Re: [nysbirds-l] Smith's Longspur - Robert Moses SP (Suffolk Co) - 5/9

[Mike]

Thanks for getting the word out so quickly, Brendan!  With the proliferation of different rare bird outlets it’s easy to miss a spectacular rarity like this!Mike CooperRidge, NYSent from my iPhoneOn May 9, 2023, at 1:34 PM, Brendan Fogarty  wrote:Hi everyone,Julie Hart forwarded photos of a breeding plumage male Smith's Longspur just found near field 2 (the westernmost lot)/golf course area, found by a visiting birder named Matt Talluto. Photos will be available on eBird later. Pin: 40.62135, -73.28367His notes:"West end of parking lot. Take first access road to beach (near golf course entrance). Turn west down beach along the dune fence. Count five do-not-enter (least tern nest area) signs. It was just around the fifth sign. It was foraging in the foredunes among the grasses."Good luck if you go, and please be respectful of the breeding tern/plover restricted access areas and take all the other standard beach precautions. Best,Brendan Fogarty



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[nysbirds-l] Prothonotary Warbler, Frank Melville Park, Setauket, Suffolk

[Mike Scheibel]

Continuing this morning in the flowering crab apple trees just north of the 
small parking lot behind the Post Office 
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Brookhaven 

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[nysbirds-l] Red Crossbills, Wertheim NWR, Shirley, Suffolk Co

[Mike Scheibel]

Along the White Oak trail, just past the old building complex and west of where 
trail crosses a small creek, perched in deciduous trees creek side.
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RE: [nysbirds-l] Black vulture behavior

[Wasilco, Mike R (DEC)]

That bird appears to have a rather full crop from feeding and is likely just 
resting after eating its fill.

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On Saturday afternoon at Croton Point Park I had three black vultures two in 
and out of road picking at road kill; but the third was just sitting goose-like 
in the grass. It was not injured as gone by the time I left CPP. See photos in 
ebird link. I do not ever recall seeing such behavior of a vulture turkey or 
black. Is anyone familiar with it?

L. Trachtenberg
Ossining

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Do Oystercatchers mourn or memorialize their losses.

[Wasilco, Mike R (DEC)]

If it is any consolation, based on the spilled contents of that egg, the egg 
was infertile and never going to hatch.  If the egg was due to hatch that day 
or anytime soon, it should have been mostly filled with a developed embryo with 
little to no yolk left to spill.

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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Do Oystercatchers mourn or memorialize their losses.

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As some of you know, I have been following two Oystercatcher nests on Brooklyn 
beaches this season, one in Plumb Beach and the other in Dead Horse Point. Both 
nests produced two chicks each and lost the third egg to predation.

In Plumb Beach, the two parents abandoned the third egg because they were busy 
taking care of two chicks which require a lot of attention. The third egg 
stayed unprotected in the nest for almost two weeks before it disappeared, most 
likely to a predator. No evidence of the egg was seen.

But in Dead Horse Point, a strange thing happened, I couldn't believe my eyes.
The third egg was supposed to hatch yesterday, after the first two hatched in 
the previous two days. But today, I only managed to see two chicks alive. The 
Whole family was foraging some 500 feet away from the nest location.

I decided to check the nest location to see if I can see any evidence of an egg 
or a chick sitting on the ground. And to my surprise, one of the parents flew 
all the way and landed near me, making all kind of noise. Initially, I thought, 
the third chick is alive, and the parent is protecting it. But instead, I found 
the third egg completely destroyed and the content is spilling out of the 
broken eggshell.

The egg was few inches away from the nest location, which suggests it was eaten 
by a bird, not a land animal, like a raccoon which usually take the egg away 
and they are in abundance here.

I have seen many shorebird nests over the years, and I always see the eggs 
disappeared without any trace. This is the first time I see a remnant of a 
destroyed egg.

Usually, the Oystercatcher move on after losing their eggs. But this time, and 
for the first time, I see a parent staying close to the egg, making all kind of 
noise. This gave me the impression that the parent, either doesn't think that 
the chick is dead, and hope that it will come out somehow, or it was mourning 
or memorializing its loss. it kept doing this until I left the nest area and 
then it went back to its family.

It was a heartbreaking scene that left me in sadness for the next few hours.

I wonder if anyone has any knowledge that Oystercatcher do mourn or memorialize 
their losses.

Here are photos of the chicks, parents and the destroyed egg:
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[nysbirds-l] Sedge Wren at Iroquois NWR near headquarters

[Wasilco, Mike R (DEC)]

I just got a report of a sedge wren encountered near the Iroquois NWR 
headquarters building.  Reported as 200 feet NE of building near fork in trail.

Michael R. Wasilco
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[nysbirds-l] upstate ibises and worm-eating warbler

[Wasilco, Mike R (DEC)]

I haven't seen these come across the list serves yet so I am sharing reports 
from the local text alert.

Worm-eating warbler still present as of this morning at Firehouse Woods, near 
Braddock Bay WMA, Monroe County.

Two ibis in flight from Braddock Bay Hawk Watch area last seen headed toward 
Burger Park section of Braddock Bay WMA, Greece, Monroe County

Three glossy ibis at Montezuma NWR in pond near the eagle sculpture  on the 
wildlife drive section along the Thruway.

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[nysbirds-l] Laughing Gull Vitale Park, Conesus Lake, Livingston County

[Wasilco, Mike R (DEC)]

The Laughing gull found yesterday and first reported by Tim Lenz continues 
today.  At 1130 this morning it was located on the lawn area in the middle of 
the park with a group of ring-billed gulls.  Some photos I captured this 
morning are in my ebird checklist https://ebird.org/atlasny/checklist/S105892765

This bird is apparently a first for Livingston County, at least according to 
eBird.

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[nysbirds-l] Livingston County Cinnamon Teal continues

[Wasilco, Mike R (DEC)]

I don't think I saw it reported on the statewide listserve yet that the male 
cinnamon teal first found last week is still present and has been a bit more 
cooperative since its rediscovery in the same location on Sunday.  The water 
levels in the fields along Groveland Flats Road (Rte 258) between SR 36 and SR 
63 are much lower than they were a week ago, and the birds are further 
concentrated by the current ice cover.  The cinnamon teal was present today at 
least until 130pm in the pocket of open water at the start of the taller corn 
stubble on the south side of the road just east of the westernmost bridge.  
There are hundreds of ducks massed in this opening and the edges of the ice so 
the bird moves in and out of view regularly.

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RE: [nysbirds-l] Cinnamon Teal Livingston County 3/22 -No

[Wasilco, Mike R (DEC)]

As of noon today, the cinnamon teal had not been refound, but could easily 
still be present in the huge amount of flooded cornfield habitat at the site.  
There were numerous ducks appearing and disappearing into the flooded stalks.

A Eurasian Green-wing Teal was found (not seen by myself) this morning a bit 
south (about 0.5 mile) along Rte 36 from Rte 258 of the spot the cinnamon had 
been seen yesterday, but it too shortly disappeared into the cover.  This bird 
was seen from a pull-off between the ends of Kysorville Rd.

There is a couple square miles of flooded field habitat at this site so these 
rarities could be hard to find, but the waterfowl spectacular is still worth a 
visit.  My checklist from this morning gives a feel for the numbers of birds 
involved, and my counts are conservative. 
https://ebird.org/atlasny/checklist/S105365443

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From: bounce-126422688-73379...@list.cornell.edu 
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Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2022 3:17 PM
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Subject: [nysbirds-l] Cinnamon Teal Livingston County 3/21


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Livingston County, after producing a Smith's Longspur a few days ago, has 
struck again! A CINNAMON TEAL was photographed well by John and Karla Gordinier 
at Groveland Flats yesterday, March 21st, at 5pm. View the checklist here: 
https://ebird.org/checklist/S105344716

Per the checklist notes, the male Teal was associating with a female Northern 
Shoveler. A handful of lists from today (the 22nd) at the same location seem to 
indicate that the Cinnamon Teal was not refound, although it could definitely 
still be present in the general vicinity.

Good birding everyone!

David Chernack
Westchester County
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[nysbirds-l] Black-headed Gull, E Setauket Harbor, Suffolk Co

[Mike Scheibel]

Showing now north of #91 Shore Road, East Setauket 
Mike & Lynne Scheibel 
Brookhaven 

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[nysbirds-l] Yellow-headed Blackbird Caledonia, Livingston County Saturday

[Wasilco, Mike R (DEC)]

I was surprised by an apparent yellow-headed blackbird in a flock of cowbirds 
in my neighbors tree on Saturday morning.  Unfortunately I only viewed the bird 
for a few moments and the entire flock disappeared when I ducked into the 
vehicle to grab my camera. I have no idea if this flock is hanging around 
locally or if they were passing through, as I have only been seeing an 
occasional cowbird at my feeders  with the exception of this flock on Saturday 
morning.  If I had to venture a guess on the blackbird, I would say it was 
either a female or first year male, but I did not see the bird from the side or 
in flight to note if it had white in the wing.

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878 Leicester Rd., Livingston, New York, US Feb 5, 2022 7:35 AM - 9:00 AM
Protocol: Traveling
0.04 mile(s)
15 species

Mourning Dove  11
Red-bellied Woodpecker  1
Blue Jay  5
American Crow  1
Tufted Titmouse  2
European Starling  3
Northern Mockingbird  1
House Sparrow  30
American Tree Sparrow  1
Dark-eyed Junco  10
White-crowned Sparrow  1
White-throated Sparrow  3
Yellow-headed Blackbird  1 Within flock of cowbirds.  Similar in size.  
Viewed from below and in front.  Could not see sides or back.  Dark bird with 
notable brownish yellow/golden throat/upper breast and head.  The lower edge of 
yellowish area on breast appeared to intergrade into the surrounding 
black/brown giving appearance of muted streaks.  Only viewed for a few seconds. 
 Why I reached for camera entire flock departed.  Did not see bird in flight.
Brown-headed Cowbird  85 Actual count.  Had been having only a few cowbirds 
at feeder, so was surprised to find this flock in tree.  There was also what 
appeared to be a yellow-headed blackbird in the flock.
Northern Cardinal  8

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[nysbirds-l] White-crowned Sparrow, Buffalo Farm, Roanoke Av., Riverhead, Suffolk

[Mike Scheibel]

Nine White-crowned Sparrows feeding along a fence line, about 100 yds south of 
where the Canada Goose flock, including Snows and one Ross’ Goose were located 
this morning, west side of Roanoke Av, roughly 150 yds so. of intersection with 
Reeves Av..
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[nysbirds-l] Gray Kingbird Great Kills Park Staten Island

[Mike]

Gray Kingbird currently being seen in sumac stand across street from large 
concrete block structure that holds sand and also around pines close to 
concrete structure. Scoped from the first big parking lot across street from 
ranger station. Kingbird is active and flying from one side of the road to the 
other, often perching and flying to ground to feed. Found by Chad and Nicole 
from Illinois. 

Mike Shanley 

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Drake King Eider Montauk , Suffolk

[Mike]

There is currently an adult or near ad male King Eider sitting on the beach 
along East Lake Drive behind the Inlet Seafood dock in Montauk. 

Mike Cooper
Ridge, LI

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[nysbirds-l] Cattle Egret, Eastport, Suffolk

[Mike Scheibel]

Continuing in association with horses, location as described by Eileen S. 
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[nysbirds-l] Juvenile Ross's Goose Avon DEC pond, Livingston County

[Wasilco, Mike R (DEC)]

There is currently a juvenile Ross's goose sitting next to two cackling goose 
on the pond here at the Avon DEC office among the 1,400 or so Canada geese.

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[nysbirds-l] American Golden Plover, Smith Point, Suffolk now

[Mike Scheibel]

Previously reported by John Gluth, Golden now visible along main roadway east 
of pavilion between road and main parking lot
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[Mike Scheibel]

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[nysbirds-l] Roseate Spoonbill and Wood Stork Montezuma NWR, Seneca County

[Wasilco, Mike R (DEC)]

Both birds were showing well around lunchtime today.  The Spoonbill was perched 
out in open on a branch over the Seneca River about 200m west of the Rte 89 
bridge on north side of river with some cormorants.  The wood stork was 
actively feeding with some egrets in a pool along the near side of Knox 
Marcellus Marsh about 2/3 south in the marsh.  It was near the island of 
cattail  with a pool of open water to its south.

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[nysbirds-l] Conesus Inlet WMA Warblers Livingston County

[Wasilco, Mike R (DEC)]

I had a good diversity of warblers this morning at Conesus Inlet WMA along the 
trail to the boardwalks on the NW portion of the main impoundment.  Highlights 
were first Blackpolls of the year as well as both Canada and Mourning warblers. 
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Conesus Inlet WMA--Sliker Hill Rd. dike & wetlands, Livingston, New York, US 
May 20, 2021 9:50 AM - 11:34 AM
Protocol: Traveling
0.7 mile(s)
55 species

Canada Goose  85
Wood Duck  18
Mourning Dove  2
Sora  1
Turkey Vulture  1
Red-tailed Hawk  1
Belted Kingfisher  1
Yellow-bellied Sapsucker  1
Red-bellied Woodpecker  3
Downy Woodpecker  3
Pileated Woodpecker  1
Northern Flicker  1
Eastern Wood-Pewee  3
Least Flycatcher  2
Eastern Phoebe  1
Great Crested Flycatcher  1
Eastern Kingbird  3
Yellow-throated Vireo  4
Warbling Vireo  8
Red-eyed Vireo  2
Blue Jay  2
American Crow  1
Black-capped Chickadee  2
Tufted Titmouse  1
Tree Swallow  9
Barn Swallow  3
White-breasted Nuthatch  2
Blue-gray Gnatcatcher  5
House Wren  1
Marsh Wren  3
Carolina Wren  1
European Starling  2
Gray Catbird  12
Wood Thrush  1
American Robin  5
Cedar Waxwing  3
American Goldfinch  5
Chipping Sparrow  1
Song Sparrow  8
Swamp Sparrow  4
Baltimore Oriole  9
Red-winged Blackbird  24
Common Grackle  18
Ovenbird  1
Northern Waterthrush  1
Black-and-white Warbler  1
Mourning Warbler  1
Common Yellowthroat  4
American Redstart  1
Magnolia Warbler  3
Yellow Warbler  14
Blackpoll Warbler  2
Canada Warbler  1
Scarlet Tanager  2
Rose-breasted Grosbeak  5

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Conesus Inlet WMA--West Swamp Rd. Overlook, Livingston, New York, US May 20, 
2021 8:54 AM - 9:46 AM
Protocol: Traveling
0.42 mile(s)
38 species

Canada Goose  10
Yellow-billed Cuckoo  1
Black-billed Cuckoo  1
Great Blue Heron  1
Bald Eagle  2
Yellow-bellied Sapsucker  1
Red-bellied Woodpecker  1
Downy Woodpecker  1
Eastern Phoebe  1
Great Crested Flycatcher  1
Warbling Vireo  4
Blue Jay  1
Tufted Titmouse  1
Tree Swallow  1
Barn Swallow  2
White-breasted Nuthatch  1
House Wren  1
Marsh Wren  2
Gray Catbird  4
Wood Thrush  1
American Robin  4
American Goldfinch  8
Song Sparrow  2
Swamp Sparrow  3
Baltimore Oriole  4
Red-winged Blackbird  18
Brown-headed Cowbird  3
Common Grackle  5
Black-and-white Warbler  1
Tennessee Warbler  8
Common Yellowthroat  1
Cape May Warbler  1
Magnolia Warbler  1
Blackburnian Warbler  1
Yellow Warbler  3
Chestnut-sided Warbler  1
Northern Cardinal  3
Rose-breasted Grosbeak  1

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[nysbirds-l] Wood Stork -Westhampton - Yes

[mike rath]

Currently being viewed from the end of Baycrest Ave just before it curves to 
the left.  In the marsh feeding near a large white boat.  
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Four-letter Codes for Birds

[Mike]

While I don’t remember the Birdwatcher’s Digest article that Shai refers to, 
there was an article in N.A Bird Bander from 1978 which proposed a four letter 
code pretty much like the one used today.  
https://sora.unm.edu/sites/default/files/journals/nabb/v003n01/p0016-p0025.pdf

I also remember a stretch of time when the ABA tried assigning a (3 digit?) 
number to each species.  
Mike Cooper
Ridge

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> 
> When Rich posted yesterday, I was anxiously awaiting any news at all from 
> him and read it immediately on the basis of the sender's name, regardless of 
> the subject line. I and many others appreciated his efforts to re-find the 
> Violent Green Swallow in the cold and wind. That said, the "RWSW" in the 
> subject line caught my eye. I haven't seen that code since I finally tore 
> myself away from it in the late 80s or 90s, but my old childhood notebooks 
> contain many such entries, prior to the standardization of four-letter codes 
> and the splitting of the Rough-winged Swallow complex into several species, 
> including our NRWS. I'm guessing that Rich's use of codes goes back at least 
> that far, and that his typo dates him to the earliest years of this 
> expedience.
> 
> I vividly remember my first exposure to the idea of four-letter codes for 
> birds: an article in Bird Watcher's Digest around 1981. I thought it was a 
> great idea and adopted it in my own notes immediately. My early notebooks 
> need a little tlc to interpret: my "BWWA" meant Black-and-white Warbler, a 
> super-familiar species that nested behind my house, rather than Blue-winged 
> Warbler, which took me a couple of years to find in its much lower numbers 
> and more localized breeding sites within biking distance of my house. When I 
> finally found my first Blue-winged Warblers in the Great Swamp, I realized I 
> had a problem. Ditto for my discovery of a colony of Bank Swallows at the 
> Plains Road super fund site, which was accomplished only after a couple of 
> notebooks were filled with "BASW," referring to the ubiquitous, chirpy, 
> long-tailed one.
> 
> Anyway, I'd like to commend the use of four-letter codes, not just for 
> note-taking, but for efficiently navigating eBird. Standard codes work in 
> eBird for any search at the species level, and, in certain kinds of 
> navigation, down to subspecies level, for those that have codes assigned 
> (e.g. searching media for "YPWA" brings up photos and recordings of Yellow 
> Palm Warbler). This last observation reminds me of a significant and largely 
> under-appreciated virtue of four-letter codes. Fluency in them will teach you 
> a lot about taxonomy and field-identifiability at the subspecies and 
> superspecies levels. Subspecies that have been assigned codes are those that 
> are distinctive enough that banders are expected to be able to distinguish 
> and record them as such. So why not birders, too? In fact, many of the codes 
> that were initially applied to distinctive subspecies, such as "ETTI" (vs. 
> Black-crested Titmouse), have since been split. In other cases, it was 
> enlightening to learn that I wasn't supposed to use "WIFL" when banding the 
> locally common breeding Empid, because of difficulties in distinguishing it 
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[nysbirds-l] Blue Grosbeak, Bellport Dock, Bellport, Suffolk Co

[Mike Scheibel]

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[nysbirds-l] Prospects for finding Progne today?

[Mike]

Any updates so far from folks on the scene?  I imagine there might be one or 
two birders on their way. 
Thanks

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[nysbirds-l] Alley Pond Park

[Jaklitsch, Mike]

Short afternoon walk yielded 5 FOS Phoebe, 3 GC kinglets, a Sapucker and an 
amazing chorus of frogs at Decadon Pond
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[nysbirds-l] Pine Grosbeak, Saratoga Co.

[Mike Scheibel]

Seven Pine Grosbeaks feeding now in crabapple trees at corner of Woodside Dr. 
(#34) and Goodman Ct., Burnt Hills, Saratoga Co, NY
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[nysbirds-l] Previously reported Common Murre - Crab Meadow Beach

[Mike Scheibel]

Previously reported Alcid is likely a juvenile Razorbill ; refound and id’d by 
Pat & Shai at very nearly the same location 
My apologies for the confusion 
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[nysbirds-l] Common Murre-Crab Meadow Beach, Suffolk Co.

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East of stone jetty at considerable distance , diving.
I was not able to find Barrow’s despite nearly ideal conditions 
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[nysbirds-l] Red Crossbills, Cupsogue CP, Suffolk Co.

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In pines west of parking lot 
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[nysbirds-l] Spotted Towhee - Baldwin Harbor Park, Nassau Co

[Mike McBrien]

This morning, Shai Mitra and Pat Lindsay found a Spotted Towhee at Baldwin 
Harbor Park in Baldwin, Nassau County. 

The towhee is in the shrubby area in the center of the park, to the north of 
the driving loop. This densely thicketed area is bisected by a small paved 
walking path, and the bird has been frequenting the entire length of the path. 
It was last seen at the west end of the path, feeding with a group of WTSP and 
NOCAs, and occasionally calling.  The bird is very skulky so patience is 
needed, and standing and waiting at a distance in the vicinity of this feeding 
flock seems to be the best move. 

When you enter the park from the end of Grand Ave, drive past the large ball 
fields and park in the lot on the south side of the  roadway. From here you can 
walk north towards the shrubby area, where the paved path can be accessed from 
either side of the scrub.

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[nysbirds-l] Red Crossbills - Jones Beach S P West End, Nassau Co.

[Mike Scheibel]

Continuing flock of about 35 in median at West End, west of CG station 
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[nysbirds-l] Re: [nysbirds-l] Staten Island kingbird is a Western not Cassin’s

[Mike]

Western Kingbird still here at Mount Loretto. Refound by Phil Ribolow at 2:35pm 
perched in middle of field on left side of main path just after you walk into 
park from parking lot.  

-Mike Shanley 

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> Per Seth Wollney and Anthony Ciancimino the kingbird at Mt. Loretto is a 
> Western. They are looking at it now. 
> 
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[nysbirds-l] Red-throated Loon & Harlequin Duck, Suffolk Co.

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[nysbirds-l] FOS Pine Siskin

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FOS Pine Siskin within one hour of putting up my feeders in Douglaston

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FOS red-breasted nuthatch calling in trees around my home in Douglaston this 
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[nysbirds-l] Swallow-tailed Kites, Kendall, Orleans Co.

[Mike Scheibel]

Both birds being observed now from the Church location at the intersection of 
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[nysbirds-l] Western Kingbird - Robert Moses, Suffolk

[Mike McBrien]

Just after 9:00, a Western Kingbird flew past the pavilion at Robert Moses SP 
Field 2, traveling west to east. Subsequent efforts to relocate it over the 
past hour have not turned it up, but it was flying relatively low and it’s 
likely worth keeping an eye out for it. The seawatching this morning was very 
foggy and rather unproductive, despite good company. 

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[nysbirds-l] Alley Pond Park

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A short walk this morning was fairly productive with 10 species of warblers 
including a Blue Winged & Hooded.  Other highlights included three species of 
thrush and flyover Raven & C. Loon

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[nysbirds-l] Whimbrel, Timber Pt GC, East Marina area, Suffolk

[Mike Scheibel]

Apologies for the late post; about 1 pm today, the 24th, acting on an earlier 
(morning) report, Bob P. & I walked SW from the E  marina parking lot; after 
observing 4 Pectoral Sands,  two Whimbrel were found along the bay shoreline 
near Hole #6 where they landed in a sandy area for several minutes then moved 
onto the grassy tee (closer to where I stood) a few minutes later they flew N 
toward the center of the GC and appeared to land near a large flock of Brant 
and other birds; they were not relocated during the next ~30 minutes I remained 
on site.
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[nysbirds-l] Pine Warbler

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Pine Warbler visiting the peanut feeder for the second day in a row here in my 
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[nysbirds-l] 2/24 Montauk Point (Suffolk) - Black Guillemot, TB Murre continues

[Mike McBrien]

Late this morning, a Black Guillemot flew in from the East and dropped in just 
off the Restaurant overlook. It was feeding along a pale frothy current line, a 
few hundred yards off the beach, when last seen.

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[nysbirds-l] Yes- Sans Souci American White Pelican

[mike rath]

In the second “pond” north of Montauk Highway.  The bird was not viewable from 
the highway.  From the trailhead at the north end of Old Broadway Ave, walk 
east to the ponds and then go south.  You must crossover to the east side of 
the ponds  where there is a tree laying across the trail and keep going south 
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[nysbirds-l] Black-headed Gull, JBSP, Coast Guard Station, Nassau Co.

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Now on sand bar showing well.
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[nysbirds-l] Barnacle Goose; Suffolk Co.,Riverhead Sod Farms, north of Northville Tpke, west of Rte 105

[Mike Scheibel]

Viewing now in large flock of Canadas 
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[nysbirds-l] King Eider -Shinnecock East

[Mike Scheibel]

Female continues close to shore, viewing now from Shinnecock East County 
parking lot; also, as a bonus 16 Snow Buntings and an adult Bald Eagle perched 
on distant sandbar to the north
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Long Island: Origins of banded Glaucous Gull at Shinnecock Inlet?

[Mike]

I have an update to the banded Glaucous Gull seen on Saturday near Shinnecock 
Inlet, Suffolk County. Vernon Buckle put me in touch with some of the Canadian 
researchers doing work in Nunavut in the Canadian Arctic, and today I received 
this reply

“That is one of the glaucous gull chicks we banded this summer at Coats Island 
(82.01 W, 62.95 N). We banded it on 1 Aug 2019, when it was 15 days old. Nice 
to learn that it has survived, especially since it was one of the later nests 
in the colony this year.”

Thanks to all involved, especially Lisa Nasta, who noticed the band, and John 
Gluth, Ken Thompson and Pat and Shai for also photographing and keeping track 
of the bird. Also Rich Guthrie, Angus Wilson and Doug Gochfeld for background 
info they provided. Angus nailed the location- Nunavut


Mike Cooper
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> On Jan 4, 2020, at 11:45 PM, Michael Cooper  wrote:
> 
> We have photos of the band and we think we have all the numbers. One observer 
> entered the numbers and received this response
> “ the bander has not submitted data for the band yet” and she was asked to 
> submit photos. 
> 
> Basically, we found the bird and Lisa Nasta noticed the band.  I tossed 
> oyster crackers to it while she and John Gluth concentrated on photographing 
> the band. 
> 
> Oyster crackers were courtesy of Pat Lindsay and Shai Mitra after a nice 
> lunch at Sunday’s a few weeks ago.  Fortunately, Sunday’s was not handing out 
> chocolate chips or I would have eaten them by now and the bird would have 
> flown off. 
> 
> Mike Cooper
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>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 10:40 PM, Richard Guthrie  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Great idea, Angus. 
>> 
>> Just an additional note: in order for the BBL to provide a complete report, 
>> the entire band number must be submitted. A Canadian or American band will 
>> have a numeric pattern such as: xxx-x (three numbers, a dash, then five 
>> numbers. There should also be an abbreviated plain language instruction 
>> embossed on the band. For reporting purposes, only the band numbers need be 
>> submitted (but - again, ALL the numbers). If the band is from a system other 
>> than Canada/USA, then there could be a wide variety of protocols involved. 
>> 
>> Rich Guthrie
>> New Baltimore, NY 
>> 
>> 
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>>> On Jan 4, 2020, at 9:54 PM, Angus Wilson  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Today a couple of observers reported a 1 CY GLAUCOUS GULL from the parking 
>>> lot at ocean-end of the Ponquogue Bridge in Hampton Bays (Suffolk Co.). A 
>>> handsome bird for sure but what's really fascinating is that it carries a 
>>> metal band on the right leg. With luck, someone will be able to read the 
>>> band in the field or from photos so we can find out the history of the 
>>> bird. 
>>> 
>>> I'm not aware of any other band recoveries for this species in New York 
>>> State. My assumption would be that it was banded as a chick in Nunavut 
>>> (Canadian High Arctic) but for once we have a chance to know for sure. 
>>> Maybe we will be surprised. Readers may remember a Harlequin Duck 
>>> photographed by Derek Rogers in early January 2018 at the inlet itself, 
>>> which most unexpectedly turned out to be from Montana and thus from the 
>>> separate western population.  
>>> 
>>> https://blog.nature.org/science/2018/03/26/a-harlequin-ducks-long-cross-country-migration/
>>> 
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>>> Glaucous Gull please submit the info to the Bird Banding Lab and share 
>>> their response with the list. It's possible that input from multiple 
>>> observers will be required to get a complete number.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Brown Pelican and Golden-crowned Sparrow still around?

[Mike Scheibel]

John, just heard from a local Shelter Islander, same guy that got great photos, 
no Pelican yesterday pm or today as of now
Mike S

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>  Andrew: The GCS was under the feeder through yesterday. Haven't seen any 
> reports today. Given the abundant food there I'd suspect he'll stick around 
> fora while; don't know about the pelican.
> John T.
> 
>> On November 18, 2019 at 11:39 AM Andrew Block  wrote: 
>> 
>> Does anyone know if the Brown Pelican in Montauk and the Golden-crowned 
>> Sparrow are still around?  I was thinking of going for them tomorrow if they 
>> are still there.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Andrew 
>> 
>> Andrew v. F. Block
>> Consulting Naturalist 
>> 20 Hancock Avenue, Apt. 3 
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[nysbirds-l] White Pelican at Avon DEC pond, Livingston County

[Wasilco, Mike R (DEC)]

There is currently an adult white pelican along with 3 Tundra swans and a 
couple thousand geese on the pond at the Avon DEC office.

Michael R. Wasilco
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New York State Department of Environmental Conservation
6274 E. Avon-Lima Rd., Avon, NY 14414
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[nysbirds-l] 15 Brown Pelicans - Huguenot - Staten Island

[Mike]

Jose and I spotted 15 Brown Pelicans heading from Sandy Hook, NJ towards Great 
Kills Park Staten Island. Seen from the bottom of Arbutus Ave at 530pm. 

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[nysbirds-l] American Avocet , Sagg Main Beach, Sagaponack Pond, Suffolk

[Mike Scheibel]

Now feeding along east side of the new cut within 100 yards of the ocean 
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[nysbirds-l] Black-bellied Whistling Ducks, Nickerson Beach, Nassau

[Mike Scheibel]

Two Black-bellied Whistling Ducks continue this morning along west side of the 
grassy field which runs parallel to Lido Blvd @ Nickerson Beach Park.
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[nysbirds-l] Black-bellied Whistling-Duck - Nickerson Beach, Nassau Co

[Mike McBrien]

Shai Mitra and I are currently with a group of 10 whistling-ducks at Nickerson 
Beach. They were found here by Don Heitzmann and company yesterday evening. 
They are on the wet lawn at the western end of the park (in the same area as 
the stilt from earlier this spring).

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Re: [nysbirds-l] misplaced Glossy Ibis

[Mike]

Just north of Exit 69 on the Long Island Expressway there are several rows of 
compost piles along the east side of the road. The puddles that form between 
those piles are attractive to Glossy Ibis- I’ve seen as many as 30 feeding in 
the puddles and on the compost piles there.  It seems like a spot that 
shorebirds might use as well, but so far I’ve only seen the occasional 
yellowlegs feeding there. 

Mike
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> On Jun 4, 2019, at 8:41 PM, kathy k  wrote:
> 
> I’ve had several recent sightings of Glossy Ibis in the same general area.  
> There are fields just to the north of baseball heaven both north and south of 
> the LIE. The Suffolk County Farm, sod fields, etc on Yaphank Rd are a stones 
> throw to the east (as the ibis flies). I have seen them descending into that 
> area. I’m not sure how much standing water is a requirement for foraging. 
> Perhaps others could enlighten. A few weeks ago I saw a pair on a seemingly 
> dry sod field in Eastport. 
> 
> Kathryn Klecan 
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> 
> Subject: Misplaced Glossy Ibis
> Date: Tue Jun 4 2019 9:50 am
> From: glennq AT verizon.net
>  
> I've been seeing single Glossy Ibis on several occasions in the vicinity of 
> Sills Road just south of the LIE (Suffolk County, usually in the late 
> afternoon on my way home from work.Yesterday, around 4:30 PM, I saw 4 ibis 
> together.All sightings have been of low-flying birds, heading generally due 
> west. Yesterday's group of 4 were also low-flying, right over Baseball 
> Heaven, and they appeared to be getting ready to set down somewhere.I can 
> possibly see how they might be coming from the vicinity of the Carman's River 
> but I can't imagine where they're heading. A look at Google satellite doesn't 
> show anyplace even remotely damp that would attract them.Any theories?
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[nysbirds-l] Sandhill Crane; Yes. Napeague, Suffolk

[Mike Scheibel]

Continues south of Cranberry Hole Road, Promised Land, Napeague at location 
previously reported earlier today.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Black-bellied Whistling Ducks - Cow Meadow - Yes

[Mike McBrien]

The Whistling Ducks were still present when I arrived at 8:20 tonight; however, 
shortly thereafter, they picked up and flew low over the marinas and 
residential area immediately to the west.

For those looking to chase the birds early tomorrow, I think it is still worth 
visiting Cow Meadow.  After the ducks initially flew off the west, they 
returned on two separate occasions over the next several minutes (flying in 
from the west, circling low over the pond and adjacent field, and then 
returning back west). Given this behavior, I think it is reasonable to think 
that they might have subsequently returned in the twilight hours to the Cow 
Meadow ponds.

Good luck to those who go,

Mike McBrien
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> The four continue in the pond. Hopefully they roost for the night.
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Re:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Douglaston, Queens

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Just had 4 Ravens over my house in Douglaston moving southeast.  High but 
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[nysbirds-l] Alley Pond Park, Queens

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Area around Decadon Pond had decent diversity this morning with three 
highlights among about 12 species of warblers in 45 min: Chestnut-sided, 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Interesting raptor, Ulster County

[Mike]

How about the heavy blackish line through the eye- does Red-shouldered 
typically look that heavily marked or might it be an artifact of lighting?

Thanks

Mike
RIidge

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> Why not an immature Red-shouldered Hawk? Streaking on the breast and long 
> wings with rather parallel leading and trailing edges fit. Gray Hawk is 
> chunkier (like a Broad-winged Hawk). There’s a picture of an immature on my 
> web site (http://stevewalternature.com/ ),  on the Butoes in flight gallery. 
> I don’t see crescents to clinch Red-shoulder, but the pictures aren’t great. 
> There’s an old axiom at hawk watches. If you think you have a Goshawk and it 
> turns out to be a Buteo, then it’s a Red-shouldered. Or is it the other way 
> around?
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[nysbirds-l] Bald Eagles Riverhead, Suffolk Co

[Mike]

Two Bald Eagles were feeding on the deer carcass reported by Jean earlier, 
until a Ford pickup truck pulled up and a man got out and walked out onto the 
farm field carrying a camera.  He approached the Eagles until the younger bird 
finally flushed off.  He kept walking out toward the remaining bird, an adult, 
until I pulled up next to his truck and confronted him from the roadside.  He 
seemed offended to be called out for 1) trespassing on the farm field and 2) 
flushing a Bald Eagle (!), of all things!!   A minute later a car pulled in and 
a woman got it and started walking out into the field too!  

It’s just mind boggling to me that people will still do this! First off, these 
are the fields where we search in winter for rare geese, then in the fall for 
“grasspipers”.  It’s in our interest to maintain good relationships with the 
landowners- how these people justify walking out into private property is 
beyond me.  Second- you’re flushing Bald Eagles off their food source- how 
brain dead are you??  

I have photos of the license plates and people involved and will be sharing 
with NYS DEC and US Fish and Wildlife. 

I know the discussion goes on here about posting and birder behavior, but 
really, things like this make it more likely that reporting lists will become 
fragmented as we need to “vet” birders and photographers who will not engage in 
unethical behavior.  

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[nysbirds-l] Red-necked Grebe, Patchogue Lake, Suffolk Co.

[Mike Scheibel]

Red-necked Grebe found yesterday by Shai Mitra at this location continues this 
morning , diving actively near south end of the lake; also, found a drake 
Blue-winged Teal associating with Gadwalls near mid-lake west side.
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[nysbirds-l] Ravens

[Jaklitsch, Mike]

Yesterday’s winter waterfowl count of the Islip and surrounding environs got 
off to an interesting start with a pair of adult ravens harassing a Redtail on 
the Seatuck Environmental Association’s property.  Probably a first for the 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Clay-Colored Sparrow in Quogue

[Mike]

Still present this morning- same location.  Thanks, Steve!

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> This morning Tom Moran and I saw a Clay-Colored Sparrow with a few Field 
> Sparrows near the Post Lane Bridge in Quogue. It was feeding on the ground 
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[nysbirds-l] Staten Island Varied Thrush - NO

[Mike Shanley]

Spent the afternoon searching for the Varied Thrush without success. Chat 
continues. It was cold. If anyone has any positive reports from today, please 
let me know the when and where. Going to try again tomorrow early afternoon. 
A Swamp Sparrow and Baltimore Oriole continue at my feeders in Huguenot. 
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[nysbirds-l] Razorbill Staten Island

[Mike]

Had a Razorbill late this afternoon from the foot of Huguenot Ave. 

Also on hand were two Red-shouldered Hawks. 

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[nysbirds-l] Pine Siskins

[Jaklitsch, Mike]

Nice surprise to see three Pine Siskins at my feeder in Douglaston with several 
goldfinches and house finches.

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Grey kingbird Jones Beach

[Mike]

Is it Still being seen???

Mike Cooper

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County

[Mike]

My apologies to Arie for responding publicly.  My phone bundles people together 
in ways I don’t understand. 
I know we are on the same page as far as our concern for the birds and abiding 
by the ABA guidelines.   And I agree that splitting off to another notification 
group is not a great solution.   
We probably differ most in our faith in our fellow man- I’ve been in situations 
now where I’ve had to shame people into not chasing a bird over and over, some 
will stop and some won’t. I hope Arie is right and we can help people 
understand where we’re coming from. 

Mike Cooper
Ridge


>> On Sep 27, 2018, at 2:25 PM, Mike  wrote:
>> 
>> I no longer post any birds at this and other locations where I see 
>> photographers.  I keep a group list of contacts and limit my postings to 
>> them. I’m sure I’m unintentionally leaving people out, and I’ve been 
>> throwing the idea of a WhatsApp group around with a few other birders.  
>> There’s currently a 256 member limit on a group, but there are ways around 
>> that if we some day exceeded that.  
>> The photography stuff is out of control and I won’t contribute to a public 
>> group any sightings of birds that are in chaseable locations. 
>> 
>> Mike Cooper
>> Ridge
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
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>>> On Sep 27, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Patricia Lindsay  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two 
>>> Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, 
>>> several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get 
>>> photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and 
>>> slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were 
>>> obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and 
>>> preen in peace.
>>> 
>>> I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a 
>>> transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to 
>>> the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first 
>>> time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE 
>>> PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this 
>>> would not be a pleasant study and left.
>>> 
>>> I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common 
>>> sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo 
>>> more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other 
>>> birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or 
>>> rest as well.  And give other birders a chance to see them! Another 
>>> birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the 
>>> closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when  the truck, 
>>> already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the 
>>> birds.
>>> 
>>> PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance.
>>> PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up 
>>> near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle.
>>> Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in 
>>> to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so 
>>> constantly.
>>> And please have respect for others trying to see the birds.
>>> 
>>> The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this 
>>> morning by Shai.
>>> 
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>>> Bay Shore
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County

[Mike]

If reporting them means the birds are under constant harassment then yes, they 
shouldn’t get reported.  Guidelines like those promoted by the ABA should mean 
something. 
Or they can get reported to groups that can have some control over their 
memberships.  This is in no way a criticism of the Listserve, just recognition 
of the fact that the Listserve can be viewed by anyone, whether they subscribe 
or not. 

Mike Cooper
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> On Sep 27, 2018, at 3:43 PM, ArieGilbert  wrote:
> 
> Great. More sightings that wont get reported. 
> 
> They're doing this in bkln and upstate. 
> 
> Yay. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my T-Mobile 4G LTE Device
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>  Original message 
> From: Mike 
> Date: 9/27/18 2:25 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Patricia Lindsay 
> Cc: NYS Birds 
> Subject: Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County
> 
> I no longer post any birds at this and other locations where I see 
> photographers.  I keep a group list of contacts and limit my postings to 
> them. I’m sure I’m unintentionally leaving people out, and I’ve been throwing 
> the idea of a WhatsApp group around with a few other birders.  There’s 
> currently a 256 member limit on a group, but there are ways around that if we 
> some day exceeded that.  
> The photography stuff is out of control and I won’t contribute to a public 
> group any sightings of birds that are in chaseable locations. 
> 
> Mike Cooper
> Ridge
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Sep 27, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Patricia Lindsay  
> > wrote:
> > 
> >  Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two 
> > Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, 
> > several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get 
> > photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and 
> > slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were 
> > obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and 
> > preen in peace.
> > 
> > I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a 
> > transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to 
> > the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first 
> > time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE 
> > PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this 
> > would not be a pleasant study and left.
> > 
> > I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common 
> > sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo 
> > more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other 
> > birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or 
> > rest as well.  And give other birders a chance to see them! Another 
> > birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the 
> > closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when  the truck, 
> > already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the 
> > birds.
> > 
> > PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance.
> > PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up 
> > near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle.
> > Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in 
> > to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so 
> > constantly.
> > And please have respect for others trying to see the birds.
> > 
> > The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this 
> > morning by Shai.
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Heckscher SP, Suffolk County

[Mike]

I no longer post any birds at this and other locations where I see 
photographers.  I keep a group list of contacts and limit my postings to them. 
I’m sure I’m unintentionally leaving people out, and I’ve been throwing the 
idea of a WhatsApp group around with a few other birders.  There’s currently a 
256 member limit on a group, but there are ways around that if we some day 
exceeded that.  
The photography stuff is out of control and I won’t contribute to a public 
group any sightings of birds that are in chaseable locations. 

Mike Cooper
Ridge

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> On Sep 27, 2018, at 1:53 PM, Patricia Lindsay  wrote:
> 
>  Yesterday I was alerted to six juvenile Pectoral Sandpipers and two 
> Dunlin among the birds visiting the Heckscher puddles. When I arrived, 
> several people with cameras were out of their cars attempting to get 
> photos or get closer looks. These folks were approaching cautiously and 
> slowly, and while the birds did not immediately flush, they were 
> obviously hyper-alert, interfering with their ability to feed, rest and 
> preen in peace.
> 
> I was curious about the age of the Dunlins, as they were in a 
> transitional plumage I suspected to be molting juvs. So I returned to 
> the site this morning, where I was very upset to see, not for the first 
> time, photographers in two cars and a truck positioned RIGHT IN THE 
> PUDDLE, practically on top of and surrounding the birds. I decided this 
> would not be a pleasant study and left.
> 
> I can no longer remain silent on this issue. Folks, where is your common 
> sense, courtesy, and decency? Give these birds a chance! Is your photo 
> more important than the well-being of these migrating birds? Give other 
> birds who may be avoiding this disruption a chance to land and feed or 
> rest as well.  And give other birders a chance to see them! Another 
> birder, scoping the birds from great distance, through gaps among the 
> closely gathered vehicles, was completely blocked when  the truck, 
> already on top of the birds, was re-positioned to be EVEN CLOSER to the 
> birds.
> 
> PLEASE - Stay in your cars! Or scope from a distance.
> PLEASE - Stay out of the main puddles. Especially do not drive up 
> near/onto the grassy berm in the center of the main puddle.
> Please keep your distance --these long-distance migrants are dropping in 
> to rest and preen and feed, impossible with such pressure on them so 
> constantly.
> And please have respect for others trying to see the birds.
> 
> The Dunlin, by the way, are indeed molting juveniles, as confirmed this 
> morning by Shai.
> 
> Patricia Lindsay
> Bay Shore
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[nysbirds-l] Marbled Godwit- Cupsogue CP

[Mike Scheibel]

Now in mud flat lagoon closest to parking lot; also lots of Seaside & Saltmarsh 
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[nysbirds-l] Nighthawks

[Jaklitsch, Mike]

Last fall John Turner and I discussed how interesting it would be to hold a 
Nighthawk count west of the Stone Bridge count to see if there were 
similarities or not.

Keeping this in mind I was able to get out for three days this weekend to see 
what might be flying around northeastern Queens.  I conducted counts on three 
evenings this week as noted below, all from the end of the APEC boardwalk 
overlooking the marsh.  Last night's results were better, although nothing like 
John's results.  Despite starting each night somewhere around 6pm or earlier, 
all birds were seen at 7:09pm or later.

Mike Jaklitsch
Douglaston, NY


31 August 2018 - 75 min, 0 Nighthawks, 3 swifts
2 September 2018 - 112 min, 3 Nighthawks, 3 swifts
3 September 2018 - 94 min, 7 Nighthawks, 18 swifts




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Subject: Results for Stone Bridge Nighthawk Watch - Setauket, NY
From: JOHN TURNER mailto:redk...@optonline.net>>
Date: Mon, 3 Sep 2018 20:05:46 -0400 (EDT)
X-Message-Number: 12

September 2nd - 106 nighthawks, 118 minutes September 3rd - 141 nighthawks, 130 
minutes, including 29 birds feeding over the north end of the north pond at 
dusk.


Stonebridge Nighthawk Watch to date:


717 birds - 1127 minutes - .636 birds per minute


John Turner

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Presumed Hybrid Shorebird at Jamaica Bay

[Mike]

Apologies for including the photos instead of the links- I forgot which group 
and rules I was replying to

Mike Cooper

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> On Aug 27, 2018, at 6:43 PM, Mike  wrote:
> 
> I was more inclined to think that if it’s one or the other,  it might be an 
> oddball Western rather than Semi.  I’ve never seen a Semi with anywhere near 
> the extent of markings on the underparts that this bird shows.  It has well 
> defined chevrons along the flanks and spotting and streaking onto the 
> undertail coverts.  The bill is short, but not particularly blob- tipped. 
> Two photos below from John Gluth and Lisa Nasta showing the bold chevrons and 
> marked UTC
> 
> Mike Cooper
> 
>  
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> Hi Steve,
>>> 
>>> Whenever, I see “hybrid” in any reports I am always tempted to immediately 
>>> take a peep. Despite looking at the images from the field on my phone I 
>>> have to respectfully disagree with the “presumed” hybrid call on the bird 
>>> you referenced. 
>>> 
>>> This to me, is just a Semipalmated Sandpiper (SESA). I agree it is  a tad 
>>> heavily marked below but nothing in the structure or bill is suggestive of 
>>> a Western hybrid with a SESA.
>>> 
>>> I certainly claim no expertise; however, my time having Semipalmated 
>>> Sandpipers in the hand and field observations, I have learned to appreciate 
>>> variation in plumage and size. The plumage on this bird in my opinion is 
>>> within the range of just a straight up Semipalmated Sandpiper.
>>> 
>>> When I have a chance, I will take a look on a bigger screen and perhaps 
>>> provide more details.
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> 
>>> 
>>> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the 
>>> ridicule of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own 
>>> abhorrence." ~ Frederick Douglass
>>> 
>>> 風　Swift as the wind
>>> 林　Quiet as the forest
>>> 火　Conquer like the fire
>>> 山　Steady as the mountain
>>> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
>>> 
>>>> (\__/)
>>>> (= '.'=)
>>>> (") _ (") 
>>>> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 
>>> 
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>>> 
>>> On Aug 27, 2018, at 3:09 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I’ve posted pictures of an interesting Calidris sandpiper that has been on 
>>>> the East Pond at Jamaica Bay. It was first photographed by Peter Post on 
>>>> Saturday and observed by Kevin Karlson (co-author of The Shorebird Guide). 
>>>> I was able to relocate and photograph the bird on Sunday, then discuss it 
>>>> with Kevin. He’s of the opinion that it’s a hybrid between Western and 
>>>> Semipalmated Sandpipers. In simplest terms, he described it as having the 
>>>> upperparts of a Semipalmated and the underparts of a Western. The bird is 
>>>> extensively marked underneath, not only along the flanks, but on the 
>>>> belly. Semipalmated would never be like that. And actually, neither 
>>>> species should be so extensively marked this late. The bill looks like 
>>>> that of a Semipalmated, while the head shows a squared look more typical 
>>>> of a Western. Pictures can be seen at my web site 
>>>> http://stevewalternature.com/  under Birds, Recent Work. 
>>>>  
>>>> For the record, other weekend birds at Jamaica Bay other than the much 
>>>> ballyhooed Hudsonian Godwit, include 1 Caspian Tern on the pond Saturday 
>>>> and 2 fly bys Sunday, at least one juvenile Western Sandpiper both days, 
>>>> many White-rumped Sandpipers, and Stilt Sandpiper now starting to appear 
>>>> in the juvenile form. A Common Raven was seen by many, soaring over the 
>>>> visitor center Saturday.
>>>>  
>>>> The water level is decidedly on the high side, but there’s enough room for 
>>>> birds and people. Getting to the raunt requires walking through water in 
>>>> places. Note that the safest passage is sometimes well away from the edge 
>>>> of the pond. There are two deeper puddles that reach the phragmites in the 
>>>> southeast corner. Do not walk along their edges. And also watch out for 
>>>> the Salt Marsh Fleabane, if you can. These plants are in full bloom now 
>>>> a

Re: [nysbirds-l] Presumed Hybrid Shorebird at Jamaica Bay

[Mike]

I was more inclined to think that if it’s one or the other,  it might be an 
oddball Western rather than Semi.  I’ve never seen a Semi with anywhere near 
the extent of markings on the underparts that this bird shows.  It has well 
defined chevrons along the flanks and spotting and streaking onto the undertail 
coverts.  The bill is short, but not particularly blob- tipped. 
Two photos below from John Gluth and Lisa Nasta showing the bold chevrons and 
marked UTC

Mike Cooper

 


Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> Hi Steve,
>> 
>> Whenever, I see “hybrid” in any reports I am always tempted to immediately 
>> take a peep. Despite looking at the images from the field on my phone I have 
>> to respectfully disagree with the “presumed” hybrid call on the bird you 
>> referenced. 
>> 
>> This to me, is just a Semipalmated Sandpiper (SESA). I agree it is  a tad 
>> heavily marked below but nothing in the structure or bill is suggestive of a 
>> Western hybrid with a SESA.
>> 
>> I certainly claim no expertise; however, my time having Semipalmated 
>> Sandpipers in the hand and field observations, I have learned to appreciate 
>> variation in plumage and size. The plumage on this bird in my opinion is 
>> within the range of just a straight up Semipalmated Sandpiper.
>> 
>> When I have a chance, I will take a look on a bigger screen and perhaps 
>> provide more details.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> 
>> "I prefer to be true to myself, even at the hazard of incurring the ridicule 
>> of others, rather than to be false, and to incur my own abhorrence." ~ 
>> Frederick Douglass
>> 
>> 風　Swift as the wind
>> 林　Quiet as the forest
>> 火　Conquer like the fire
>> 山　Steady as the mountain
>> Sun Tzu  The Art of War
>> 
>>> (\__/)
>>> (= '.'=)
>>> (") _ (") 
>>> Sent from somewhere in the field using my mobile device! 
>> 
>> Andrew Baksh
>> www.birdingdude.blogspot.com
>> 
>> On Aug 27, 2018, at 3:09 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
>> 
>>> I’ve posted pictures of an interesting Calidris sandpiper that has been on 
>>> the East Pond at Jamaica Bay. It was first photographed by Peter Post on 
>>> Saturday and observed by Kevin Karlson (co-author of The Shorebird Guide). 
>>> I was able to relocate and photograph the bird on Sunday, then discuss it 
>>> with Kevin. He’s of the opinion that it’s a hybrid between Western and 
>>> Semipalmated Sandpipers. In simplest terms, he described it as having the 
>>> upperparts of a Semipalmated and the underparts of a Western. The bird is 
>>> extensively marked underneath, not only along the flanks, but on the belly. 
>>> Semipalmated would never be like that. And actually, neither species should 
>>> be so extensively marked this late. The bill looks like that of a 
>>> Semipalmated, while the head shows a squared look more typical of a 
>>> Western. Pictures can be seen at my web site http://stevewalternature.com/  
>>> under Birds, Recent Work. 
>>>  
>>> For the record, other weekend birds at Jamaica Bay other than the much 
>>> ballyhooed Hudsonian Godwit, include 1 Caspian Tern on the pond Saturday 
>>> and 2 fly bys Sunday, at least one juvenile Western Sandpiper both days, 
>>> many White-rumped Sandpipers, and Stilt Sandpiper now starting to appear in 
>>> the juvenile form. A Common Raven was seen by many, soaring over the 
>>> visitor center Saturday.
>>>  
>>> The water level is decidedly on the high side, but there’s enough room for 
>>> birds and people. Getting to the raunt requires walking through water in 
>>> places. Note that the safest passage is sometimes well away from the edge 
>>> of the pond. There are two deeper puddles that reach the phragmites in the 
>>> southeast corner. Do not walk along their edges. And also watch out for the 
>>> Salt Marsh Fleabane, if you can. These plants are in full bloom now and 
>>> adding a touch of beauty to the pond. And if you pay close enough attention 
>>> to the bright pink flowers, you just might be rewarded with the sight of a 
>>> Salt Marsh Skipper.
>>>  
>>>  
>>> Steve Walter
>>> Bayside, NY
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Presumed Hybrid Shorebird at Jamaica Bay

[Mike]

Just to clarify, this bird was found by birders who were coincidentally at the 
East Pond as part of the Great South Bay Audubon field trip.  It stood out as 
being very different, so they photographed it and, when the crowd thinned out 
enough, pointed it out to the festival folks to get their opinions.  

Mike Cooper 
Ridge, NY
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> On Aug 27, 2018, at 3:09 PM, Steve Walter  wrote:
> 
> I’ve posted pictures of an interesting Calidris sandpiper that has been on 
> the East Pond at Jamaica Bay. It was first photographed by Peter Post on 
> Saturday and observed by Kevin Karlson (co-author of The Shorebird Guide). I 
> was able to relocate and photograph the bird on Sunday, then discuss it with 
> Kevin. He’s of the opinion that it’s a hybrid between Western and 
> Semipalmated Sandpipers. In simplest terms, he described it as having the 
> upperparts of a Semipalmated and the underparts of a Western. The bird is 
> extensively marked underneath, not only along the flanks, but on the belly. 
> Semipalmated would never be like that. And actually, neither species should 
> be so extensively marked this late. The bill looks like that of a 
> Semipalmated, while the head shows a squared look more typical of a Western. 
> Pictures can be seen at my web site http://stevewalternature.com/  under 
> Birds, Recent Work. 
>  
> For the record, other weekend birds at Jamaica Bay other than the much 
> ballyhooed Hudsonian Godwit, include 1 Caspian Tern on the pond Saturday and 
> 2 fly bys Sunday, at least one juvenile Western Sandpiper both days, many 
> White-rumped Sandpipers, and Stilt Sandpiper now starting to appear in the 
> juvenile form. A Common Raven was seen by many, soaring over the visitor 
> center Saturday.
>  
> The water level is decidedly on the high side, but there’s enough room for 
> birds and people. Getting to the raunt requires walking through water in 
> places. Note that the safest passage is sometimes well away from the edge of 
> the pond. There are two deeper puddles that reach the phragmites in the 
> southeast corner. Do not walk along their edges. And also watch out for the 
> Salt Marsh Fleabane, if you can. These plants are in full bloom now and 
> adding a touch of beauty to the pond. And if you pay close enough attention 
> to the bright pink flowers, you just might be rewarded with the sight of a 
> Salt Marsh Skipper.
>  
>  
> Steve Walter
> Bayside, NY
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[nysbirds-l] Heckscher State Park Suffolk Co

[Mike]

Despite some pretty loud thunderstorms overnight, there is barely any water in 
the puddles at Heckscher this morning.  The only shorebirds seen during a quick 
drive- through were Killdeers

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Ridge, NY

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[nysbirds-l] Black-bellied Whistling Ducks

[Mike Scheibel]

Continuing this morning at Nissequogue SP; Pond on left side of entrance road.
Mike Scheibel 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Ruff at Heckscher Park - NO (Suffolk Co.)

[Mike]

Probably another successful chase away thanks to the photographers on the scene 
last night who relentlessly chased the bird from one pool to the other despite 
being told that the bird was best observed and photographed from the car.  

Unfortunately the solution may be to no longer post birds to the list until 
after they’re gone. 

Mike Cooper
Ridge, LI

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> On May 24, 2018, at 8:22 AM, Ken F  wrote:
> 
> The previously reported Ruff at Heckscher State Park was not relocated this 
> morning at about 7:00AM. However, it may still be here but becoming more 
> elusive.
> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Wood Sandpiper Timber Point Golf Course now Suffolk Co

[Mike]

Hi Sean,

As you drive into the golf course, the road bends to the right.  A few hundred 
yards in, there’s a left turn that goes to the east marina.  Don’t turn there- 
continue on toward the large building (catering hall).  Just after the marina 
turnoff, (which you didn’t turn on to!) there will be, on your left, a grassy 
area with wet spots and behind that, a golf course pond.  The bird has been 
hanging out around the wet spots there. 

Obviously, for anyone else heading over there- do not walk out onto the grass 
or golf course areas.  

Good luck,
Mike

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> On Apr 17, 2018, at 7:59 AM, Joe Jannsen  wrote:
> 
> Good views at the puddle until the Wood Sandpiper flew with several other 
> birds towards the marsh.
> 
> Joe
> 
> On Apr 17, 2018, at 6:22 AM, Mike  wrote:
> 
>> Previously reported Wood Sandpiper at Timber Point, Suffolk is present now, 
>> Tuesday AM
>> 
>> Mike Cooper
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>> > On Apr 16, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Shaibal Mitra  
>> > wrote:
>> > 
>> > The Wood Sandpiper continued in the rain pools just east of the Timber 
>> > Point entrance road (and just south of the spur road to the East Marina) 
>> > until it was too dark to see.
>> > 
>> > The discovery and identification of this mega rarity was a team effort. I 
>> > was seawatching at Robert Moses SP when Patricia called me to report an 
>> > unfamiliar shorebird. Her puzzlement was my cue to race over to join her, 
>> > along with my seawatching companions Brent Bomkamp and Taylor Sturm. We 
>> > pulled up, predictably, just after the birds had flushed. While I spoke 
>> > with Pat and reviewed some distant photos, Brent and Taylor set out to 
>> > relocate the flock. As I came to the conclusion that it was likely a very 
>> > rare Wood Sandpiper, they re-found the bird. We re-joined them and 
>> > exhilaration ensued!
>> > 
>> > The place where we were watching it was not a good, publicly accessible, 
>> > location, but fortunately the bird soon flew (calling "chip-chip-chip" 
>> > right over us) and returned to the near-ideal place described above, where 
>> > it remained as admirers arrived until it was too dark to see.
>> > 
>> > I'll put some photos up here:
>> > 
>> > https://flic.kr/p/24SZZUa
>> > 
>> > Shai Mitra
>> > Bay Shore
>> > 
>> > From: bounce-122477957-11143...@list.cornell.edu 
>> > [bounce-122477957-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Patricia Lindsay 
>> > [pjlind...@optonline.net]
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>> > Subject: [nysbirds-l] Wood Sandpiper Timber Point Golf Course now Suffolk 
>> > Co
>> > 
>> > Not in marsh, on puddled fairway
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Wood Sandpiper Timber Point Golf Course now Suffolk Co

[Mike]

Previously reported Wood Sandpiper at Timber Point, Suffolk is present now, 
Tuesday AM

Mike Cooper

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> On Apr 16, 2018, at 9:04 PM, Shaibal Mitra  wrote:
> 
> The Wood Sandpiper continued in the rain pools just east of the Timber Point 
> entrance road (and just south of the spur road to the East Marina) until it 
> was too dark to see.
> 
> The discovery and identification of this mega rarity was a team effort. I was 
> seawatching at Robert Moses SP when Patricia called me to report an 
> unfamiliar shorebird. Her puzzlement was my cue to race over to join her, 
> along with my seawatching companions Brent Bomkamp and Taylor Sturm. We 
> pulled up, predictably, just after the birds had flushed. While I spoke with 
> Pat and reviewed some distant photos, Brent and Taylor set out to relocate 
> the flock. As I came to the conclusion that it was likely a very rare Wood 
> Sandpiper, they re-found the bird. We re-joined them and exhilaration ensued!
> 
> The place where we were watching it was not a good, publicly accessible, 
> location, but fortunately the bird soon flew (calling "chip-chip-chip" right 
> over us) and returned to the near-ideal place described above, where it 
> remained as admirers arrived until it was too dark to see.
> 
> I'll put some photos up here:
> 
> https://flic.kr/p/24SZZUa
> 
> Shai Mitra
> Bay Shore
> 
> From: bounce-122477957-11143...@list.cornell.edu 
> [bounce-122477957-11143...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Patricia Lindsay 
> [pjlind...@optonline.net]
> Sent: Monday, April 16, 2018 6:49 PM
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> Subject: [nysbirds-l] Wood Sandpiper Timber Point Golf Course now Suffolk Co
> 
> Not in marsh, on puddled fairway
> 
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Re:[nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: March 24, 2018

[Jaklitsch, Mike]

Came home from the gym to find a group of bluejays around one of my spruce 
trees going ballistic.  It took a bit of work but I found a Long-Eared Owl that 
the Jays eventually flushed.  Photographic evidence available…

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Re:[nysbirds-l] nysbirds-l digest: March 24, 2018

[Jaklitsch, Mike]

Came home from the gym to find a group of bluejays around one of my spruce 
trees going ballistic.  It took a bit of work but I found a Long-Eared Owl that 
the Jays eventually flushed.  Photographic evidence available…

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[nysbirds-l] Red-necked Grebe, West Marina, Long Beach

[Mike Scheibel]

Continuing bird, first seen in the basin and then in state boat channel 

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[nysbirds-l] Eared Grebe - Shinnecock In, Suffolk Co

[Mike McBrien]

There is currently an Eared Grebe on the ocean just west of the jetties at 
Shinnecock Inlet, Suffolk County. The bird is floating slowly west.

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Re:[nysbirds-l] Eared Grebe - Shinnecock In, Suffolk Co

[Mike McBrien]

Moments after pressing send, the Grebe took off, heading west close to shore. 
It seemed to touch down somewhere to the west of the Ponqougue beach bathhouse, 
so it is likely still in the area.

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> On Jan 10, 2018, at 8:44 AM, Mike McBrien  wrote:
> 
> There is currently an Eared Grebe on the ocean just west of the jetties at 
> Shinnecock Inlet, Suffolk County. The bird is floating slowly west.
> 
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Re:[nysbirds-l] [ebirdsnyc] Greater White-fronted Goose - Alley Pond Park, Queens

[Jaklitsch, Mike]

As found and reported by Eric & Jeff yesterday, this morning’s tally included 
those noted below in Jeff/Eric’s note (including the GWF goose) plus the 
following:

2 buffleheads
4 mallards
2 mute swans
1 RB Merg
1 Coot
1 Pied Billed Grebe
1 Snow goose
1 Ring necked Duck

Good birding,
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Found this afternoon by Eric Miller in the pond by Douglaston Parkway and 
the L.I.E. The bird was still on the pond with many Canadas when we left at 
4PM. Other notable species include Redhead, Lesser Scaup and Rusty Blackbird.

Jeff Ritter

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[nysbirds-l] Barrows Goldeneye - Bayville, Nassau Co

[Mike McBrien]

I just recently had a female Barrows Goldeneye in a flock of 60+ goldeneye off 
of Oak Neck Beach in Bayville.  Parts of the flock took off to the east and I 
haven’t been able to relocated the Barrows in a brief search of the nearby 
coast, though it is likely still nearby.

Additionally, there is an hatch year goldeneye with a very stubby bill in the 
flock that might provide some interesting study.

Best,
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[nysbirds-l] Mountain Bluebird RMSP Suffolk

[Mike]

Being seen in and off about 10 minutes walk past the golf course at Democrat 
Point on the inlet side

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Re: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No

[Mike]

Well, for starters the first sentence of the original post revealed the 
location of a Snowy Owl.  And while this discussion stayed civil, it’s probably 
the only time I’ve ever seen it happen that a “control the ___” fill in the 
blank with swans, geese, cats, etc managed to remain civil.  So kudos to those 
involved for not going off the rails.  I assumed the worst and was proven 
wrong.  

Mike

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> On Dec 5, 2017, at 2:28 PM, brian.whip...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> I’m not sure that Chris would have to intervene here. This discussion is one 
> of the reasons this list exists. Though its primary purpose is dissemination 
> of sightings, take a look at this paragraph from the listserve rules:
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> Questions and limited discussion on topics such as bird behavior, 
> identification, conservation, and distribution, especially as these subjects 
> relate to wild birds in and around New York State, are welcomed and 
> encouraged.
> 
> Encouraged! Thanks for the thoughtful discussion, everyone. I felt one way at 
> the beginning and another way by the end. Good stuff.
> 
> Brian
> 
>> On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:32 PM Rick  wrote:
>> Quick agreement with Shai -- by "non-migratory" I didn't mean "feral", just
>> populations that in the past may have been migratory but have now become
>> sedentary / local, in some or all seasons.
>> 
>> -Original Message-
>> From: bounce-122103624-3714...@list.cornell.edu
>> [mailto:bounce-122103624-3714...@list.cornell.edu] On Behalf Of Shaibal
>> Mitra
>> Sent: Monday, December 04, 2017 10:22 PM
>> To: NYSBIRDS (NYSBIRDS-L@cornell.edu) 
>> Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No
>> 
>> As everyone so far has contributed in good faith, and given that this
>> listserv is devoted to NYS birds of all kinds, not just rare, why not
>> discuss?
>> 
>> My perception is that waterfowl are thriving above and beyond all other
>> ecological guilds. The explosion in Canada Goose numbers is not attributable
>> to the feral component; it is the northern, natural populations that are
>> expanding under climate change. In general, we have been finding ducks and
>> geese in tremendous abundance and diversity throughout NYS in recent years.
>> If Mute Swans are a problem, it is a very small one compared to many other
>> threats to our environment. And, as Rick points out, our environment has
>> been abused so badly for so long that a lot of what is still here is in a
>> co-dependent relationship with past abuse.
>> 
>> For example, there are legitimate (mostly non-avian) rationales undergirding
>> the recent fascination with undoing Long Island's ubiquitous, centuries-old
>> dams. While possibly restoring fish runs, this policy would also drain
>> innumerable South Shore ponds, probably removing many thousands of ducks
>> from Long Island--more than Mute Swans ever displaced. Arguably these would
>> be ducks that "shouldn't have been here anyway," but what if the fish
>> populations don't recover either? But this is just one example. Should we
>> invest in the Sisyphean eradication of multiflora rose? Honeysuckle?
>> Phragmites? The answers to these various massive-scale questions range from
>> "probably not" to "maybe."
>> 
>> In contrast, I think the expenditure of time and money on eradicating Mute
>> Swans is entirely misplaced. The potential benefits are demonstrably small,
>> and the public relations costs are likely significant--and this is not to
>> mention the logistical costs. Why not use those resources and whatever
>> public good will remains in this dark age to buy xxx hectares of
>> scabby-looking oak woods? If we don't, all we'll have are sterile
>> creaks--without dams but also without ponds--built up to the edges, and
>> without any woods either.
>> 
>> Shai Mitra
>> Bay Shore
>> 
>> From: bounce-122103568-3714...@list.cornell.edu
>> [bounce-122103568-3714...@list.cornell.edu] on behalf of Rick
>> [rc...@nyc.rr.com]
>> Sent: Monday, December 4, 2017 9:22 PM
>> To: 'Tim Dunn'; 'Frederick Kedenburg'
>> Cc: 'Michael Cooper'; 'NYS BIRDS'
>> Subject: RE: [nysbirds-l] [NFBirds Report 3221] Snowy Owl, No
>> 
>> First, kudos to Chris T-H for keeping order in our rangy group. A laudable
>> task, not simple.
>> 
>> Second, the fact that one invasive (Mute Swans) may be more of less
>> destructive than another (non-migratory "barnyard" Canada Geese) is a
&

Re: [nysbirds-l] Neotropical birds in the far north

[Mike]

I don’t know if this is part of the crazy outbreak we’re seeing here in the 
northeast, but yesterday a Hepatic Tanager was photo’d at a feeder in the Upper 
Peninsula of Michigan!

Mike Cooper
Ridge, LI, NY


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> On Dec 3, 2017, at 9:51 AM, Anders Peltomaa  wrote:
> 
> HAMMOND'S FLYCATCHER  South of Humming Tombstone #birdcp via @NYNYbirder
> 
> Sunday, today. Now!
> 
> Anders Peltomaa
> Mannen
> 
> 
>> On Dec 2, 2017 10:14 AM, "Anders Peltomaa"  wrote:
>> The Flycatcher was found again at 9:45 and seen will by many for about 20 
>> minutes. Now MIA again.
>> 
>> Anders Peltomaa
>> Manhattan
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Fwd: [SINaturaList] Ash-throated Flycatcher and Clay-colored sparrow

[Mike]

Both birds were still present around 3pm. Ash-throated Flycatcher had moved a 
bit closer to parking lot seem along left side of main trail in small trees. 
Bird was seen well and heard vocalizing a bit.

-Mike Shanley

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> On Nov 23, 2017, at 2:31 PM, Isaac Grant  wrote:
> 
> See below
> 
> Isaac Grant
> Senior Loan Officer
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> Begin forwarded message:
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>> From: "SINaturalist sinatural...@yahoo.com [SINaturaList]" 
>> 
>> Date: November 23, 2017 at 1:08:31 PM EST
>> To: sinatural...@yahoogroups.com
>> Subject: [SINaturaList] Ash-throated Flycatcher and Clay-colored sparrow
>> Reply-To: sinatural...@yahoogroups.com
>> 
>> dave eib and I found an Ash-throated Flycatcher and Clay-colored sparrow at 
>> Mt Loretto in the Sparrow Bowl area around 12:45 today...Issac and Anthony 
>> are here as well. 
>> 
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Pelham bay

[Mike]

Yeah, unfortunately, they’ve done this at Heckscher State Park and at Smith’s 
Point, Suffolk County Park. The Heckscher puddles are not as good as they used 
to be, but they still attract some birds. The ones at Smiths Point are gone.  

Mike Cooper
Ridge, NY

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> On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:32 AM, Steven Sachs  wrote:
> 
> I am watching as they are filling in the puddles in the parking lot at 
> orchard beach. They got nothing better to do in the city of New York? These 
> puddles are important for local birds to get fresh water. There have been 
> some rarities in these puddles recently too I understand. I don't get it
> Steve sachs
> Tarrytown
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[nysbirds-l] Ruddy Shelduck at Avon DEC pond

[Wasilco, Mike R (DEC)]

Assuming the bird I saw this morning is the same one that I saw in flight on 
Wednesday, the possible Black-bellied Whistling Duck I reported, is actually a 
Ruddy Shelduck.  I got good looks and decent photos of it swimming on pond 
early this morning.

Checklist below.

Twin Cedars Environmental Area (DEC pond), Avon, Livingston, New York, US Nov 
3, 2017 7:55 AM - 8:43 AM
Protocol: Traveling
0.2 mile(s)
13 species

Snow Goose  1
Cackling Goose  5
Canada Goose  6000
Ruddy Shelduck  1 photos attached
Mallard  2
Green-winged Teal  3
Ruddy Duck  1
Northern Harrier  1
Ring-billed Gull  2
Blue Jay  3
American Crow  3
European Starling  15
Song Sparrow  6

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[nysbirds-l] Possible Black-bellied Whistling Duck Avon DEC Pond, Livingston County

[Wasilco, Mike R (DEC)]

I just had a bird fly out of the roosting geese at the pond here at the Avon 
DEC office that my first impression was that it was a weird goose with a 
chestnut colored body with black toward the rear, pink bill, and black wings 
with a prominent white stripe down the greater and lesser coverts on the upper 
wings.  Looking in my bird guides the only thing that matches that color 
pattern is Black-bellied Whistling Duck, but my impression was that this bird 
was closer to the size of a small goose than a duck.  The bird circled the pond 
a couple of times before flying off to the north in same direction and the 
goose flocks were departing.  Also present on the pond were ~4,000 Canada Geese 
and a single Snow Goose.

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[nysbirds-l] Lesser Black- backed Gulls- RMSP Suffolk

[Mike]

A scan through the Gull flock in the parking lot at Field 5 RMSP yielded at 
least 26 Lessers.   

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[nysbirds-l] Dune Road, Suffolk County

[Mike]

Highlights of a morning driving and walking Dune Road from Shinnecock to 
Cupsogue included a single shearwater, probably Cory’s, at Shinnecock along 
with dozens of Gannets and about 10 Royal Terns milling around. A whale 
cruising by offshore was probably a Humpback. 

At Triton Lane I saw about 8 sharp-tailed Sparrows- all that I had decent looks 
at appeared to be Nelson’s, while over at Cupsogue the five or so that I had 
decent looks at all appeared to be Salt Marsh. Photos are on the NY Birders 
Facebook page.  An American Bittern was in the marshes near Triton, otherwise a 
scattering of the usual suspects. 

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Ridge, NY

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Re: [nysbirds-l] Long Island Rarity - Pileated Woodpecker (second-hand report)

[Mike]

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> On Oct 4, 2017, at 2:02 PM, Pat Palladino  wrote:
> 
> An ebird report has been posted indicating that a Pileated Woodpecker 
> (photographs of the bird were also posted) was observed yesterday afternoon 
> in the "Jayne's Hill Woods." Jayne's Hill is the highest point on Long Island 
> and sits on the east side of Sweet Hollow Road across from West Hills Park in 
> Huntington, Suffolk County (not too far from the Walt Whitman Mall). For 
> those reading this post upstate, while this bird is fairly common in a large 
> part of New York, it is non-existent (except for maybe this one) on Long 
> Island..  
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Re: [nysbirds-l] Clay-colored Sparrow- Dune Rd Suffolk

[Mike]

Clay- colored Sparrow this afternoon at Tiana Beach- north side of Ocean 
parking lot. 

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[nysbirds-l] Brown.Booby Montauk now 9:10 AM

[Mike]

At the south end of Lake Montauk perched on mast

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