RE: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Crawford, Scott
it also has intel at the bottom. I have that very chip in my drawer. I saved it because it was an Intel/AMD chip, which I found funny. It was only years later that I realized it was a 286. Sent from my Windows Phone From: Ben Scott Sent: 7/16/2013 4:32 PM To:

Re: [NTSysADM] Floppy disk recovery tool

2013-07-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:52 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@live.com wrote: I actually have a copy of Norton Commander which has the DD in it, I think. It requires a supported OS to run though and Windows 8 and 7 don't hack it. Yah, you really want DOS, running on the bare metal, for a recovery

Re: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:12 AM, Crawford, Scott crawfo...@evangel.edu wrote: it also has intel at the bottom. I have that very chip in my drawer. I saved it because it was an Intel/AMD chip, which I found funny. It was only years later that I realized it was a 286. The (C)Intel is a

RE: [NTSysADM] Floppy disk recovery tool

2013-07-17 Thread Maglinger, Paul
Unless you're using a commercial grade burner and disks, at best DVDs have a life of about 25 years (Most of what consumers buy is much less). From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Jon Harris Sent: Tuesday, July 16, 2013 6:50 PM To:

RE: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
You say Intel licensed some intellectual property... I believe AMD licensed the 80286 from Intel as a whole. Certainly there are several levels of design (package, carrier, layout, etc...) but I think lots of folks think of instruction set processing architecture when referring to designing a

RE: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Ken Cornetet
I don't think AMD's 286 was designed by AMD. They built Intel's design. IIRC, IBM had a strict policy that they would use no integrated circuits in their computers that weren't available from at least two sources. Intel allowed AMD to build their 286 chips so that IBM could use them in their

Re: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread William Robbins
I miss Computer Shopper. [image: Inline image 1] - WJR On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:22 AM, Christopher Bodnar christopher_bod...@glic.com wrote: OK, while we are on the nostalgia train. my first PC had an AMD DX40 chip. Bought from ABS out of Computer Shopper. I truly miss the Loft of

RE: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Christopher Bodnar
OK, while we are on the nostalgia train. my first PC had an AMD DX40 chip. Bought from ABS out of Computer Shopper. I truly miss the Loft of Doom and Pepsi Cola. Christopher Bodnar Enterprise Architect I, Corporate Office of Technology:Enterprise Architecture and Engineering Services

RE: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
And the old Byte magazine. -sc From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of William Robbins Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:28 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia I miss Computer Shopper. Inline image

Re: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread William Robbins
Yeah. But you got more mass from CS. :) - WJR On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote: And the old Byte magazine. ** ** -sc ** ** *From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *William

RE: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Steven M. Caesare
Truth. -sc From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of William Robbins Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 9:38 AM To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia Yeah. But you got more mass from CS. :) - WJR On

Re: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Michael Leone
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: Undelete (SALVAGE). Ah, SALVAGE. A wondrous utility. You still don't get built-in undelete of network drives from Windows ...

Re: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Yeah, but my mail carrier hated me for years on account of that monthly mag... :) *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:27 AM, William

RE: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Heaton, Joseph@Wildlife
But it also clearly says Intel 1982 at the bottom of the chip label. Were they working together at the time? Joe Heaton Enterprise Server Support CA Department of Fish and Wildlife 1807 13th Street, Suite 201 Sacramento, CA 95811 Desk: (916) 323-1284 -Original Message- From:

RE: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Ken Cornetet
At that time, IBM had a strict no single-source part policy. Before IBM would use a part in a computer design, there had to be two sources for the part. It was very common in those days for chip manufacturers to cut license deals to allow other people to make their chips since they'd eventually

RE: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread D Rod
Intel could not keep up demand of some of their products and AMD, National Semiconductor and even TI were contracted and licensed to make the 8088/8086, 286 and 386 based chips. Anybody remember the 486 120MHz cips made by TI? Intel only made a 486 66MHz chip. Daniel Rodriguez On Jul 17, 2013

RE: [NTSysADM] RE: Network Closet and Server Room Monitoring

2013-07-17 Thread J- P
We have been looking at http://www.avtech.com/Products/ Jean-Paul Natola From: mille...@mukilteo.wednet.edu To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Date: Tue, 16 Jul 2013 11:19:58 -0700 Subject: [NTSysADM] RE: Network Closet and Server Room Monitoring We have their

RE: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread David Lum
The weight of e-mail I receive is amazing! I had to delete a much of SPAM from my laptop to lighten it enough for me to pick it up. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Ken Cornetet Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:08 AM To:

RE: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Ken Cornetet
I don't know about that. I'd say the weight of a month's worth of my junk mail easily exceeds what a computer shopper used to weigh. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of William Robbins Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 10:59 AM To:

[NTSysADM] Exposure from VPN

2013-07-17 Thread J- P
Hi all, We have an employee who works part time for 2 organizations which are located in the same building, now we are moving and they want her to VPN in from our network to theirs, using traditional MS pptp- I'm not entirely comfortable with that idea , can someone suggest a more secure

[NTSysADM] SSL/TLS question

2013-07-17 Thread Christopher Bodnar
I'd really appreciate any help clarifying this topic for me. I know I should know this stuff, but I've never really had to deal with it much before besides installing a certificate on an IIS server. I've always seen them lumped together as SSL/TLS. OK so basically TLS is the next version

RE: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Senter, John
If we are going to talk about Novell, let's not forget Banyan Vines. Expensive yet had directory services that far exceed Window NT. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of David Lum Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 11:37 AM To:

RE: [NTSysADM] Exposure from VPN

2013-07-17 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Pptp absolutely not. It is totally broken and insecure. MS has a KB somewhere saying stop using it. We use remote desktop via Microsoft's Remote Desktop Gateway. Very easy to setup and use and gives the user a desktop that is located in the remote domain..so all the settings..mapped

[NTSysADM] RE: WorkPlace Join?

2013-07-17 Thread Brian Desmond
On the surface at least, it’s per user profile. I haven’t played with it on the iPad to see what options you have there. Thanks, Brian Desmond br...@briandesmond.commailto:br...@briandesmond.com w – 312.625.1438 | c – 312.731.3132 From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com

RE: [NTSysADM] Exposure from VPN

2013-07-17 Thread J- P
This would still expose our lan would it not? she remotes in, her local drives show up including her network drives (our lan shares), where's the security on our side? I get than they can secure their network using rdgateway, but what protects me as I am not the gateway hoster/provider?

RE: [NTSysADM] Exposure from VPN

2013-07-17 Thread Kennedy, Jim
Ahhh, I see. Don't think you can limit your exposure in that scenario other than having her use a machine not in the domain...and on it's own vlan or internet connection. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of J- P Sent: Wednesday, July 17,

RE: [NTSysADM] Exposure from VPN

2013-07-17 Thread J- P
not sure, But I will not be in control of the gateway policy if I understand correctly, it will be the remote domain /gateway host that would configure that. Jean-Paul Natola From: bill.m...@pittcountync.gov To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com Subject: RE:

RE: [NTSysADM] Exposure from VPN

2013-07-17 Thread Kennedy, Jim
It is actually part of the rdp connection file she will download and use to connect. But nothing stops the user from changing it. What security concerns do you have? From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of J- P Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013

Re: [NTSysADM] Exposure from VPN

2013-07-17 Thread Richard Stovall
You can disable device redirection on the RD Gateway server. On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Kennedy, Jim kennedy...@elyriaschools.org wrote: It is actually part of the rdp connection file she will download and use to connect. But nothing stops the user from changing it. What security

Re: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Same here. The vast majority of my Amazon Prime stuff comes via UPS, with a smaller percentage via FedEx. *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations Information Security) for the SMB market…*** On Wed, Jul 17, 2013

Re: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: The (C)Intel is a copyright notice. It was designed and made by AMD, but AMD licensed some Intel intellectual property for it. :) You say Intel licensed some intellectual property... I believe AMD licensed the

Re: [NTSysADM] Exposure from VPN

2013-07-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
Give her a stand-alone system in your facility that she can use to access the other network. Prevent this machine from accessing anything on your network. Risk minimized. *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker* http://xeeme.com/AndrewBaker* **Providing Virtual CIO Services (IT Operations

Re: [NTSysADM] Exposure from VPN

2013-07-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
*Pptp absolutely not. It is totally broken and insecure. MS has a KB somewhere saying stop using it.* There are many outside of Microsoft who feel that way (and possibly some inside of it), but I have yet to see a KB article that says so. *ASB **http://XeeMe.com/AndrewBaker*

Re: [NTSysADM] SOX and SEIM

2013-07-17 Thread Kevin Lundy
Agreed to a certain extent. We have not had good success with consultants in the policy and procedure areas. They all seem to write as if they are getting paid by the word/page, or by a measure of complexity. So what I am outlining at the moment is: All production financial systems will be

RE: [NTSysADM] Exposure from VPN

2013-07-17 Thread Kennedy, Jim
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/security/advisory/2743314 Got to kind of read between the lines.the suggested solutions are using something other than PPTP. From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Andrew S. Baker Sent: Wednesday, July

Re: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread William Robbins
OK, could be. My memory gets kind of fuzzy going that far back. :) What were you 5? ;) - WJR On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Ben Scott mailvor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com wrote: The (C)Intel is a copyright notice.

Re: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Ben Scott
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 1:29 PM, William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com wrote: OK, could be. My memory gets kind of fuzzy going that far back. :) What were you 5? ;) Yah, well, how many memories do *you* have from when you were 5? ;-) -- Ben

Re: [NTSysADM] Exposure from VPN

2013-07-17 Thread Andrew S. Baker
T hat's a whole lot of reading between the lines. *Note* Microsoft recommends that customers assess the impact of making configuration changes to their environment. Implementing PEAP-MS-CHAP v2 Authentication for Microsoft VPNs may require less change to configuration and have a lesser impact to

RE: [NTSysADM] Nostalgia

2013-07-17 Thread Free, Bob
let's not forget Banyan Vines Indeed Some of us who worked on the real NOS back in the day (or heaven forbid, both) were prone to calling Novell the Red Virus :) From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Senter, John Sent: Wednesday, July 17,

RE: [NTSysADM] SSL/TLS question

2013-07-17 Thread Ken Schaefer
Yes. At the very early step of the handshake, the client and server send each other the ciphers etc. that they support: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/257591 Cheers Ken From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Christopher Bodnar Sent: Thursday,