Re: [NTG-context] Presentation effects

[Pablo Rodriguez]

On 7/25/20 3:48 PM, Kumar Appaiah wrote:
> Dear ConTeXt users,
>
> I have been trying to get the presentation effects listed here to
> work:
>
> https://wiki.contextgarden.net/Presentation_effects
>
> But I am unable to build the example. I am using the Debian ConTeXt
> (version 2020.03.10.20200331-1). Please let me know if I am missing
> something.

Hi Kumar,

this sample works with both Acrobat for Linux and Evince (using LMTX
latest):

\setuppapersize[A9,landscape]
\setupinteraction[state=start]
\setupinteractionscreen[option=max]
\setuppagetransitions[random]
\setupbodyfont[50pt]
\starttext
\dorecurse{25}{%
  \startmakeup[page][style=\bf\ss, align=center]
\recurselevel
  \stopmakeup%
  }
\stoptext

Just in case it helps,

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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation sections identified by color and mark

[Hans Hagen]

On 2/3/2018 10:02 PM, jmm...@us.es wrote:

Hi, I'm starting a presentation with ConTeXt.

I'd like to visually differentiate each section, so I've come up with 
two complementary approaches to do that:


* Use a different color palette for each section, and
* Mark the progress bar to indicate the start of each section.

I've done an small example (at the end) but:

* Last Subject of a Topic take color from next Topic. (e.g. "Some greenB")
* I don't like interactionBar styles provided.

I'd like something like:

|-|-|-|--|--
(horizontal line and a vertical line at the begin of each section and a 
vertical line of different color for current position)


other option I like:

##%%@@HHH&&&
(each letter represents a color. It's a bar with colors marking size of 
text. So it's a series of color rectangles with colors for each section 
and a vertical line for current position)


The main problems are:

* How can I pass the first page of each section to MetaPost?


you need to get the logic ok yourself, something like:

\startuseMPgraphic{PageShape}
StartPage ;
numeric n ; n := \number\nofsubpages ;
numeric m ; m := \number\subpageno ;
if (n > 0) and (m > 0) :
pair pa ;
path p ; p := (100pt,100pt) -- (500pt,100pt) ;
draw p
withpen pencircle scaled 5pt
withcolor "BackgroundColor" ;
for i=0,n-1 :
pa := point(1/n) of p ;
draw (pa + (0,10pt)) -- (pa + (0,-10pt))
withpen pencircle scaled 5pt
withcolor "BackgroundColor" ;
endfor ;
draw point (1/m) of p
withpen pencircle scaled 10pt
withcolor "PositionColor" ;
   fi ;
StopPage ;
\stopuseMPgraphic


* How can I protect background color of SomeGreenB to be green and not 
blue?


just look at the definitions you load ...

\definecolor [MyBackgroundColor] [s=.85]
\setupbackgrounds
  [page]
  [background=color,
   backgroundcolor=MyBackgroundColor]




Thanks.

---8< - Start example


\usemodule[present-original]
\usemodule[present-common]

\definecolor [PageColor]   [black]
\definecolor [BackgroundColor] [s=.85]
\definecolor [OrnamentColor]   [r=.75]
\definecolor [PositionColor]   [s=.55]

\defineoverlay
   [PageShape][\useMPgraphic{PageShape}]

\startuseMPgraphic{PageShape}
     StartPage ;
     path p ; pair pa, pb ; numeric len ; color contrastcolor ;
     numeric i;
     numeric sections[];
     % simulated load of sections
     sections[0] := 1;
     sections[1] := 4;
     sections[2] := 6;

     pickup pencircle scaled 5pt ;
     p := (100pt,100pt)--(500pt,100pt);
     draw p withcolor \MPcolor{OrnamentColor} ;
     contrastcolor = \MPcolor{PositionColor} ;
     if (RealPageNumber > 0) and (NOfPages > 0):
     len := 1/NOfPages ;
     i := 0;
     forever :
   exitunless known sections[i];

   pa := point(0+len*sections[i]) of p ;
   draw (pa+(0,10pt))--(pa+(0,-10pt)) withcolor 
\MPcolor{OrnamentColor} ;

   i := i + 1;
     endfor ;
     pa := point (0+len*RealPageNumber) of p ;
     %draw (pa+(0,10pt))--(pa+(0,-10pt)) withcolor contrastcolor ;
     draw pa withpen pencircle scaled 10pt withcolor 
contrastcolor ;

    fi ;
     StopPage ;
\stopuseMPgraphic

\setupbackgrounds
   [text]
   [background={PageShape}]

\starttext

\setupdocument[title={Title},location={Place}]

\startdocument
   \definecolor[BackgroundColor][r=0,g=.7,b=0]
   \startTopic[title={Topic Green}]
     Some text A
     \startSubject[title={Some green 1}]
   more text B
     \stopSubject
     \startSubject[title={Some green 2}]
   more text B
     \stopSubject
   \stopTopic

   \definecolor[BackgroundColor][r=0,g=0,b=0.7]
   \startTopic[title={Topic Blue}]
     Some text C
     \startSubject[title={Some blue}]
   more text D
     \stopSubject
   \stopTopic

   \definecolor[BackgroundColor][r=.7,g=0,b=0]
   \startTopic[title={Topic Red}]
     Some text E
     \startSubject[title={Some Red}]
   more text F
     \stopSubject
   \stopTopic
\stopdocument

\stoptext
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation template

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 04.03.2014 um 16:01 schrieb Fabrice :

> Hi Thangalin,
>> do you mean
>> presentation material to help students?
> Rather lessons (Mathematics) I'll put in pdf format on the platform at my 
> high school.
> Thank you for the links, I'll take the time to look.

You should also take a look at chapter 12 of the metafun manual: 
http://pragma-ade.com/show-man-7.htm

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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation template

[Fabrice]

Hi Thangalin,

do you mean
presentation material to help students?
Rather lessons (Mathematics) I'll put in pdf format on the platform at 
my high school.

Thank you for the links, I'll take the time to look.
Regards,
Fabrice
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation template

[Thangalin]

Hi Fabrice,

I'm not sure what you mean by your "classes" -- do you mean
presentation material to help students?

Here are some links to get you started:

http://tex.stackexchange.com/questions/52841/where-to-find-the-source-code-to-the-context-manuals
https://foundry.supelec.fr/projects/contextman/
http://context.aanhet.net/svn/

If you are just starting out with ConTeXt, take a look at the following:

http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Manuals#First_manuals
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/ConTeXt,_an_excursion
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation Styles: `texexec --pdf --mode=demo s-pre-xx` still valid?

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 03.09.2010 um 11:57 schrieb Paul Menzel:

> Dear ConTeXt folks,
> 
> 
> to test presentation styles the Wiki [1] lists the following command to
> execute.
> 
>   texexec --pdf --mode=demo s-pre-xx
> 
> Unfortunately that does not work on my Debian Sid/unstable system
> (TeXLive 2009). I reported it to the Debian BTS [2].


Try another style, 's-pre-00' is only a environment which defines helper
commands and is used in other styles.

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation from document

[Matija Šuklje]

Dne nedelja 28. februarja 2010 ob 12:34:22 je Hans Hagen napisal(a):
> there is no module for that but it's quite easy to do: just set up lists
> (chapter and section) and typeste a list of chapters/sections

I've yet to do my first presentation in ConTeXt, so I have no idea how to do 
what you just said. But I'll take a look at it :]


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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation from document

[Hans Hagen]

On 27-2-2010 23:10, Matija Šuklje wrote:

Hullo,

I was wondering the other day: since most people make "slides"/presentations
basically by copy-pasting the chapter and subchapter titles into bulleted
lists, would it be possible to make slides in ConTeXt by just loading a module
in the original document and then when the PDF would be generated it would
just take those titles and order them into a neat slide show?

I know this is not how presentations should be made, but just sometimes such
lazy person's slides would be a life saver.


there is no module for that but it's quite easy to do: just set up lists 
(chapter and section) and typeste a list of chapters/sections


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Re: [NTG-context] presentation (simple-slides?) master-like feature?

[Bruce D'Arcus]

On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:40 PM, Aditya Mahajan  wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> very briefly: I'm very very short on time this week, so won't be able to
>> look into this until middle of next week, but I just wanted to let you know
>> that I find your idea great. I had been thinking of adding an xml template
>> for simple presentations. your html-based stuff looks gorgeous, so I would
>> like to know more about it. And let us know what exactly it is that you're
>> missing in simple-slides. In theory, titles are typeset in layers, so
>> everything should be there.
>
> I also like this idea. In fact, it will not be too difficult to map these to
> simple-slides. Basically
>
>      
>        Test Slide Show
>      
>
> should be translated to
>
>     \setupTitle[title="Test Slide Show",author=,date=]
>     \placeTitle

Well, except that I want the option to have this sort of rendering
elsewhere in the presentation. I see you address that in a followup;
would love to see you add that macro.

BTW, I'm an  academic as well, so using this for both teaching and
research presentations (my immediate concern here; have a talk coming
up in a few weeks I'd like to try this on).

> and
>     
>        Hello
>        
>          one
>          two
>        
>      
>
> should be translated to
>
>    \SlideTitle{Hello}
>    \startitemize
>        \item one
>        \item two
>    \stopitemize
>
> we currently do not have any specific environment for blockquote (but Thomas
> and I have discussed adding something similar). The vanilla ConTeXt
> equivalent \startblockquote ... \stopblockquote doesn't do anything fancy.
>
> Finally,
>        
>           Container Ships
>           
>        
>
> should be translated to
>
>    \IncludePicture[horizontal][filename.jpg]{Container Ships}
>
>
> I do not know what is the best way to do these translations. ConTeXt can
> also handle XML files, so it is just a matter of writing the translation
> rules in ConTeXt. Or, if you prefer, you can write an XSLT transformation.

Yeah, using XSLT is pretty straightforward for this.

Bruce
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation (simple-slides?) master-like feature?

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Bruce D'Arcus wrote:


     
       Test Slide Show
     

should be translated to

    \setupTitle[title="Test Slide Show",author=,date=]
    \placeTitle


Well, except that I want the option to have this sort of rendering
elsewhere in the presentation. I see you address that in a followup;
would love to see you add that macro.


This is just a modification of the Interlude macro 
http://randomdeterminism.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/creating-a-style-file-in-context/


\def\Interlude{\dowithpargument\doInterlude}

\def\doInterlude#1%
  {\page
\null
\vfill \vfill
   \startalignment[center]
 \let\\\crlf
 \interludefont
   \setupinterlinespace[big]
  #1
  \endgraf
  \stopalignment
   \vfill \vfill \vfill
   \page}


But this is ad-hoc. To integrate this with all styles, this macro 
should have its own background and the user should be able to configure 
the font, alignment, color, etc using a proper interface. So, that will 
have to wait until Thomas and I have more time (basically, the end of 
semester). However, as a stop-gap measure, the above should work. Just 
translate



     
       Test Slide Show
     


to

\Interlude{Test Slide Show}

Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] presentation (simple-slides?) master-like feature?

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Bruce wrote:


Am looking to be able to (easily) do something vaguely like ...

\SlideTitle{Some Slide}[style=big-title]

.. where 'big-title' gets me the title large and centered
vertically on the page.


I use something similar in my presentations. For example, see pg 3 and 14 
of http://pantheon.yale.edu/~am894/pub/talk/allerton-2009a.pdf


In my styles, I have a macro that takes care of this. I think that adding 
such a macro for all styles might be useful.


Aditya


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Re: [NTG-context] presentation (simple-slides?) master-like feature?

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 28 Oct 2009, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:


Bruce,

very briefly: I'm very very short on time this week, so won't be able to look 
into this until middle of next week, but I just wanted to let you know that I 
find your idea great. I had been thinking of adding an xml template for 
simple presentations. your html-based stuff looks gorgeous, so I would like 
to know more about it. And let us know what exactly it is that you're missing 
in simple-slides. In theory, titles are typeset in layers, so everything 
should be there.


I also like this idea. In fact, it will not be too difficult to map these 
to simple-slides. Basically


  
Test Slide Show
  

should be translated to

 \setupTitle[title="Test Slide Show",author=,date=]
 \placeTitle

and
 
Hello

  one
  two

  

should be translated to

\SlideTitle{Hello}
\startitemize
\item one
\item two
\stopitemize

we currently do not have any specific environment for blockquote (but 
Thomas and I have discussed adding something similar). The vanilla ConTeXt 
equivalent \startblockquote ... \stopblockquote doesn't do anything fancy.


Finally,

   Container Ships
   


should be translated to

\IncludePicture[horizontal][filename.jpg]{Container Ships}


I do not know what is the best way to do these translations. ConTeXt can 
also handle XML files, so it is just a matter of writing the translation 
rules in ConTeXt. Or, if you prefer, you can write an XSLT transformation.


Aditya
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation (simple-slides?) master-like feature?

[Bruce]

Thomas A. Schmitz  uni-bonn.de> writes:

> 
> Bruce,
> 
> very briefly: I'm very very short on time this week, so won't be able  
> to look into this until middle of next week, 

OK; feel free to get back to me as time permits, here or off-list (I 
don't often check this list).

> but I just wanted to let  
> you know that I find your idea great. I had been thinking of adding an  
> xml template for simple presentations. your html-based stuff looks  
> gorgeous, so I would like to know more about it. 

It's just a JQuery-based version of S5, called S6. My fork of it is here:



The background image is just a simple, very small, SVG gradient.

I author in markdown, run the file through pandoc to convert to XHTML 
(though any markdown processor will do), and then pipe it to an XSLT 
that converts it into my (idiosyncratic) S6 XHTML.

> And let us know what  
> exactly it is that you're missing in simple-slides. 

Am looking to be able to (easily) do something vaguely like ...

\SlideTitle{Some Slide}[style=big-title]

.. where 'big-title' gets me the title large and centered 
vertically on the page.

More generally, it's just the idea to be able to adept the 
rendering on a per-page basis with a simple parameter (rather than 
me having to figure out how to write lower-level code). It is 
therefore conceptually analogous to the master slide feature you 
see in apps like Keynote or PowerPoint.

Bruce

> In theory, titles  
> are typeset in layers, so everything should be there.
> 
> All best
> 
> Thomas

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Re: [NTG-context] presentation (simple-slides?) master-like feature?

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

Bruce,

very briefly: I'm very very short on time this week, so won't be able  
to look into this until middle of next week, but I just wanted to let  
you know that I find your idea great. I had been thinking of adding an  
xml template for simple presentations. your html-based stuff looks  
gorgeous, so I would like to know more about it. And let us know what  
exactly it is that you're missing in simple-slides. In theory, titles  
are typeset in layers, so everything should be there.


All best

Thomas

On Oct 28, 2009, at 4:11 PM, Bruce wrote:


I've been gravitating to a presentation system where I author
presentations in markdown, and then convert them to an HTML-based
system that results in examples like this:

http://www.users.muohio.edu/darcusb/s6test/test.html

This allows me to focus on content, but very quickly create
high-quality slides.

So I have a kind of default representation of a slide, but I also have
a couple of CSS classes that I attach (via XSLT) to individual slides
depending on the content. For example, if I have a title without any
other text content, then I attach a "title" class to the slide, which
renders the title larger, and vertical-centered on the page. If
there's a single image, I attach a "imgbig" class, which floats the
image to the background, and enlarges it to fill the slide.

I would like to be able to do the same with PDF using ConTeXt, ideally
using simple-slides. I know some styles have similar parameter options
for things like image placement, but I'm not seeing anything
equivalent for titles. Is this possible to add?

Bruce

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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[Yue Wang]

> Could you please take this discussion somewhere else? This is neither of
> interest for a ConTeXt mailing list, nor is the tone appropriate for this
> list. Thank you.

I don't think this topic is unrelated to ConTeXt (or TeX).
For a long time TeX macro packages has been focused on structured
documents (and it is obviously not WYSIWYG).
If someone can develop a GUI frontend (even a simple one to set
figure/textblock position) for TeX,
it will be as meaningful as what the TeX community is doing now (like
developing TeX engines, formats, source editors, fonts, etc.)
Obviously, all recent GUI frontends (texmacs, texword, etc.) are not
meant to do so, they only help the beginners to structure their
documents, not truly for document design purpose.

As to the tone, i admit it is unappropriate, sorry about that.


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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Apr 30, 2009, at 11:21 AM, Yue Wang wrote:


Please design a few fancy slides in both Powerpoint/Keynote and TeX,
and compare the efforts you should take.
Good exercises to follow are Steve Jobs' WWDC presentations and Al
Gore's An Inconvenient Truth.
After doing so, you can come back and tell us that only twice
re-compilation are needed to design a good presentation.


Could you please take this discussion somewhere else? This is neither  
of interest for a ConTeXt mailing list, nor is the tone appropriate  
for this list. Thank you.


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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[Yue Wang]

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 2:01 PM, Marcin Borkowski
 wrote:
> Dnia Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:21:30AM +0800, Yue Wang napisał(a):
>> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Aditya Mahajan  wrote:
>> > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yue Wang wrote:
>> >
>> >> Hi,
>> >>
>> >> you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/
>> >>
>> >> but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text
>> >> wherever you want in Keynote.
>> >> In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that.
>> >
>> > Sure you can. Use a background layer, and then you can place the text
>> > whereever you want. Not as easy as in Keynote or powerpoint, but it can be
>> > done.
>>
>>
>> achieve the "easiness" I mean.
>> positioning/adjusting graphics/text using a mouse is much easier than
>> do that with keyboard,
>> and one should compile/adjust xs and ys many times in order to get the
>> right result.
>
> Well, using the keyboard and not the mouse is IMHO one of the TeX (and
> LateX, and ConTeXt, and METAPOST, and METAFUN, and tikz) advantages: I
> may have repeatable (and uniform throughout the document) results
> without having to put a (physical) ruler onto my monitor;)...
>
> My experience shows that the best way to prepare a complicated document,
> and especially one containing complicated mathematics/graphics/tables,
> is to:
> 1. think about it
> 2. sketch it on a piece of paper
> 3. think a bit more
> 4. write down the important coordinates etc.
> 5. type into the computer what I have done in part 4.
>
> This way you don't really have to adjust it too many times (maybe twice
> or thrice).



Please design a few fancy slides in both Powerpoint/Keynote and TeX,
and compare the efforts you should take.
Good exercises to follow are Steve Jobs' WWDC presentations and Al
Gore's An Inconvenient Truth.
After doing so, you can come back and tell us that only twice
re-compilation are needed to design a good presentation.

>
>> not to say how to create beautiful 2d/3d charts and tables,
>> make simple drawings,
>
> metafun or tikz
>

there is an old saying in China: 站着说话不腰疼.
(you won't hurt your hip when you stand still while speaking)


>> get fancy templates,
>> apply some advanced features to graphics/texts (like mirror, or
>> believable shade)
>> Well, I know in theory everything above is doable using TeX,
>> but extra amount of work should be done, and the ConTeXt approach
>> (using metafun?) quite unproductive.
>
> As I said: the bulk of the work when preparing a good document is
> *thinking* (and writing the *text*).  Even two or three hours of typing
> don't really make a difference, especially if you get nicer results than
> when using mouse (each picture etc. in slightly different position
> and/or size...)

It is funny to say ConTeXt results will be better... Please try the
grid positioning feature in Keynote or InDesign CS4.
but even the picture are in slightly different position/size, the
viewer wont notice that.

As a contrast, trying again and again for tuning/positioning/compiling
TeX document (and lookup TeX commands on manual) will distract me from
real "thinking"

>
>> So unless someone develop a good GUI frontend for TeX,
>> using TeX for unstructured documents (like presentation slides) is
>> always not a good idea.
>
> This might be debatable, but I would risk a following statement: if you
> consider your presentation slides "unstructured", maybe it's time to
> devote more thinking to it...
>



I admit it is easy to create bulletpoint presentations in ConTeXt
(even easier than Keynote and PowerPoint, \item will do all the
stuffs)
But bear in mind structured presentation handout \neq structured
presentation slides
As far as I know, for most time, the presentation handout should be
structured (point 1, point 2, point3.1, point 3.2 ...) so the speaker
can cover the topic throughly.
However, a structured presentation slide (e.g., bulletpoint) is too
monotonous->dull to put the audience to sleep easily.
Only by careful reorganization of materials can the speaker makes an
awesome presentation.
That's why Steve Job's presentations are all unstructured, but the
audience know clearly what the key points are, and excited->scream
when watching his presentation.
TeX and XML are good for creating structured stuffs (books, journal
papers) where only item point/chapter/float/ref are needed, but
concerning unstructured stuffs like presentation slides, it will be
difficult to do that in just a few \items or \sections.


> But a GUI would be nice in fact, especially for tikz.  I agree that
> in some cases it would be faster to use it than to type everything.
>
> Regards
>
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[R. Bastian]

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009 10:21:30 +0800
Yue Wang  scribit:

> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Aditya Mahajan  wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yue Wang wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/
> >>
> >> but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text
> >> wherever you want in Keynote.
> >> In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that.
> >
> > Sure you can. Use a background layer, and then you can place the text
> > whereever you want. Not as easy as in Keynote or powerpoint, but it can be
> > done.
> 
> 
> achieve the "easiness" I mean.
> positioning/adjusting graphics/text using a mouse is much easier than
> do that with keyboard,

no

> and one should compile/adjust xs and ys many times in order to get the
> right result.
> 

not many, max three times : too low/high, too high/low, and then right ;-)

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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

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Dnia Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 10:21:30AM +0800, Yue Wang napisał(a):
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Aditya Mahajan  wrote:
> > On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yue Wang wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/
> >>
> >> but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text
> >> wherever you want in Keynote.
> >> In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that.
> >
> > Sure you can. Use a background layer, and then you can place the text
> > whereever you want. Not as easy as in Keynote or powerpoint, but it can be
> > done.
> 
> 
> achieve the "easiness" I mean.
> positioning/adjusting graphics/text using a mouse is much easier than
> do that with keyboard,
> and one should compile/adjust xs and ys many times in order to get the
> right result.

Well, using the keyboard and not the mouse is IMHO one of the TeX (and
LateX, and ConTeXt, and METAPOST, and METAFUN, and tikz) advantages: I
may have repeatable (and uniform throughout the document) results
without having to put a (physical) ruler onto my monitor;)...

My experience shows that the best way to prepare a complicated document,
and especially one containing complicated mathematics/graphics/tables,
is to:
1. think about it
2. sketch it on a piece of paper
3. think a bit more
4. write down the important coordinates etc.
5. type into the computer what I have done in part 4.

This way you don't really have to adjust it too many times (maybe twice
or thrice).

> not to say how to create beautiful 2d/3d charts and tables,
> make simple drawings,

metafun or tikz

> get fancy templates,
> apply some advanced features to graphics/texts (like mirror, or
> believable shade)
> Well, I know in theory everything above is doable using TeX,
> but extra amount of work should be done, and the ConTeXt approach
> (using metafun?) quite unproductive.

As I said: the bulk of the work when preparing a good document is
*thinking* (and writing the *text*).  Even two or three hours of typing
don't really make a difference, especially if you get nicer results than
when using mouse (each picture etc. in slightly different position
and/or size...)

> So unless someone develop a good GUI frontend for TeX,
> using TeX for unstructured documents (like presentation slides) is
> always not a good idea.

This might be debatable, but I would risk a following statement: if you
consider your presentation slides "unstructured", maybe it's time to
devote more thinking to it...

But a GUI would be nice in fact, especially for tikz.  I agree that
in some cases it would be faster to use it than to type everything.

Regards

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- It's too far on the keyboard.  It's faster to type ctrl-[.
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[Yue Wang]

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:56 AM, Aditya Mahajan  wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yue Wang wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/
>>
>> but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text
>> wherever you want in Keynote.
>> In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that.
>
> Sure you can. Use a background layer, and then you can place the text
> whereever you want. Not as easy as in Keynote or powerpoint, but it can be
> done.


achieve the "easiness" I mean.
positioning/adjusting graphics/text using a mouse is much easier than
do that with keyboard,
and one should compile/adjust xs and ys many times in order to get the
right result.

not to say how to create beautiful 2d/3d charts and tables,
make simple drawings,
get fancy templates,
apply some advanced features to graphics/texts (like mirror, or
believable shade)
Well, I know in theory everything above is doable using TeX,
but extra amount of work should be done, and the ConTeXt approach
(using metafun?) quite unproductive.

So unless someone develop a good GUI frontend for TeX,
using TeX for unstructured documents (like presentation slides) is
always not a good idea.

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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Wed, 29 Apr 2009, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky wrote:


Let me start with a quote:
"After using ConTeXt for a while, many users begin to think about producing 
their presentations with it, too. ConTeXt is ideally suited for this task. "


In fact, I hate transitions :) And I don't need any animations. I just want 
professionally-looking pdf pages with rich image stuff to assist the speaker, 
and I believe  that Context is well suitable for this.


Where I can get simpleslides? I want to give them a try, and see what can be 
improved.


http://modules.contextgarden.net/simpleslides.

See 
http://dl.contextgarden.net/modules/t-simpleslides/doc/context/third/simple-slides/ 
for documentation and examples.


Any feedback is welcome.

Thomas, can you add a link to the manual on the modules page?

Aditya

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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[luigi scarso]

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 6:44 PM, Yue Wang  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/
>
> but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text
> wherever you want in Keynote.
> In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that.
>

I don't understand your sentence
"In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that."

>From wiki
http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Layers

*Layers* are ConTeXt's mechanism for absolute positioning of elements and
other advanced techniques like switching elements on and off.

Maybe  have I missed the point ?
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[Aditya Mahajan]

On Thu, 30 Apr 2009, Yue Wang wrote:


Hi,

you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/

but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text
wherever you want in Keynote.
In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that.


Sure you can. Use a background layer, and then you can place the text 
whereever you want. Not as easy as in Keynote or powerpoint, but it can be 
done.

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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[Yue Wang]

Hi,

you can find that on http://modules.contextgarden.net/

but anyway, you won't know how easy it is to place figure/text
wherever you want in Keynote.
In ConTeXt, you cannot achieve that.

Yue Wang

On Thu, Apr 30, 2009 at 12:08 AM, Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky
 wrote:
> Let me start with a quote:
> "After using ConTeXt for a while, many users begin to think about producing
> their presentations with it, too. ConTeXt is ideally suited for this task. "
>
> In fact, I hate transitions :) And I don't need any animations. I just want
> professionally-looking pdf pages with rich image stuff to assist the
> speaker, and I believe  that Context is well suitable for this.
>
> Where I can get simpleslides? I want to give them a try, and see what can be
> improved.
>
> I did not find simpleslides on the wiki, but instead found
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Presentations . Is it up-to date?
>
> http://wiki.contextgarden.net/Sample_documents contains good example of
> presentation by Brooks. IMHO, it beats any static PowerPoint presentation.
>
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[Yue Wang]

Hi,

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 7:32 PM, luigi scarso  wrote:
>
> well, at this point why not beamer of latex ?


Umm... You are good at telling jokes:)

why not try slideshow of PLT Scheme?

#lang slideshow

(slide
 #:title "How to Say Hello"
 (t "Hello World!"))


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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 29.04.2009 um 13:32 schrieb luigi scarso:


On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Yue Wang  wrote:


Hi,

you'd better switch to powerpoint or keynote, as they're more  
powerful

(easy to build fancy slides, and better transitions).

Yue Wang


well, at this point why not beamer of latex ?


Jehova :)

Wolfgang

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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[luigi scarso]

On Wed, Apr 29, 2009 at 1:19 PM, Yue Wang  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> you'd better switch to powerpoint or keynote, as they're more powerful
> (easy to build fancy slides, and better transitions).
>
> Yue Wang
>
well, at this point why not beamer of latex ?

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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[Yue Wang]

Hi,

you'd better switch to powerpoint or keynote, as they're more powerful
(easy to build fancy slides, and better transitions).

Yue Wang

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> Hello everybody,
>
> What module can you suggest to create promo presentation?
>
> Best,
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[Wolfgang Schuster]

Am 29.04.2009 um 11:59 schrieb Vyatcheslav Yatskovsky:


Hello everybody,

What module can you suggest to create promo presentation?


There is only one module for presentation, simpleslides (was  
taspresent),

Hans use styles for his presentation which are not modules :)

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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

On Aug 8, 2007, at 12:48 PM, Peter Münster wrote:

> On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:
>
>> thanks for the hint! This has finally motivated me to upload the new
>> version (which had been done for a couple of days); it should be
>> available at the garden.
>
> Hello Thomas,
>
> it would be nice, to have your module in the distribution (cont- 
> ext.zip).
>
> Cheers and thanks for your module, Peter
>
>

Sure, that's fine with me! Who generates cont-ext.zip and who decides  
what goes in there? I think the module is tds compliant, so that  
should be OK!

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On Wed, 8 Aug 2007, Thomas A. Schmitz wrote:

> thanks for the hint! This has finally motivated me to upload the new  
> version (which had been done for a couple of days); it should be  
> available at the garden.

Hello Thomas,

it would be nice, to have your module in the distribution (cont-ext.zip).

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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

Hi Saji,

thanks for the hint! This has finally motivated me to upload the new  
version (which had been done for a couple of days); it should be  
available at the garden. I hope this one has all the files. Have a  
look at the new styles and let me know if they work for you.

Thomas

On Aug 8, 2007, at 9:17 AM, Saji Njarackalazhikam Hameed wrote:

> Thomas,
>
> Thanks for the presentation module. It is great. Just to let you know
> that the following files are missing in the zip file provided at
>
>> downloaded at the garden: http://modules.contextgarden.net/taspresent
>
> 1. demo.tex
> 2. hor.jpg, vert.jpg
>
> saji
> ...
>

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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[Saji Njarackalazhikam Hameed]

Thomas,

Thanks for the presentation module. It is great. Just to let you know
that the following files are missing in the zip file provided at

> downloaded at the garden: http://modules.contextgarden.net/taspresent

1. demo.tex
2. hor.jpg, vert.jpg

saji
...

* Thomas A. Schmitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2007-07-22 14:46:07 +0200]:

> Hi all,
> 
> after some feedback and some more fiddling around, I have now  
> uploaded a first (beta) version of the presentation module. It can be  
> downloaded at the garden: http://modules.contextgarden.net/taspresent
> 
> It has been improved (at least I hope); in particular, it provides  
> more configurability and a couple of new styles. Have a look and let  
> me know if you like it. (And those to whom I have sent the first  
> version: feedback would still be welcome!)
> 
> Best
> 
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[Thomas A. Schmitz]

Olivier,

thanks so much! This helps enormously -- I had a few reports that  
these assignments were troublesome, but couldn't reproduce them on my  
system, so I'm very grateful you provide a solution! (Note to self:  
will have to ask Taco why this works on some systems but not on  
others.) I'll upload a new and (I hope) much improved version this  
weekend!

Best

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On Jul 21, 2007, at 11:10 AM, olivier Turlier wrote:

> Hi Thomas,
> I've played with your presentation module and fond it nice to see.
> In order to have it working on my system, I've "adapted" t- 
> taspresent.tex
> to my system needs (ubuntu + sanjoy's texlive repository = context
> version:2007.04.17) :
> line 169 : commented \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
> line 554 : changed from a = 2*NOfPages-1 ; to numeric a ; a =  
> 2*NOfPages-1 ;
> line 555 : changed from c = PaperHeight/a ; to numeric c; c =
> PaperHeight/a ;
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> HTH. Thanks for providing us both nice model and well commented  
> source.
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation module

[olivier Turlier]

Le Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:35:04 +0200, Thomas A. Schmitz a écrit :

> Hi all,
> 
> I have played around a bit and prepared a module to produce  
> presentations with ConTeXt. It is inspired (of course) by Hans's  
> work, but provides less frills and an easier interface; I hope it is  
> especially suited for academic presentations. Before I actually  
> unleash it on the unsuspecting masses, I would be grateful if  
> somebody could test it. It comes with a demo file and some  
> documentation, so all you have to do is run it through ConTeXt; I  
> want to make sure that it'll work on other installations than mine.  
> If you're interested, drop me a line, and I'll send it to you (it's  
> just a zip file of 233 k).
> 
> All best
 
Hi Thomas,
I've played with your presentation module and fond it nice to see.
In order to have it working on my system, I've "adapted" t-taspresent.tex
to my system needs (ubuntu + sanjoy's texlive repository = context
version:2007.04.17) :
line 169 : commented \usetypescriptfile[type-gyr]
line 554 : changed from a = 2*NOfPages-1 ; to numeric a ; a = 2*NOfPages-1 ;
line 555 : changed from c = PaperHeight/a ; to numeric c; c =
PaperHeight/a ;

HTH. Thanks for providing us both nice model and well commented source.

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Hi Thomas,

I would like to try your module. My mail is [EMAIL PROTECTED]

saji
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> Hi all,
>
> I have played around a bit and prepared a module to produce
> presentations with ConTeXt. It is inspired (of course) by Hans's
> work, but provides less frills and an easier interface; I hope it is
> especially suited for academic presentations. Before I actually
> unleash it on the unsuspecting masses, I would be grateful if
> somebody could test it. It comes with a demo file and some
> documentation, so all you have to do is run it through ConTeXt; I
> want to make sure that it'll work on other installations than mine.
> If you're interested, drop me a line, and I'll send it to you (it's
> just a zip file of 233 k).
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation help

[Adam Duck]

Yes, it turns out, this was somehow my fault.  I had spaces in my
section titles, and somehow this doesn't turn out right.  Anyways,
with this command:

#v+
\def\mycontext#1{
\edef\stringa{\ignorespaces\fetchmark[section][current]}
\edef\stringb{\ignorespaces#1}
\strut\ifx\stringa\stringb
\color[red]{#1}
\else
#1
\fi}
#v-

I get it right even with spaces in them.  But this doesn't work if I
have an exclamation mark in a section title -- I don't say it's a good
idea to have an exclamation mark in the section title, but...  Is
there any way to solve this?

cu, Adam.
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[Adam Duck]

Thanks, all works out nicely.  So, I have another problem.  According
to my friend, every good presentation should highlight the current
section in the table of contents.  So I defined this:

#v+
\def\mycontext#1{%
\edef\stringa{\fetchmark[section][current]}
\edef\stringb{#1}
\strut
\ifx\stringa\stringb
\color[red]{#1}
\else
#1
\fi
}
#v-

This works with

\mycontext{a subject}

and even

\mycontext{\fetchmark[section][current]}

but doesn't work with placelist[section] with this setup:

#v+
\setuplist[section][criterium=all,
symbol=none,
numbercommand=$\bullet$,
textcommand=\mycontext,
pagenumber=no,
width=\baselineskip]
#v-

I think it's because textcommand gets more then just the text as
parameter.  But there is no deeptextcommand in setuplist.

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Adam Duck wrote:
> So, I showed ConTeXt to a friend of mine.  He said he wanted to try it
> and now -- well, you don't want to know how he swears :).  We're
> trying to do a presentation...
>
> Anyways, I'm trying to help him...  But I (we) have some problems:
>
> I managed to write something like this (it's never been so hard to
> write a newline!):
>
> #v+
> \startsetups{myhead}
> \vbox{%
> \getmarking[sectionnumber]\crlf\getmarking[section]\par
> \hskip12pt\getmarking[subsectionnumber]\crlf\getmarking[subsection]}
> \stopsetups
>
> \setupheadertexts[]
> \setupheadertexts[\setups{myhead}][pagenumber]
> #v-
>
> That does, what it should: display section and subsection atop of each
> other.  So, but now, he wants to have an "Introduction", which should
> show up in the header but without a number.  I tried "\subject" but
> "\getmarking[section]" only returns the section, not the subject (I
> thought they were interlinked somehow, but...).  So, is there any way
> to do this apart from "\ifx\getmarking[sectionnumber]{-1}" or so?
>
>   
\startfrontmatter

\section{...}

\stopfrontmatter

will provide a mark but not number; so ... provide extra structure
> Next question: is it possbible to align the text of, well, "text",
> i.e. the body text, vertically centered on every page?
> "\setupbackgrounds" won't work here.  On a side note: why does it have
> an align-parameter, then?
>   
because it inherits from \framed

\setupmakeup[standard][headerstate=start,align=middle]

\startstandardmakeup
\input tufte
\stopstandardmakeup

>
> This one is "a bonus" for me: can someone point me in a direction
> where to start to build a "progress meter"?  beamerstyle has a nice
> template where it shows the section as text and the subsections as
> open dots (all of them) with the current subsection as a filled dot.
>
> Well, that would be all, thanks for listening,
>   
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[andrea valle]

It's probably the problem I had of a strange character inserted before.
Try to open the file with some editor (BBedit, Jedit) and to see if there is a strange character).
If so, then it won't compile. That's ok: it depends on other things. You can refer to the previous mails in the thread.

Best

-a-

On 9 Aug 2005, at 07:27, 정 달영 wrote:

I copied the demoTest file and try to compile it.
And I got a 'undefined control sequence.' message as follows. I confirmed the existence of the file "s-pre-08.tex" in the  ../context/base/ folder.
Any help, please.


system  : contest.top loaded
(./contest.top
specials: loading definition file tpd
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials: loading definition file fdf
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex)
specials: fdf loaded
)
specials: fdf,tpd loaded
) (./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo)
(./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo)
(./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo)
systems : begin file contest at line 5
! Undefined control sequence.
l.7 \TitlePage

? x
No pages of output.


Thanks,

Dalyoung



, 2005. 08. 06, 오전 7:07, andrea valle 작성:

I obtain the same results from this file named demoTest put in the demoTest folder on my desktop, starting form s-pre-p.


% demoTest
\usemodule[pre-08]
%D The demo text.

\starttext

\TitlePage
{Fancy Styles:\\layers}

\StartIdea
\StartSample
\input tufte
\StopSample
\StartText
\input reich
\StopText
\StopIdea

\StartIdea
\StartSample
\input knuth
\StopSample
\StartText
\input reich
\StopText
\StopIdea

\stoptext

% EOF

I'm looking at the console to see what's happening but don't know what to I should check
My s-pre files are in /sw/share/texmf/tex/context/base

I was looking forward to make my presentations... :-(

Thanks!

-a-


On 4 Aug 2005, at 22:32, Matthias Weber wrote:


I have the same setup (TeX installation via Gerben's iinstaller).

You haven't by any chance called the file you are TeXing also s-pre-22.tex?
This would explain it ---

Matthias

On Aug 3, 2005, at 3:36 PM, andrea valle wrote:


Hi,
very interesting. But I'm having troubles. Probably because I'm pretty new to this kind of stuff (I'm using ConTeXt very basically).

I made a demoTest.tex filestarting from s-pre-22.tex.
I copied the demo part of s-pre-22.

Here it is:

%D \module
%D   [  file=s-pre-22,

\usemodule[s-pre-22]
%D The demo text.

\starttext
etc.


Now,  I compiled but I obtained:

! Undefined control sequence.
l.9 \TitlePage
{Indeed}{The Title Page}


What am I missing?

Thanks a lot

-a-




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Hi, Jessica

The context/base has so many modules s-pre-**.tex. At
the end of the module you have the examples are given.
copy the examples in seperate file and add the module
no name from with the example was taken.

\usemodule[pre-**]
and compile the files. iam sure you can select your
flavour. you can also tweat the colors to suit your
requirement.

thanks
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[정 달영]

I copied the demoTest file and try to compile it.
And I got a 'undefined control sequence.' message as follows. I  
confirmed the existence of the file "s-pre-08.tex" in the  ../context/ 
base/ folder.

Any help, please.


system  : contest.top loaded
(./contest.top
specials: loading definition file tpd
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/spec-tpd.tex
specials: loading definition file fdf
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/tex/context/base/spec-fdf.tex)
specials: fdf loaded
)
specials: fdf,tpd loaded
) (./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo)
(./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo) (./ 
contest.tuo)

(./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo) (./contest.tuo)
systems : begin file contest at line 5
! Undefined control sequence.
l.7 \TitlePage

? x
No pages of output.


Thanks,

Dalyoung



 , 2005. 08. 06, 오전 7:07, andrea valle 작성:

I obtain the same results from this file named demoTest put in the  
demoTest folder on my desktop, starting form s-pre-p.



% demoTest
\usemodule[pre-08]
%D The demo text.

\starttext

\TitlePage
  {Fancy Styles:\\layers}

\StartIdea
  \StartSample
\input tufte
  \StopSample
  \StartText
\input reich
  \StopText
\StopIdea

\StartIdea
  \StartSample
\input knuth
  \StopSample
  \StartText
\input reich
  \StopText
\StopIdea

\stoptext

% EOF

I'm looking at the console to see what's happening but don't know  
what to I should check

My s-pre files are in /sw/share/texmf/tex/context/base

I was looking forward to make my presentations... :-(

Thanks!

-a-


On 4 Aug 2005, at 22:32, Matthias Weber wrote:



I have the same setup (TeX installation via Gerben's iinstaller).

You haven't by any chance called the file you are TeXing also s- 
pre-22.tex?

This would explain it ---

Matthias

On Aug 3, 2005, at 3:36 PM, andrea valle wrote:



Hi,
very interesting. But I'm having troubles. Probably because I'm  
pretty new to this kind of stuff (I'm using ConTeXt very basically).


I made a demoTest.tex filestarting from s-pre-22.tex.
I copied the demo part of s-pre-22.

Here it is:

%D \module
%D   [  file=s-pre-22,

\usemodule[s-pre-22]
%D The demo text.

\starttext
etc.


Now,  I compiled but I obtained:

! Undefined control sequence.
l.9 \TitlePage
  {Indeed}{The Title Page}


What am I missing?

Thanks a lot

-a-




On 3 Aug 2005, at 15:31, piskala upendran wrote:



Hi, Jessica

The context/base has so many modules s-pre-**.tex. At
the end of the module you have the examples are given.
copy the examples in seperate file and add the module
no name from with the example was taken.

\usemodule[pre-**]
 and compile the files. iam sure you can select your
flavour. you can also tweat the colors to suit your
requirement.

thanks
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[andrea valle]

First I changed all the tex files and it seemed it changed nothing in 
the output.

But:
Then I discovered that I have two context installations on my machine, 
and that I was modifying the tex files of the the one not used by 
TeXShop.
(The one TeXShop uses is under /usr/..., and I wasn't able to fin it 
through mac finder: finder doesn't list its content. I was modifying 
files lying in the installation of /sw/... folder).

So, everything seems alright.

Thanks a lot to all, now I know about base folder, and about my real 
context engine.


(In any case, I still don't know why I should have two contexts, I only 
installed TeXShop: ?)


Best

-a-


On 7 Aug 2005, at 08:40, Taco Hoekwater wrote:


piskala upendran wrote:

hello valle,
I did test your example. It complained as you said.
however, it works ok under miktex + winedt with the
following changes.
a. remove the small square in front of the
\usemodule[pre-08].
b. \input reich changed to knuth because \citaat of
reich is not decoded. I do not know the reason. Any
contexpert can only tell.otherwise it compiled
smoothly. you can try.


The file was never converted from dutch to english.
\citaat should be \quotation

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[piskala upendran]

hello Taco, 

thanks. Now  i can use reich example also in future.

cheers
upendran


piskala upendran wrote:
> hello valle,
> 
> I did test your example. It complained as you said.
> however, it works ok under miktex + winedt with the
> following changes.
> 
> a. remove the small square in front of the
> \usemodule[pre-08].
> b. \input reich changed to knuth because \citaat of
> reich is not decoded. I do not know the reason. Any
> contexpert can only tell.otherwise it compiled
> smoothly. you can try.

The file was never converted from dutch to english.
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piskala upendran wrote:

hello valle,

I did test your example. It complained as you said.
however, it works ok under miktex + winedt with the
following changes.

a. remove the small square in front of the
\usemodule[pre-08].
b. \input reich changed to knuth because \citaat of
reich is not decoded. I do not know the reason. Any
contexpert can only tell.otherwise it compiled
smoothly. you can try.


The file was never converted from dutch to english.
\citaat should be \quotation

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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[andrea valle]

Thank you all,

Yes, I opened the file with jedit and saw the small square.
Strange, I copied and pasted form the tex file into the new tex file. 
All with TeXShop.

 Now, I have (luckily) the announced problem with fonts.
I'm not on my machine and I cannot try the changes you all proposed.
As soon as I can (monday), I will test all.

Thanks again (it's a great community)


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On 6 Aug 2005, at 15:53, piskala upendran wrote:


hello valle,

I did test your example. It complained as you said.
however, it works ok under miktex + winedt with the
following changes.

a. remove the small square in front of the
\usemodule[pre-08].
b. \input reich changed to knuth because \citaat of
reich is not decoded. I do not know the reason. Any
contexpert can only tell.otherwise it compiled
smoothly. you can try.

regards

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[piskala upendran]

hello valle,

I did test your example. It complained as you said.
however, it works ok under miktex + winedt with the
following changes.

a. remove the small square in front of the
\usemodule[pre-08].
b. \input reich changed to knuth because \citaat of
reich is not decoded. I do not know the reason. Any
contexpert can only tell.otherwise it compiled
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[Matthias Weber]

Hi Andrea,

I think there are now two different issues causing problems here.

i) There is a font problem with s-pre-08, as noted by Mojca and Saji,
but you don't get far enough to run into it.
On Aug 5, 2005, at 5:07 PM, andrea valle wrote:

ii) You are using funny characters in your file. When I copy and paste 
your input into TeXShop,
I get the same error message, which baffled me quite a bit. Then I  
noticed when I remove the blank line
between % demoTest and \TitlePage, the latter will be become colored 
like a comment. This means that
your line end characters aren't the right ones. You can make this 
plainly visible by opening your file
with something like BBedit. There is a funny character in front of 
\TitlePage. You need to get rid of it.



Unfortunately, I have no idea how you managed to get the character in 
the first place. Are you using MacOsRoman as the encoding

(shows in "Save As")?

Try to paste the following into TeXShop (I guess you will then run into 
a font issue later...)


\usemodule[pre-08]

\starttext
\TitlePage
  {Fancy Styles:\\layers}

\StartIdea
  \StartSample
\input tufte
  \StopSample
  \StartText
\input reich
  \StopText
\StopIdea

\StartIdea
  \StartSample
\input knuth
  \StopSample
  \StartText
\input reich
  \StopText
\StopIdea

\stoptext



Matthias


I obtain the same results from this file named demoTest put in the 
demoTest folder on my desktop, starting form s-pre-p.



% demoTest
\usemodule[pre-08]
%D The demo text.

\starttext

\TitlePage
  {Fancy Styles:\\layers}

\StartIdea
  \StartSample
\input tufte
  \StopSample
  \StartText
\input reich
  \StopText
\StopIdea

\StartIdea
  \StartSample
\input knuth
  \StopSample
  \StartText
\input reich
  \StopText
\StopIdea

\stoptext

% EOF

I'm looking at the console to see what's happening but don't know what 
to I should check

My s-pre files are in /sw/share/texmf/tex/context/base

I was looking forward to make my presentations... :-(

Thanks!

-a-


On 4 Aug 2005, at 22:32, Matthias Weber wrote:


I have the same setup (TeX installation via Gerben's iinstaller).

You haven't by any chance called the file you are TeXing also 
s-pre-22.tex?

This would explain it ---

Matthias

On Aug 3, 2005, at 3:36 PM, andrea valle wrote:


Hi,
very interesting. But I'm having troubles. Probably because I'm 
pretty new to this kind of stuff (I'm using ConTeXt very basically).


I made a demoTest.tex filestarting from s-pre-22.tex.
I copied the demo part of s-pre-22.

Here it is:

%D \module
%D   [  file=s-pre-22,

\usemodule[s-pre-22]
%D The demo text.

\starttext
etc.


Now,  I compiled but I obtained:

! Undefined control sequence.
l.9 \TitlePage
  {Indeed}{The Title Page}


What am I missing?

Thanks a lot

-a-




On 3 Aug 2005, at 15:31, piskala upendran wrote:


Hi, Jessica

The context/base has so many modules s-pre-**.tex. At
the end of the module you have the examples are given.
copy the examples in seperate file and add the module
no name from with the example was taken.

\usemodule[pre-**]
 and compile the files. iam sure you can select your
flavour. you can also tweat the colors to suit your
requirement.

thanks
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[Saji N. Hameed]

Hi Andrea,

I would like to add to Mojca's second comment.  A possible way to deal
with the font problem is to use a font that is already in your system.
I tried using the Lucida Bright Font and it worked. First I copied
s-pre-08.tex into my working directory and renamed it to my-pre.tex.
Then I changed the following line

 \setupbodyfont[pos,10pt]


into
\setupbodyfont[lbr,10pt]

and used
\usemodule[my-pre] instead of \usemodule[pre-08] in my source file.

saji

p.s: If you have the time, a great way to learn ConTeXt is to
 go through the source code of the modules and use the ConTeXt manuals
 to understand them...


On Sat, 6 Aug 2005, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


andrea valle wrote:

I obtain the same results from this file named demoTest put in the
demoTest folder on my desktop, starting form s-pre-p.


% demoTest
\usemodule[pre-08]
%D The demo text.

\starttext

\TitlePage
   {Fancy Styles:\\layers}

\StartIdea
   \StartSample
 \input tufte
   \StopSample
   \StartText
 \input reich
   \StopText
\StopIdea

\StartIdea
   \StartSample
 \input knuth
   \StopSample
   \StartText
 \input reich
   \StopText
\StopIdea

\stoptext

% EOF

I'm looking at the console to see what's happening but don't know what
to I should check
My s-pre files are in /sw/share/texmf/tex/context/base

I was looking forward to make my presentations... :-(

Thanks!

-a-


Hi, Andrea,

Just no panic, everything can be solved.

I noticed two problems:

1. remove \input reich (or replace the "reich" it with any other tex
file residing in the tex/context/sample/ directory)
(reich.tex is written in Dutch interface, I don't know if that's
intentionally, but as nobody ever uses it, nobody else noticed that
anyway. Probably either the reich.tex itself or at least the demo
example should be changed in the official distribution.)

2. \setupbodyfont[pos,10pt] in s-pre-08.tex
I think this is already a deprecated way for font selecting now, but
as have more problems than knowledge & benefit about/from fonts,
someone else has to tell you what's the best way to overcome this.

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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[Mojca Miklavec]

andrea valle wrote:
> I obtain the same results from this file named demoTest put in the
> demoTest folder on my desktop, starting form s-pre-p.
> 
> 
> % demoTest
> \usemodule[pre-08]
> %D The demo text.
> 
> \starttext
> 
> \TitlePage
>{Fancy Styles:\\layers}
> 
> \StartIdea
>\StartSample
>  \input tufte
>\StopSample
>\StartText
>  \input reich
>\StopText
> \StopIdea
> 
> \StartIdea
>\StartSample
>  \input knuth
>\StopSample
>\StartText
>  \input reich
>\StopText
> \StopIdea
> 
> \stoptext
> 
> % EOF
> 
> I'm looking at the console to see what's happening but don't know what
> to I should check
> My s-pre files are in /sw/share/texmf/tex/context/base
> 
> I was looking forward to make my presentations... :-(
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -a-

Hi, Andrea,

Just no panic, everything can be solved.

I noticed two problems:

1. remove \input reich (or replace the "reich" it with any other tex
file residing in the tex/context/sample/ directory)
(reich.tex is written in Dutch interface, I don't know if that's
intentionally, but as nobody ever uses it, nobody else noticed that
anyway. Probably either the reich.tex itself or at least the demo
example should be changed in the official distribution.)

2. \setupbodyfont[pos,10pt] in s-pre-08.tex
I think this is already a deprecated way for font selecting now, but
as have more problems than knowledge & benefit about/from fonts,
someone else has to tell you what's the best way to overcome this.

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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[andrea valle]

I obtain the same results from this file named demoTest put in the 
demoTest folder on my desktop, starting form s-pre-p.



% demoTest
\usemodule[pre-08]
%D The demo text.

\starttext

\TitlePage
  {Fancy Styles:\\layers}

\StartIdea
  \StartSample
\input tufte
  \StopSample
  \StartText
\input reich
  \StopText
\StopIdea

\StartIdea
  \StartSample
\input knuth
  \StopSample
  \StartText
\input reich
  \StopText
\StopIdea

\stoptext

% EOF

I'm looking at the console to see what's happening but don't know what 
to I should check

My s-pre files are in /sw/share/texmf/tex/context/base

I was looking forward to make my presentations... :-(

Thanks!

-a-


On 4 Aug 2005, at 22:32, Matthias Weber wrote:


I have the same setup (TeX installation via Gerben's iinstaller).

You haven't by any chance called the file you are TeXing also 
s-pre-22.tex?

This would explain it ---

Matthias

On Aug 3, 2005, at 3:36 PM, andrea valle wrote:


Hi,
very interesting. But I'm having troubles. Probably because I'm 
pretty new to this kind of stuff (I'm using ConTeXt very basically).


I made a demoTest.tex filestarting from s-pre-22.tex.
I copied the demo part of s-pre-22.

Here it is:

%D \module
%D   [  file=s-pre-22,

\usemodule[s-pre-22]
%D The demo text.

\starttext
etc.


Now,  I compiled but I obtained:

! Undefined control sequence.
l.9 \TitlePage
  {Indeed}{The Title Page}


What am I missing?

Thanks a lot

-a-




On 3 Aug 2005, at 15:31, piskala upendran wrote:


Hi, Jessica

The context/base has so many modules s-pre-**.tex. At
the end of the module you have the examples are given.
copy the examples in seperate file and add the module
no name from with the example was taken.

\usemodule[pre-**]
 and compile the files. iam sure you can select your
flavour. you can also tweat the colors to suit your
requirement.

thanks
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[Hans Hagen]

andrea valle wrote:


Thanks a lot (as usual),
It changes nothing: I obtain same results.
So I'm gonna ask something I was going to ask some months ago.

I'm using TeXShop (on OSX 10.3) to create context  files.
It comes with his version of Context (and in fact I have the s-pre- 
files) and I use this "internal" version to typeset the context files. 
But I have to say I don't know exactly how the whole context works 
from Texshop.

Could troubles depend on this non-standard installation?


it should work ok with texshop 

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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[Matthias Weber]

I have the same setup (TeX installation via Gerben's iinstaller).

You haven't by any chance called the file you are TeXing also 
s-pre-22.tex?

This would explain it ---

Matthias

On Aug 3, 2005, at 3:36 PM, andrea valle wrote:


Hi,
very interesting. But I'm having troubles. Probably because I'm pretty 
new to this kind of stuff (I'm using ConTeXt very basically).


I made a demoTest.tex filestarting from s-pre-22.tex.
I copied the demo part of s-pre-22.

Here it is:

%D \module
%D   [  file=s-pre-22,

\usemodule[s-pre-22]
%D The demo text.

\starttext
etc.


Now,  I compiled but I obtained:

! Undefined control sequence.
l.9 \TitlePage
  {Indeed}{The Title Page}


What am I missing?

Thanks a lot

-a-




On 3 Aug 2005, at 15:31, piskala upendran wrote:


Hi, Jessica

The context/base has so many modules s-pre-**.tex. At
the end of the module you have the examples are given.
copy the examples in seperate file and add the module
no name from with the example was taken.

\usemodule[pre-**]
 and compile the files. iam sure you can select your
flavour. you can also tweat the colors to suit your
requirement.

thanks
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[andrea valle]

Thanks a lot (as usual),
It changes nothing: I obtain same results.
So I'm gonna ask something I was going to ask some months ago.

I'm using TeXShop (on OSX 10.3) to create context  files.
It comes with his version of Context (and in fact I have the s-pre- 
files) and I use this "internal" version to typeset the context files. 
But I have to say I don't know exactly how the whole context works from 
Texshop.

Could troubles depend on this non-standard installation?

Best

-a-
On 4 Aug 2005, at 07:28, Mojca Miklavec wrote:


%D \module
%D   [  file=s-pre-22,

\usemodule[s-pre-22]


The files with s-name and t-name are included with \usemodule[name],
so you only have to try
\usemodule[pre-22]
or
\usemodule[pre-cycle]
(see cont-fil.tex for other synonyms)

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Antwort: Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[Jessica Holle]

Hey,

thanks for this information :-)
I will look after these things to build my own presentations.

Greetings Jessica

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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[Mojca Miklavec]

Jessica Holle wrote:

Hi,

I've searching for a dokumentation how to build a presentation, like
in Powerpoint but better :-) with ConTeXt.
I haven't found somethink in the PDF's on the Pragma page and on the
Wiki.



Only the Raw Steps module, which I doesn't understand.
Has somebody information to this theme?


Building a presentation in ConTeXt is not much different than preparing 
an usual ConTeXt document, with some exceptions:


- \usemodule[pre-general] includes some general definitions that you 
probably want to use


- you probably have to use another page dimensions
  \setuppapersize % (already in pre-general)
  [S6][S6]
- you probably want to have full-screen
  \setupinteractionscreen
  [option=max]
- you may want to give some dynamics to the slides
  - growing pictures
- see 13.6/page 514 of metafun-s.pdf
- see animated construction of euro symbol under
  http://contextgarden.net/Sample_documents
  - growing content (3 completely different ways)
- archive.contextgarden.net/message/20040804.222358.500e9264.html
- Patrick's http://levana.de/emacs/elisp/elug/
- David Mungner's RawSteps module (steps, but without JavaScript)
- you may want to have hyperlinks (next page, previous page)
- you probably want lots of pictures
  \externalfigure[name][width=...] (probably surrounded by \placefigure)

- ask Mr. Google for animation or presentation and add
  site:contextgarden.net or site:pragma-ade.com

Just an interesting presentation:
http://www.loria.fr/~roegel/TeX/context-gut2002.pdf (or .tex)

[tex]/tex/context/base/s-pre-*.tex are far the best way to learn a 
couple of things. For a beginner it's a lot new stuff at once (I year 
ago I spent much more time figuring out how to do something than I 
actually spent on the content for the slides), but once you're familiar 
with the basics, these files are pretty clear to undestand.


If you use \usemodule[pre-*], you can build a presentation pretty fast. 
You can change colors or redefine some other things that you see in the 
source of these modules. Later on you can start building your own styles 
or, if you don't need fancy slides at all, all you have to do is to 
define the proper page size, background color, style of section titles, ...


And don't forget about:
- ms-cb.en.pdf
- art-pres.pdf (ignore \presentationstep as it doesn't seem to work)
- cont-eni.pdf
- metafun-s.pdf (or any other metapost material: "learning metapost by 
doing", "metapost manual", ...) if you want to make some fancy graphics 
by yourself.


Have fun preparing your slides,
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[Mojca Miklavec]

> %D \module
> %D   [  file=s-pre-22,
> 
> \usemodule[s-pre-22]

The files with s-name and t-name are included with \usemodule[name],
so you only have to try
\usemodule[pre-22]
or
\usemodule[pre-cycle]
(see cont-fil.tex for other synonyms)

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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[Matthias Weber]

It does work here. Make sure that your file begins like

\usemodule[s-pre-22]

\starttext

\TitlePage{Indeed}{The Title Page}

\StartSummary{Alpha}{Title}
  A simple and not too long text just to show the topic.
  A simple and not too long text just to show the topic.
  A simple and not too long text just to show the topic.
\StopSummary

etc etc

and that it finds s-pre-22.tex . I does so here without problems, and 
I'm sure it should, but if you still get that error message,
copy s-pre-22.tex into the same directory as the sample file, and try 
again. If it works now, you should reinstall ConTeXt at some point
to make sure you have a working installation, if it doesn't, you need 
the help of somebody more knowledgeable...


Matthias



On Aug 3, 2005, at 3:36 PM, andrea valle wrote:


Hi,
very interesting. But I'm having troubles. Probably because I'm pretty 
new to this kind of stuff (I'm using ConTeXt very basically).


I made a demoTest.tex filestarting from s-pre-22.tex.
I copied the demo part of s-pre-22.

Here it is:

%D \module
%D   [  file=s-pre-22,

\usemodule[s-pre-22]
%D The demo text.

\starttext
etc.


Now,  I compiled but I obtained:

! Undefined control sequence.
l.9 \TitlePage
  {Indeed}{The Title Page}


What am I missing?

Thanks a lot

-a-




On 3 Aug 2005, at 15:31, piskala upendran wrote:


Hi, Jessica

The context/base has so many modules s-pre-**.tex. At
the end of the module you have the examples are given.
copy the examples in seperate file and add the module
no name from with the example was taken.

\usemodule[pre-**]
 and compile the files. iam sure you can select your
flavour. you can also tweat the colors to suit your
requirement.

thanks
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[andrea valle]

Hi,
very interesting. But I'm having troubles. Probably because I'm pretty 
new to this kind of stuff (I'm using ConTeXt very basically).


I made a demoTest.tex filestarting from s-pre-22.tex.
I copied the demo part of s-pre-22.

Here it is:

%D \module
%D   [  file=s-pre-22,

\usemodule[s-pre-22]
%D The demo text.

\starttext
etc.


Now,  I compiled but I obtained:

! Undefined control sequence.
l.9 \TitlePage
  {Indeed}{The Title Page}


What am I missing?

Thanks a lot

-a-




On 3 Aug 2005, at 15:31, piskala upendran wrote:


Hi, Jessica

The context/base has so many modules s-pre-**.tex. At
the end of the module you have the examples are given.
copy the examples in seperate file and add the module
no name from with the example was taken.

\usemodule[pre-**]
 and compile the files. iam sure you can select your
flavour. you can also tweat the colors to suit your
requirement.

thanks
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[Brooks Moses]

At 06:25 AM 8/3/2005, Wolfgang Zillig wrote:

Hello Brooks,

nice presentation! With which software do you produce your graphics?


Thanks!

I used TecPlot for those, since our department has a site 
license.  (Unfortunately, it seems to be one of the sorts of software that 
is difficult to purchase as an individual, so I'll have to find something 
else once I graduate.)


For importing the images into ConTeXt, I "printed" them using Acrobat 5.0's 
"print to PDF" driver, and then did some minor cropping before importing them.



Maurice Diamantini schrieb:

Nice "self contained" slides, thanks you for the model;
but the "pdf" link for the slides actualy links to the tex files
(changing the ".tex" suffix to ".pdf" is OK)


Ah, indeed.  That should be corrected now; thanks for telling me.

- Brooks

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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[Matthias Weber]

Hi Jessica et al too,

I can only support what Upendran wrote. A while ago I asked about 
presentation styles on this list,
and got the hints to look at the source of them. You do not even to 
write your own style in the beginning,

you can just overwrite the definitions to change the settings.
I was reluctant to look at source  code at first, but it was
much simpler and more educational I had imagined.

Matthias

On Aug 3, 2005, at 8:31 AM, piskala upendran wrote:


Hi, Jessica

The context/base has so many modules s-pre-**.tex. At
the end of the module you have the examples are given.
copy the examples in seperate file and add the module
no name from with the example was taken.

\usemodule[pre-**]
 and compile the files. iam sure you can select your
flavour. you can also tweat the colors to suit your
requirement.

thanks
upendran

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Re:[NTG-context] Presentation

[piskala upendran]

Hi, Jessica

The context/base has so many modules s-pre-**.tex. At
the end of the module you have the examples are given.
copy the examples in seperate file and add the module
no name from with the example was taken.

\usemodule[pre-**]
 and compile the files. iam sure you can select your
flavour. you can also tweat the colors to suit your
requirement.

thanks
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[Wolfgang Zillig]

Hello Brooks,

nice presentation! With which software do you produce your graphics?

Wolfgang

Maurice Diamantini schrieb:



Le 3 août 05 à 10:02, Brooks Moses a écrit :


One thing that you might find useful as an example, though, is a  
presentation that I recently created in ConTeXt, and then put  online 
(with both the PDF and the ConTeXt source available --  though, 
without the images and the fonts, it's a little hard to  process 
directly).  That's on my webpage here:


  http://dpdx.net/research/papers/ILASS2005_Moses_abstract.html

(See the "Slides: tex" and "pdf" links.)



Nice "self contained" slides, thanks you for the model;
but the "pdf" link for the slides actualy links to the tex files
(changing the ".tex" suffix to ".pdf" is OK)



- Brooks

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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[Maurice Diamantini]

Le 3 août 05 à 10:02, Brooks Moses a écrit :


One thing that you might find useful as an example, though, is a  
presentation that I recently created in ConTeXt, and then put  
online (with both the PDF and the ConTeXt source available --  
though, without the images and the fonts, it's a little hard to  
process directly).  That's on my webpage here:


  http://dpdx.net/research/papers/ILASS2005_Moses_abstract.html

(See the "Slides: tex" and "pdf" links.)



Nice "self contained" slides, thanks you for the model;
but the "pdf" link for the slides actualy links to the tex files
(changing the ".tex" suffix to ".pdf" is OK)



- Brooks

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Antwort: Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[Jessica Holle]

Thanks, this looks good :-)
I try to build my own presentation.

When someone has more detailed dokumentations, please let me know.
I've found only the show-pre.pdf but when there are more dokus let
me know

Greetings Jessica

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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation

[Brooks Moses]

At 12:09 AM 8/3/2005, Jessica Holle wrote:

I've searching for a dokumentation how to build a presentation, like
in Powerpoint but better :-) with ConTeXt.
I haven't found somethink in the PDF's on the Pragma page and on the
Wiki.
Only the Raw Steps module, which I doesn't understand.
Has somebody information to this theme?


There should be quite a bit around; I think you're just not finding 
it.  (Unfortunately, it's rather late here, so I shall leave that to 
someone else)


One thing that you might find useful as an example, though, is a 
presentation that I recently created in ConTeXt, and then put online (with 
both the PDF and the ConTeXt source available -- though, without the images 
and the fonts, it's a little hard to process directly).  That's on my 
webpage here:


  http://dpdx.net/research/papers/ILASS2005_Moses_abstract.html

(See the "Slides: tex" and "pdf" links.)

- Brooks

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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation Styles

[Tobias Wolf]

On 5/19/05, Hans Hagen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> M.guravage wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I recently prepared a presentation using pre-05. The Topics, represented as
> > buttons in a column on the left, are now each preceeded by a number. This
> > was not the case when I last used the style back in January. Interestingly,
> > s-pre-05.tex has not changed since then. This behavior is the same on both
> > the latest ConTeXt alpha and beta releases.
> >
> > I'd appreciate it very much if anyone could shed some light on why these
> > numbers are appearing.
> 
> it runs ok here; i'll send you my core-lst.tex file
> 
> Hans


Could you provide it to all, please? I experience the same.

Tobias
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation Styles

[Hans Hagen]

M.guravage wrote:
Hello,
I recently prepared a presentation using pre-05. The Topics, represented as
buttons in a column on the left, are now each preceeded by a number. This
was not the case when I last used the style back in January. Interestingly,
s-pre-05.tex has not changed since then. This behavior is the same on both
the latest ConTeXt alpha and beta releases.
I'd appreciate it very much if anyone could shed some light on why these
numbers are appearing.
it runs ok here; i'll send you my core-lst.tex file
Hans
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation Styles

[Otared Kavian]

At 16:19 +0200 16/05/05, M.guravage wrote:
Hello,
I recently prepared a presentation using pre-05. The Topics, represented as
buttons in a column on the left, are now each preceeded by a number. This
was not the case when I last used the style back in January. Interestingly,
s-pre-05.tex has not changed since then. This behavior is the same on both
the latest ConTeXt alpha and beta releases.
I'd appreciate it very much if anyone could shed some light on why these
numbers are appearing.
Hello,
I tried your example file (by the way I had to change 
\usemodule[pre-04] into \usemodule[pre-05] according to what you 
wanted).

Indeed something has changed since the page number at which each 
\Topic appears, is repeated before the buttons in the interaction 
menu. I tried your file with other versions of s-pre-05.tex (I mean 
those I had in my archives, one of them being from 2003, another from 
2004): the result is the same...
Something has changed maybe in s-pre-00.tex?
Since I don't know how the page number is called I couldn't locate the bug.
Sorry for this :-(

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Re: [NTG-context] presentation style

[Idris Samawi Hamid]

Hi Fei,
If possible, prepare a minimal file or set of generally compilable files 
(i.e., with just the latest official context distribution) that 
illustrates the problem. If it's too big for the mailing list, feel free 
to send it to me and I'll try (but do not promise success->).

Best
Idris
On Wed, 11 May 2005 23:37:11 -0700, Fei He <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hi there,
I used Skdk_style for a presentation, the style file downloaded from
the contextgarden.net. It was all fine with the TexExec 5.2.3. I just
updated TexExec to 5.2.4 version. However, the active link on the
right side stopped working, i.e. after clicking on the title, it wont
go to the title page which it was linked to. Also the page number now
is explicitly shown on the slides too, as you will see the numbers in
black.  Attached is  just one page from the presentation. Any
suggestions how to have it fixed? Thanks a bunch!!
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation in ConTeXt

[Otared Kavian]

At 22:21 +0900 31/03/05, Dalyoung wrote:
Although it wokred fine, there is some warning message. Did I do 
something wrong?

! pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier 
(name{eq:1.1}) has been already used, duplicate ignored
 fit
Hi,
You didn't do anything wrong: the warning is due to the fact that the 
same equation appears in several steps although its number doesn't 
change.
Some time ago discussions with David Munger resulted in a better 
version of the stepping macros, in particular avoiding the side 
effect you are mentionning.
However the files I sent you were prepared before that... and I 
didn't manage to update the presentation I sent you.
After our discussions, David Munger wrote a nice "third party" module 
named t-rsteps.tex which you can use alternatively.

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Re: [NTG-context] presentation in ConTeXt (XeTeX & MetaPost)

[Adam Lindsay]

Dalyoung said this at Thu, 31 Mar 2005 23:00:20 +0900:

>This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.5.3)
>(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/natural.tcx)
>(pre-main-mpgraph.mp
>! Extra tokens will be flushed.
>
>smMyungjoR
>l.42 defaultfont:=""smMyungjoR
>W30"";
>?
>
>It may be the problem in XeTeX. However, is it related with ConTeXt?

Yeah, I haven't really worked on ConTeXt's MetaFun links at all, and
MetaPost invocations will choke on the XeTeX-y font names with spaces
(and quotes). I'm sorry, but those waters are a bit too deep for me to go
into right now. I hope someone else can take that topic up.

Incidentally, Dalyoung, have you used the new
\XeTeXlinebreaklocale="locale-id" feature? That seems tailor-made for
Korean typesetting. I haven't had a chance to test it yet.

best,
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation in ConTeXt

[Dalyoung]

I added following two lines in conf-pre-main.tex,
\usetypescriptfile[type-xall] %script file
\usetypescript[myface]  %typeface
In type-xall.tex,

\starttypescript[serif][smmjr][uc]
% Regular variant:
 \definefontsynonym[smMyungjoRegular]["smMyungjoR\space 
W30"][encoding=uc]
 \definefontsynonym[smMyungjoBold]["smMyungjoR\space W70"][encoding=uc]
 \definefontsynonym[smMyungjoLight]["smMyungjoR\space W10"][encoding=uc]
 \definefontsynonym[smMyungjoBlack]["smMyungjoR\space W90"][encoding=uc]
\stoptypescript

% Start another typescript that associates generic names with
% mid-level names:
\starttypescript[serif][smmjr][name]
 \definefontsynonym[Serif][smMyungjoRegular]
 \definefontsynonym[SerifBold][smMyungjoBold]
 \definefontsynonym[SerifItalic][smMyungjoLight]
 \definefontsynonym[SerifBoldItalic][smMyungjoBlack]
% The fallbacks
 \definefontsynonym[SerifSlanted][Serif]
 \definefontsynonym[SerifBoldSlanted][SerifBold]
 \definefontsynonym[SerifCaps][Serif]
\stoptypescript
...
Then, I got a following error,
This is MetaPost, Version 0.641 (Web2C 7.5.3)
(/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.local/web2c/natural.tcx)
(pre-main-mpgraph.mp
! Extra tokens will be flushed.

   smMyungjoR
l.42 defaultfont:=""smMyungjoR
   W30"";
?
It may be the problem in XeTeX. However, is it related with ConTeXt?
Thank you.
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation in ConTeXt

[Dalyoung]

Dear Otared,
Thank you for your nice file. I have seen your another "SlideWithSteps" 
file in ConTeXt Wiki whose output is A4 size.
But this one looks much better.

Although it wokred fine, there is some warning message. Did I do 
something wrong?

! pdfTeX warning (ext4): destination with the same identifier 
(name{eq:1.1}) ha
s been already used, duplicate ignored
 fit


   \egroup
\thisisdestination ... \dostartthisislocation {#1}
  \dostopthisislocation 
\fi ...

\dodowritereference ...nceprefix \lastreference }}
  \referentieinfo 
>\lastrefe...

\rawprocesscommaitem ...commalevel \endcsname {#1}
  \expandafter 
\rawprocessco...

\rawprocesscommalist ... \rawprocesscommaitem #1,]
  ,\global \advance 
\commale...
...
l.21 }

I'll test your macros in the XeTeX-ConTeXt to use non roman characters.
Thank you again.
Regards,
Dalyoung
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation styles ?

[VnPenguin]

On Sat, 11 Dec 2004 17:58:04 -0500, Matthias Weber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> They are in your ConTeXt distribution, ready  to use, overload, modify.
> 
> They are called s-pre-01.tex etc and reside in my TeX-tree at
> /usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/
> 
> I hope that was what you asked for?
> 

Thank you, I see them now :)

Regards,

Quy NGUYEN-DAI
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Re: [NTG-context] presentation styles ?

[Matthias Weber]

They are in your ConTeXt distribution, ready  to use, overload, modify.
They are called s-pre-01.tex etc and reside in my TeX-tree at
/usr/local/teTeX/share/texmf.tetex/tex/context/base/
I hope that was what you asked for?
Matthias
On Dec 11, 2004, at 2:32 PM, VnPenguin wrote:
Hi all,
Anyone could tell me if there are ConTeXt src code for styles
presented in http://www.pragma-ade.nl/show-pre.pdf ?
Thanks,
Quy NGUYEN-DAI
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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation s-pre-03

[Hans Hagen]

At 16:59 13/01/2004, you wrote:
At 08:42 13/01/2004, you wrote:
Hi,

I am trying to compile a simple presentation using the s-pre-03 context's 
style whitout success. The .tex and .log file are as attach in this mail. 
Can somebody help me, please?
i'll have a ook at it, strange problem in mp converter
The problem has to do with \zeropoint being mapped to \dimen12 (Plain's 
\z@), and \dimen12 is a scratchdimen in supp-mps, so in your cont-new.tex add:

\newdimen\zeropoint \zeropoint = 0pt
\newdimen\onepoint  \onepoint  = 1pt
Hans  

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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation s-pre-03

[Hans Hagen]

At 08:42 13/01/2004, you wrote:
Hi,

I am trying to compile a simple presentation using the s-pre-03 context's 
style whitout success. The .tex and .log file are as attach in this mail. 
Can somebody help me, please?
i'll have a ook at it, strange problem in mp converter

Hans  

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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation s-pre-03

[Otared Kavian]

Hi,

I am trying to compile a simple presentation using the s-pre-03 
context's style whitout success. The .tex and .log file are as 
attach in this mail. Can somebody help me, please?

Thank you very much.
Hi Eduardo,

I think you should call your file "TEST-3.TEX" instead of "TEST 3.TEX"...
Once I changed the name of your file, I could typeset your file 
without problem (using MacOS X 10.3 and TeXShop, with Gerben Wierda's 
installation of TeX).
Somhow ConTeXt (or TeX in general?) doesn't like spaces in file names.

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Re: [NTG-context] Presentation styles.

[Hans Hagen]

At 18:14 16/08/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Hi,

I can't to generate correctly the presentations that include metapost 
graphics. Could somebody tell me where is the error, please?

I send a zip file with the test file using the pre-02 style.
your log says:

  MP prueba-mpgraph.1] (./prueba.tuo)
  system(mpost  --alias=mpost --undump=metafun prueba-mpgraph)...disabled.
which means that you should enable write18 in your local texmf.cnf file 
(kpsewhich texmf.cnf will tell you where this file resides)

Hans

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