the so-called 'long s'.
% Somehow it doesn't work.
\starttext
\definetypeface [hauptfont] [rm] [Xserif] [Charis SIL]
\definetypeface [schoenfont] [rm] [Xserif] [UnifrakturMaguntia]
[default] [features={StylisticSet=11}]
\switchtobodyfont [hauptfont]
Dies ist mit Features, denke ich.
{\switchtobodyfont [schoenfont] Und jetzt schreiben wir etwas in
Fraktur, das ist ja schöner.}
\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] font features in XeTeX
On 7/6/2015 9:13 AM, Robert Zydenbos wrote:
Dear ConTeXt folk,
Is there any simple way to pass font features as a parameter to
XeConTeXt? i am thinking of things like what in LaTeX would be (between
square brackets) "\setromanfont [AutoFakeSlant=0.5, AutoFakeBold=0.5]
{Doulos SIL Phon}".
There has to be some way to do this, but I seem unable to find it in the
documentatioin I have.
you can just append the directives to the font names (see type -xtx.mkii
for examples). I don't know if AutoFakeBold is some built in feature. Is
there a reason why you can't use mkiv with luatex?
Hans
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[NTG-context] font features in XeTeX
Dear ConTeXt folk,
Is there any simple way to pass font features as a parameter to
XeConTeXt? i am thinking of things like what in LaTeX would be (between
square brackets) "\setromanfont [AutoFakeSlant=0.5, AutoFakeBold=0.5]
{Doulos SIL Phon}".
There has to be some way to do this, but I seem unable to find it in the
documentatioin I have.
RZ
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt, XeTeX, special effects in Indic font for Kannada
On Thu, Aug 8, 2013 at 1:51 PM, Hans Hagen wrote: > > forget about xetex, first check what context mkiv van do > Sorry to hijack this thread, but... Hans, it would be great to see Indic languages support in context/mkiv. At the moment I am typesetting, for example, in Malayalam using mkii+xetex. So I tested context (from TeXLive 2013 distribution) but found that the rendering is not correct. There are examples and screenshots here in an old thread: http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/89118/context-xetex-texlive-2012-does-not-work-for-indic-scripts-like-malayalam I am interested in helping, at least by testing, especially Malayalam support. Harfbuzz has excellent opentype support for Malayalam now, which could be used for comparing the rendering. -- Cheers, Rajeesh http://rajeeshknambiar.wordpress.com ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt, XeTeX, special effects in Indic font for Kannada
On 8/8/2013 2:26 PM, Robert Zydenbos wrote:
Is there any way to find out the font's possibilities, if one doesn't have any
technical documentation about it?
looking at tables in the font ... in fact, this font is somewhat messed
up as it uses latin glyph names for kannaga ligatures
concerning indic scripts ... this is an ongoing project:
- kai eigner made the first setup, for devangari only but extending is a
matter of adding more info
- i cleaned up the code and optimized it (runs reasonable fast now) and
and probably in the process broke some things
anyhow, I added a few more entries in tables and get different output
but also the impression that some glyphs get lost) so we're not there yet
\definefontfeature[slanted] [slant=.2]
\definefontfeature[boldened][extend=1.2]
\definefontfeature[kannada][devanagari-one][script=knda]
\starttypescript [serif] [kedage] [name]
\definefontsynonym[Serif] [file:kedage-n][features={kannada}]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBold]
[file:kedage-n][features={kannada,default,boldened}]
\definefontsynonym[SerifItalic]
[file:kedage-n][features={kannada,default,slanted}]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][file:kedage-n][features={kannada,default,boldened,slanted}]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [kedage]
\definetypeface[kedage][rm][serif][kedage][default]
\definetypeface[kedage][mm][math] [modern][default]
\stoptypescript
\setupbodyfont[kedage]
\enabletrackers[otf.analyzing]
\starttext
ಇದು ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿದೆ. ಬಹಳ ರೋಚಕವಾದುದು, ಹೀಗೆ ಬರೆಯುವುದು ಎಂದು ಭಾವಿಸುತ್ತೇನೆ.
{\definedfont[file:kedage-n]ಇದು ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿದೆ. ಬಹಳ ರೋಚಕವಾದುದು, ಹೀಗೆ ಬರೆಯುವುದು
ಎಂದು ಭಾವಿಸುತ್ತೇನೆ.}
% ಇದು ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿದೆ. ಬಹಳ ರೋಚಕವಾದುದು, ಹೀಗೆ ಬರೆಯುವುದು ಎಂದು ಭಾವಿಸುತ್ತೇನೆ.\par
% {\bf ಈಗ ದಪ್ಪಗೆ}\par
% , ಮತ್ತು\par
% {\it ಕೊಂಕು}\par
% .\par
\stoptext
we can probably best move this discussion off list .. for instance we
need to figure out what
-- 0C82 anusvara
-- 0C83 visarga
-- 0CBD avagraha
-- 0CD5 length mark
-- 0CD6 ai length mark
-- 0CE0 letter ll
-- 0CE1 letter rr
-- 0CE2 vowel sign l
-- 0CE2 vowel sign ll
-- 0CF1 sign
-- 0CF2 sign
-- OCE6 - OCEF digits
does (maybe some has to be added to some tables).
It's probably no big deal to get some more scripts working given what's
already there ... more a matter of testing (and no, i can't read those
scripts).
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt, XeTeX, special effects in Indic font for Kannada
Hans, Just now I tried your suggestions: On Aug 8, 2013, at 13:51 , Hans Hagen wrote: >> Here I see two possibilities: >> >> (1) use the XeTeX parameters FakeSlant and FakeBold, which I have done in >> LaTeX. But I do not know how this is done in ConTeXt. > > \starttext > > \definefontfeature[slanted] [slant=.2] > \definefontfeature[boldened][extend=1.2] > > \definedfont[file:kedage-n*default] ... The slanting and stretched effects come out nicely -- but the complex combinations of the signs are not supported as they are in XeTeX. XeTeX supports the combinations, but not the effects (see attachments hagen-kan-luatex.pdf and hagen-kan-xetex.pdf). >> (2) use the other font files (Kedage-b.TTF etc.), and again I do not know >> how to do this. > > \definefontfeature[slanted] [slant=.2] > \definefontfeature[boldened][extend=1.2] > > \starttypescript [serif] [kedage] [name] ... No, unfortunately that one doesn't work so well (see attachment hagen-kan1-luatex.pdf). > in context, there is experimental support for devanagari > \definedfont[file:kedage-n*devanagari-one] > > but it all depends on what the font provides Is there any way to find out the font's possibilities, if one doesn't have any technical documentation about it? Robert hagen-kan-luatex.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document hagen-kan-xetex.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document hagen-kan1-luatex.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] ConTeXt, XeTeX, special effects in Indic font for Kannada
On 8/8/2013 1:00 PM, Robert Zydenbos wrote:
On my Mac (Mountain Lion) I would like to use ConTeXt with a complex OpenType
font named Kedage for the Indian language Kannada, and I thought that I could
do this using XeTeX (because LuaTeX seems unable to handle Indic fonts at
present).
forget about xetex, first check what context mkiv van do
This freely available font (found on Linux systems, for instance) comes in four
files: Kedage-n.TTF, Kedage-b.TTF, Kedage-i.TTF, Kedage-t.TTF (normal, bold,
italic and bolditalic, respectively).
I have been partly successful with the simple command
\definefontsynonym[kan][name:Kedage]
and then using
\definedfont[kan]
where I want to have the font in the text. Also \font\kannada="Kedage" (and
\kannada later in the text) seems to work well without any further indications of
language, script etc.
it all depends on how much processing is needed
in context, there is experimental support for devanagari
\definedfont[file:kedage-n*devanagari-one]
but it all depends on what the font provides
However, I would also like to use the bold, italic and bolditalic forms of the
font. Simply using \bold and \em does not work.
Here I see two possibilities:
(1) use the XeTeX parameters FakeSlant and FakeBold, which I have done in
LaTeX. But I do not know how this is done in ConTeXt.
\starttext
\definefontfeature[slanted] [slant=.2]
\definefontfeature[boldened][extend=1.2]
\definedfont[file:kedage-n*default]
ಇಡೀ ಪ್ರಪಂಚದ ಜನರು ಒಂದೇ ಭಾಷೆಯನ್ನು ಮಾತಾಡುತ್ತಿ ದ್ದರು
\definedfont[file:kedage-n*default,slanted]
ಇಡೀ ಪ್ರಪಂಚದ ಜನರು ಒಂದೇ ಭಾಷೆಯನ್ನು ಮಾತಾಡುತ್ತಿ ದ್ದರು
\definedfont[file:kedage-n*default,boldened]
ಇಡೀ ಪ್ರಪಂಚದ ಜನರು ಒಂದೇ ಭಾಷೆಯನ್ನು ಮಾತಾಡುತ್ತಿ ದ್ದರು
\definedfont[Serif*default]
test
\definedfont[Serif*default,boldened]
test
\stoptext
(2) use the other font files (Kedage-b.TTF etc.), and again I do not know how
to do this.
see type-imp-* files (or give simplefonts a try)
\definefontfeature[slanted] [slant=.2]
\definefontfeature[boldened][extend=1.2]
\starttypescript [serif] [kedage] [name]
\definefontsynonym[Serif] [file:kedage-n]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBold]
[file:kedage-n][features={default,boldened}]
\definefontsynonym[SerifItalic]
[file:kedage-n][features={default,slanted}]
\definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][file:kedage-n][features={default,boldened,slanted}]
\stoptypescript
\starttypescript [kedage]
\definetypeface[kedage][rm][serif][kedage][default]
\definetypeface[kedage][mm][math] [modern][default]
\stoptypescript
\setupbodyfont[kedage]
\starttext
ಇದು ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿದೆ. ಬಹಳ ರೋಚಕವಾದುದು, ಹೀಗೆ ಬರೆಯುವುದು ಎಂದು ಭಾವಿಸುತ್ತೇನೆ.
{\bf ಈಗ ದಪ್ಪಗೆ}
, ಮತ್ತು
{\it ಕೊಂಕು}
.
ಇದು ಕನ್ನಡದಲ್ಲಿದೆ. ಬಹಳ ರೋಚಕವಾದುದು, ಹೀಗೆ ಬರೆಯುವುದು ಎಂದು ಭಾವಿಸುತ್ತೇನೆ.\par
{\bf ಈಗ ದಪ್ಪಗೆ}\par
, ಮತ್ತು\par
{\it ಕೊಂಕು}\par
.\par
\stoptext
Beware: there is bug in the luatex backend with respect to switching
slanted/boldened that sometimes shows up.
Hans
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[NTG-context] ConTeXt, XeTeX, special effects in Indic font for Kannada
On my Mac (Mountain Lion) I would like to use ConTeXt with a complex OpenType font named Kedage for the Indian language Kannada, and I thought that I could do this using XeTeX (because LuaTeX seems unable to handle Indic fonts at present). This freely available font (found on Linux systems, for instance) comes in four files: Kedage-n.TTF, Kedage-b.TTF, Kedage-i.TTF, Kedage-t.TTF (normal, bold, italic and bolditalic, respectively). I have been partly successful with the simple command \definefontsynonym[kan][name:Kedage] and then using \definedfont[kan] where I want to have the font in the text. Also \font\kannada="Kedage" (and \kannada later in the text) seems to work well without any further indications of language, script etc. However, I would also like to use the bold, italic and bolditalic forms of the font. Simply using \bold and \em does not work. Here I see two possibilities: (1) use the XeTeX parameters FakeSlant and FakeBold, which I have done in LaTeX. But I do not know how this is done in ConTeXt. (2) use the other font files (Kedage-b.TTF etc.), and again I do not know how to do this. Can anybody help me out, either way? (I have attached a sample.) Robert kannadacontext.pdf Description: Adobe PDF document kannadacontext.tex Description: Binary data ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Question about current ConTeXt with XeTeX
Thanks for the clear and detailed explanation. It helped clear up the difference, or lak thereof between the -xtxx anf --xetex options for the different scripts/programs. Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:25 PM, wrote: > > > > I just read in contextgarden.net the following: > > "Note that XeTeX uses mkii and LuaTeX uses mkiv ; in principle mkii is > > frozen so new features and improvements will only happen in mkiv." > > > > I use the ConTeXt which comes in TEXLIVE 2012, which I assume uses Mark > > IV. > > ConTeXt in TL 2012 provides both Mark II and IV. There is no plan to > kick MkII out of TeX Live. > > > Does that mean that I can not use this version of ConTeXt with XeteX which > > also comes packaged in TEXLIVE? > > Of course you can use it. It is indeed true that ConTeXt uses MkII for > XeTeX and that MkII it is frozen, but nothing prevents you from using > XeTeX with ConTeXt. Any of the following commands should work: > texexec --xtx filename[.tex] > texexec --xetex filename[.tex] > context --xetex filename[.tex] > > Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] [***SPAM***] Question about current ConTeXt with XeTeX
Thanks for the helpful information. I didn't know tha MkII was included in the distribution or about the --xetex option. Darel Marco Patzer wrote: > On 2013–02–22 hwit...@gmail.com wrote: > > > I use the ConTeXt which comes in TEXLIVE 2012, which I assume uses Mark > > IV. Does that mean that I can not use this version of ConTeXt with XeteX > > which also comes packaged in TEXLIVE? > > You can use MkII with XeTeX as follows: > > context --xetex file.tex > > Marco > ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
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On Fri, Feb 22, 2013 at 12:25 PM, wrote: > > I just read in contextgarden.net the following: > "Note that XeTeX uses mkii and LuaTeX uses mkiv ; in principle mkii is > frozen so new features and improvements will only happen in mkiv." > > I use the ConTeXt which comes in TEXLIVE 2012, which I assume uses Mark IV. ConTeXt in TL 2012 provides both Mark II and IV. There is no plan to kick MkII out of TeX Live. > Does that mean that I can not use this version of ConTeXt with XeteX which > also comes packaged in TEXLIVE? Of course you can use it. It is indeed true that ConTeXt uses MkII for XeTeX and that MkII it is frozen, but nothing prevents you from using XeTeX with ConTeXt. Any of the following commands should work: texexec --xtx filename[.tex] texexec --xetex filename[.tex] context --xetex filename[.tex] Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
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I just read in contextgarden.net the following: "Note that XeTeX uses mkii and LuaTeX uses mkiv ; in principle mkii is frozen so new features and improvements will only happen in mkiv." I use the ConTeXt which comes in TEXLIVE 2012, which I assume uses Mark IV. Does that mean that I can not use this version of ConTeXt with XeteX which also comes packaged in TEXLIVE? Regards ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX, ConTeXt and font/filename quote char
On Sun, Dec 23, 2012 at 02:50:06PM +0100, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 12/23/2012 7:29 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote: > >Hi all, > > > >Some people have been complaining that it is not possible to use XeTeX > >with filenames containing parenthesis because XeTeX treats it as > >filename quote char and this it gets stripped. Anyway, after some > >searching it turned out this was added in 2004 for ConTeXt to workaround > >some MetaPost quotation issue[1]. > > > >Now I'm not sure if this is still needed/used by ConTeXt and was > >wondering if it can be dropped now? > > I don't know .. tests must show this. I never use(d) XeTeX myself > apart from generating a format to if that works. I have no problem > with changing something given that it doesn't break something. I’m going to drop it until somebody complains, it is such an obscure feature, not documented anywhere and no other engine supports such quoting. Regards, Khaled ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] XeTeX, ConTeXt and font/filename quote char
On 12/23/2012 7:29 AM, Khaled Hosny wrote: Hi all, Some people have been complaining that it is not possible to use XeTeX with filenames containing parenthesis because XeTeX treats it as filename quote char and this it gets stripped. Anyway, after some searching it turned out this was added in 2004 for ConTeXt to workaround some MetaPost quotation issue[1]. Now I'm not sure if this is still needed/used by ConTeXt and was wondering if it can be dropped now? I don't know .. tests must show this. I never use(d) XeTeX myself apart from generating a format to if that works. I have no problem with changing something given that it doesn't break something. Hans (who's never seen filenames with ( ) except for some titles in music repository) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] XeTeX, ConTeXt and font/filename quote char
Hi all, Some people have been complaining that it is not possible to use XeTeX with filenames containing parenthesis because XeTeX treats it as filename quote char and this it gets stripped. Anyway, after some searching it turned out this was added in 2004 for ConTeXt to workaround some MetaPost quotation issue[1]. Now I'm not sure if this is still needed/used by ConTeXt and was wondering if it can be dropped now? Regards, Khaled [1] http://tug.org/pipermail/xetex/2004-October/001215.html ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] (XeTeX) trouble debugging a "Missing number" error
In response to Hans Hagen and Wolfgang Schuster's messages of Dec. 5, Just to let you know, in response to your messages, I am working a small, self-contained example that reproduces the problem. However I have been asked to focus on a different project for a few days, so ... please don't interpret my silence as "We asked him to do due diligence and he never answered." :-) Hopefully I'll be back with more, next week. Regards, Lars ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] (XeTeX) trouble debugging a "Missing number" error
Am 05.12.2012 um 16:46 schrieb Lars Huttar :
> /Hans Hagen wrote (///Wed Dec 5 14:10:12 CET 2012/):/
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12/5/2012 11:19 AM, Lars Huttar wrote:
>>> / Hi all,
>> />
>
> /...
>
> /
>> /
>> />/
>> />/ % Abbreviations
>> />/ \definestartstop
>> />/[abblist]
>> />/[before={\setupbackgrounds[text][background=verticalline]
>> />/ \starttextbackground[text]
>> />/
>> \setuptab[headstyle={\switchtobodyfont[SansB,\SansBsize]},width=20mm,location=left]
>> />/ \startcolumnset[abbcolumn] \startalignment[flushleft,nothyphenated]},
>> />/ after={\stopalignment \stopcolumnset \stoptextbackground
>> />/ \setupbackgrounds[text][background=off]}]
>> /
>> you can try
>>
>> \unexpanded\def\StartAbbList
>> {\setupbackgrounds[text][background=verticalline]
>>\starttextbackground[text]
>>
>> \setuptab[headstyle={\switchtobodyfont[SansB,\SansBsize]},width=20mm,location=left]
>>\startcolumnset[abbcolumn]
>>\startalignment[flushleft,nothyphenated]}
>>
>> \unexpanded\def\StopAbbList
>> {\stopalignment
>>\stopcolumnset
>>\stoptextbackground
>>\setupbackgrounds[text][background=off]}
>>
>> \definestartstop
>> [abblist]
>> [before=\StartAbbList,
>>after=\StopAbbList]
>
> Thanks, I will try this.
> Is the goal of this change to fix the error? To help diagnose it?
> I don't really understand the use of \unexpanded.
Putting many command and setup in the before and after keys for \definestartstop
isn’t the nicest way to create start/stop command, Hans used a two step method
and put all setups and separate commands which are now used by \definestartstop.
Defining command with \unexpanded\def\…{…} instead of \def\…{…} can prevent
you from unwanted side effects when you use command in headings etc.
> After making this change, the behavior is unaffected... I still get the
> "Missing number" error, etc.
The information you provided aren sufficient to reproduce the error,
according to the message there is a problem with columnsets but there
is no way to tell why you get it.
>> in such case best make a small example, for instance how is abblist used?
>
>
> \startabblist{
> \tab{\ITC{alt.}}\AE{alternate name for}\par
> ...
> \tab{USDS}\AE{US Department of State}\par
> }\stopabblist
>
> where \AE is defined as:
>
> \def\AE#1{\hskip -3mm \SerifL{#1} \vskip 1mm}
Can you provide a working minimal example which does produce the error.
>>> /
>> />/ E16settings.tex: I added these definitions:
>> />/ \define\XLfontsize{14pt}
>> />/ \define\XXLfontsize{16pt}
>> />/
>> />/ There are modes involved, so things are a bit more complicated, but I
>> />/ believe that is the only effective difference.
>> /
>> and how about:
>>
>> \def\XLfontsize{14pt}
>> \def\XXLfontsize{16pt}
>
> I will try that, but all our font size definitions have always used
> \define, and it used to work fine without errors.
> On http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/define it says that \define is
> like the TeX primitive \def, but "will print an error to the log file if
> the new definition overwrites an existing command".
> I checked the log file, and there is no error mentioning XLfontsize.
>
> So the purpose of your suggestion is to remove the possibility of
> reporting a duplicate definition? (There's probably more to it than that
> - I'm just trying to understand.)
>
> I tried changing \define to \def as you suggested. The result was
> unchanged - same error.
There is no difference between \define and \def in MkII but for MkIV
there is a difference because \define is \unexpanded\def and the new
command \defineexpandable corresponds to the normal \def.
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] (XeTeX) trouble debugging a "Missing number" error
/Hans Hagen wrote (///Wed Dec 5 14:10:12 CET 2012/):/
>
>
>
> On 12/5/2012 11:19 AM, Lars Huttar wrote:
> >/ Hi all,
> />
/...
/
> /
> />/
> />/ % Abbreviations
> />/ \definestartstop
> />/[abblist]
> />/[before={\setupbackgrounds[text][background=verticalline]
> />/ \starttextbackground[text]
> />/
> \setuptab[headstyle={\switchtobodyfont[SansB,\SansBsize]},width=20mm,location=left]
> />/ \startcolumnset[abbcolumn] \startalignment[flushleft,nothyphenated]},
> />/ after={\stopalignment \stopcolumnset \stoptextbackground
> />/ \setupbackgrounds[text][background=off]}]
> /
> you can try
>
> \unexpanded\def\StartAbbList
>{\setupbackgrounds[text][background=verticalline]
> \starttextbackground[text]
>
> \setuptab[headstyle={\switchtobodyfont[SansB,\SansBsize]},width=20mm,location=left]
> \startcolumnset[abbcolumn]
> \startalignment[flushleft,nothyphenated]}
>
> \unexpanded\def\StopAbbList
>{\stopalignment
> \stopcolumnset
> \stoptextbackground
> \setupbackgrounds[text][background=off]}
>
> \definestartstop
>[abblist]
>[before=\StartAbbList,
> after=\StopAbbList]
Thanks, I will try this.
Is the goal of this change to fix the error? To help diagnose it?
I don't really understand the use of \unexpanded.
After making this change, the behavior is unaffected... I still get the
"Missing number" error, etc.
>
> in such case best make a small example, for instance how is abblist used?
\startabblist{
\tab{\ITC{alt.}}\AE{alternate name for}\par
...
\tab{USDS}\AE{US Department of State}\par
}\stopabblist
where \AE is defined as:
\def\AE#1{\hskip -3mm \SerifL{#1} \vskip 1mm}
> >/
> />/ E16settings.tex: I added these definitions:
> />/ \define\XLfontsize{14pt}
> />/ \define\XXLfontsize{16pt}
> />/
> />/ There are modes involved, so things are a bit more complicated, but I
> />/ believe that is the only effective difference.
> /
> and how about:
>
> \def\XLfontsize{14pt}
> \def\XXLfontsize{16pt}
I will try that, but all our font size definitions have always used
\define, and it used to work fine without errors.
On http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Command/define it says that \define is
like the TeX primitive \def, but "will print an error to the log file if
the new definition overwrites an existing command".
I checked the log file, and there is no error mentioning XLfontsize.
So the purpose of your suggestion is to remove the possibility of
reporting a duplicate definition? (There's probably more to it than that
- I'm just trying to understand.)
I tried changing \define to \def as you suggested. The result was
unchanged - same error.
Regards,
Lars
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Re: [NTG-context] (XeTeX) trouble debugging a "Missing number" error
On 12/5/2012 11:19 AM, Lars Huttar wrote:
Hi all,
I'm working with some code that was developed by someone else.
The document I'm typesetting is now giving the following error:
! Missing number, treated as zero.
\otr:1:27
\OTRSETdoifcellelse ...er #1:\number #2\endcsname
\@EA
\secondoftwoarguments...
\@@ar@@1 ...ellelse {\mofcolumns }\columnlastcell
{\global \advance
\columnl...
\redoloop ->\expandrecursecontent
\endofloop
{
28
l.12 \startabblist
{
?
I haven't been able to figure out what's wrong or how to fix it.
I had just made changes to refactor the definitions of fonts. (I
confirmed that these changes really are a necessary cause of the error:
when I back out just these changes, the error goes away.)
From the above error message I understand the error was detected during
the expansion of \startabblist. Here's the definition of abblist:
% Abbreviations
\definestartstop
[abblist]
[before={\setupbackgrounds[text][background=verticalline]
\starttextbackground[text]
\setuptab[headstyle={\switchtobodyfont[SansB,\SansBsize]},width=20mm,location=left]
\startcolumnset[abbcolumn] \startalignment[flushleft,nothyphenated]},
after={\stopalignment \stopcolumnset \stoptextbackground
\setupbackgrounds[text][background=off]}]
you can try
\unexpanded\def\StartAbbList
{\setupbackgrounds[text][background=verticalline]
\starttextbackground[text]
\setuptab[headstyle={\switchtobodyfont[SansB,\SansBsize]},width=20mm,location=left]
\startcolumnset[abbcolumn]
\startalignment[flushleft,nothyphenated]}
\unexpanded\def\StopAbbList
{\stopalignment
\stopcolumnset
\stoptextbackground
\setupbackgrounds[text][background=off]}
\definestartstop
[abblist]
[before=\StartAbbList,
after=\StopAbbList]
in such case best make a small example, for instance how is abblist used?
From that, one might guess that the font SansB or the font dimension
\SansBsize were the problem. But those definitions haven't changed
(though I would like to confirm that empirically with a run-time trace
message).
Here are the font settings changes that did occur:
E16fonts.tex:
changed this block:
\definefont[SerifXLI][name:GentiumBookBasic-Italic at 10pt]
\definefont[SerifXXL][name:GentiumBookBasic at 12pt]
\definefont[SerifXXLB][name:GentiumBookBasic-Bold at 12pt]
to use size dimensions defined elsewhere:
\definefont[SerifXLI][name:GentiumBookBasic-Italic at \XLfontsize]
\definefont[SerifXXL][name:GentiumBookBasic at \XXLfontsize]
\definefont[SerifXXLB][name:GentiumBookBasic-Bold at \XXLfontsize]
E16settings.tex: I added these definitions:
\define\XLfontsize{14pt}
\define\XXLfontsize{16pt}
There are modes involved, so things are a bit more complicated, but I
believe that is the only effective difference.
and how about:
\def\XLfontsize{14pt}
\def\XXLfontsize{16pt}
I also created a log file, which I'll attach.
There is also a version with \tracingmacros=1, but it's 600K, so I'll
put it at
http://www.huttar.net/tmp/country-report-country_id-15-tracing.log
Thanks for taking a look. Please let me know what further information I
need to provide.
I can provide the .tex files themselves upon request.
I would especially like to know better techniques for debugging -- how I
can induce TeX/ConTeXt to tell me more about what's going on. I realize
that as a macro language, this is inherently difficult with TeX.
yes, it's not always easy ... best is to make small tests (while
developing styles) and test those snippets ... due to tex's expansion
there can always be nasty interferences in complex setups
We are heavily invested in XeTeX, so switching to LuaTeX in the near
term is not an option.
a pitty as it runs smoother (and context mkiv has some more features)
(i never used xetex in production and as in context it used the mkii
macros there are not updates, so in principle old runs should still run)
Hans
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[NTG-context] (XeTeX) trouble debugging a "Missing number" error
Hi all,
I'm working with some code that was developed by someone else.
The document I'm typesetting is now giving the following error:
! Missing number, treated as zero.
\otr:1:27
\OTRSETdoifcellelse ...er #1:\number #2\endcsname
\@EA
\secondoftwoarguments...
\@@ar@@1 ...ellelse {\mofcolumns }\columnlastcell
{\global \advance
\columnl...
\redoloop ->\expandrecursecontent
\endofloop
{
28
...
l.12 \startabblist
{
?
I haven't been able to figure out what's wrong or how to fix it.
I had just made changes to refactor the definitions of fonts. (I
confirmed that these changes really are a necessary cause of the error:
when I back out just these changes, the error goes away.)
>From the above error message I understand the error was detected during
the expansion of \startabblist. Here's the definition of abblist:
% Abbreviations
\definestartstop
[abblist]
[before={\setupbackgrounds[text][background=verticalline]
\starttextbackground[text]
\setuptab[headstyle={\switchtobodyfont[SansB,\SansBsize]},width=20mm,location=left]
\startcolumnset[abbcolumn] \startalignment[flushleft,nothyphenated]},
after={\stopalignment \stopcolumnset \stoptextbackground
\setupbackgrounds[text][background=off]}]
>From that, one might guess that the font SansB or the font dimension
\SansBsize were the problem. But those definitions haven't changed
(though I would like to confirm that empirically with a run-time trace
message).
Here are the font settings changes that did occur:
E16fonts.tex:
changed this block:
\definefont[SerifXLI][name:GentiumBookBasic-Italic at 10pt]
\definefont[SerifXXL][name:GentiumBookBasic at 12pt]
\definefont[SerifXXLB][name:GentiumBookBasic-Bold at 12pt]
to use size dimensions defined elsewhere:
\definefont[SerifXLI][name:GentiumBookBasic-Italic at \XLfontsize]
\definefont[SerifXXL][name:GentiumBookBasic at \XXLfontsize]
\definefont[SerifXXLB][name:GentiumBookBasic-Bold at \XXLfontsize]
E16settings.tex: I added these definitions:
\define\XLfontsize{14pt}
\define\XXLfontsize{16pt}
There are modes involved, so things are a bit more complicated, but I
believe that is the only effective difference.
I also created a log file, which I'll attach.
There is also a version with \tracingmacros=1, but it's 600K, so I'll
put it at
http://www.huttar.net/tmp/country-report-country_id-15-tracing.log
Thanks for taking a look. Please let me know what further information I
need to provide.
I can provide the .tex files themselves upon request.
I would especially like to know better techniques for debugging -- how I
can induce TeX/ConTeXt to tell me more about what's going on. I realize
that as a macro language, this is inherently difficult with TeX.
We are heavily invested in XeTeX, so switching to LuaTeX in the near
term is not an option.
ConTeXt version: ConTeXt ver: 2012.05.30 11:26 MKII fmt: 2012.11.14
int: english/english
(From TeX Live 2012)
XeTeX version: 3.1415926-2.4-0.9998 (TeX Live 2012) (format=cont-en
2012.11.14)
Lars
This is XeTeX, Version 3.1415926-2.4-0.9998 (TeX Live 2012) (format=cont-en
2012.11.14) 4 DEC 2012 14:17
entering extended mode
restricted \write18 enabled.
%&-line parsing enabled.
**country-report-country_id-15.tex
(./country-report-country_id-15.tex
ConTeXt ver: 2012.05.30 11:26 MKII fmt: 2012.11.14 int: english/english
system : cont-new.mkii loaded
(/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/cont-new.mkii
systems : beware: some patches loaded from cont-new.mkii
)
system : cont-sys.rme loaded
(/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/tex/context/user/cont-sys.rme
(/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-siz.mkii)
(/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-otf.mkii)
(/usr/local/texlive/2012/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/type-xtx.mkii))
system : country-report-country_id-15.top loaded
(./country-report-country_id-15.top)
bodyfont: 12pt rm is loaded
language: patterns nl->default:default->1->2:2 us->default:default->2->
2:3 de->default:default->3->3:3 da->default:default->4->2:2 sv->default:default
->5->2:2 af->default:default->6->2:2 gb->default:default->7->2:2 fr->default:de
fault->8->2:2 es->default:default->9->2:2 ca->default:default->10->2:2 it->defa
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ro->default:default->14->2:2 pl->default:default->15->2:2 cs->default:default->
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[NTG-context] Typescripts package and MkII/XeTeX
Hi all, are there people who use typescripts from my collection which are available with minimals in combination with XeTeX. I'm planing to remove the MkII files and will only keep files which are in use. For people who use MkIV there is nothing to worry because these files will be kept. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
On 18-3-2011 3:54, mathew wrote: On Mar 14, 2011, at 16:49, Marco wrote: I totally agree. But Cecil mentioned in another thread: »My document is mostly text.« Even if a few mp graphics are involved luatex is still noticeably slower. I look at it from the perspective that the last time I used TeX, my 8MHz Atari ST took several seconds to process each page. And then it took several seconds per page for the previewer to show me the DVI. And I couldn't do anything else on the machine while it was working. My way of working now is that I keep a short scratchpad document in TeXworks, and use it to sort out my formatting and macros, taking advantage of the live preview. When I'm done, I copy the definitions into my actual working document, which I edit in vim. I only typeset the entire working document once or twice an hour, if that; vim catches syntax errors. So if LuaTex takes a few seconds longer to do the typesetting, it's completely unimportant. it's no problem to get a 250 pages per second throughput in mkiv but as soon as you add more interesting things to a page work needs to be done and that takes runtime on the average i get some 10-15 pages per second for documents of normal complexity on my (by now) 5 year old laptop that i use for development which is quite ok (mk.pdf: 10 pps, hybrid.pdf: 11 pps, cld-mkiv: 15 pps) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
On Mar 14, 2011, at 16:49, Marco wrote: > I totally agree. But Cecil mentioned in another thread: »My document is mostly > text.« Even if a few mp graphics are involved luatex is still noticeably > slower. I look at it from the perspective that the last time I used TeX, my 8MHz Atari ST took several seconds to process each page. And then it took several seconds per page for the previewer to show me the DVI. And I couldn't do anything else on the machine while it was working. My way of working now is that I keep a short scratchpad document in TeXworks, and use it to sort out my formatting and macros, taking advantage of the live preview. When I'm done, I copy the definitions into my actual working document, which I edit in vim. I only typeset the entire working document once or twice an hour, if that; vim catches syntax errors. So if LuaTex takes a few seconds longer to do the typesetting, it's completely unimportant. mathew ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
On 2011-03-14 Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > xetex: > > + system fonts are easily accessible > > - no protrusion, no font expansion > > I never tried to use them, but I thought that Han The Thanh [please > add the accents] added that to XeTeX semi-recently > (http://scripts.sil.org/svn-view/xetex/TRUNK/, the last comment 8 > months ago: "merged microtype branch to trunk"). I don't follow xetex development any more, so my information was outdated. Thanks for the correction. > > luatex: > > + protrusion, font expansion, easy access of system fonts, scripting > > language included, fast with mplib > > - in general much slower > > ... depending on whether "in general" includes metapost or not. A > speed factor of ten (faster) is nothing unusual for luatex when many > metapost graphics come into play. I totally agree. But Cecil mentioned in another thread: »My document is mostly text.« Even if a few mp graphics are involved luatex is still noticeably slower. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 19:44, Marco wrote: > On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhof wrote: >> 2011/3/14 Marco wrote: >> > On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhof wrote: >> > >> > > When installing minimals you have MKII, XeTeX and MKIV. I understand >> > > that you should normally use MKIV, but when are the other two used? They are mostly relicts of the past which still happen to be supported. (But if ConTeXt was written from scratch, there would probably be no support for them.) I often write mathematical-oriented papers that need zero tweaking with OpenType fonts, complex layouts or that could benefit from lua scripting. I compile those randomly with MKII and MKIV, if nothing else to check for differences, or if there is a problem in MKIV, I can always use MKII is a fallback. MKII hardly ever changes, so it is slightly more reliable in some cases, but it is very limited in comparison to MKIV. I use XeTeX mostly when I need OpenType fonts and something in MKIV breaks. XeTeX has some advantages in out-of-the-box support for exotic scripts (which I don't use), but many of its features are not supported in ConTeXt at the high-level user interface. In general, XeTeX is the least supported engine in ConTeXt community. In contrary, for LaTeX users XeTeX is becoming the mainstream engine to use (best supported by active developers). >> > MKII can be used either with pdftex or xetex (as you wish, compare >> > advantages/disadvantages). MKIV can only be used with luatex. >> > >> > You have to differ between ConTeXt »versions« (mkii, mkiv) and TeX >> > backends (pdftex, xetex, luatex). >> > >> >> And where do I find the advantages/disadvantages? > > Wikipedia, google, information source of your slightest distrust. > Short and incomplete: > > pdftex: > + protrusion, font expansion > - fonts are a nightmare (you should have put three minuses there :) + stability > xetex: > + system fonts are easily accessible > - no protrusion, no font expansion I never tried to use them, but I thought that Han The Thanh [please add the accents] added that to XeTeX semi-recently (http://scripts.sil.org/svn-view/xetex/TRUNK/, the last comment 8 months ago: "merged microtype branch to trunk"). > luatex: > + protrusion, font expansion, easy access of system fonts, scripting language > included, fast with mplib > - in general much slower ... depending on whether "in general" includes metapost or not. A speed factor of ten (faster) is nothing unusual for luatex when many metapost graphics come into play. ++ better support >> Or can I just always use MKIV? > > Yes, you can. Definitely. You don't need to bother, just stick to MKIV as long as it works fine for you. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
On 14-3-2011 7:26, Cecil Westerhof wrote: 2011/3/14 Marco On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhof wrote: When installing minimals you have MKII, XeTeX and MKIV. I understand that you should normally use MKIV, but when are the other two used? MKII can be used either with pdftex or xetex (as you wish, compare advantages/disadvantages). MKIV can only be used with luatex. You have to differ between ConTeXt »versions« (mkii, mkiv) and TeX backends (pdftex, xetex, luatex). And where do I find the advantages/disadvantages? Or can I just always use MKIV? As already mentioned speed depends on the kind of document. In general context runs slower with xetex and luatex if only because these are unicode engines while pdftex is 8 bit. Occasionally i do speed tests and it also depends on the operating system, file caching etc. For luatex the size of the cpu cache also matters. Although pdftex/mkiv is always faster unless on eused metapoist in which case mkiv is a clear winner (the metafun manual runs in tens of seconds in mkiv but takes many minutes in mkii. Comparing xetex/mkii and luatex/mkiv is difficult as xetex also pipes its output to a dvi backend. On some tests mkiv is faster, on some others mkii but I must admit that i only tested simple document. On a raw simple document, pdftex can be twice as fast as xetex or luatex. The more lua driven features are used, the slower mkiv becomes but in general it does a better job then. Anyhow .. only luatex/mkiv will evolve so best stick to that. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhof wrote: > 2011/3/14 Marco > > > On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhof wrote: > > > > > When installing minimals you have MKII, XeTeX and MKIV. I understand > > > that you should normally use MKIV, but when are the other two used? > > > > MKII can be used either with pdftex or xetex (as you wish, compare > > advantages/disadvantages). MKIV can only be used with luatex. > > > > You have to differ between ConTeXt »versions« (mkii, mkiv) and TeX > > backends (pdftex, xetex, luatex). > > > > And where do I find the advantages/disadvantages? Wikipedia, google, information source of your slightest distrust. Short and incomplete: pdftex: + protrusion, font expansion - fonts are a nightmare xetex: + system fonts are easily accessible - no protrusion, no font expansion luatex: + protrusion, font expansion, easy access of system fonts, scripting language included, fast with mplib - in general much slower > Or can I just always use MKIV? Yes, you can. Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
2011/3/14 Marco > On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhof wrote: > > > When installing minimals you have MKII, XeTeX and MKIV. I understand that > > you should normally use MKIV, but when are the other two used? > > MKII can be used either with pdftex or xetex (as you wish, compare > advantages/disadvantages). MKIV can only be used with luatex. > > You have to differ between ConTeXt »versions« (mkii, mkiv) and TeX backends > (pdftex, xetex, luatex). > And where do I find the advantages/disadvantages? Or can I just always use MKIV? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
On 2011-03-14 Cecil Westerhof wrote: > When installing minimals you have MKII, XeTeX and MKIV. I understand that > you should normally use MKIV, but when are the other two used? MKII can be used either with pdftex or xetex (as you wish, compare advantages/disadvantages). MKIV can only be used with luatex. You have to differ between ConTeXt »versions« (mkii, mkiv) and TeX backends (pdftex, xetex, luatex). Marco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Difference between MKII, XeTeX and MKIV
When installing minimals you have MKII, XeTeX and MKIV. I understand that you should normally use MKIV, but when are the other two used? -- Cecil Westerhof ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Interesting package for XeTeX
On Wed, 22 Dec 2010 11:02:03 +0100 Ulrike Fischer wrote: Do you know where (roughly) the code for the fallback is? I would like to know how it work. -- You mean where it is actually defined in the core files? A quick grep for "fontfallback" shows that it's in font-ini.mkiv and font-ctx.lua. Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Interesting package for XeTeX
Am Tue, 21 Dec 2010 18:37:12 +0100 schrieb Thomas Schmitz: > I know that with the font fallback mechanism, it's > trivial to change fonts for unicode ranges, Do you know where (roughly) the code for the fallback is? I would like to know how it work. -- Ulrike Fischer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Interesting package for XeTeX
On 21-12-2010 6:37, Thomas Schmitz wrote:
I was wondering: is something similar possible in mkiv yet? I know that
with the font fallback mechanism, it's trivial to change fonts for
unicode ranges, but is it possible to change hyphenation patterns (or
even insert "arbitrary code") according to unicode blocks? Would be
quite helpful for those of us working with different scripts.
For latin an unicode block does not relate to a language so it would be
broken by design to add such an automatism, however, for a while already
it is possible in mkiv to load multiple patterns.
See mixed-001.tex in the test suits
\setuplanguage[ru][patterns={ru,us}]
\setuplanguage[en][patterns={us,ru}]
\setuplanguage[de][patterns={de,ru}]
I suppose that greek can also be happily mixed in as well (I suppose
that's what you want).
Hans
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[NTG-context] Interesting package for XeTeX
Hi all, on ctt, I just saw an annoucement for a xe(la)tex package which I found quite interesting. Here's the description: Location on CTAN: /macros/xetex/latex/ucharclasses This package addresses one of the few features where TeX still has to play catch-up to word processing programs: automatic font switching for different languages. In fact, it goes one better than word processing programs and comes with macros for inserting arbitrary code between text from different unicode blocks, by making use of XeTeX's little known "intercharclass" behaviour. I was wondering: is something similar possible in mkiv yet? I know that with the font fallback mechanism, it's trivial to change fonts for unicode ranges, but is it possible to change hyphenation patterns (or even insert "arbitrary code") according to unicode blocks? Would be quite helpful for those of us working with different scripts. All best Thomas ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF's generated by XeTeX and LuaTeX, font licensing
On 17-8-2010 8:18, Arthur Reutenauer wrote: Just included the used characters, not the whole font file. Some of the other tables are also stripped down (not only the 'glyf' table), so that the embedded font is not complete. In fact, some programs will refuse to open the font if we extract it from the PDF, which is precisely the idea of a subsetted font (you can't use the PDF to retrieve the font). I wonder about these webfonts .. the whole model is based on good will and no abuse .. it's a comparable issue. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF's generated by XeTeX and LuaTeX, font licensing
> Just included the used characters, not the whole font file. Some of the other tables are also stripped down (not only the 'glyf' table), so that the embedded font is not complete. In fact, some programs will refuse to open the font if we extract it from the PDF, which is precisely the idea of a subsetted font (you can't use the PDF to retrieve the font). Arthur ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF's generated by XeTeX and LuaTeX, font licensing
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 04:34:57PM +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > On 08/17/2010 03:05 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote: > >>> > >>>Do PDF's generated by XeTeX and LuaTeX "subset the font" in this way? > >> > >>Yes, this is the default. So unless you have manually interfered, the > >>included fonts are always subsetted. > > > >I'm interested in the other way around, how can I tell luatex (or > >context) to not subset the font, > > \enabledirectives[fonts.embedall] Thanks. > >and I read that some recent version of > >PDF specification allow embedding of unchanged opentype fonts (as > >compared to converting them to type1 fonts), does luatex support (or > >plan to support) that feature? > > In LuaTeX, we are not converting to Type1, OpenType fonts are always > embedded as CID Type0C, Truetype as CID TrueType. But some OT tables > are stripped for efficiency reasons (GSUB and GPOS, for example). I can't tell a difference :) I'm just interested in being able to extract the full font from PDF with all tables and stuff (they are my fonts, so the legal side is sorted out), but I don't actually have a use case for that :) Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF's generated by XeTeX and LuaTeX, font licensing
On 08/17/2010 03:05 PM, Khaled Hosny wrote: Do PDF's generated by XeTeX and LuaTeX "subset the font" in this way? Yes, this is the default. So unless you have manually interfered, the included fonts are always subsetted. I'm interested in the other way around, how can I tell luatex (or context) to not subset the font, \enabledirectives[fonts.embedall] and I read that some recent version of PDF specification allow embedding of unchanged opentype fonts (as compared to converting them to type1 fonts), does luatex support (or plan to support) that feature? In LuaTeX, we are not converting to Type1, OpenType fonts are always embedded as CID Type0C, Truetype as CID TrueType. But some OT tables are stripped for efficiency reasons (GSUB and GPOS, for example). Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF's generated by XeTeX and LuaTeX, font licensing
On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 08:47:58AM +0200, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > On 08/17/2010 08:47 AM, John Magolske wrote: > >Reading through the license of a commercial font I'm interested in, > >I see it stipulated for PDF files created that: > > > > "... a reader or user cannot create new content using one of our > > fonts in a PDF application ... the complete font is not embedded" > > > >And in an email correspondence with the vendor: > > > > "We just ask that you subset the font when exporting the PDFs ..." > > > >Do PDF's generated by XeTeX and LuaTeX "subset the font" in this way? > > Yes, this is the default. So unless you have manually interfered, the > included fonts are always subsetted. I'm interested in the other way around, how can I tell luatex (or context) to not subset the font, and I read that some recent version of PDF specification allow embedding of unchanged opentype fonts (as compared to converting them to type1 fonts), does luatex support (or plan to support) that feature? Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF's generated by XeTeX and LuaTeX, font licensing
于 2010年08月17日 15:30, Giulio Bertellini 写道: What exactly does it mean to subset the fonts, when the fonts are included in a PDF? Just included the used characters, not the whole font file. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF's generated by XeTeX and LuaTeX, font licensing
What exactly does it mean to subset the fonts, when the fonts are included in a PDF? giulio giulio bertellini On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > On 08/17/2010 08:47 AM, John Magolske wrote: > >> Reading through the license of a commercial font I'm interested in, >> I see it stipulated for PDF files created that: >> >> "... a reader or user cannot create new content using one of our >> fonts in a PDF application ... the complete font is not embedded" >> >> And in an email correspondence with the vendor: >> >> "We just ask that you subset the font when exporting the PDFs ..." >> >> Do PDF's generated by XeTeX and LuaTeX "subset the font" in this way? >> > > Yes, this is the default. So unless you have manually interfered, the > included fonts are always subsetted. > > Best wishes, > Taco > > > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to > the Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / > http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] PDF's generated by XeTeX and LuaTeX, font licensing
On 08/17/2010 08:47 AM, John Magolske wrote: Reading through the license of a commercial font I'm interested in, I see it stipulated for PDF files created that: "... a reader or user cannot create new content using one of our fonts in a PDF application ... the complete font is not embedded" And in an email correspondence with the vendor: "We just ask that you subset the font when exporting the PDFs ..." Do PDF's generated by XeTeX and LuaTeX "subset the font" in this way? Yes, this is the default. So unless you have manually interfered, the included fonts are always subsetted. Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] PDF's generated by XeTeX and LuaTeX, font licensing
Reading through the license of a commercial font I'm interested in, I see it stipulated for PDF files created that: "... a reader or user cannot create new content using one of our fonts in a PDF application ... the complete font is not embedded" And in an email correspondence with the vendor: "We just ask that you subset the font when exporting the PDFs ..." Do PDF's generated by XeTeX and LuaTeX "subset the font" in this way? Regards, John -- John Magolske http://B79.net/contact ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino math in MKII/XeTeX?
You'll these few lines: \usetypescript[palatino] \definetypeface[palatino][rm][serif][palatino][default] \definetypeface[palatino][mm][math][palatino][default] \setupbodyfont[palatino,11pt] then modify as suggested by Hans. Works for me with the latest beta of minimals. On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:58 PM, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 16:00, Hans Hagen wrote: >> On 2-8-2010 3:35, Riobard wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> >>> I'm wondering how I can use Palatino for math in MKII/XeTeX? The following >>> works in MKIV but not in MKII (still get Computer Modern for Math, though >>> main text is in Palatino). Thanks very much! >> >> in type-otf.mkii, search for xmath and add the following in that section >> >> \starttypescript [math] [palatino] [name] >> \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [Palatino-Roman-Upright] > ... > > In TeX Live that doesn't work and in minimals it has no influence. > > \usetypescript[palatino] > \setupbodyfont[palatino] > > > kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi > 600 uplri8a.pfb > mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for uplri8a.pfb. > mktexpk: perhaps uplri8a.pfb is missing from the map file. > kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. > > ** WARNING ** Could not locate a virtual/physical font for TFM "rpxpplri". > ** WARNING ** >> This font is mapped to a physical font "uplri8a.pfb". > ** WARNING ** >> Please check if kpathsea library can find this font: > uplri8a.pfb > ** ERROR ** Cannot proceed without .vf or "physical" font for PDF output... > > Mojca > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino math in MKII/XeTeX?
On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 16:00, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 2-8-2010 3:35, Riobard wrote: >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm wondering how I can use Palatino for math in MKII/XeTeX? The following >> works in MKIV but not in MKII (still get Computer Modern for Math, though >> main text is in Palatino). Thanks very much! > > in type-otf.mkii, search for xmath and add the following in that section > > \starttypescript [math] [palatino] [name] > \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [Palatino-Roman-Upright] ... In TeX Live that doesn't work and in minimals it has no influence. \usetypescript[palatino] \setupbodyfont[palatino] kpathsea: Running mktexpk --mfmode / --bdpi 600 --mag 1+0/600 --dpi 600 uplri8a.pfb mktexpk: don't know how to create bitmap font for uplri8a.pfb. mktexpk: perhaps uplri8a.pfb is missing from the map file. kpathsea: Appending font creation commands to missfont.log. ** WARNING ** Could not locate a virtual/physical font for TFM "rpxpplri". ** WARNING ** >> This font is mapped to a physical font "uplri8a.pfb". ** WARNING ** >> Please check if kpathsea library can find this font: uplri8a.pfb ** ERROR ** Cannot proceed without .vf or "physical" font for PDF output... Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino math in MKII/XeTeX?
Sorry, the example is here (forgot to paste it; my bad): \usetypescript[palatino] \definetypeface[palatino][rm][serif][palatino][default] \definetypeface[palatino][mm][math][palatino][default] \setupbodyfont[palatino,11pt] On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Taco Hoekwater wrote: > > > Riobard wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm wondering how I can use Palatino for math in MKII/XeTeX? The >> following works in MKIV but not in MKII (still get Computer Modern >> for Math, though main text is in Palatino). Thanks very much! > > [example missing] > > Best wishes, > Taco > ___ > If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the > Wiki! > > maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context > webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net > archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ > wiki : http://contextgarden.net > ___ > ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino math in MKII/XeTeX?
On 2-8-2010 3:35, Riobard wrote: Hi, I'm wondering how I can use Palatino for math in MKII/XeTeX? The following works in MKIV but not in MKII (still get Computer Modern for Math, though main text is in Palatino). Thanks very much! in type-otf.mkii, search for xmath and add the following in that section \starttypescript [math] [palatino] [name] \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [Palatino-Roman-Upright] \definefontsynonym [MathExtension] [Palatino-Math-Extension] \definefontsynonym [MathItalic][Palatino-Math-Italic] \definefontsynonym [MathSymbol][Palatino-Math-Symbols] \definefontsynonym [MathAlpha] [Palatino-Math-SymbolsA] \definefontsynonym [MathBeta] [Palatino-Math-SymbolsB] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [math] [palatino] [name] \definefontsynonym [OldStyle] [MathItalic] \definefontsynonym [Fraktur] [eufm10] \definefontsynonym [Blackboard] [MathBeta] \definefontsynonym [Gothic] [eufm10] \definefontsynonym [Calligraphic] [eusm10] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [math] [times] [name] \definefontsynonym [MathRoman] [Times-Roman-Upright] \definefontsynonym [MathExtension] [Times-Math-Extension] \definefontsynonym [MathItalic][Times-Math-Italic] \definefontsynonym [MathSymbol][Times-Math-Symbols] \definefontsynonym [MathAlpha] [Times-Math-SymbolsA] \definefontsynonym [MathBeta] [Times-Math-SymbolsB] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [math] [times] [name] \definefontsynonym [OldStyle] [MathItalic] \definefontsynonym [Fraktur] [eufm10] \definefontsynonym [Blackboard] [MathBeta] \definefontsynonym [Gothic] [eufm10] \definefontsynonym [Calligraphic] [eusm10] \stoptypescript - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Palatino math in MKII/XeTeX?
Riobard wrote: > Hi, > > I'm wondering how I can use Palatino for math in MKII/XeTeX? The > following works in MKIV but not in MKII (still get Computer Modern > for Math, though main text is in Palatino). Thanks very much! [example missing] Best wishes, Taco ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Palatino math in MKII/XeTeX?
Hi, I'm wondering how I can use Palatino for math in MKII/XeTeX? The following works in MKIV but not in MKII (still get Computer Modern for Math, though main text is in Palatino). Thanks very much! Rio ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TL 2010 and gentium typescript: weird errors with XeTeX
On 24-6-2010 2:30, Mojca Miklavec wrote: fonts : not found 1b: "msbm10:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" at 9.0pt fonts : found 1c: "[msbm10]:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" at 9.0pt fonts : not found 1a: msbm10:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; at 12.0pt fonts : not found 1b: "msbm10:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" at 12.0pt fonts : found 1c: "[msbm10]:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" at 12.0pt It looks as if only the messages are not printed out in minimals, but they are printed out in TL. But nevertheless the math fonts should not have +liga +kern mapping keywords attached. but even then, it ran ok on my machine with those features attached so something changed in the bins Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TL 2010 and gentium typescript: weird errors with XeTeX
> .. what does > > \settrue\tracexetexfonts > > return? did they change the error recovery code, that is, this > > \suppressfontnotfounderror In TL I get: fonts : no checking 3a: "Zapfino:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" fonts : no checking 3a: "Zapfino:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" fonts : no checking 3a: "Zapfino:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' fonts : not found 1a: lmmi7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; scaled 1000 kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' fonts : not found 1b: "lmmi7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 fonts : found 1c: "[lmmi7]:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi9:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' fonts : not found 1a: lmmi9:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; scaled 1000 kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi9:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' fonts : not found 1b: "lmmi9:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 fonts : found 1c: "[lmmi9]:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi12:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' fonts : not found 1a: lmmi12:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; scaled 1000 kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi12:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' fonts : not found 1b: "lmmi12:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 fonts : found 1c: "[lmmi12]:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmsy7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' fonts : not found 1a: lmsy7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; scaled 1000 kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmsy7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' fonts : not found 1b: "lmsy7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 fonts : found 1c: "[lmsy7]:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmsy9:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' fonts : not found 1a: lmsy9:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; scaled 1000 kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmsy9:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' fonts : not found 1b: "lmsy9:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 fonts : found 1c: "[lmsy9]:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmsy10:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' fonts : not found 1a: lmsy10:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; at 12.0pt kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmsy10:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' fonts : not found 1b: "lmsy10:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" at 12.0pt fonts : found 1c: "[lmsy10]:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" at 12.0pt kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmex10:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' fonts : not found 1a: lmex10:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; at 12.0pt kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmex10:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' fonts : not found 1b: "lmex10:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" at 12.0pt fonts : found 1c: "[lmex10]:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" at 12.0pt kpathsea: Invalid fontname `msam7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' fonts : not found 1a: msam7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; at 7.0pt kpathsea: Invalid fontname `msam7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' fonts : not found 1b: "msam7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" at 7.0pt fonts : found 1c: "[msam7]:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" at 7.0pt In minimals I get: fonts : no checking 3a: "Zapfino:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" fonts : no checking 3a: "Zapfino:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" fonts : no checking 3a: "Zapfino:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" fonts : not found 1a: lmmi7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; scaled 1000 fonts : not found 1b: "lmmi7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 fonts : found 1c: "[lmmi7]:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 fonts : not found 1a: lmmi9:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; scaled 1000 fonts : not found 1b: "lmmi9:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 fonts : found 1c: "[lmmi9]:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 fonts : not found 1a: lmmi12:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; scaled 1000 fonts : not found 1b: "lmmi12:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 fonts : found 1c: "[lmmi12]:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 fonts : not found 1a: lmsy7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; scaled 1000 fonts : not found 1b: "lmsy7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 fonts : found 1c: "[lmsy7]:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 fonts : not found 1a: lmsy9:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; scaled 1000 fonts : not found 1b: "lmsy9:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 fonts : found 1c: "[lmsy9]:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" scaled 1000 fonts : not found 1a: lmsy10:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; at 12.0pt fonts : not found 1b: "lmsy10:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;" at 12.0pt fonts : found 1c: "[lmsy10]:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig
Re: [NTG-context] TL 2010 and gentium typescript: weird errors with XeTeX
On 24-6-2010 9:54, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 09:48, Hans Hagen wrote: also runs ok Yes, in minimals it works fine. Also if I copy the XeTeX binary from TL, it still works OK, it's only TL that is failing. Is it possible that some settings in kpathsea/xetex font searching settings are different? Is it possible to avoid searching for lmmi7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; from within ConTeXt? Makes me wonder where it comes from ... as xetex has this latex friendly but context unfriendly [] system and favors names over files, we need some tricks to check what we're dealing with so we do some tests .. what does \settrue\tracexetexfonts return? did they change the error recovery code, that is, this \suppressfontnotfounderror thing. Anyhow, I stripped some code from font-ini.mkii, move some to font-xtx.mkii and removed de feature default so now you need to explicitly add [features=default] to typescript definitions (I did that in font-otf.mkii from which i also stripped a bunch of lucida type 1 defs which should not be in there anyway). I'll upload a beta to the ftp server for you. As texlive is frozen it won't help much for tl2010 but here are the files that matter: font-ini.mkii font-xtx.mkii type-ini.mkii type-otf.mkii (also fixed some antikwa defs) I really hope that this is the last time i have to look into it. Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TL 2010 and gentium typescript: weird errors with XeTeX
On Thu, Jun 24, 2010 at 09:48, Hans Hagen wrote: > > also runs ok Yes, in minimals it works fine. Also if I copy the XeTeX binary from TL, it still works OK, it's only TL that is failing. Is it possible that some settings in kpathsea/xetex font searching settings are different? Is it possible to avoid searching for lmmi7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig; from within ConTeXt? Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TL 2010 and gentium typescript: weird errors with XeTeX
On 24-6-2010 9:05, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 18:31, Hans Hagen wrote: On 23-6-2010 5:58, Mojca Miklavec wrote: True. But lmmi7 *is* an old tfm font. i don't think that i changed anything at the mkii end so there are two possibilities then (1) the math font definition has changed and refers to features (2) xetex has changed I can test if taking XeTeX from TeX Live into minimals changes anything. btw, It runs ok on my machine, i don't have tl installed (I do have a master copy but have now my system set up for minimals + dev trees) ... i should probably install a tex live in a vm some time soon (no time now). Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TL 2010 and gentium typescript: weird errors with XeTeX
On 24-6-2010 9:05, Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 18:31, Hans Hagen wrote: On 23-6-2010 5:58, Mojca Miklavec wrote: True. But lmmi7 *is* an old tfm font. i don't think that i changed anything at the mkii end so there are two possibilities then (1) the math font definition has changed and refers to features (2) xetex has changed I can test if taking XeTeX from TeX Live into minimals changes anything. how does your tex file looks like (not that i'm too keen into diving into a xetex related font proble right now) This is a minimals file (already sent in the first mail): \usetypescriptfile[type-gentium] \usetypescript[gentium] \setupbodyfont[gentium] \starttext something \stoptext but that one runs quite well over here so there must be more magic going on But if you want a more independent one (any font would generate the same error; without the need to have Gentium installed; just replace file:GenR102 with any other font specification): \starttypescript [serif] [gentium] \definefontsynonym [Gentium-Roman] [file:GenR102] [features=default] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [serif] [gentium] [name] \definefontsynonym [Serif][Gentium-Roman] \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Serif] \definefontsynonym [SerifBold][Serif] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Serif] \definefontsynonym [SerifSlanted] [Serif] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldSlanted] [Serif] \definefontsynonym [SerifCaps][Serif] \definefontsynonym [OldStyle] [Serif] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [gentium] \definetypeface [gentium] [rm] [serif] [gentium] [default] [features=default] \stoptypescript \usetypescript[gentium] \setupbodyfont[gentium] \starttext test \stoptext also runs ok Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TL 2010 and gentium typescript: weird errors with XeTeX
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 18:31, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 23-6-2010 5:58, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > >> True. But lmmi7 *is* an old tfm font. > > i don't think that i changed anything at the mkii end so there are two > possibilities then > > (1) the math font definition has changed and refers to features > (2) xetex has changed I can test if taking XeTeX from TeX Live into minimals changes anything. > how does your tex file looks like (not that i'm too keen into diving into a > xetex related font proble right now) This is a minimals file (already sent in the first mail): \usetypescriptfile[type-gentium] \usetypescript[gentium] \setupbodyfont[gentium] \starttext something \stoptext But if you want a more independent one (any font would generate the same error; without the need to have Gentium installed; just replace file:GenR102 with any other font specification): \starttypescript [serif] [gentium] \definefontsynonym [Gentium-Roman] [file:GenR102] [features=default] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [serif] [gentium] [name] \definefontsynonym [Serif][Gentium-Roman] \definefontsynonym [SerifItalic] [Serif] \definefontsynonym [SerifBold][Serif] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldItalic] [Serif] \definefontsynonym [SerifSlanted] [Serif] \definefontsynonym [SerifBoldSlanted] [Serif] \definefontsynonym [SerifCaps][Serif] \definefontsynonym [OldStyle] [Serif] \stoptypescript \starttypescript [gentium] \definetypeface [gentium] [rm] [serif] [gentium] [default] [features=default] \stoptypescript \usetypescript[gentium] \setupbodyfont[gentium] \starttext test \stoptext Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TL 2010 and gentium typescript: weird errors with XeTeX
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 06:31:39PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 23-6-2010 5:58, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > >True. But lmmi7 *is* an old tfm font. > > i don't think that i changed anything at the mkii end so there are > two possibilities then > > (1) the math font definition has changed and refers to features Very likely, as shown by the error message (there shouldn't be any featured passed to tfm fonts). > (2) xetex has changed > > how does your tex file looks like (not that i'm too keen into diving > into a xetex related font proble right now) -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TL 2010 and gentium typescript: weird errors with XeTeX
On 23-6-2010 5:58, Mojca Miklavec wrote: True. But lmmi7 *is* an old tfm font. i don't think that i changed anything at the mkii end so there are two possibilities then (1) the math font definition has changed and refers to features (2) xetex has changed how does your tex file looks like (not that i'm too keen into diving into a xetex related font proble right now) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TL 2010 and gentium typescript: weird errors with XeTeX
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 17:11, Khaled Hosny wrote: > On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 03:24:09PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: >> On 23-6-2010 1:39, Mojca Miklavec wrote: >> >> >when processing it with >> > texexec --xtx filename >> >> so ... xetex ... you're sure xetex is run? Yes. spec-xet.mkii probably doesn't get included with pdfTeX or LuaTeX. Also: Producer: xdvipdfmx (0.7.3) >> >(/Users/mojca/soft/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/spec-xet.mkii) >> >(/Users/mojca/soft/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/context/third/gentium/type-genti >> >um.tex)kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', >> >contains ':' >> >kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' >> >> i suppose that xetex only feeds the lmmi7 into kpse so this message >> is wierd indeed > > TEXMF fonts (aka file:) should be enclosed in square brackets, and > double quoted, without the quotes XeTeX will consider it an old tfm > font. True. But lmmi7 *is* an old tfm font. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TL 2010 and gentium typescript: weird errors with XeTeX
On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 03:24:09PM +0200, Hans Hagen wrote: > On 23-6-2010 1:39, Mojca Miklavec wrote: > > >when processing it with > > texexec --xtx filename > > so ... xetex ... you're sure xetex is run? > > >(/Users/mojca/soft/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/spec-xet.mkii) > >(/Users/mojca/soft/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/context/third/gentium/type-genti > >um.tex)kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', > >contains ':' > >kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' > > i suppose that xetex only feeds the lmmi7 into kpse so this message > is wierd indeed TEXMF fonts (aka file:) should be enclosed in square brackets, and double quoted, without the quotes XeTeX will consider it an old tfm font. I'm sure ConTeXt is/was doing that already, but may be something broke recently? Hmm, thinking again, I think the math font is actually a tfm font, then anything from : onwards should go, only good old TeX font syntax is allowed here. Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Arabic localiser and member of Arabeyes.org team Free font developer ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] TL 2010 and gentium typescript: weird errors with XeTeX
On 23-6-2010 1:39, Mojca Miklavec wrote: when processing it with texexec --xtx filename so ... xetex ... you're sure xetex is run? (/Users/mojca/soft/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/spec-xet.mkii) (/Users/mojca/soft/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/context/third/gentium/type-genti um.tex)kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' i suppose that xetex only feeds the lmmi7 into kpse so this message is wierd indeed Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | voip: 087 875 68 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] TL 2010 and gentium typescript: weird errors with XeTeX
Dear list, does anyone have any idea why I get the following error with \usetypescriptfile[type-gentium] \usetypescript[gentium] \setupbodyfont[gentium] \starttext something \stoptext when processing it with texexec --xtx filename (/Users/mojca/soft/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/context/base/spec-xet.mkii) (/Users/mojca/soft/texlive/2010/texmf-dist/tex/context/third/gentium/type-genti um.tex)kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi7:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi9:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi9:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' kpathsea: Invalid fontname `lmmi12:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' ... etc ... kpathsea: Invalid fontname `msbm10:+liga;+kern;mapping=tlig;', contains ':' (./latin.tuo) (./latin.tuo) (./latin.tuo) (./latin.tuo) (./latin.tuo) (./latin.tuo) (./latin.tuo) (./latin.tuo) (./latin.tuo) (./latin.tuo) (./latin.tuo) publications: file latin.bbl not found, waiting for bibtex (./latin.tuo) systems : begin file latin at line 4 fonts : resetting map file list fonts : using map file: original-base fonts : using map file: lm-math The typescript doesn't define or touch the math font at all. What is going on here? (Ancient minimals from 2010.06.15 work fine.) Thanks a lot, Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Using XeTeX results in: ! Undefined control sequence. \PDFversion ->1.\the \pdfminorversion
On Sat, Mar 6, 2010 at 18:19, Nicola Vitacolonna wrote: >> Somewhere in my twists and turns to get Mark IV working today, it appears >> XeTeX has been broken. Running `texexec --xtx' on any ConTeXt file results >> in: >> >> ! Undefined control sequence. >> \PDFversion ->1.\the \pdfminorversion > > Hi, wondering whether this has a fix or is an open issue... I have exactly > the same problem with the current ConTeXt Minimals. It seems to be an open issue. Hans was probably busy enough during DANTE meeting, but fixing this should go to the highest priority list once he "recovers" :) :) :) A temporary workaround could be the following: \newcount\pdfminorversion \pdfminorversion=5 \starttext abc \stoptext Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Using XeTeX results in: ! Undefined control sequence. \PDFversion ->1.\the \pdfminorversion
> Somewhere in my twists and turns to get Mark IV working today, it appears > XeTeX has been broken. Running `texexec --xtx' on any ConTeXt file results > in: > > ! Undefined control sequence. > \PDFversion ->1.\the \pdfminorversion > > All I've been able to find out is that these macros are something to do with > PDFTeX. I really don't know where to turn now. > > I'm running: > > XeTeX 3.1415926-2.2-0.9995.2 (Web2C 7.5.6) > TeXExec | version 6.2.1 - 1997-2009 - PRAGMA ADE/POD > MTXrun | current version: 2010.03.02 12:34 Hi, wondering whether this has a fix or is an open issue... I have exactly the same problem with the current ConTeXt Minimals. Nicola ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Using XeTeX results in: ! Undefined control sequence. \PDFversion ->1.\the \pdfminorversion
Somewhere in my twists and turns to get Mark IV working today, it appears XeTeX has been broken. Running `texexec --xtx' on any ConTeXt file results in: ! Undefined control sequence. \PDFversion ->1.\the \pdfminorversion All I've been able to find out is that these macros are something to do with PDFTeX. I really don't know where to turn now. I'm running: XeTeX 3.1415926-2.2-0.9995.2 (Web2C 7.5.6) TeXExec | version 6.2.1 - 1997-2009 - PRAGMA ADE/POD MTXrun | current version: 2010.03.02 12:34 ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Changing typeface for non-body text, using XeTeX -- how?
On Feb 22, 2010, at 4:18 AM, James Fisher wrote:
Hi all,
I'm new to TeX, ConTeXt, and XeTeX.
I'm progressing fine except for in one area: even though I'm told
I'm using the best possible software for easy typeface use in TeX,
I'm finding this area (i.e., fonts) confusing and badly documented.
This is all the more surprising as what I want to do seems entirely
bog-standard: set some basic brand identity by using a body
typeface and heading typeface.
There's the \setupbodyfont command for, obviously, the body font --
but I can't identify any equivalent command like "\setupheadingfont".
I can see other commands for ad hoc use of other fonts, but I want
to stick with as much semantic markup as possible and apply style
elsewhere.
Presumably this is possible! Could someone explain to me how to do
this?
You can define your own styles if needed and use the style=yourstyle
where this key is available:
\definealternativestyle[HeadStyle] [{\definedfont[Seravek-Regular at
16pt]\setupinterlinespace[line=18pt]}]
\setuphead[chapter][style=HeadStyle]
Willi
Best wishes
James Fisher
(p.s. -- I'm coming from HTML+CSS-ish paradigms here, if that would
help someone explain to me how I should reorganise my mind.)
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Re: [NTG-context] Changing typeface for non-body text, using XeTeX -- how?
On 22-2-2010 4:18, James Fisher wrote: Hi all, I'm new to TeX, ConTeXt, and XeTeX. I'm progressing fine except for in one area: even though I'm told I'm using the best possible software for easy typeface use in TeX, I'm finding this area (i.e., fonts) confusing and badly documented. This is all the more surprising as what I want to do seems entirely bog-standard: set some basic brand identity by using a body typeface and heading typeface. There's the \setupbodyfont command for, obviously, the body font -- but I can't identify any equivalent command like "\setupheadingfont". I can see other commands for *ad hoc* use of other fonts, but I want to stick with as much semantic markup as possible and apply style elsewhere. Presumably this is possible! Could someone explain to me how to do this? most structure and layout related commands have a style key, so style=bold style=\tfb etc - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Changing typeface for non-body text, using XeTeX -- how?
Hi all, I'm new to TeX, ConTeXt, and XeTeX. I'm progressing fine except for in one area: even though I'm told I'm using the best possible software for easy typeface use in TeX, I'm finding this area (i.e., fonts) confusing and badly documented. This is all the more surprising as what I want to do seems entirely bog-standard: set some basic brand identity by using a body typeface and heading typeface. There's the \setupbodyfont command for, obviously, the body font -- but I can't identify any equivalent command like "\setupheadingfont". I can see other commands for *ad hoc* use of other fonts, but I want to stick with as much semantic markup as possible and apply style elsewhere. Presumably this is possible! Could someone explain to me how to do this? Best wishes James Fisher (p.s. -- I'm coming from HTML+CSS-ish paradigms here, if that would help someone explain to me how I should reorganise my mind.) ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Minimals and XeTeX
2010/1/11 Vedran Miletić: > Hi, > > I'm a new user of ConTeXt and minimals distribution and first I would > like to say to thank everyone involved in it. Like most LaTeX users, I > found something that was very hard to do in LaTeX to be fairly trivial > in ConTeXt, and gave it a shot. > > Nevertheless, there is an issue with missing files that might be > relevant and worth noting here. When compiling with --xtx, texexec (or > xdvipdfmx) warns about missing dvipdfmx.cfg (that should, according to > TeX Live structure, be in texmf/dvipdfmx/dvipdfmx.cfg), and once you > manually add that, about missing cid-x.map > (texmf/fonts/map/dvipdfmx/cid-x.map). After adding both files, there > are no more complains. > > Can those files be added to minimals distribution? I can add two empty files if that will make people happier. It's a useless warning that makes no difference for ConTeXt. Mojca ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Minimals and XeTeX
Hi, I'm a new user of ConTeXt and minimals distribution and first I would like to say to thank everyone involved in it. Like most LaTeX users, I found something that was very hard to do in LaTeX to be fairly trivial in ConTeXt, and gave it a shot. Nevertheless, there is an issue with missing files that might be relevant and worth noting here. When compiling with --xtx, texexec (or xdvipdfmx) warns about missing dvipdfmx.cfg (that should, according to TeX Live structure, be in texmf/dvipdfmx/dvipdfmx.cfg), and once you manually add that, about missing cid-x.map (texmf/fonts/map/dvipdfmx/cid-x.map). After adding both files, there are no more complains. Can those files be added to minimals distribution? -- Vedran Miletić ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : http://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] utf-8 math and xetex
Aditya Mahajan wrote: Hi, Utf-8 math input that works with pdftex (α, β, etc) does not work with xetex. Is this by design, or a recent bug? Minimal example \enableregime[utf-8] \starttext $α β$ \stoptext i have no plans of adding unicode math support to mkii for xetex , al least not on the short term; if it happens at all the relevant files will be generated by scripts Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] utf-8 math and xetex
Hi, Utf-8 math input that works with pdftex (α, β, etc) does not work with xetex. Is this by design, or a recent bug? Minimal example \enableregime[utf-8] \starttext $α β$ \stoptext Thanks, Aditya___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] \definefontfeature (was: disabling font features with xetex)
Am 12.09.2009 um 14:50 schrieb Hans Hagen:
what happens if you define 'none' to disable liga explicitly
the three argument version of \definefontfeature is more handy but the
definition for mkii makes no sense
\def\dodefinefontfeature[#1][#2][#3]%
{\doifassignmentelse{#2}
{\setevalue{\??fa#1}{#2}}
{\let\!!stringa\empty
\def\mkdodefinefontfeature##1{\edef\!!stringa{\ifx\!!stringa
\empty\else\!!stringa,\fi##1}}%
\processcommalist[#2]\mkdodefinefontfeature
\setevalue{\??fa#1}{\ifx\!!stringa\empty\else\!!stringa,\fi#3}}}
wouldn't be
...
\def\mkdodefinefontfeature##1%
{\edef\!!stringa{\ifx\!!stringa\empty\else\!!stringa,\fi
\executeifdefined{\??fa##1}\empty}}%
...
better?
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] disabling font features with xetex
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 08.09.2009 um 06:56 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
Hi,
Is there a monospaced font which matches with Latin Modern and
contains greek letters?
Computer Modern Unicode Sans Serif
How do I remove font features with xetex? I have the following example,
with cmuntt taken from
ftp://canopus.iacp.dvo.ru/pub/Font/cm_unicode/cm-unicode-0.6.3a-otf.tar.gz
\starttypescript [mono] [cmunicode]
%\setups[font:fallback:mono]
\definefontsynonym [Mono] [file:cmuntt]
[features=none]
\definefontsynonym [MonoItalic] [file:cmuntt]
[features=none]
\definefontsynonym [MonoBold] [file:cmuntt]
[features=none]
\definefontsynonym [MonoBoldItalic] [file:cmuntt]
[features=none]
\stoptypescript
\definetypeface[mainface][rm][serif][modern] [default]
\definetypeface[mainface][ss][sans] [modern] [default]
\definetypeface[mainface][tt][mono][cmunicode] [default]
\definetypeface[mainface][mm][math][modern] [default]
\setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]
\starttext
\type{suffix} \type{αβγ}
\stoptext
With luatex it works fine, but with xetex I get the ffi ligature in
"suffix". Any idea how to get rid of it in xetex?
what happens if you define 'none' to disable liga explicitly
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] disabling font features with xetex (was: Monospaced greek font)
Am 12.09.2009 um 05:31 schrieb Aditya Mahajan: How do I remove font features with xetex? Does \definefontfeature[default][default][liga=no] work? Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] disabling font features with xetex (was: Monospaced greek font)
On Tue, 8 Sep 2009, Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
Am 08.09.2009 um 06:56 schrieb Aditya Mahajan:
Hi,
Is there a monospaced font which matches with Latin Modern and contains
greek letters?
Computer Modern Unicode Sans Serif
How do I remove font features with xetex? I have the following example,
with cmuntt taken from
ftp://canopus.iacp.dvo.ru/pub/Font/cm_unicode/cm-unicode-0.6.3a-otf.tar.gz
\starttypescript [mono] [cmunicode]
%\setups[font:fallback:mono]
\definefontsynonym [Mono] [file:cmuntt]
[features=none]
\definefontsynonym [MonoItalic] [file:cmuntt]
[features=none]
\definefontsynonym [MonoBold] [file:cmuntt]
[features=none]
\definefontsynonym [MonoBoldItalic] [file:cmuntt]
[features=none]
\stoptypescript
\definetypeface[mainface][rm][serif][modern] [default]
\definetypeface[mainface][ss][sans] [modern] [default]
\definetypeface[mainface][tt][mono][cmunicode] [default]
\definetypeface[mainface][mm][math][modern] [default]
\setupbodyfont[mainface,10pt]
\starttext
\type{suffix} \type{αβγ}
\stoptext
With luatex it works fine, but with xetex I get the ffi ligature in
"suffix". Any idea how to get rid of it in xetex?
Thanks,
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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: [XeTeX] List of free Unicode fonts
Am 29.08.2009 um 23:05 schrieb Idris Samawi Hamid ادريس سماوي حامد: Err, can you provide at least a 1-sentence summary in English? The question was if it's possible to install the fonts (Minion, Myriad etc.) in the windows font directory and use them with other programs than Adobe Reader (e.g. MS Office) and the answer from Adobe was: “It's no problem to use the fonts with other programs”. Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: [XeTeX] List of free Unicode fonts
On Sat, 29 Aug 2009 12:40:49 -0600, Wolfgang Schuster
wrote:
Am 29.08.2009 um 20:06 schrieb Derek CORDEIRO:
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Mohamed Bana
wrote:
i had no idea that the free ver. of minion pro came with small caps an
od
st nums.
I don't think its really free. If you download, you will be told so:
*Note:* The Font Pack software contained in this package is being
licensed
to you solely for use with Adobe® Reader® software ("Adobe Reader") and
is
subject to the terms and conditions of the electronic End-User License
Agreement accompanying your version Adobe Reader.
The question wether you can use the fonts with other programs than Adobe
Reader
was asked a few times in different lists and the only useful answer i
found is
the following:
http://www.typeforum.de/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&thold=-1&mode=flat&order=0&sid=259
Err, can you provide at least a 1-sentence summary in English?
:-)
IANAL, but TeX users will mostly be using the font only with Adobe
Reader/Acrobat anyway. So as long as you don't use gs or xpdf :D
[What a nonsensical rule, I doubt it's enforceable]
Best wishes
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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: [XeTeX] List of free Unicode fonts
Am 29.08.2009 um 20:06 schrieb Derek CORDEIRO:
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Mohamed Bana >wrote:
i had no idea that the free ver. of minion pro came with small caps
an od
st nums.
I don't think its really free. If you download, you will be told so:
*Note:* The Font Pack software contained in this package is being
licensed
to you solely for use with Adobe® Reader® software ("Adobe Reader")
and is
subject to the terms and conditions of the electronic End-User License
Agreement accompanying your version Adobe Reader.
The question wether you can use the fonts with other programs than
Adobe Reader
was asked a few times in different lists and the only useful answer i
found is
the following:
http://www.typeforum.de/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&thold=-1&mode=flat&order=0&sid=259
Wolfgang
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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: [XeTeX] List of free Unicode fonts
On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 5:06 PM, Mohamed Bana wrote:
> i had no idea that the free ver. of minion pro came with small caps an od
> st nums.
I don't think its really free. If you download, you will be told so:
*Note:* The Font Pack software contained in this package is being licensed
to you solely for use with Adobe® Reader® software ("Adobe Reader") and is
subject to the terms and conditions of the electronic End-User License
Agreement accompanying your version Adobe Reader.
> thanks for the link.
>
>
> Wolfgang Schuster wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> something interesting from the XeTeX mailing list.
>>
>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> I've noticed that there a lot of decent, free Unicode fonts available,
>>> some of which have interesting OpenType features to play with with
>>> XeTeX. I've put together the following PDF as a general guide and would
>>> like any suggestions or comments from the list. The PDF can be
>>> downloaded from:
>>>
>>> http://www.garzo.co.uk/documents/freefonts.pdf
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Gareth.
>>>
>>> - --
>>> Gareth Hughes
>>>
>>> Department of Eastern Christianity
>>> Oriental Institute
>>> Pusey Lane
>>> Oxford
>>> OX1 2LE
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: [XeTeX] List of free Unicode fonts
i had no idea that the free ver. of minion pro came with small caps an od st nums. thanks for the link. Wolfgang Schuster wrote: Hi all, something interesting from the XeTeX mailing list. Dear all, I've noticed that there a lot of decent, free Unicode fonts available, some of which have interesting OpenType features to play with with XeTeX. I've put together the following PDF as a general guide and would like any suggestions or comments from the list. The PDF can be downloaded from: http://www.garzo.co.uk/documents/freefonts.pdf Thanks, Gareth. - -- Gareth Hughes Department of Eastern Christianity Oriental Institute Pusey Lane Oxford OX1 2LE ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___ ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Fwd: [XeTeX] List of free Unicode fonts
Hi all, something interesting from the XeTeX mailing list. Dear all, I've noticed that there a lot of decent, free Unicode fonts available, some of which have interesting OpenType features to play with with XeTeX. I've put together the following PDF as a general guide and would like any suggestions or comments from the list. The PDF can be downloaded from: http://www.garzo.co.uk/documents/freefonts.pdf Thanks, Gareth. - -- Gareth Hughes Department of Eastern Christianity Oriental Institute Pusey Lane Oxford OX1 2LE ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] An interesting default for recurselevel in xetex
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
I do not think that any change is needed (One shouldn't use
\recurselevel outside a recursion macro anyways). I was just surprised
to find that recurselevel was defaulting to such a weird value in xetex.
also in luatex but that will probably change once we have more direct
access at the lua end
anyhow, here's teh way out
\def\dodofastrecurse
{\ifnum\fastrecursecounter>\lastrecursecounter
\let\recurselevel\!!zerocount
\else
\fastrecursebody
\advance\fastrecursecounter\steprecursecounter
\expandafter\dodofastrecurse
\fi}
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] An interesting default for recurselevel in xetex
On Sun, 23 Aug 2009, Hans Hagen wrote:
Aditya Mahajan wrote:
Hi,
Guess what happens when you run this with xetex
\starttext\recurselevel\stoptext
This is a side effect of the definition of \dofastrecurse. After using
\dofastrecurse, the default value of recurselevel is
\number\fastrecursecounter rather than 0. I don't think that this will have
any side effects.
no, it's just the last value; of course i can set it to zero
recurselevel is also known inside \doloop so there it makes sense to have it
afterrwards (or when using \exitloop in any case)
Both \dorecurse and \doloop leave the value of \recurselevel to its
previous value. \dofastrecurse does not and sets it to the last value.
\starttext
\recurselevel
\dorecurse{6}{Hello }
\recurselevel
\doloop{\ifnum\recurselevel>6\relax \exitloop\else again \fi}
\recurselevel
\dofastrecurse{1}{6}{1}{and again}
\recurselevel
\stoptext
I do not think that any change is needed (One shouldn't use \recurselevel
outside a recursion macro anyways). I was just surprised to find that
recurselevel was defaulting to such a weird value in xetex.
Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] An interesting default for recurselevel in xetex
Aditya Mahajan wrote: Hi, Guess what happens when you run this with xetex \starttext\recurselevel\stoptext This is a side effect of the definition of \dofastrecurse. After using \dofastrecurse, the default value of recurselevel is \number\fastrecursecounter rather than 0. I don't think that this will have any side effects. no, it's just the last value; of course i can set it to zero recurselevel is also known inside \doloop so there it makes sense to have it afterrwards (or when using \exitloop in any case) Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] An interesting default for recurselevel in xetex
Hi, Guess what happens when you run this with xetex \starttext\recurselevel\stoptext This is a side effect of the definition of \dofastrecurse. After using \dofastrecurse, the default value of recurselevel is \number\fastrecursecounter rather than 0. I don't think that this will have any side effects. Aditya ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Commissioned work - we're looking for a ConTeXt person to help us finishing a 200+ pages multi-lingual art book (with Xetex?)
Am 13.06.2009 um 12:41 schrieb Pierre Huyghebaert: Dear list, I'm part of a design group Open Source Publishing, and we use ConTeXt for a few months now. The main goal is to produce a 200+ pages multi-lingual art book for which we have in the past months some exchanges with kind members of the list about font install and Xetex. I currently work more on the design itself. To finish on time, avoid loosing time on some hazardous/random errors, and also learning ConTeXt more "from the inside", we're looking for a person interested to have a commissioned work -for a fair price per day- to help us crossing the last technical problems (some of them still unknown and only potential). It's not easy for us to plan the exact amount of work, but it will certainly be closely linked to : - ConTeXt - Xetex (or another solution to use custom fonts) Also possible in MkIV (LuaTeX) and even simpler with the simplefonts module. - Pictures - Final production of CMYK PDF's for the printer \setupcolors[rgb=no] Wolfgang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Commissioned work - we're looking for a ConTeXt person to help us finishing a 200+ pages multi-lingual art book (with Xetex?)
Dear list, I'm part of a design group Open Source Publishing, and we use ConTeXt for a few months now. The main goal is to produce a 200+ pages multi- lingual art book for which we have in the past months some exchanges with kind members of the list about font install and Xetex. I currently work more on the design itself. To finish on time, avoid loosing time on some hazardous/random errors, and also learning ConTeXt more "from the inside", we're looking for a person interested to have a commissioned work -for a fair price per day- to help us crossing the last technical problems (some of them still unknown and only potential). It's not easy for us to plan the exact amount of work, but it will certainly be closely linked to : - ConTeXt - Xetex (or another solution to use custom fonts) - Pictures - Final production of CMYK PDF's for the printer We work in Brussels but are able to travel to the Netherlands without problems. A first meeting will probably be helpful to go to more details. We'll try to push the project as far as possible this month and in July to be able to print the book in August. If you are, or you know a person interested in, do not hesitate to contact us, Pierre Huyghebaert +32 495 90 56 32 http://www.ospublish.constantvzw.org ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Fwd: [XeTeX] ANN: Custom Stories, Inc. using xelatex now live
On May 26, 2009, at 1:03 PM, Wolfgang Schuster quoted my having written: The typesetting is done using XeLaTeX, and I don't believe would've been as effective using any other tool. That should probably say: The typesetting is done using XeTeX, and I don't believe it would've been as effective using any other tool --- specifically I used xelatex, 'cause I'm not cool and hip enough to know ConTeXt well enough to've been able to develop it in ConTeXt in a reasonable timeframe, even though in many ways that would've made for a cleaner interface to the server. William -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Fwd: [XeTeX] ANN: Custom Stories, Inc. using xelatex now live
Anfang der weitergeleiteten E-Mail: Von: William Adams Datum: 26. Mai 2009 17:38:29 MESZ An: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms Betreff: [XeTeX] ANN: Custom Stories, Inc. using xelatex now live Antwort an: Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms > I hope no one objects to this --- it's more of a public thank you than anything else. We've just taken Custom Stories, Inc., a customized children's storybook site live. The typesetting is done using XeLaTeX, and I don't believe would've been as effective using any other tool. (Unfortunately we couldn't afford to license Linotype's Zapfino for server use, so the letter in _Love Story_ isn't as nice as it could've been IMO). http://www.customstoriesinc.com/ William (who is working on the typesetting for the next story sometime real soon now) -- William Adams senior graphic designer Fry Communications Sphinx of black quartz, judge my vow. ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Two issues related to xetex
Mojca Miklavec wrote:
Hans, does this make sense?
local normalflags = states.get("rsync.flags.normal")
local deleteflags = ""
if (destination:find("texmf$") or destination:find("context$")) and
(not environment.argument("keep")) then
deleteflags = states.get("rsync.flags.delete")
end
command = format("%s %s %s %s'%s' '%s'", bin, normalflags,
deleteflags, url, archives, destination)
ok, i'll change it
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Two issues related to xetex
On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 18:38, Yue Wang wrote:
> Hi, Hans and Mojca:
>
> first, (to Mojca) the first-setup.sh script still deletes fontconfig
> cache when updating on windows.
Hmmm ... while experimenting a bit and after writing a long answer
explaining that I'll come back to it after a while ... I figured out
that I have already implemented a fix, but completely forgot about it.
Hans, does this make sense?
local normalflags = states.get("rsync.flags.normal")
local deleteflags = ""
if (destination:find("texmf$") or destination:find("context$")) and
(not environment.argument("keep")) then
deleteflags = states.get("rsync.flags.delete")
end
command = format("%s %s %s %s'%s' '%s'", bin, normalflags,
deleteflags, url, archives, destination)
This only adds the --delete flag to texmf-context and texmf, others
are not touched. The consequence is that this won't delete your pdftex
binary automatically if you decide that you only need LuaTeX one day,
but I think that it makes sense as a temporary fix since:
- it prevents deleting font cache
- it reduces the need to recreate the formats when nothing has been updated
Mojca
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Re: [NTG-context] Two issues related to xetex
Yue Wang wrote: second, (to Hans) unicode-letters.tex is read when we dump plain TeX or LaTeX format in TeXLive. This file is wrote by Jonathan Kew in order to initialize XeTeX. It defines many important unicode properties into XeTeX. However, ConTeXt do not load that file when dumping the xetex format. The file is not even in ConTeXt distribution. I suggest that the file should be loaded. i don't want dependencies on files outside the context proper; too many bad experiences with that as they always are made for latex and i don'w want to waste time on keeping track of all those things anyway context has enco-utf which is generated from the mkiv character database and that's our reference definition (although not relevant for cjk, context also ships its own pattern, already in utf for quite a while) so, if some definition is missing we should first fix char-def and then regenerate enco-utf using mtxrun --script chars --utf Hans - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
[NTG-context] Two issues related to xetex
Hi, Hans and Mojca: first, (to Mojca) the first-setup.sh script still deletes fontconfig cache when updating on windows. second, (to Hans) unicode-letters.tex is read when we dump plain TeX or LaTeX format in TeXLive. This file is wrote by Jonathan Kew in order to initialize XeTeX. It defines many important unicode properties into XeTeX. However, ConTeXt do not load that file when dumping the xetex format. The file is not even in ConTeXt distribution. I suggest that the file should be loaded. You can find the file in http://scripts.sil.org/svn-public/xetex/TRUNK/texmf/tex/generic/xetex/unicode-letters.tex XeTeX's plain TeX ini file can be find in http://scripts.sil.org/svn-public/xetex/TRUNK/texmf/tex/xetex/config/xetex.ini If the file is not loaded, thousands of lines should be copied to third party modules (like the module I announce on the mailing list today) in order to support some language correctly. This method is quite messy, not to say inefficient for loading. Yue Wang ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
Re: [NTG-context] Why searching fonts in xetex is so slow?
Mojca Miklavec wrote: On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 18:19, Hans Hagen wrote: Yue Wang wrote: maybe just set cont-sys.rme, and enable palatino there, then the palatino loading time can be very short. loaded at runtime anyway so unrelated as mentioned several times before now ... it has nothing to do with the speed of loading a font metric file or parsing typescripts but all with the font cache There was indeed a difference here. Total runtime when loading palatino has decreased from 3 to 1.3 seconds if I made the change. But I cannot tell if during those two additional seconds fc cache has been regenerated. it also depends on how ths OS caches files in mem (if you have enough of it) and the size of the tree (quit esome time is spent on the many real huge fonts that i have on my machine) - Hans Hagen | PRAGMA ADE Ridderstraat 27 | 8061 GH Hasselt | The Netherlands tel: 038 477 53 69 | fax: 038 477 53 74 | www.pragma-ade.com | www.pragma-pod.nl - ___ If your question is of interest to others as well, please add an entry to the Wiki! maillist : ntg-context@ntg.nl / http://www.ntg.nl/mailman/listinfo/ntg-context webpage : http://www.pragma-ade.nl / http://tex.aanhet.net archive : https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextrev/ wiki : http://contextgarden.net ___
