AOO 3.4 QA Weekly Status Report As of 2012/3/12(2012/3/1~2012/3/12)

2012-03-12 Thread xia zhao
Hi all, From this week, I will change the QA status report delivering date from Wednesday to each Monday. *AOO 3.4 Overall QA Status: *Based on the test plan: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/Release-QA-Plan 100% IP clearance testing have been done. These are the tests of

Re: WebDAV support: oo3.3 and oo3.4 are affecting each other

2012-03-12 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/12/12 3:29 AM, lou ql wrote: On 9 March 2012 18:10, eric beric.bach...@free.fr wrote: Hi, Disclaimer : the mail is not well quoted, so I'm not sure who I'm answering. Apologies if ever my answer is not clear. Le 9 mars 12 à 03:05, lou ql a écrit : 2. a dialog appears asking for

Fwd: buildbot failure in ASF Buildbot on aoo-win7

2012-03-12 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi, the windows build bot still has problems with the new introduced build prerequisite vcredist_**.exe Can somebody with access to the build bots add the new requirements. See

[BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
Hi, I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is not the latest working buildbot revision but I would like to include an increased buildid. It is still no a official RC because of the existing

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread rjaaskel
Jürgen Schmidt [jogischm...@googlemail.com] kirjoitti: Hi, I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is not the latest working buildbot revision but I would like to include an increased buildid.

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/12/12 10:05 AM, rjaas...@saunalahti.fi wrote: Jürgen Schmidt [jogischm...@googlemail.com] kirjoitti: Hi, I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is not the latest working buildbot revision but

Re: [Translate] Users for Pootle Server

2012-03-12 Thread Paolo Pozzan
2012/3/11 Gavin McDonald ga...@16degrees.com.au: -Original Message- From: Paolo Pozzan [mailto:pa...@z2z.it] Sent: Sunday, 11 March 2012 7:02 AM To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org Subject: Re: [Translate] Users for Pootle Server Il 09/03/2012 22:22, Rob Weir ha scritto: On Fri, Mar

Re: WebDAV issue report: open one file repeatly will

2012-03-12 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, On 09.03.2012 07:07, lou ql wrote: Ubuntu 10.04 1. Launch oo3.4 2. Click File-open 3. enter http://9.123.153.36/webdav, then press Enter 4. enter username and password, the remote folder is opened. 5. select a .odt file then click Open, the selected document will open 6. with the document

Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Rob Weir
I jest,of course. But seriously, there are some claiming that all of the OpenOffice.org project went over to LibreOffice and that the Apache has zero experience with this code base. I know this sounds crazy, but how can we best refute that statement? Here's my idea: Respond to this note and

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Claudio Filho
Hi 2012/3/12 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org: How many years were you doing this before the project came to Apache? Rob, my data: * I was lead of L10N of OOo for pt-BR between 2001 - 2007; * I was NL lead of pt-BR 2002 - 2009; * I sent the patchs for support to pt-BR in the code; * I was marketing

Re: [MIGRATION] Shut down on remaining Oracle web resources

2012-03-12 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 09:14:35PM -0800, Andrew Rist wrote: I would like to set the date for shutting down these Oracle hosted resources as March 15. (no Shakespeare references, please) This will include mailing lists, mail forwarder, remaining web pages, identity server. are the mailing

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, On 12.03.2012 13:50, Rob Weir wrote: I jest,of course. But seriously, there are some claiming that all of the OpenOffice.org project went over to LibreOffice and that the Apache has zero experience with this code base. I know this sounds crazy, but how can we best refute that statement?

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/12/12 1:50 PM, Rob Weir wrote: I jest,of course. But seriously, there are some claiming that all of the OpenOffice.org project went over to LibreOffice and that the Apache has zero experience with this code base. I know this sounds crazy, but how can we best refute that statement? Here's

Re: I had problems with the program openoffice

2012-03-12 Thread rjaaskel
Hello! I loaded file and see no image. But the data seem to be merely in table form, so why not use Calc? May you can ge more help from forums: http://user.services.openoffice.org/ regards Risto 0@8O K:20 [bykova.m...@gmail.com] kirjoitti: Good afternoon. I use the software openoffice. I

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Armin
Hi Rob, just in short form from vacation: - Working on OpenOffice/StarOffice since 1996 (StarDivision) - Quickly got responsible for all DrawingLayer tasks, mainly in Draw/Impress team - Added e.g. the first 3D engine, made office flicker-free, safe repaints, MVC-separation - Responsible for

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Simon Phipps
On 12 Mar 2012, at 12:50, Rob Weir wrote: I jest,of course. But seriously, there are some claiming that all of the OpenOffice.org project went over to LibreOffice and that the Apache has zero experience with this code base. I know this sounds crazy, but how can we best refute that

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:34 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 12 Mar 2012, at 12:50, Rob Weir wrote: I jest,of course. But seriously, there are some claiming that all of the OpenOffice.org project went over to LibreOffice and that the Apache has zero experience with this code

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Simon Phipps
On 12 Mar 2012, at 15:38, Rob Weir wrote: I'll decline your attempt to divert the conversation. It's far from it Rob. It's a polite and serious question. No-one I know doubts the experience of the former OpenOffice.org developers who joined this project, so I am rather surprised to see you

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 12 Mar 2012, at 15:38, Rob Weir wrote: I'll decline your attempt to divert the conversation. It's far from it Rob. It's a polite and serious question. No-one I know doubts the experience of the former

Re: [MIGRATION] Shut down on remaining Oracle web resources

2012-03-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 09:14:35PM -0800, Andrew Rist wrote: I would like to set the date for shutting down these Oracle hosted resources as March 15. (no Shakespeare references, please) This will include mailing

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:48 AM, Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi, I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is not the latest working buildbot revision but I would like to

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/12/12 4:34 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: On 12 Mar 2012, at 12:50, Rob Weir wrote: I jest,of course. But seriously, there are some claiming that all of the OpenOffice.org project went over to LibreOffice and that the Apache has zero experience with this code base. I know this sounds crazy,

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread Kay Schenk
2012/3/12 Jürgen Schmidt jogischm...@googlemail.com Hi, I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is not the latest working buildbot revision but I would like to include an increased buildid. Hi

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:57:00 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 12 Mar 2012, at 15:38, Rob Weir wrote: I'll decline your attempt to divert the conversation. It's far from it Rob. It's a polite and

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Herbert Duerr
On 12.03.2012 13:50, Rob Weir wrote: Here's my idea: Respond to this note and tell me how many years experience you have working with OpenOffice. I've been working on it since 2000. My specialties are i18n, text, graphics, platform integration, algorithms, performance, debugging, keeping

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Simon Phipps
On 12 Mar 2012, at 16:08, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 3/12/12 4:34 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: Out of interest, where have you seen that statement from an authoritative source? The former community seems spread between the AOO project and LibreOffice to me, and all the comments I have seen (and

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:15 PM, Rory O'Farrell ofarr...@iol.ie wrote: On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 11:57:00 -0400 Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 11:44 AM, Simon Phipps si...@webmink.com wrote: On 12 Mar 2012, at 15:38, Rob Weir wrote: I'll decline your attempt

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Rob, Rob Weir schrieb: I jest,of course. But seriously, there are some claiming that all of the OpenOffice.org project went over to LibreOffice and that the Apache has zero experience with this code base. I know this sounds crazy, but how can we best refute that statement? Here's my idea:

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 3/12/12 5:19 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: On 12 Mar 2012, at 16:08, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 3/12/12 4:34 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: Out of interest, where have you seen that statement from an authoritative source? The former community seems spread between the AOO project and LibreOffice to

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread eric b
Hi Rob, Le 12 mars 12 à 13:50, Rob Weir a écrit : I jest,of course. But seriously, there are some claiming that all of the OpenOffice.org project went over to LibreOffice and that the Apache has zero experience with this code base. IMHO we should not spend too much of (our precious)

Implementation of genitive case of month names (posessive context)

2012-03-12 Thread Sergey Torokhov
Hi to all,  previously I try to write to incubator.apache.org about this but encouted some encoding problem of theme header, and I try again So, the promlem is that ... for a long time (about 6 years) there is a feature request conserns Date Format representation as current one doesn't

Re: Fwd: buildbot failure in ASF Buildbot on aoo-win7

2012-03-12 Thread Andrew Rist
I added those files and it's rebuilding now. (I had that on my todo list for several days now, but thanks to this little push, it's done now) A. On 3/12/2012 12:54 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, the windows build bot still has problems with the new introduced build prerequisite

Re: [MIGRATION] Shut down on remaining Oracle web resources

2012-03-12 Thread Andrew Rist
On 3/12/2012 6:31 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 09:14:35PM -0800, Andrew Rist wrote: I would like to set the date for shutting down these Oracle hosted resources as March 15. (no Shakespeare references, please) This will include mailing lists, mail forwarder,

Re: [Translate] Users for Pootle Server

2012-03-12 Thread Roberto Salomon
Opening up the editing of strings for all does not seem like a good idea. We also need the translators to be properly identified in order to be able to track translations to their original contributors. Back in the good old days, the Brazilian community organized the translation in a tree

Re: [MIGRATION] Shut down on remaining Oracle web resources

2012-03-12 Thread TJ Frazier
On 3/12/2012 09:31, Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 09:14:35PM -0800, Andrew Rist wrote: I would like to set the date for shutting down these Oracle hosted resources as March 15. (no Shakespeare references, please) This will include mailing lists, mail forwarder, remaining

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread Andrew Rist
On 3/12/2012 9:14 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: 2012/3/12 Jürgen Schmidtjogischm...@googlemail.com Hi, I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is not the latest working buildbot revision but I would

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Roberto Salomon
The best response that can be given to such statements is a stable and reliable binary release of Apache OpenOffice for as many platforms as possible. I like to think that AOO is not in a market-share competition with LO. Both projects aim towards delivering a working, reliable office suite that

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread drew jensen
On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 08:50 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: I jest,of course. But seriously, there are some claiming that all of the OpenOffice.org project went over to LibreOffice and that the Apache has zero experience with this code base. I know this sounds crazy, but how can we best refute that

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 2:24 PM, drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2012-03-12 at 08:50 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: I jest,of course. But seriously, there are some claiming that all of the OpenOffice.org project went over to LibreOffice and that the Apache has zero experience

Re: My introduction

2012-03-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 2:31 PM, Kevin Sisco kevinsisco61...@gmail.com wrote: My name is Kevin and I am an I T consultant from New Jersey, USA.  I am glad to be on this list and I certainly hope that I can bring something of value to open office! Hi Kevin, welcome to the Apache OpenOffice

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Pedro Giffuni
On 03/12/12 13:42, Rob Weir wrote: I'm not suggesting we argue with anyone. I'm suggesting we make truthful positive statements about this project and the experience level of its participants. FWIW, and just my humble opinion ... I don't think we should spend time discussing such arguments

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Donald Whytock
yes, and: +1 (BTW, very little personal experience with actually using OOo; my various employers have used and supplied MSO. But strongly in favor of bucking monopolies.)

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: As said by several ones, let the code speak... As long as there is no release, it will be too easy to say: look, there is nothing concrete yet after so many months of incubation. If people were saying only that we

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, On 12.03.2012 14:33, Oliver-Rainer Wittmann wrote: Hi, On 12.03.2012 13:50, Rob Weir wrote: I jest,of course. But seriously, there are some claiming that all of the OpenOffice.org project went over to LibreOffice and that the Apache has zero experience with this code base. I know this

Files replaced by hashes, let's face it

2012-03-12 Thread Hagar Delest
Hi All, We have had a recent discussion in the forum (after another case) about the problem where files are replaced with only hashes, leading to serious data loss. Is there any plan to handle it or at least to double check the save process? For the record: usually after a power loss, the

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Dave Fisher
On Mar 12, 2012, at 1:07 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:59 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: On 03/12/12 14:48, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Pedro Giffunip...@apache.org wrote: On 03/12/12 13:42, Rob Weir wrote: I'm not suggesting we argue

Re: Files replaced by hashes, let's face it

2012-03-12 Thread RGB ES
El día 12 de marzo de 2012 22:47, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net escribió: Hi All, We have had a recent discussion in the forum (after another case) about the problem where files are replaced with only hashes, leading to serious data loss. Is there any plan to handle it or at least to

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread Oliver-Rainer Wittmann
Hi, On 12.03.2012 09:48, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is not the latest working buildbot revision but I would like to include an increased buildid. It is still

Re: Files replaced by hashes, let's face it

2012-03-12 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 22:47:42 +0100 Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Hi All, We have had a recent discussion in the forum (after another case) about the problem where files are replaced with only hashes, leading to serious data loss. Is there any plan to handle it or at least to

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Kay Schenk
On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 5:50 AM, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: I jest,of course. But seriously, there are some claiming that all of the OpenOffice.org project went over to LibreOffice and that the Apache has zero experience with this code base. I know this sounds crazy, but how can we

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi all, On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 09:48:59AM +0100, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: Hi, I would like to propose that we prepare the next set of dev snapshots based on the revision r1299571 (same as last changed revision). It is not the latest working buildbot revision but I would like to include an

Re: [BUILD]: propose next developer snapshot based on revision 1299571

2012-03-12 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi Kay, Andrew, * On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 03:28:11PM -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: Could someone at some point enlighten us as to WHY the latest revisions aren't automatically scooped up by the buildbot? The build bots pull the latest code every night. Or amybe a wiki page on this??? I

Re: [MIGRATION] Shut down on remaining Oracle web resources

2012-03-12 Thread Ariel Constenla-Haile
Hi all, On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 12:00:34PM -0400, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 9:31 AM, Ariel Constenla-Haile arie...@apache.org wrote: On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 09:14:35PM -0800, Andrew Rist wrote: I would like to set the date for shutting down these Oracle hosted resources as

Re: [MIGRATION] Shut down on remaining Oracle web resources

2012-03-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Andrew Rist andrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: I would like to set the date for shutting down these Oracle hosted resources as March 15. (no Shakespeare references, please) This will include mailing lists, mail forwarder, remaining web pages, identity server.

Re: How to provide Linguistic Tools replacements after the removal of GPL'd modules

2012-03-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 12/01/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 10/12/2011 Andrea Pescetti wrote: On 04/12/2011 Andrea Pescetti wrote: After coordinating with Gianluca about some details, I've just opened the issue at https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-117 As you can see at the link above, we won't get an

Re: [MIGRATION] Shut down on remaining Oracle web resources

2012-03-12 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Ariel Constenla-Haile wrote: are the mailing lists already dead? I tried to send an announce to the ES mailing lists, announcing the creation of ooo-general...@incubator.apache.org but it seems the lists are all dead, even the web interface looks strange http://openoffice.org/projects/es/lists

Re: [MIGRATION] Shut down on remaining Oracle web resources

2012-03-12 Thread Andrew Rist
On 3/12/2012 5:27 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Wed, Feb 22, 2012 at 12:14 AM, Andrew Ristandrew.r...@oracle.com wrote: I would like to set the date for shutting down these Oracle hosted resources as March 15. (no Shakespeare references, please) This will include mailing lists, mail forwarder,

Re: Is any one here familiar with OpenOffice?

2012-03-12 Thread Kevin Sisco
I do feel that we need to continue to focus on the issues at hand. We wouldn't want this project to fall into extinction after all these years now would we? On 3/12/12, Rob Weir robw...@apache.org wrote: On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote: On 03/12/12 13:42,

Re: Files replaced by hashes, let's face it

2012-03-12 Thread Kevin Sisco
As far as keeping data safe, would it be practical to have the software create stored session files? I guess this would be much like a dump file on windows or simply a setting file on certain editing programs. Just a thought. On 3/12/12, Hagar Delest hagar.del...@laposte.net wrote: Hi All,

Re: [RELEASE]: Bug 118914 - Upgrade package missing

2012-03-12 Thread xia zhao
Hi Ariel, I reported that problem, yes, the upgrade package is used for old OOo to upgrade linux package. Now it is missing in AOO 3.4 linux package. My concerns are: 1. AOO 3.4 is the first release for AOO project, we can statement it, but I don't think OOo users would buy in it. As one

Re: Files replaced by hashes, let's face it

2012-03-12 Thread eric b
Le 12 mars 12 à 22:47, Hagar Delest a écrit : Hi All, Hi, We have had a recent discussion in the forum (after another case) about the problem where files are replaced with only hashes, leading to serious data loss. Is there any plan to handle it or at least to double check the save