[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 1:19 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
My whatev was a sarcastic reply to someone I have known online for
years. Like I said, I'm not repeating myself
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On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Monday, August 5, 2013 8:35 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
I guess you either see my specific point or you don't. I stated it, and
I'm
, 2013 1:19 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
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My whatev was a sarcastic reply to someone I have known online for
years. Like I said, I'm not repeating myself. You see the point, or you
dont. Some people do (as reflected
: why do so?
-sc
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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 2:58 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
My point was to what data was remotely
, August 5, 2013 8:35 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
I guess you either see my specific point or you don't. I stated it,
and I'm
not one to engage in arguments were I just repeat myself because people
are
choosing to ignore
I figured poor timing was your regular duty.
-lc
From: William Robbins dangerw...@gmail.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Sent: Tuesday, August 6, 2013 2:18 PM
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
Apparently my attempt at humor
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IMO, its a matter of recreational gambling vs. professional (done for a
living) gambling[1]. You know the odds, or you don't - doesn't matter.
What matters is if you can continue to profit from the risk. Will the
risk
Yeah, but what are the odds of THAT??!
Oh.. wait...
-sc
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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Maglinger, Paul
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 11:36 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
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listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Micheal Espinola Jr
*Sent:* Friday, August 2, 2013 11:40 AM
*To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
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Again, apples/oranges. I'm speaking of specific circumstance, and I'm not
about
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
I notice there's been no mention of the coming zombie apocalypse.
- WJR
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 1:23 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
wrote:
Substitute any risk you what in any circumstance you
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listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *William Robbins
*Sent:* Friday, August 2, 2013 2:27 PM
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I notice there's been no mention of the coming zombie apocalypse
: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of Steven M. Caesare
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 2:32 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
Well given that it's occurrence is a 100% certainty, I didn't think
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Well given that it’s occurrence is a 100% certainty, I didn’t think that
it really was fair to consider there being “odds” of it’s happening…
-sc
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listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Micheal Espinola Jr
*Sent:* Friday, August 2, 2013 11:40 AM
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Again, apples/oranges. I'm speaking of specific circumstance, and I'm
I’m not sure that a ZitM attack is one that is going to involve computer
security.
From: Steven M. Caesare
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 1:31 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
Well given that it’s occurrence is a 100% certainty, I didn’t
-sc
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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 3:00 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
You're continuing to generalize, ignoring the specifics I
nice
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Behalf Of Daniel Chenault
Sent: Friday, August 2, 2013 2:15 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
I’m not sure that a ZitM attack is one that is going to involve
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.comwrote:
That’s what we’ve been telling you. J
Whatev.
--
Espi
What were the odds of THAT reply?!?
-sc
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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 4:03 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
On Fri, Aug 2
:* Friday, August 02, 2013 4:03 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
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On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 12:27 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
wrote:
That’s what we’ve been telling you. J
Whatev.
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Espi
: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
For you? 100%
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Espi
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
wrote:
What were the odds of THAT reply?!?
-sc
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[mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola
...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Micheal Espinola Jr
*Sent:* Friday, August 02, 2013 6:37 PM
*To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
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For you? 100%
--
Espi
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On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes
...@lists.myitforum.com] On Behalf Of William Robbins
Sent: Friday, August 02, 2013 7:21 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
A soothing balm?
- WJR
On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
wrote:
Hold, on... I'm
*To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
*Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
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A soothing balm?
- WJR
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On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
wrote:
Hold, on… I’m trying to figure out what it’ll take to mitigate
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listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Micheal Espinola Jr
*Sent:* Friday, August 02, 2013 6:37 PM
*To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
*Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
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For you? 100%
--
Espi
:37 PM
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*Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
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For you? 100%
--
Espi
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On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 2:58 PM, Steven M. Caesare scaes...@caesare.com
wrote:
What were the odds of THAT reply
No they seem to be starting with cell phones.
http://qz.com/36/zombie-phones-are-eating-up-your-telecomm-budget/
Jon
From: dani...@hotmail.com
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2013 14:14:30 -0500
I’m not sure
2013 9:55 AM
*To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
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IMO, its a matter of recreational gambling vs. professional (done for a
living) gambling[1]. You know the odds, or you don't - doesn't matter.
What matters is if you can continue
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
Nothing is absolute, black and white, yadda yadda yadda - I'm not speaking to
every aspect of life or daily routine; I'm referring to the OP issue of remote
access and what information is accessible remotely. I also think
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listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Micheal Espinola Jr
*Sent:* Thursday, 1 August 2013 9:55 AM
*To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
*Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
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IMO, its a matter of recreational gambling vs
to give them *something*.
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of Ken Schaefer
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 4:06 PM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: RE: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
In any event, the odds are irrelevant
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*From:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Andrew S. Baker
*Sent:* Thursday, August 01, 2013 6:43 AM
*To:* ntsysadm
*Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
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I think you missed Ken's point, Micheal
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On Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Thursday, 1 August 2013 9:55 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.commailto:ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
IMO, its a matter of recreational gambling vs. professional
I need to present management with the odds of this actually getting exploited,
as I'd want to force TLS 1.2 for ADFS but that takes Chrome and more
importantly Safari (iOS devices) out of the mix, so I suspect management might
say we want compatibility instead of protection from some obscure
their browser of choice? Is it management’s intent to hold corporate
network security hostage to this small group of users?
From: David Lum
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 10:07 AM
To: NTSysADM@lists.myITforum.com
Subject: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
I need to present management with the odds
Chenault
Sent: Wednesday, July 31, 2013 11:25 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
1. It doesn’t matter what the odds are. When it happens the odds go to 100%
making all the previous discussion moot.
2. Chrome and Safari have alternatives so what
Odds would be very difficult to extrapolate with any legitimate accuracy,
as you need to know and control the possible environments and habits of
your remote employees. In any event, the odds are irrelevant - the issue
is the business risk of intrusion/loss.
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Espi
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at
I don't know how you'd calculate those odds, but I do know that if it
happens, it will come at the worst possible time.
That's the nature of these things.
My thought: How hard is it to install FireFox on iOS devices?
Kurt
On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 8:07 AM, David Lum david@nwea.org wrote:
I
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I need to present management with the odds of this actually getting
exploited, as I'd want to force TLS 1.2 for ADFS but that takes Chrome and
more importantly Safari
?
Cheers
Ken
From: listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] On
Behalf Of Micheal Espinola Jr
Sent: Thursday, 1 August 2013 1:43 AM
To: ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
Subject: Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
Odds would be very difficult to extrapolate with any
:* listsad...@lists.myitforum.com [mailto:
listsad...@lists.myitforum.com] *On Behalf Of *Micheal Espinola Jr
*Sent:* Thursday, 1 August 2013 1:43 AM
*To:* ntsysadm@lists.myitforum.com
*Subject:* Re: [NTSysADM] man-in-the-middle attack
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Odds would be very difficult to extrapolate
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