and had a job offer 5 days after
turning in my resume for it!
From: Daniel Evensen [mailto:dane...@att.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 4:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
I try to focus on the items that can be changed. My health, I walk 50 miles
www.taylor.k12.fl.us
From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:42 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
Ya, but that A+ still hangs in there :)
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 2:31 PM, David Lum
david@nwea.orgmailto:david
Department
Taylor County School District
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From: Daniel Evensen [mailto:dane...@att.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:43 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
I try to focus on the items that can be changed. My health, I walk 50 miles
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Inviato: venerdì 23 settembre 2011 16.29
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
Great advice-image is REALLY important. The folks who do the hiring are human,
and even if they try hard not to discriminate on age they often end up doing it
subconsciously.
Imagine
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Inviato: venerdì 23 settembre 2011 16.29
A: NT System Admin Issues
Oggetto: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
Great advice-image is REALLY important. The folks who do the hiring are human,
and even if they try hard not to discriminate on age they often end up
AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
Great advice-image is REALLY important. The folks who do the hiring are human,
and even if they try hard not to discriminate on age they often end up doing it
subconsciously.
Imagine two 55-year-old applicants looking
BTW Sherry!
Dave
From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:sabercrom...@nhdallas.com]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 5:23 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
Do not put your college graduation date on a resume, only the degree earned and
from where, work history, list
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From: David Lum [mailto:david@nwea.org]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
My rule was to apply for every
My thoughts exactly Don.
From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
Agreed, but knee-deep in the job search myself as we speak, even if you're not
fully-qualified for a position
sabercrom...@nhdallas.com wrote:
My thoughts exactly Don.
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*From:* Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
*Sent:* Friday, September 23, 2011 12:33 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
** **
Agreed, but knee-deep in the job search myself
PM, Sherry Abercrombie
sabercrom...@nhdallas.com wrote:
My thoughts exactly Don.
From: Guyer, Don [mailto:don.gu...@fiserv.com]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:33 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
Agreed, but knee-deep in the job search myself
It's how I was hired.
Sean Rector, MCSE
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 3:19 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
Yes, you can get an interview and be complete wrong for the position,
but still make
.
From: Jon Harris [mailto:jk.har...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 6:23 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
Amen and +1 on this. Having gone through this two years ago most of the
applicants I was competing against were in the sub 35 age range
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*Subject:* Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
** **
Amen and +1 on this. Having gone through this two years ago most of the
applicants I was competing against were in the sub 35 age range and when
ever I got
an oldster…
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*Sent:* Tuesday, September 20, 2011 6:23 PM
*To:* NT System Admin Issues
*Subject:* Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
** **
Amen and +1 on this. Having gone through this two years ago most of the
applicants I was competing
Admin Issuesntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Reply-To: NT System Admin Issues ntsysadmin@lyris.sunbelt-software.com
Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
Regardless of ones age, anything on the resume that goes back more than
10-12 years is of limited value, unless you're in the same
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:18 PM, kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
You mean my NT4 MCSE should be removed from my CV?
I thought that was my killer qualification :-)
What no CNE?
-- Ben
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T a resource hog! ~
~
LOL, I took CNE (the little Novell cert) off my resume a few years ago..
-Original Message-
From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 2:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:18 PM, kz2
:25 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
On Thu, Sep 22, 2011 at 5:18 PM, kz2...@googlemail.com wrote:
You mean my NT4 MCSE should be removed from my CV?
I thought that was my killer qualification :-)
What no CNE?
-- Ben
~ Finally, powerful endpoint
and employment history so that is one reason Andrews advice was spot
on.
Daniel Evensen
- Original Message -
From: David
To: NT System Admin Issues
Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2011 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
I'm about your age and had similar experiences
, September 20, 2011 7:02 PM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
Yeah, because questioning superiors is bad and all. I mean, it worked great
for the Nazis.
Yes, I did it. I Godwinned this thread. Seriously, though, if you can't ask
questions then it's not a place
Just saw this post. You were able to retire at 42? Seriously? Wow, someone must
have really done well in the stock market. I'm way jealous. I'm 45 and don't
see mysefelf retiring until my early 90's. Two daughters to put through
college.
Chris
~ Finally, powerful endpoint security that ISN'T
Subject: re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
Just saw this post. You were able to retire at 42? Seriously? Wow, someone must
have really done well in the stock market. I'm way jealous. I'm 45 and don't
see mysefelf retiring until my early 90's. Two daughters to put through
college.
Chris
~ Finally
Amen, brother
-Original Message-
From: Christopher Bodnar [mailto:christopher_bod...@glic.com]
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 11:54 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
Just saw this post. You were able to retire at 42? Seriously? Wow, someone must
I know two of the big healthcare vendors, those that supply HCIS to providers,
have a hiring policy just like that for the programming side. Low pay, long
hours but a great thing to put on a resume.
Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 18:23:29 -0400
Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
From: jk.har
I wouldn't discriminate against anyone based on age when recruiting, and
I've never experienced any, but at 35 I guess it would be unlikely for me to
experience it yet.
I work with a couple of guys who are in their 50s and the experience they
have is invaluable. Having said that, there are also
I have had several bad experiences with interviews and age. One 'Kid' of 24
told me 'God, you're old!' My response was 'Yea I was probably running coax
and twisted pair when you were in diapers'
I wanted to say 'that was 5 years ago while I was listening to AC-DC' too. I
get the old fart a
Back when I was taking engineering clasess,
If one girl walked in - we were all ... cool ... there is a girl in this class
If two girls walked in - we started getting suspicious.
If 3 girls walked in, we were definitely in the wrong class and
started checking to see where we should be.
I think
many companies who have cut
corners by hiring very inexperienced help and they need the expertise.
All the best,
Pat Marshall
_
From: andy [mailto:afo...@psu.edu]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 6:14 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination
not a young 'un anymore.
My 02 cents worth.
From: James Rankin [mailto:kz2...@googlemail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:27 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
I wouldn't discriminate against anyone based on age when recruiting, and I've
never experienced any
one issue related to age discrimination has to do with salary expectations,
and that the young bucks just out of schooling have less responsibility,
less expenses, and therefore will accept lower salaries implying that
the older applicants automatically would not accept as low a salary,
hope I'll get to accumulate 30 plus years of experience ;)
~d
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From: andy
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 7:14
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
Back when I was taking engineering clasess,
If one girl
: Pat Marshall [mailto:patm...@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:33 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: RE: OT:Age Discrimination in IT
As a woman who's been in IT since the early 80's (yup, I'm an old bag),
I've seen my share of age and sex discrimination. I've always been Pat
Some older folks are in better shape financially and may be willing to
take a lower salary. The bigger issue would be health insurance
benefits.
From: Erik Goldoff [mailto:egold...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 8:40 AM
To: NT System Admin Issues
Subject: Re: OT:Age
If I was a hiring person, I'd be much more wary of the 10 years absence. If you
can convince the employer that your skills are current/adequate for today's
needs/wants (or for their needs/wants), then I don't think age will be a
problem.
I'm in the same age bracket as Daniel.
Mark
On 20
Amen and +1 on this. Having gone through this two years ago most of the
applicants I was competing against were in the sub 35 age range and when
ever I got an interview the major questions were about pay and how low I
would go, and a lot less on skills. I know at least one place I did not get
an
Yeah, because questioning superiors is bad and all. I mean, it worked great
for the Nazis.
Yes, I did it. I Godwinned this thread. Seriously, though, if you can't ask
questions then it's not a place you want to work, anyway.
On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 6:23 PM, Jon Harris jk.har...@gmail.com
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