Hi,
i have send a message to dev@api and dev@extensions mailing lists to
announce the EOL of this lists in the near future and to invite people to
join this list for further discussion. To make it easier to follow specific
discussions on api and extension relevant topics i would like to add 2 new
On 8/30/2011 18:37, Mark Thomas wrote:
Enjoy.
Any problems, please create an infrastructure Jira issue against the
Bugzilla component.
Mark
Not _quite_ on topic, but there is a closely-related service that
receives crash-dumps. (I was just reminded of this when 3.4-dev crashed.)
I will
On 31.08.2011 10:02, Shane Curcuru wrote:
Great discussions, thanks all.
On 8/30/2011 8:46 PM, Peter Junge wrote:
Hi Eike,
Am 31.08.2011 00:09, schrieb Eike Rathke:
Hi Peter,
On Tuesday, 2011-08-30 22:58:38 +0800, Peter Junge wrote:
[1]
BTW, the old Bugzilla is moaning in red letters that it is now
read-only, and doesn't have a forwarding URL. Somebody with admin
privileges at OO.o should fix that.
+1
Is this a final address? What's happen with old URL when Oracle will halted its
server?
That will be better to have an
On Saturday, 3 September 2011, Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org wrote:
...
I'm not too familiar with SVN. Is there a way to check them in, without
checking out the whole content of the AOOo website beforehand? That would
certainly take ages with the connection I have in Beijing.
You can
Am 09/03/2011 05:11 AM, schrieb Pedro F. Giffuni:
--- On Fri, 9/2/11, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote:
Is it worth contacting the authors of these dictionaries to
see if they would consider giving it a license we can use?
Simply +1.
Deleting something is easy. However, just asking could
The Apache OpenOffice.org PPMC has reached a lazy consensus to recommend
that the trademark permission be granted to BHV publishing GmbH. Hence,
I would like to ask an appropriate officer of the Apache Foundation to
grant the trademark permission as proposed below. Mr. Ralf Kraft of BHV
is on
Am 09/03/2011 04:39 AM, schrieb Pedro F. Giffuni:
Hi;
I went through the early LibreOffice archives
checking which issues from our database they
considered for inclusion.
I have to say it was a GREAT idea to start
from the tip of the Hg development tree as
most fixes already appear closed
--- On Sat, 9/3/11, Marcus (OOo) marcus.m...@wtnet.de wrote:
--- On Fri, 9/2/11, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org
wrote:
Is it worth contacting the authors of these dictionaries to
see if they would consider giving it a license we can use?
Simply +1.
No need to vote.. just do it (TM).
Hi Marcus;
The exact flag in bugzilla is 3.4_release_blocker.
Not including *ALL* these 24 bugs for the next release
would be like saying to our contributors that we don't
care about them. We are talking about people that
spent *their* time coding and gave the preference
to contribute to
I agree that participants on discuss@oo.o should be invited to come to
ooo-users@i.a.o.
Can we be more diplomatic in our announcements over there? The one at
users@oo.o on creation of the ooo-users@i.a.o list did not go over very well
and was a lightning rod for some vocal participants there.
I believe there was discussion on an old thread here. Maybe create an issue so
we don't lose it again?
Pedro noticed this in a 2011-06-16T02:22Z post on Re:Bootstrapping a Build
Pedro made a Myspell suggestion (with that subject) on 2011-06-25T18:14Z but
some difficulties came up about
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Pedro F. Giffuni giffu...@tutopia.com wrote:
Hi Marcus;
The exact flag in bugzilla is 3.4_release_blocker.
Not including *ALL* these 24 bugs for the next release
would be like saying to our contributors that we don't
care about them. We are talking about
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
I agree that participants on discuss@oo.o should be invited to come to
ooo-users@i.a.o.
Can we be more diplomatic in our announcements over there? The one at
users@oo.o on creation of the ooo-users@i.a.o
On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 11:56 PM, Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org wrote:
On 03.09.2011 11:00, Rob Weir wrote:
I've been going through the archives of the existing
us...@openoffice.org and disc...@openoffice.org. I cannot tell them
apart. They cover the kinds of questions and topics. Maybe
By we I meant anyone who is seen, over there, as representing the Apache ooo
project or is reporting on the fate of oo.o as viewed from the Apache ooo
project. There's a lot of sensitivity over there, probably more than we have
seen expressed here.
Please go ahead. I have the bugzilla
To help prioritize the list migration efforts, I've collected numbers
from the legacy OOo lists. Looking at 2011 posts, year to date, these
are the average posts/day for the most-used lists.
I've arbitrarily cut-off the lost at lists having more than one post
every other day. There are 332
Thanks for doing that, Kay.
It never hurts to have a backup, or two or three or ... [;).
-Original Message-
From: Kay Schenk [mailto:kay.sch...@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, September 02, 2011 13:38
To: OOo Apache
Subject: [WWW] native lang sites moved to my apache area
Just an FYI (and I
Interesting data.
I think we should let the NL lists know about the English-language counterparts
on i.a.o, using the native language if possible, but I don't think we should
regard our en lists as substitutes.
The only safe way I know to do that would be to have a simple-English statement
Am 01.09.2011 08:32, schrieb eric b:
Do you build mozilla from sources, or do you use pre-built binaries ?
In the Apache world OOo is built without mozilla by default.
--enable-pch speeds up the build by at least 20%.
I never used this option. I understand pch as pre-compiled headers
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
By we I meant anyone who is seen, over there, as representing the Apache
ooo project or is reporting on the fate of oo.o as viewed from the Apache ooo
project. There's a lot of sensitivity over there, probably
Am 03.09.2011 04:49, schrieb Rob Weir:
Also, someone please close Bugs 96705 and 113874,
they have dictionaries under a copyleft license so
we won't be including them into Apache OpenOffice.
Is it worth contacting the authors of these dictionaries to see if
they would consider giving it a
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Interesting data.
I think we should let the NL lists know about the English-language
counterparts on i.a.o, using the native language if possible, but I don't
think we should regard our en lists as
--- On Sat, 9/3/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
...
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote:
Hi Marcus;
The exact flag in bugzilla is 3.4_release_blocker.
Not including *ALL* these 24 bugs for the next
release
would be like saying to our contributors that we
1. Yes, the condensation within language groups is a good idea.
2. I meant the dual-language posts in the case where we notify folks on the NL
groups about the English language ooo-*.i.a.o lists now. And I meant for
notices on the current NL lists. I think another thing to include in such
2011.09.03. 18:40 keltezéssel, Rob Weir írta:
To help prioritize the list migration efforts, I've collected numbers
from the legacy OOo lists. Looking at 2011 posts, year to date, these
are the average posts/day for the most-used lists.
I've arbitrarily cut-off the lost at lists having more
Am 03.09.11 19:23, schrieb Pedro F. Giffuni:
--- On Sat, 9/3/11, Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org wrote:
...
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:42 AM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote:
Hi Marcus;
The exact flag in bugzilla is 3.4_release_blocker.
Not including *ALL* these 24 bugs for the next
release
would be like
Hello Cyril,
We do not know about translation in native language yet. We do not know here
about the pootle server.
A question for you:
Do you also take care of fr.ooo mailing lists? Do you know who does?
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: ooofo...@free.fr
On 01/09/2011 Rob Weir wrote:
Good point. Maybe we can get a fixed footer to occur on the user list
emails, just 2 or 3 lines ...
1) How to unsubscribe to the list
2) Where to report bugs
3) Where the support forums are
4) File attachments not supported, so here's where to go to share a file
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Hello Cyril,
We do not know about translation in native language yet. We do not know here
about the pootle server.
Speak for yourself, Dennis. We have several list participants here
who know about Pootle.
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 4:52 PM, FR web forum o...@athena.apache.org wrote:
Dennis,
We do not know here about the pootle server.
I'm very surprised by this. Oracle did not make to transfer all resources to
ASF?
We know about Pootle. If you look at our migration plan you see it
one the list
Kay,
Do you have commit rights to the overall static pages on the opendocument.org
site? Do you known anyone here who does?
With the move of bugzilla to apache.org, there are a number of pages on the
site that are now incorrect. They will also mislead users (e.g., asking new
ones to
De : Rob Weir robw...@apache.org
À : ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.hamil...@acm.org
Envoyé le : Samedi 3 Septembre 2011 22h53
Objet : Re: [Discuss] Lost in translation
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
Pedro F. Giffuni wrote:
Neapolitan is classified as a dialect, not a language, for
good reasons.
It's in ISO 639-2 so it's a language, and it's distinct from Italian.
Among the local languages spoken in Italy, we already fully support the
four variants of Sardinian according to ISO 639-3
I meant the pootle system that was tied into the openoffice.org site. It is
not something we are accountable for here (but it is good that it is on our
list of things to figure out how to migrate).
I was not expressing ignorance of the system, but of the situation. Note that
I said the
On 09/03/2011 09:49 AM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
Thanks for doing that, Kay.
It never hurts to have a backup, or two or three or ... [;).
Well mostly I did this because I wanted to use them for my little project.
However, I can do the other areas (Accepted and Incubator) as well. No
On 09/03/2011 02:05 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote:
Kay,
Do you have commit rights to the overall static pages on the
opendocument.org site? Do you known anyone here who does?
No, sorry. I've changed the subject on this post to see if someone else
can be of assistance.
With the move of
As far as I know, any change to the pootle service on OO.o is not something the
Apache ooo project had anything to do with.
Unfortunately, Eric Bachard and anyone else we can find does not have
administrative access to the fr.ooo mailing lists.
- Dennis
DETAILS
Oracle is transferring
On 04/09/2011, at 2:40, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
To help prioritize the list migration efforts, I've collected numbers
from the legacy OOo lists. Looking at 2011 posts, year to date, these
are the average posts/day for the most-used lists.
I've arbitrarily cut-off the lost at
Bonjour Fred ;-)
I guess that the answer is somewhere in Oracle... but not even sure.
Maybe ask to the ex french community members.
Did you contact JB Faure or Sophie Gautier about that?
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 5:34 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On 04/09/2011, at 2:40, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
To help prioritize the list migration efforts, I've collected numbers
from the legacy OOo lists. Looking at 2011 posts, year to date, these
are the average
We didn't know to contact JB or Sophie.
We can contact them.
Thank you.
-Original Message-
From: FR web forum [mailto:o...@athena.apache.org]
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 14:36
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: Re : [Discuss] Lost in translation
Bonjour Fred ;-)
I
Am 03.09.11 23:36, schrieb FR web forum:
Bonjour Fred ;-)
I guess that the answer is somewhere in Oracle... but not even sure.
Maybe ask to the ex french community members.
Did you contact JB Faure or Sophie Gautier about that?
fr.openoffice.org tells: owned by kenaiadmin. This is because
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 07:43, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
IMO, looking at traffic on 2011 lists gives a false impression, at least
when averaged. I can only speak for the two active lists at documentation
(dev and authors), but they are quite active when we are working on docs for
a
We didn't know to contact JB or Sophie.
You must go to LibO :-/
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodesuser=229947
http://nabble.documentfoundation.org/template/NamlServlet.jtp?macro=user_nodesuser=227507
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 5:48 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton
dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote:
We didn't know to contact JB or Sophie.
Please stop saying we don't know. It is really annoying to those
who do. I'm sure that you have no firm basis for believing that no one
on the list knows how to contact
On 9/2/2011 10:23 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote:
Hi Dale;
With due respect to Italy's cultural richness (which I so
much admire being italian myself but not only because of that),
Neapolitan is classified as a dialect, not a language, for
good reasons.
Compared to standard italian you use the
Hi Andrea and Dale;
Ugh... I'll take back everything I wrote ... sorry.
The classification between languages or dialects in Italy,
is something that I know very well not to get into.
Yes, I've had my doze of Naepolitan, Friulian, Roman,
and Triestin.
cheers,
Pedro.
--- On Sat, 9/3/11, Andrea
OK. Before someone starts saying nasty things about Garibaldi, it
would be good to state some things I hope we all agree on:
1) What constitutes a language is as much a political and cultural
question as a linguistic one. No sense debating it here.
2) OpenOffice.org has a rich history of
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 07:58, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
I have no objection to the general recommendation of list
consolidation, directing all user-related lists to ooo-users
and project-related lists to ooo-dev.
Having thought about this some more over breakfast, I amend that
Yes, I've seen them on LibreOffice lists. Raphael just indicated that there
might not be any current administrators there. It won't hurt to ask.
Thank you again.
- Dennis
-Original Message-
From: FR web forum [mailto:o...@athena.apache.org]
Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2011 15:01
Hi;
--- On Sat, 9/3/11, Dale Erwin d...@casaerwin.org wrote:
...
Spoken like a true northern Italian bigot... with all due
respect.
Please note I did not call you a northern Italian bigot...
I said you speak like one. Maybe you are just
misinformed.
I should've thought better before
The royal we is often presumptuous, so take it under
advisement not to speak on behalf of the group unless
granted such permission more or less explicitly.
- Original Message -
From: Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org
To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org
Cc:
Sent: Saturday,
A huge +1 on that !
Jomar
PS.: A Klingon OpenOffice would be amazing to see :)
On 2011/8/3 19:24 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
OK. Before someone starts saying nasty things about Garibaldi, it
would be good to state some things I hope we all agree on:
1) What constitutes a language is
--- On Sat, 9/3/11, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote:
...
Only because a patch it's included in LibO we should not
include it automaticly here. There are many reasons to not
include a pach.
- Lisence Problems
- The Patch is not compatible with other Operating system.
- The patch is
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 6:29 PM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 07:58, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
I have no objection to the general recommendation of list
consolidation, directing all user-related lists to ooo-users
and project-related lists to
On 04.09.2011 06:47, Jomar Silva wrote:
A huge +1 on that !
Jomar
PS.: A Klingon OpenOffice would be amazing to see :)
AFAIR that was one of the first language projects back in 2001 (or so),
at least it was discussed, but was never released.
On 2011/8/3 19:24 Rob Weirrobw...@apache.org
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Peter Junge peter.ju...@gmx.org wrote:
On 04.09.2011 06:47, Jomar Silva wrote:
A huge +1 on that !
Jomar
PS.: A Klingon OpenOffice would be amazing to see :)
AFAIR that was one of the first language projects back in 2001 (or so), at
least it was discussed,
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 9:53 PM, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
snip
Troll-bait not taken.
I've answered your questions and more on ooo-users@i.a.o. I'll be
glad to answer any other you have. I'm sure others would as well.
Regards,
-Rob
On 09/03/2011 07:00 PM, Rob Weir wrote:
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 9:53 PM, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
snip
Troll-bait not taken.
I've answered your questions and more on ooo-users@i.a.o. I'll be
glad to answer any other you have. I'm sure others would as well.
Got it.
Hit run
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 03:07, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
Here is the post I sent to users@ooo. It appears to have caused
offense to a LO supporter who wanted to blow off steam and go out in
a blaze of glory. I will grieve his loss.
Rob, I feel that comment was completely
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
To help prioritize the list migration efforts, I've collected numbers
from the legacy OOo lists. Looking at 2011 posts, year to date, these
are the average posts/day for the most-used lists.
snip
I've created an updated
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 14:28, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Sat, Sep 3, 2011 at 12:40 PM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
To help prioritize the list migration efforts, I've collected numbers
from the legacy OOo
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 15:18, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
IMO, documentation.dev can be mapped to ooo-dev. That list was used
for policy and infrastructure discussions, which would fit well on
ooo-dev.
I would like
Jean, I am all right with whatever scope an list name you agree on.
I assume you will a moderator (which is great since you are in Australia).
I'll support you as another moderator. If we get one moderator from Europe
along with any others that raise their hands, we will have straddled the
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 15:18, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
IMO, documentation.dev can be mapped to ooo-dev. That list was used
for policy and
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 15:10, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
IMO, documentation.dev can be mapped to ooo-dev. That list was used
for policy and infrastructure discussions, which would fit well on
ooo-dev.
On further reflection, IF we set up a list for ooo-userdocs (under
whatever
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 15:47, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:39 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 15:18, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote:
On Sun, Sep 4, 2011 at 1:10 AM, Jean Weber jeanwe...@gmail.com wrote:
IMO, documentation.dev
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