RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-24 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I feel the laws will be updated and the regulatory requirements will change. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of James Rankin Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:53 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-24 Thread Andrew S. Baker
life. Nothing really important, right? ** ** *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Ryan Finnesey *Sent:* Monday, June 24, 2013 4:13 AM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-24 Thread Ryan Finnesey
I see Blue is up on TechNet. I am downloading it now. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Andrew S. Baker Sent: Monday, June 24, 2013 8:23 PM To: ntsysadm Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers The government is already

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-06 Thread J- P
Hmm, and do we really believe its ONLY Verizon :) Jean-Paul Natola Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:29:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers From: don@gmail.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com And today, we bring you this... http

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-06 Thread Sam Cayze
To: ntsysadm Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers And today, we bring you this... http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/us-govt-secretly-collecting-data-millions -verizon-users-013542225.html On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: Does not mean

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-06 Thread Don Ely
-- Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 08:29:14 -0700 Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers From: don@gmail.com To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com And today, we bring you this... http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/us-govt-secretly-collecting-data-millions-verizon-users-013542225.html

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-05 Thread John Matteson
...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jonathan Link Sent: Tuesday, June 04, 2013 9:21 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers If a DA/US Attorney can indict a ham sandwich, getting a search warrant isn't that big a deal

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-05 Thread Richard Stovall
Natola -- From: k...@kj.net.au To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Date: Thu, 6 Jun 2013 00:37:33 + The point I’m making is that you have no idea what: a) Advances in cryptography analysis b

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread rodtrent
The new mantra is “Cloud First”, which means all development has shifted to provide functionality with Azure first, then on-prem after. In less than 2 years, due to Microsoft’s dev shift and due to IT no longer being able to keep up with updates from the accelerated release schedule, a

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Ryan Finnesey
Understandable Sent from my Windows Phone From: Michael B. Smithmailto:mich...@smithcons.com Sent: ‎6/‎3/‎2013 10:49 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Nothing I can say.

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread William Robbins
Oh, like that would ever happen. #FiberSeekingBackhoe - WJR On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:37 AM, Jonathan Link jonathan.l...@gmail.comwrote: Until something breaks so bad, that causes a mass outage... On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:34 AM, rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: The new mantra is “Cloud

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread rodtrent
Microsoft has gone a bit overboard on NDAs. It is good to have MVPs talk about what's coming get some hype going. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Andrew S. Baker Sent: ‎6/‎4/‎2013 9:35 AM To: ntsysadm Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Also, NDAs tend to have a role

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread rodtrent
@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Is cloud the only way to go going to be feasible? Regulatory and other requirements will mean there will still be a lot of on-premise stuff. Or will private cloud gear count as part of the cloud concept

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread James Rankin
, June 4, 2013 9:53 AM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers ** ** Is cloud the only way to go going to be feasible? Regulatory and other requirements will mean there will still be a lot of on-premise stuff. Or will private cloud gear

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Michael B. Smith
] On Behalf Of James Rankin Sent: Tuesday, June 4, 2013 11:07 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Hmmm, sounds like MS' approach is that they've decided that The Cloud is unavoidable, or will at least represent the sensible choice in future

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread James Rankin
: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers ** ** Hmmm, sounds like MS' approach is that they've decided that The Cloud is unavoidable, or will at least represent the sensible choice in future*** * For dev and test environments, sure, and maybe smaller enterprises without

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Andrew S. Baker
: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers ** ** Also, NDAs tend to have a role... *ASB * *http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…* ** ** ** ** On Tue

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Private cloud and Hybrid cloud will be significant parts of the cloud picture. *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:52 AM, James Rankin

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Andrew S. Baker
or PaaS? Sent from my Windows Phone -- From: rodtr...@myitforum.com Sent: 6/4/2013 9:38 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers The new mantra is “Cloud First”, which means all development has shifted to provide

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Andrew S. Baker
: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers ** ** Is cloud the only way to go going to be feasible? Regulatory and other requirements will mean there will still be a lot of on-premise stuff. Or will private cloud gear count as part of the cloud concept? On the MS front, someone sent

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Andrew S. Baker
:37 AM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers ** ** Until something breaks so bad, that causes a mass outage... ** ** On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:34 AM, rodtr...@myitforum.com wrote: The new mantra is “Cloud First”, which means

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread James Rankin
:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *James Rankin *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:53 AM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers ** ** Is cloud the only way to go going to be feasible

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Don Ely
Don't forget the expired cert that recently took out the Azure platform... Maybe have to start migrating to Solaris... :P On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:48 AM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.comwrote: Oh, like that would ever happen. #FiberSeekingBackhoe - WJR On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Andrew S. Baker
*Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2013 9:53 AM *To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers ** ** Is cloud the only way to go going to be feasible? Regulatory and other requirements will mean there will still be a lot of on-premise stuff

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Andrew S. Baker
. Baker *Sent:* Tuesday, June 4, 2013 12:01 PM *To:* ntsysadm *Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers ** ** I would argue that Microsoft is not really driving cloud adoption here, so much as responding to where much of the market has gone. ** ** It will seem like

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Jon Harris
From: k...@kj.net.au To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 00:05:46 + It won’t happen overnight. But my prediction is that eventually the providers will, after grabbing the non-complex mass market, start going after

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Ken Schaefer
hypervisor. Jon From: k...@kj.net.aumailto:k...@kj.net.au To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 00:05:46 + It won't happen overnight. But my prediction

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Jon Harris
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 00:41:35 + I hate to say it but I see a lot of companies regretting the decision to jump to the web when some gov decides it can just issue a warrant and start searching that businesses digital material. What

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Jonathan Link
it's use just handing out an opinion as to this movement with less than critical thinking by SMB's. Jon -- From: k...@kj.net.au To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 00:41:35 + I hate

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Jean-Paul N
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Date: Wed, 5 Jun 2013 01:40:24 + Governments that “don’t play by the rules” aren’t going to be stopped on your company’s doorstop by some lawyers either. Governments like Russia’s can find ways to throw you in jail for decades

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Ken Schaefer
...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Paul N Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013 12:56 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Not sure how this plays into the scheme of things, but I deal with offsite data backup ( for exchange, ad, file servers etc

Re: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers

2013-06-04 Thread Kurt Buff
Helix – apologies for brevity From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jean-Paul N Sent: Wednesday, 5 June 2013 12:56 PM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Microsoft's 'Blue' servers Not sure how this plays