[obrolan-bandar] Re: Bandarisme KASAT MATA

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
Mau tidak DIBANDARIN gimana Mbah? La wong secara FA sangat mendukungÂ… Dalam artian: - Kondisi NPL yg TIDAK BERUBAH - Penyelesaian BAD DEBT yg tak kunjung selesai Kalau toh sudah SEPAKAT apa pasti BAYAR? - Masalah PP tentang ASET BUMN dan negara yg molor terus; walaupun ada keputusan MA; apakah

[obrolan-bandar] masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Handika Wisnu
Saya saat ini megang saham BUMI dalam jumlah yg lumayan banyak (menurut saya) karena dulu terpikat dgn janji mo bagi dividen Rp 200/saham.Nah, yg mo saya tanyain...apakah BUMI masih layak dipertahankan ato tidak?Soalnya hasil dari cut loss ini akan saya alihkan untuk invest options di US market

Re: [obrolan-bandar] masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Halim Mintareja
SELL and FORGET.. kecuali anda mau berjudi.. soal option... saya tidak mengerti On 9/26/06, Handika Wisnu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Saya saat ini megang saham BUMI dalam jumlah yg lumayan banyak (menurut saya) karena dulu terpikat dgn janji mo bagi dividen Rp 200/saham.Nah, yg mo saya

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Bandarisme KASAT MATA

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Santo Vibby
Sorry baru balik meeting... support BMRI cukup kuat di 2200 koq.. semoga membantu mbah :D - Original Message - From: jsx_consultant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 9:58 AM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Bandarisme KASAT MATA

[obrolan-bandar] The Fed akan menurunkan suku bunga (Sumber : IQPlus)

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Sudeswanto
IQP, (26/9) - Para ekonom di AS percaya bahwa The Fed akan menurunkan suku bunga awal tahun 2007 dari 5,25 % pada saat ini, investor sudah bersiap-siap bahwa Bank akan menurunkan suku bunga pinjaman mulai tahun depan. Fed pertama kali menaikkan suku bunga pada 2004 lalu. Goldman berharap Fed

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik up_trends
maaf Pak, kalo boleh saya kasih saran, setiap saham ada sifat, gak bisa di percaya research berita berita, wong berita div 200 merger , jual kpc bisa dibuat diingkari. gak taunya hasilnya BIG FAT 0. nah sekarang dapat pinjaman. itu beneran ato boongan? yg tau cuman satu. yah itu si

RE: [obrolan-bandar] masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Sudeswanto
kayanya BUMI dan ENRG boleh dibeli dhe.. kayanya ^^ hihihi -Original Message-From: Jamal Nasution [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 26 September 2006 13:43To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: Re: [obrolan-bandar] masih layakkah BUMI? klo cp nya beli banyak

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Are you still WATCHING your monitor ?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Sudeswanto
pake google earth yah mbah? ^^ hehehe -Original Message-From: Embah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 26 September 2006 15:16To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: [obrolan-bandar] Are you still WATCHING your monitor ? Are you still WATCHING your monitor ?Embah

[obrolan-bandar] BI : Pelemahan nilai tukar IDR tidak perlu dikhawatirkan (Sumber : IQPlus)

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Sudeswanto
IQp, (26/9) - Pelemahan nilai tukar rupiah yang kini berada di atas level 9.200 per dolar AS tak perlu dikhawatirkan karena pelemahan rupiah itu bersamaan dengan melemahnya mata uang regional lainnya.Hal tersebut disampaikan Deputi Gubernur Senior BI Miranda S Goeltom usai rapat

RE: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Are you still WATCHING your monitor ?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Sudeswanto
terimakasih pak ^^ agak sedikit melek IT..tapi mata ogah melek liet monitor BEJ..bikin ngantuk ^^ hehehe -Original Message-From: jsx_consultant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 26 September 2006 15:36To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.comSubject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: Are you

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Are you still WATCHING your monitor ?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
Kalau saya yg di foto; warna biru itu berubah jadi abu-abu Mbah. Soalnya pulang KDT belon balik ke kantor... Lagi lihat2 korban LAPENDOS yg musti lebih sabarr di bulan puasa sekarang... Hehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, jsx_consultant jsx- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pak Sudes

Re: [obrolan-bandar] masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Jamal Nasution
klo cp nya beli banyak berarti mo kesana tapi klo belinya cuma dikit berarti barang banyak nyangkut itu riset kapan? sesudah pembatalan KPC ya - Original Message - From: Handika Wisnu To: Bandar Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 12:43 PM Subject:

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Karno Edy
Asetnya BUMI keliatannya masih menarik dhe.. ie :Arutmin, KPC etc... tapi manajemennya,,yakkhh. - Original Message - From: up_trends To: obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 3:54 PM Subject: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik up_trends
what goes around comes around. boongin berita di bumi, ketimpa sial lumpur enrg. minum deh tuh lumpur sampe kenyang. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Jamal Nasution [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: klo cp nya beli banyak berarti mo kesana tapi klo belinya cuma dikit berarti barang banyak

[obrolan-bandar] Re: Are you still WATCHING your monitor ?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik jsx_consultant
Pak Sudes EMANG melek IThehehe --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Sudeswanto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: pake google earth yah mbah? ^^ hehehe -Original Message- From: Embah [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 September 2006 15:16 To:

[obrolan-bandar] BUMI Bantah Dapat Pinjaman US$1.2 Milyar

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Sudeswanto
PT Bumi Resources Tbk (BUMI) membantah sudah mendapatkan dana pinjaman sebesar US$1.2 milyar untuk melanjutkan program membeli kembali (buy back) saham perseroan. Manajemen BUMI dalam laporannya kepada Bursa Efek Jakarta (BEJ) menyatakan, yang benar adalah perseroan menggelar road show

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik ji3soe
Kalau anda nasabah CP minta ngomong aja sama analisnya yang bilang fair value bumi itu 1000 lebih. Tanya dia gimana cara ngitungnya apa asumsi yang mendasarinya dan bagaimana bisa mencapai ke angka tersebut. Nilai suatu saham baru bisa dihitung apabila perusahaan sudah menerapkan Good

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik ariabela
Sepertinya, pade kalah 'senior' semua sama yg punyanya, ya - nanti lama2 juga akan terlupakan/terselesaikan dg sendirinya... Aria Asetnya BUMI keliatannya masih menarik dhe.. ie :Arutmin, KPC etc... tapi manajemennya,,yakkhh. - Original Message - From: up_trends To:

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Are you still WATCHING your monitor ?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik tjendrasa
Strategy bagus Bah, good goggle earth trick, hehehe Are you still WATCHING your monitor ? Embah sent KUTA picture seen from THE SKY.. Berbaring dipantai sambil liat cewe ASING (bukan broker ASING lagi)... hehehe... NO MORE price chart, JUST FUN and RELAX... Coba dikeker, keliatan

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
well... come on...be realistic... and please separate corporate action and assets as of September 30 2006 (next 9-month earnings), BUMI's assets should remain at IDR16.99 trillion, compared with PTBA of ONLY IDR2.68 trillion, or INCO of IDR15.23 trillion or ANTM of IDR6.6 trillion.If

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Are you still WATCHING your monitor ?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
let's seeI am warming it up a bit today.and the next dayshehehehe[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Strategy bagus Bah, good goggle earth trick, heheheAre you still WATCHING your monitor ? Embah sent KUTA picture seen from THE SKY.. Berbaring dipantai sambil liat cewe ASING (bukan broker

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik up_trends
the problem is are u strong enough to see other stocks rally giving u a whooping 20%+ gain while bumi ... :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well... come on...be realistic... and please separate corporate action and assets as of

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
don't have any problem with my investment...my problem now is that i don't understand withwhat you said... peaceup_trends [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the problem is are u strong enough to see other stocks rally giving u a whooping 20%+ gain while bumi ... :)--- In

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Are you still WATCHING your monitor ?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik danny alexander
Wah keliatan mbah lagi santai ama bule hehehehhe :))On 9/26/06, Embah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Are you still WATCHING your monitor ? Embah sent KUTA picture seen from THE SKY.. Berbaring dipantai sambil liat cewe ASING (bukan broker ASING lagi)... hehehe...

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik danny alexander
Ini link nya pak semoga membantu :D http://www.klubsaham.com/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=52mode=threadorder=0thold=0 On 9/26/06, ji3soe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kalau anda nasabah CP minta ngomong aja sama analisnya yang bilang fair value

Balasan: [obrolan-bandar] Re: A treasure of Stock Trading Books

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik mircmonkee
Yoi boi ni papas ni nada entendi pero eso es ok que cavo no te digo que hay i have bajado todos los ebooks. pero eso no es the question U got off the main topic i asked Have those corrupted files been fixed? either way gracias por todo ur work y hora to find un impridor..ay arriba muchachos..y

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik up_trends
I'm guessing u have bumi? well good luck :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't have any problem with my investment...my problem now is that i don't understand with what you said... peace up_trends [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik up_trends
2 words opportunity cost. --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't have any problem with my investment...my problem now is that i don't understand with what you said... peace up_trends [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the problem is are

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik up_trends
I'm guessing u have bumi? well good luck :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: don't have any problem with my investment...my problem now is that i don't understand with what you said... peace up_trends [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
nopebut i may be looking at heavily investing some big chunk of my fund and may forecast for BUMI fair value is more than 1,200 rups..but, what u said reminded me to an event when i told people that Telkom's fair value is at 9,000 rups...at that times Telkom's share price was at

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik up_trends
haha, yeah rite, unfortunately, i was wise enough to invest in untr at 2500 at that time --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nopebut i may be looking at heavily investing some big chunk of my fund and may forecast for BUMI fair value

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik up_trends
funny when some people said this stock is good but actually they still dont invest in it. if u are sure enough bumi is going to 1200, why u still don't have bumi? :) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nopebut i may be looking at heavily

[obrolan-bandar] Re: info peraturan NPL Bank= BBNI vs BMRI

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
Walaupun berganti baju yg jelas BBNI sudah mencapai 2020 hari ini... Kalau sudah begini para analis akan BEREBUTAN meng-cover.. Yang jelas Welcome to the Jungle... Good Job; Bozz! --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, oentoeng_q [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Banyak trader menunggu

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
not that funnyi stll have some at an average of IDR35so...take an easy... heheup_trends [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: funny when some people said this stock is good but actually they still dont invest in it. if u are sure enough bumi is going to 1200, why u still don't have bumi? :)---

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik redyherinantoalb
( haha, yeah rite, unfortunately, i was wise enough to invest in untr at 2500 at that time ) and sell it at 2700? Joke... joke... :D It's call Edi Tansil... or goyang dikit udah keluar :)) Joke aa... saya juga sering gitu kok Redy Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
hehe...so rude. no wonder...edy1276 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: nopebut i may be looking at heavily investing some big chunk of my fundTong Kosong Nyaring Bunyinya..not that funnyi stll have some at an average of IDR35so...take an easy...Menjilat ludah sendiri--- In

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik redyherinantoalb
That's not funny I konw someone still hold BUMI at avarage 30 rupiah 50.000 lot. I lost BUMI once, but with it's price now I considering to take it as long term investment althoung it will break mu oath not to buy Bakries anymore... :D Redy --- In

Re: [obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Frederick Schubert
sharing infos in this milist is just like against a bunch of mob...who don't want to be criticised and could not accept someone's else opinion... i would rather have a battle in the marketbut, i know people like pak edy1276 and effendi ang..? hehe are very smart and have big

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik redyherinantoalb
Iya di dunia saham kalo di real world seh ada aja... :)) Time will tell about BUMI... but I agreed with Frederick about it there is no problem at all about BUMI profitability... that the most important I don't know what scenario, but I waited it below 700... Let see... Redy

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik oentoeng_q
Sangat menarik... Ngikutin Obrolan (Long Term) Investor vs Trader yg pengen ketemu di BUMI. Cheers --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, redyherinantoalb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's not funny I konw someone still hold BUMI at avarage 30 rupiah 50.000 lot. I lost BUMI once,

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik edy1276
Sorry.. No heart feeling please.. I was rude before. We make friends not enemy in capital market. More friends more idea. Cheers 334 --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, Frederick Schubert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: sharing infos in this milist is just like against a bunch of mob...who don't

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik up_trends
asal jgn nanti diganti wait dibawah 600 yah pak?:) --- In obrolan-bandar@yahoogroups.com, redyherinantoalb [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Iya di dunia saham kalo di real world seh ada aja... :)) Time will tell about BUMI... but I agreed with Frederick about it there is no problem at

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik redyherinantoalb
Take it easy Frederick, please stay posting here, I think you give this milis new perpektif, actually I compared your advice with real world, and it' so accurate last time when everyone said the index will be down... you said the contrary, and you are right... and your explanation so

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik up_trends
terus terang saya gak tahan kalo diiris bandar 5%aja. itu saya bilang bukan investing, suicide is more appropriate. gmn tanggung jawab fund manager reksadana gimana bisa compete dgn fund fund yg lain? gini aja deh, kalo bumi bisa naik 70% saya yakin ada alternative saham yg bisa naik 100% or

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik redyherinantoalb
You buy Jaka, CNKO, RAJA, SUBA etc... that suicide in case of BUMI I think it's because Lapindo and Bakrie negatif sentiment when it's over... and it will then BUMI will be bright again... it's the biggest and best best mining in Indonesia even the world PTBA is peanut compare

[obrolan-bandar] Daily Technical Analysis Research (Sterling 27 September 2006 12.00 GMT +7)

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik Aditya
Daily Technical Analysis Research (Sterling 27 September 2006 12.00 GMT +7) Sterling diperkirakan masih akan berlanjut melemah pada perdagangan hari ini akibat sentimen positif market atas naikknya data consumer confidence US kemarin.. Market akan cenderung flat sampai dengan pembukaan market

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik up_trends
semua fundamental bagus bahkan yg spt anda bilang lebih bagus dr ptba. satu pertanyaan saya. kok ptba harganya bisa lebih mahal yah? bahkan warrantnya harganya dulu bisa lebih tinggi dr BUMI? harganya salah?kemahalan kah warrantnya, apa investornya salah ? ato perusahaannya yg salah? ato

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik redyherinantoalb
Iya juga seh he he he... memang PTBA lebih mahal dari harga maupun PER nya, padahal perusahaannya belum tentu lebih bagus, so saya gak mau masuk situ... cukup ikut dari 2000 (waktu masih murah) ke 3rban (mahal booo, sell sell sell, besok kalau relnya jadi buy buy buy) so, anda

[obrolan-bandar] Re: masih layakkah BUMI?

2006-09-26 Terurut Topik kiki
ikutan yahehekalo saya belum punya BUMI dan hendak invest di BUMI, saya memilih entry point di IDR 950-980... sebelum nilai segitu saya lebih memilih TLKM atau ANTM, dengan P/E 5.37x dan net income H1 yang naikserta FENI III yang akan jalan lagi.. rasanya lebih menjanjikan.tapi