Re: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!

2012-01-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
HI; Just accidentally found this while checking some links ... Please have this URL: http://br-pt.openoffice.org/ redirect to http://www.openoffice.org/pt-br/ cheers, Pedro.

Re: [WWW] Changeover is Close - Final Tasks!

2012-01-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
:48 AM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: HI; Just accidentally found this while checking some links ... Please have this URL: http://br-pt.openoffice.org/ redirect to http://www.openoffice.org/pt-br/ cheers, Pedro.

Replacement for Liberation Fonts (was Re: Font related questions)

2011-12-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; Looking around the net it looks like Google is not happy about GPLd fonts either so they now have a replacement to the so-called Liberation fonts: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/download-and-use-the-new-chrome-os-fonts-in-ubuntu/

Re: Replacement for Liberation Fonts (was Re: Font related questions)

2011-12-30 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Ven 30/12/11, Andrea Pescetti pesce...@openoffice.org ha scritto: Pedro Giffuni wrote: Apparently they are improved versions of the Liberation fonts, which Redhat had licensed from the same designers. The key feature of Liberation fonts is that they are metrically equivalent

[OT] Re: Holiday Greetings...

2011-12-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW ... --- Dom 25/12/11, John Boyle jbo...@harbornet.com ha scritto: ... To Dev: What is with this HAPPY HOLIDAY business? Christ IS a PROVEN HISTORICAL PERSON, BY ATHEISTIC AND AGNOSTIC SCIENTISTS, Jewish Historians and even Muslim historians, so you cannot argue he did not! SO WHY CAN'T

R: Merry Christmas and some private thoughts

2011-12-23 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; Well said! First of all, absolutely Merry Christmas to everyone and well deserved best wishes for the upcoming year. I had always been an outsider to the OOo project so it's rather unexpected to give my impressions but: 1) I am sure everyone agrees this project had about all odds

Re: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 For the few time I spent trying to give different colors to the new icons, it was clear it was not something that could be done reasonably well in a weekend. No need to wait 48 hours: this is lazy consensus at it's best. Pedro. --- Gio 22/12/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile ha scritto: Hi Drew,

RE: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; --- Gio 22/12/11, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org ha scritto: 48 hours is too short.  The practice is a minimum of 72 hours for a lazy consensus. (I am not arguing against your proposal.) I have no hurry to see this in but I do have to note that this is exactly what lazy

RE: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
someone is using lazy consensus technically correctly when it is thrown into a declaration or not, and I probably did not use the term correctly myself.  However, if a response time is set, 48 hours is too short [;). - Dennis -Original Message- From: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:p

R: ld: gold vs bfd

2011-12-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mer 21/12/11, Andre Fischer an...@a-w-f.de ha scritto: ... Hi all, I ran into a problem with a Linux build.  On Ubuntu (both 32bit and 64bit) linking of comphelper failed with a lot of unresolved references.  With the help of Herbert I could solve this by using a different linker.

Re: Team OpenOffice White Label Office (powered by Apache Open Office)

2011-12-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Dave; --- Mer 21/12/11, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net ha scritto: ... Pavel, Thank you for your perspective. I think a properly released OpenOffice.org 3.3.1 is totally possible.. I recall Martin came to the list with the idea. We took separate paths. OOo 3.3.1 is impossible, We

Re: About Team OpenOffice.org

2011-12-20 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello Götz; First of all welcome! Part of the confusion was indeed that we had not really hear from TOO and it's goals and future plans. I am relatively new to both OpenOffice and Apache but one of the things that motivated me to join is that the Apache License is very open to business. If you

Re: Calling TOO members re pootle data (was Re: Calling Martin, Stefan Matthias re the OOo pootle data)

2011-12-20 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW, Martin Hollmichel did write to this list and mentioned he had the box with the Pootle data available. This was before we had a running Pootle (Sorry that I am too lazy to look in the archives ;). Let's be patient, I am sure they will get to it. cheers, Pedro. --- Mar 20/12/11, Ross

Re: Time for the ASF to send an Open Letter?

2011-12-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Lun 19/12/11, Michael Meeks michael.me...@suse.com ha scritto: Hi Pedro, On Mon, 2011-12-19 at 06:32 -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: I'd prefer to see myself as part of the freedom loving, non-corporate dominated group of hackers having fun. And that's fine because you are not me

RE: svn commit: r1220578 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/license.html

2011-12-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello, I think we just have to remove a lot of stuff that is not relevant anymore. I'll try my hand at cleaning some of it but I am just too busy lately and I don't really like to leave unfinished stuff here and there. The icon coloring campaign will suffer, sorry :( Pedro. --- Lun 19/12/11,

Re: svn commit: r1220578 - /incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/license.html

2011-12-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Dave; --- Lun 19/12/11, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net ha scritto: Hi Pedro, Let's be clear - we need to leave the current page alone as it is the legacy 3rd party licenses and must be retained. Not really: We should not carry the LGPL license text but instead link to the FSF.

Re: Time for the ASF to send an Open Letter?

2011-12-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Dom 18/12/11, Norbert Thiebaud nthieb...@gmail.com ha scritto: ... On Sat, Dec 17, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: --- Sab 17/12/11, Michael Meeks ha scritto:     Sure - if it is easier for us to include an existing feature, under an acceptable license

[OT] Use of the GPL under fast decline

2011-12-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
JIC you missed it in Slashdot: http://www.itworld.com/it-managementstrategy/233753/gpl-copyleft-use-declining-faster-ever Quoting the article: ... I don't think projects are moving away from GPL, but that new vendors are choosing community approaches enabled by permissive licenses, rather than

Re: [BUILD]AOO build error in solaris

2011-12-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi, I can fix No. 2, but No. 1 doesnt seem right. Maybe there is a related patch in Solaris repositories? Alternatively you could use the system python. Cheers, Pedro. --- Dom 18/12/11, L'oiseau de mer oiseau...@gmail.com ha scritto: Da: L'oiseau de mer oiseau...@gmail.com Oggetto: Re:

Re: Time for the ASF to send an Open Letter?

2011-12-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Sab 17/12/11, Michael Meeks ha scritto:     Sure - if it is easier for us to include an existing feature, under an acceptable license into LibreOffice why would we bother re-writing it ? conversely if it is easier to re-write, why not ? And it's usually so much easier to take.

Re: PNG Security Vulnerability fixed in 3.3.0

2011-12-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; --- Ven 16/12/11, tora - Takamichi Akiyama t...@openoffice.org ha scritto: ... Why not 3.3.0? They say 3.2.1 is conceptually stabler than 3.3.0 since 3.2.1 is a minor, bug-fixed version while 3.3.0 is a major version. Unfortunately the legacy OpenOffice.org releases are

Re: svn commit: r1220324 - in /incubator/ooo/trunk/main/default_images/introabout: about.png intro.png

2011-12-17 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Ariel; --- Sab 17/12/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile ha scritto: ... Author: pfg Date: Sun Dec 18 02:16:34 2011 New Revision: 1220324 URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1220324view=rev Log: An unprofessional attempt to update some logos. then I'm not sure if this should be done

R: [build] Windows build inclusive nss and moz

2011-12-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Oliver; --- Ven 16/12/11, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann ha scritto: ... I think that the prebuilts for module moz (SeaMonkey version 1.1.4) should be available inside our SVN repository. One option would be to directly check them in into folder main/moz/zipped/ where they are needed. Another

R: [code] enlight libicudata ?

2011-12-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
I think it's a good idea. Pedro. --- Ven 16/12/11, eric b eric.bach...@free.fr ha scritto: Da: eric b eric.bach...@free.fr Oggetto: [code] enlight libicudata ? A: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Data: Venerdì 16 dicembre 2011, 06:10 Hi, FYI : http://eric.bachard.org/news/ Full link :

Re: gnumake4 integration (was: Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces)

2011-12-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Ariel; --- Ven 16/12/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org ha scritto: Hi there, I'm going to create a feature branch, named gbuild (I won't follow the apache-id naming schema, because this was not my work, nor am I going to be the only one committing code to it). And as I said

Re: gnumake4 integration (was: Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces)

2011-12-16 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Sab 17/12/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org ha scritto: ... Data: Sabato 17 dicembre 2011, 00:27 Hi Pedro, On Fri, Dec 16, 2011 at 08:10:55PM -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: I'm going to create a feature branch, named gbuild (I won't follow the apache-id naming schema

Re: Configure and category B

2011-12-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; --- Gio 15/12/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: ... This is a good start, and thanks, Pedro, for reaching out to them. But we'll need more than a private email to make this suitable for inclusion in default source releases. I am aware of this. I just brought the matter

Re: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-15 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Gio 15/12/11, Marcus (OOo) ha scritto: However, I still don't see a reason to delete the b/w icons. Nothing has to be done. The bitmaps are there, they get into builds, when we have these icons colored then they become the default and the b/w can be chosen manually. Nothing dies in

Re: buildbot failure in ASF Buildbot on openofficeorg-nightly

2011-12-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi guys; Sorry for the breakage (again). I understand the image(s) in that directory are trademarkedso it has to go out before the release. I thought we had removed everything related to BrOffice already bur there is still some of that in ooo_custom_images/prj/*.lst There may still be more in

Re: buildbot failure in ASF Buildbot on openofficeorg-nightly

2011-12-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mer 14/12/11, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com ha scritto: ... There may still be more in the installer set and it's something that I can't verify in my local build so I will revert the removal and open a bugzilla issue about it for someone else to play with. no

Re: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mer 14/12/11, Gianluca Turconi ha scritto: I agree as I've replied to Rob. Indeed, we already have a volunteer (Pedro) that wants to do the short term work. ;-) Really??? ;). I never meant to volunteer for anything but I did note that reverting the Hg change was an easy solution:

Re: Configure and category B

2011-12-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Andre; Concerning beanshell, I asked the copyright owner last week and I got this answer: Sorry we have taken so long. I hope to get to this the weekend after next. In the meantime please consider the codebase to be available under the Apache license. Don't know how this affects your plans

Re: old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
...@letturefantastiche.com ha scritto: Il giorno Wed, 14 Dec 2011 07:07:39 -0800 (PST) Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org ha scritto: I never meant to volunteer for anything but I did note that reverting the Hg change was an easy solution: it is and I can do it if that is the consensus. No extra work

Re: buildbot failure in ASF Buildbot on openofficeorg-nightly

2011-12-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Mer 14/12/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile ha scritto: In short, I tried: * empty ooo_custom_images/prj/build.lst * empty ooo_custom_images/prj/d.lst * remove ooo_custom_images from instsetoo_native/prj/build.lst *                    solenv/config/sooo340.ini (this looks obsolete

Re: ucpp sal dependency (was Re: OpenOffice nightly)

2011-12-14 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello, --- Mar 13/12/11, Jürgen Schmidt ha scritto: BTW: another fix for the current problem would be converting ucpp to gbuild. i would love to do that, do you know if it's already possible to use gbuild to apply our patch process and trigger a build on the patched sources? FWIW,

old colored vs new monochrome icons

2011-12-13 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; Perhaps it's time to retake the famous issue concerning the unpopular icon coloring change for OpenOffice.org. It looks like this change: http://hg.services.openoffice.org/DEV300/rev/b2b4215e6f9b caused this reaction: https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=112141 And while the easy

Re: About the Former Native Language projects

2011-12-13 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW; --- Mar 13/12/11, tj t...@apache.org ha scritto: ... Hi, Claudio, This is a personal note. I never have contributed a line of code to the project, nor was I invited as an initial committer. But I work hard around here, on various things like the wiki. The other members voted me

Re: [PROPOSAL] Setup of ooo-users-it and ooo-project-it mailing lists

2011-12-11 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 to the creation of the italian lists. As for the number of them: I think we should create both now and review if there is sufficient traffic to maintain them both once we graduate.

Re: Moving ext_src to Apache

2011-12-04 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Andre; --- Ven 2/12/11, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de ha scritto: Hi, I changed bootstrap.1, fetch_tarballs.sh and ooo.lst to use the new ext_sources directory.  For details please see issue 118663 (https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=118663). The BSDs (and Solaris?)

R: Aoo logo draft

2011-12-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Drew; I thought about something similar but I was not brave enough to put it together ;). Thanks!! This is typically bikeshed material: 1) Since the ffs are together and the i has an additional space it actually looks like it says Off ice. 2)I would prefer Apache in the Upper left corner,

Re: Is it time for a build machine?

2011-12-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; --- Ven 2/12/11, Jürgen Schmidt ha scritto: ... You should remove the whole target. i stumbled over the same problem and have already checked in a fix. There were some more place where broffice was referenced and have cleaned up this. Maybe we can agree that we build at least

Re: License of used 3rd party component Berkeley DB - clarification needed

2011-12-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW; Sleepycat was a company started by some guys from Berkeley (like in BSD) that wrote the classic bdb still distributed in the BSD4.4 derived distributions. The company was later bought by Oracle. For replacements you probably don't want to go back to the version in FreeBSD ... I don't know

Re: Is it time for a build machine?

2011-12-02 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Ven 2/12/11, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com ha scritto: ... build but they are not in commitable shape. I think I will go on vacations until the gnumake4 cws is committed. thinking about this statement..., no i will not ask further questions i will forget it ;-) Heh ...

Re: Is it time for a build machine?

2011-12-01 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Andrew and guys; By the place where the automated build is failing I think this was caused by the BrOffice removal: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?view=revisionrevision=1207925 but instead of reverting I would prefer we take this chance to find out how to get useful information from the build

Re: Neutral / shared security list ...

2011-11-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello guys; --- On Tue, 11/29/11, Dave Fisher dave2w...@comcast.net wrote: Hi Michael, While some might have hoped for another proposal and discussion prior to action, thank you for going ahead where there was clearly no consensus for specific action on the AOO side. As I see it, this

Joining the PPMC but taking a break (was R: [OT[ Re: Neutral / shared security list ...)

2011-11-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Drew; Thank you and others for the vote of confidence. Up till now I have been focusing on being a committer to spend more time on the code, which I think is/was essential to get the project going. I think most of the critical things I wanted done there are done or already on their way and

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-29 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Inspired by Andrea, I did the same with i113873 - Russian dictionary. I was actually lazy and instead of unpacking it and setting things up I actually took it from LibreOffice: the new dictionary is under a BSD-like license so that will not be an issue if we resurrect it. cheers, Pedro. ---

What about BrOffice?

2011-11-28 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi guys; I am not meaning to alienate the Brazilian community or anything like that. Just wondering if there are thoughts on BrOffice brand and releases. AFAICT, BrOffice is not a trademark SUN owned so it was not transferred to the ASF. I think the BrOffice people will have to make a proposal

Re: What about BrOffice?

2011-11-28 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- Lun 28/11/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org ha scritto: .. - Are we (AOO) allowed to carry BrOffice branding stuff in our repository at all? Why would we want to do that? I don't know.. you brought it in ;) :

Re: What about BrOffice?

2011-11-28 Thread Pedro Giffuni
OK; I have a patch that removes every occurrence of BrOffice, and the logos. It actually makes branding simpler but I don't know if my patch affects the packaging. I found a reversely related bug in bugzilla so I put up the patch for testing at:

Re: Business models that will not work [was: Re: Can we update our migration status table?]

2011-11-28 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW; I think a central site for hosting AOO extensions would be welcome. It would be fine to have such a site sponsored by donations and web publicity, and offering a share of technical support and commercial extensions would be fine too. Pedro. --- On Mon, 11/28/11, Rob Weir

Re: Rationalizing two OpenOffice websites

2011-11-27 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; First of all ... +1 To Andrea's general opinion in this email and welcome as a committer! I spent some time on the new Italian site (just playing with Apache CMS) and I updated the links to use relative URLS and the legal information, but I think thats about what I was planning to do with

Re: gnumake4 integration (was: Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces)

2011-11-27 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello guys; Maho and I have been battling with an issue related to the linking order on the vcl module for the FreeBSD port. A quick look on the gnumake4 CWS, in particular http://hg.services.openoffice.org/hg/cws/gnumake4/file/b3086537b169/vcl/Library_vcl.mk makes me think it is fixed there. I

Re: Unaccounted copyleft libraries in THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html

2011-11-26 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Eric; --- On Sat, 11/26/11, eric b eric.bach...@free.fr wrote: Hi, From: eric b eric.bach...@free.fr Le 26 nov. 11 à 07:58, eric b a écrit : Just running a check through the things registered in the old documentation I found mention of this libraries/packages: Neolight

sablotron (was Re: Unaccounted copyleft libraries in THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html)

2011-11-26 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW, I missed Sablotron from the list. Apparently it's not used either. I found a comment about Sablotron in xmlhelp/util/main_transform.xsl (line 371) It's not important but probably worth investigating later on: the new xslt processor may not need that workaround. cheers, Pedro.

Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces

2011-11-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
...@apache.org wrote: ... Hi Michael, * On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 12:04:24AM +0100, Michael Stahl wrote: hi Ariel, On 23.11.2011 17:16, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Wed, Nov 23, 2011 at 08:08:21AM -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: FWIW, Michael Stahl had these CWSs in the pipeline, I hope

Re: gnumake4 integration (was: Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces)

2011-11-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 from me I am pretty sure this wont interfere with the IP Clearance that is left and even there, getting us less dependent on Dmake is good. Pedro. --- On Fri, 11/25/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: ... Hi Pedro, * On Fri, Nov 25, 2011 at 01:59:38PM -0800, Pedro Giffuni

Unaccounted copyleft libraries in THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.html

2011-11-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; Just running a check through the things registered in the old documentation I found mention of this libraries/packages: Neolight libmspack NSIS I couldn't find them with opengrok so I think the document is outdated. If someone else sees them, feel free to make good use of your nearest axe

Re: [Code] issue 118623: Update Rhino from 1.5R5 to 1.7R3

2011-11-25 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; I am not against the update but I found this Java V8 bridge under AL2 which would further save licensing issues (and should be faster than Rhino): http://code.google.com/p/jav8/ enjoy, Pedro. --- On Fri, 11/25/11, Tsutomu Uchino hanya.r...@gmail.com wrote: From: Tsutomu Uchino

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello Andre; --- On Thu, 11/24/11, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de wrote: Hi all, The last open item on the IP clearance wiki page is the removal of the dictionary module from the AOO source code. I think we cannot ship MPL source code either (not even download+patches). That includes rhino,

Re: [CODE] issue 118608: IP clearance: Remove cppunit source

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Raphael Bircher wrote: ... I will commit it unless something breaks in the next half hour or so :). Let's wait a little bit longer, that we can do same more tests. We have time. I am not sure how long a little bit longer is supposed to be but I will commit this

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/24/11, Gianluca Turconi pub...@letturefantastiche.com wrote: ... Il 24/11/2011 15.01, Pedro Giffuni ha scritto: I think we should keep the non copyleft dictionaries for reference. I think that leaves us with English, Russian, Croatian and I have an old italian version

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 06:29:42AM -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hunspell is still the main spellchecker in AOO but we cannot ship the italian dictionary and even the MPL dictionaries have to be removed from the repository. Exactly, what do you mean by saying You can go ahead

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/24/11, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de wrote: I think we cannot ship MPL source code either (not even download+patches). That includes rhino, saxon and nss/mozilla. Hm, as far as I understand this we can not ship MPL code in the source release directly, but the

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Jurgen; --- On Thu, 11/24/11, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: As I had understood it the idea is that we shouldn't be using patches as a workaround to do actual coding on top of copyleft components, so I guess if the components are not on by default that is OK.

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
. --- On Thu, 11/24/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 06:29:42AM -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hunspell is still the main spellchecker in AOO but we cannot ship the italian dictionary and even the MPL dictionaries have to be removed from

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
24.11.2011 um 15:57 schrieb Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org: On Thu, Nov 24, 2011 at 06:29:42AM -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hunspell is still the main spellchecker in AOO but we cannot ship the italian dictionary and even the MPL dictionaries have to be removed from

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/24/11, Rob Weir rabas...@gmail.com wrote: In any case the project is not going to grind to a halt every time you are unsure. If you think we are doing something wrong then you need to back that with some authority, a link to a policy statement or authoritative

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/24/11, Rob Weir rabas...@gmail.com wrote: This attitude from you is hardly surprising because we all know you have all the answers :-P. It is memory not attitude. I don't know all the answers, but I do know the answers to questions that have already been asked and

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Mathias; --- On Thu, 11/24/11, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote: You mean like just tar them all and put them with the binary release? Yes. Even packaging as extension and deploying these packages as part of a binary release does not look fundamentally different than

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
+1 I think it's simple enough. We can make life more difficult after 3.4. Still the italian dictionary is GPL only. --- On Thu, 11/24/11, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote: Am 24.11.2011 um 20:46 schrieb Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org: Hi Mathias; --- On Thu, 11/24/11

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
I have already lost much time on this, but I will give this a last attempt. --- On Thu, 11/24/11, Rob Weir rabas...@gmail.com wrote: Maybe some are making an unstated and unwarranted assumption that our source release will contain 100% of what is in SVN?  That would explain much of the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Keeping AOO Attack Surface Small

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/24/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: Here are some proposal elements around the Attack Surface of Apache OpenOffice and keeping it small:   P1. Extensions, supplements, and updates downloaded by the run-time installer or product shall only be retrieved from URLs

Re: GPL'd dictionaries (was Re: ftp.services.openoffice.org?)

2011-11-24 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Thu, 11/24/11, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: This is the surest and easiest way forward. If you want to volunteer to implement an alternative approach then feel free to make a proposal for what you want to do. Oh. I solved this issue already for PedroOffice. I will amuse

Re: [CODE] issue 118608: IP clearance: Remove cppunit source

2011-11-23 Thread Pedro Giffuni
(Sorry for the delay: different timezone, busy morning etc) My build is a bad example because I use an automated build (ports tree) and am in the process of using more prepackaged stuff when possible. Just for reference, it looks like this: CONFIGURE_ARGS+=--disable-odk \

Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces

2011-11-23 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; That's very cool. Thanks Armand! I've checked out the status of AGG and while the new version is GPL'd, it was abandoned and the community has done some enhancements on the BSD licensed version that I could bring in. I thought AGG would've been useful for your SVG stuff but it looks like I

Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces

2011-11-23 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Eric, *, --- On Wed, 11/23/11, eric b eric.bach...@free.fr wrote: ... To be sure : is the plan to use gmake for the whole build ? That's the plan but my understanding is that gnumake4 doesn't yet achieve that completely. cheers, Pedro.

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hmmm ... Nevermind, OpenPKG is rather bulky. Unfortunately portable packagers seem not to be too common anymore. Pedro. --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: From: Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org Subject: Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm? To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org

Re: [CODE]: 118605 remove epm?

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
fetch_tarballs.sh, perhaps you can test my update to that script? (attached). cheers, Pedro. --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Pedro, On 11/22/11 1:52 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hmmm ... Nevermind, OpenPKG is rather bulky. Unfortunately portable packagers

Re: Source Code Sponsor of OOo

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: ... Changing or removing a PayPal button can't be a big issue. +1, I can do it but will that mean I have to maintain it? I can't read Spanish and therefore i depend on a good explanation. But i would really appreciate if we as PPMC can

Re: Source Code Sponsor of OOo

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Ariel; --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: I'm checking out https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/ooo/ooo-site/trunk/content/es Can one review the content and commit the changes directly on svn? (I've read there is some kind of web tool for this).

Re: [CODE] issue 118608: IP clearance: Remove cppunit source

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
I will review it as the external cppunit was breaking the build on SAL here. Thanks! Pedro. --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Andre Fischer a...@a-w-f.de wrote: Hi all, Another category-x licensed library is gone.  A pre-installed cppunit can be used instead. The gnu make build system needed some

System broken at mythes

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; I am getting this after r1204995 : ... = Building module mythes = ... configure: creating ./config.status config.status: creating Makefile config.status: creating mythes.pc config.status: creating config.h config.status: executing depfiles commands config.status:

Re: [CODE] issue 118608: IP clearance: Remove cppunit source

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi; Andre's patch looks good: it passes SAL on my system. My compile is now broken by an unrelated commit so if someone feels confident to commit it please go ahead. Pedro. --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: I will review it as the external cppunit was breaking

Re: System broken at mythes

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: From: Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org Subject: Re: System broken at mythes To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Date: Tuesday, November 22, 2011, 4:41 PM Hi Pedro, On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 01:16:47PM -0800, Pedro

Re: System broken at mythes

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
: System broken at mythes To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Date: Tuesday, November 22, 2011, 5:48 PM Hi Pedro, On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 02:00:40PM -0800, Pedro Giffuni wrote: --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: From: Ariel Constenla-Haile arie

Re: System broken at mythes

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: ... the underlying error is on the original mythes/makefile.mk: it shouldn't set the BUILD_ACTION to make, but to $(GNUMAKE) Can you try this in when $(GUI)==UNX ? This should solve the problem :) I tried it but it

Re: [CODE] issue 118608: IP clearance: Remove cppunit source

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
I was able to continue building and so far it looks good. I will commit it unless something breaks in the next half hour or so :). Thanks Andre! Pedro. --- On Tue, 11/22/11, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi; Andre's patch looks good: it passes SAL on my system. My compile is now broken

Re: [CODE] issue 118608: IP clearance: Remove cppunit source

2011-11-22 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Tue, 11/22/11, Raphael Bircher r.birc...@gmx.ch wrote: Am 23.11.11 04:07, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: I was able to continue building and so far it looks good. I will commit it unless something breaks in the next half hour or so :). Let's wait a little bit longer, that we can do

Re: Source Code Sponsor of OOo

2011-11-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hmm... Not pretending to defend or condemn anyone here, but it would seem like SUN/Oracle had approved some external uses of the trademark that the ASF is not likely to approve. As long as they don't carry ASF logos we should be patient and allow time for some transition to go on. FWIW, I think

Re: Use of copyrighted images with permission

2011-11-21 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi guys; FWIW, I found an interesting statement corresponding to the OpenOffice.org logo: http://marketing.openoffice.org/art/galleries/logos/ In order to protect the brand OpenOffice.org, the logo is not licensed under an open source license. As it is trademarked you are allowed to use it, if

RE: Microsoft Tools for Windows Builds

2011-11-20 Thread Pedro Giffuni
FWIW; It would be really nice to have a Windows buildbot. http://ci.apache.org/buildbot.html cheers, Pedro. --- On Sun, 11/20/11, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: ... Hi Ross, The goal is to be able to do the Windows Build with the free tools that Microsoft has

Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces

2011-11-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Mathias; --- On Sat, 11/19/11, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote: ... We have used them. At that time they where a PITA as updating them from the master or integrating them into it was very time consuming and required a lot of manual merging work. That worked much better with

RE: [Code] strategy for child works spaces

2011-11-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Sat, 11/19/11, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: ... This is not my area of expertise by any means.  And I have a concern that this is topic is being over-simplified.  This description is to test my own understanding of what it takes. I have concern that things

Use of copyrighted images with permission

2011-11-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; Probably everybody out there knows the BSD beastie image: http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/images.html This image is copyrighted by Kirk Mckusick: http://www.mckusick.com/beastie/mainpage/copyright.html And I have his permission to use it for the AOO FreeBSD port (He even sent me

Re: Use of copyrighted images with permission

2011-11-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Sat, 11/19/11, Rob Weir wrote: So you have his permission to use it.  But does Apache have his permission?  And what about downstream consumers?  Although it is unlikely, we need to consider the possibility that someone else takes the BSD port and customizes it and then

RE: [Code] strategy for child works spaces

2011-11-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Sat, 11/19/11, Dennis E. Hamilton dennis.hamil...@acm.org wrote: Pedro, Why does bringing in a CWS require creating diffs? If the CWS is installed on a client, any diffing can be done afterwards using tools that support SVN, yes? As I explained before I don't know how to use

Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces

2011-11-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
--- On Sat, 11/19/11, Mathias Bauer mathias_ba...@gmx.net wrote: Am 19.11.2011 15:22, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: I think we could use a SVN branch as a buffer to integrate CWSs one by one; that way we don't interrupt current work and get to try the CWSs before the tree changes too much

RE: [Code] strategy for child works spaces

2011-11-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
at least 8 months.  There's some gnumake3 merging too.  All of the changes I inspected were to *.mk files.  I got cross-eyed following paths backward in the graph and gave up without finding where gnumake4 started. -Original Message- From: Pedro Giffuni [mailto:p...@apache.org

Re: [Code] strategy for child works spaces

2011-11-18 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Eric; --- On Fri, 11/18/11, eric b eric.bach...@free.fr wrote: Disclaimer:  this list is not easy to read, and if the topic was already discussed. In this case, thanks in advance to provide me the right link :-) Hi, I perfectly know the importance of the IP clearance, but in

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