OpenOffice project interest in South Africa?

2011-06-29 Thread Rob Weir
Just noticed that we had project members from North America, South America, Europe, Asia and Australia. So 5 of 7 continents. I have doubts that we'll get anyone from Antarctica. But I thought there was strong interest in OpenOffice in South Africa, especially with their many official languages

Re: OpenOffice project interest in South Africa?

2011-06-29 Thread Rob Weir
> Sent: Wed, June 29, 2011 6:58:35 PM >> Subject: Re: OpenOffice project interest in South Africa? >> >> Let's ask Aslam Raffee. He used to be on the OASIS ODF Adoption TC. >> >> On  Jun 29, 2011 5:58 PM, "Marcus (OOo)" wrote: >> >  Am 06/29/

Re: OpenOffice project interest in South Africa?

2011-06-29 Thread Rob Weir
hose 2 I'd rather see at > this point, and yes it's an either-or question, not a let's do > both one. > We're in agreement here. -Rob > > > - Original Message >> From: Rob Weir >> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Sent: Wed, June

Re: OOo site down

2011-06-29 Thread Rob Weir
Alexandro, were the posts sent to the list today just queued up and eventually delivered? Or did they bounce during the outage? -Rob On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > Got my email back, thanks for the updates. > > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 2:43 PM, Andrew Rist wrote: >

svn:needs-lock for ODF documents?

2011-06-30 Thread Rob Weir
Noticed this comment on the CommitterStatus.ods file: "Wondering: I think I may be about to experience the disadvantage of binary documents in SVN. If I have a collision, finding a way to merge has to be all off-line and I could collide for a long time while working on this document off-line. He

Re: Introduction: Jin Hua, Chen

2011-06-30 Thread Rob Weir
Hello Jin Hua. Welcome to the Apache OpenOffice project. I see that you already have an Apache ID. This is good. Could you add a row for yourself to this page: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html Instructions for editing the webpage are here: http://incubator.apache.org/ope

Re: Introduction

2011-06-30 Thread Rob Weir
Welcome to the project, Erik! I see that you already have an Apache ID. This is good. Could you add a row for yourself to this page: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html Instructions for editing the webpage are here: http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/docs/edit-cms.htm

Why "list of preferred userids" ?

2011-06-30 Thread Rob Weir
When we process new committers, we're asking them for a "list of preferred userids"? Why is that so? Is that just in case there is a conflict? (But that should be trivial to prevent by having them look at the list of Apache ID's initially). Or are they set up with userid aliases? -Rob

Re: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?

2011-06-30 Thread Rob Weir
I'd like to reopen this question,since I haven't seen a resolution. I'm hearing some proposing Bugzilla, because of familiarity and ease of migration. I'm also hearing some say that JIRA is superior. I'm not really persuaded by either argument. I wonder if we could briefly drill down into this

Re: How do I get an Apache ID for OOo?

2011-06-30 Thread Rob Weir
What Andy said, as well as: http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#meritocracy -Rob On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Andy Brown wrote: > Ted Rolle, Jr. wrote: >> I'd like to participate in the OOo project. >> I'm a programmer and documentation editor. >> >> Ted > > A person does no

Re: Speaking of JIRA, Where's Ours?

2011-06-30 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 12:12 PM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On Thu, Jun 30, 2011 at 10:53 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> I'd like to reopen this question,since I haven't seen a resolution. >> >> I'm hearing some proposing Bugzilla, because of familiarity a

Re: ODF Toolkit Incubation Pre-Proposal

2011-07-01 Thread Rob Weir
We continue to discuss moving this work to Apache. Feedback so far has been to try for an eventual TLP. We're starting to draft the Incubation proposal. We talked to the maintainer of the C#/AODL component and he confirmed that it is not really active anymore. He might move it to bitbucket. So

Re: Please add your name to the contributors page

2011-07-01 Thread Rob Weir
- > ShuWang Han > RedOffice > Tel:(86-10)51570010-6150 > email:hanshuw...@redoffice.com,hanshuw...@tsinghua.org.cn > MSN: han_shuw...@hotmail.com > Address:2F HuiLongSen Tower A,18 Xihuan South Road, YiZhuang >Economic and Technological Develop Zone, Daxing District, Beijing,

Re: Another introduction

2011-07-03 Thread Rob Weir
thus the > reason I put my hand up early here. > > My hope is that the reasons that the LibreOffice fork happened don't > rear their ugly heads here.  I noted an earlier email exchange with Rob > Weir where he was denying IBM corporate power in the project.  I would > point out tha

Re: Releasing OOo 3.4 on the old infrastructure

2011-07-03 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jun 19, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > I understand that the necessary code reorganization in the Apache > project will forbid a public release for months. > Aside from the obvious technical tasks of producing code, translation and documentation, a release at Apache has specifi

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

2011-07-03 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 8:40 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On 3 Jul 2011, at 19:43, Ross Gardler wrote: > >> But before we can >> get to that point we need to address the technical differences between >> the two code bases. LO is already 8 months or so adrift of OOo (or at >> least that is what I am

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for July 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-07-03 Thread Rob Weir
Mentors, how is this report typically handled by the PPMC? Can a PPMC member just draft it and seek lazy consensus to submit? Or does this require an explicit PPMC vote? -Rob On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 10:00 AM, wrote: > Dear OpenOffice.org Developers, > > This email was sent by an automated syst

Re: Uh oh: OpenOffice.org XML Namespaces and Sun Mediatypes

2011-07-04 Thread Rob Weir
Java projects that move to Apache have a similar issue. They often convert from their pre-existing package structure to an org.apache.foo structure. Not sure if that is mandatory or not, but they seem to like to converge on an Apache namespace. But I think XML namespaces are different, since the

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-04 Thread Rob Weir
Is the Hg ==> Git conversion easier/cleaner than the conversion to SVN? I notice that Apache Infrastructure does support *read-only* Git repositories: http://git.apache.org/ Would it be any simpler to move the enter Oracle-hosted project, including all CWS's to a read-only Git, and then create a

Re: Releasing OOo 3.4 on the old infrastructure

2011-07-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 4:01 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Oh right, I said to myself knowingly, especially since any release under the > old infrastructure is essentially an LGPL release.  And it would be an > opportunity for cooperation. > > Uh, wait, I then said to myself, how do we get that

Re: Uh oh: OpenOffice.org XML Namespaces and Sun Mediatypes

2011-07-04 Thread Rob Weir
hs.  Do we > have any concern for org.openoffice. ... .mumble in that context? > > -Original Message- > From: rabas...@gmail.com [mailto:rabas...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Rob Weir > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 05:51 > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Uh oh: Open

Re: Releasing OOo 3.4 on the old infrastructure

2011-07-04 Thread Rob Weir
hat cannot be > accomplished as a full ASF release, then other avenues (like > collaboration with OO regarding distribution) can and should > be explored. > > (IMO). > > > - Original Message >> From: Rob Weir >> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org; dennis.h

Re: Releasing OOo 3.4 on the old infrastructure

2011-07-04 Thread Rob Weir
) so > why not let the discussions happen wherever, including here? > > > > ----- Original Message >> From: Rob Weir >> To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org >> Sent: Mon, July 4, 2011 9:32:34 PM >> Subject: Re: Releasing OOo 3.4 on the old infrastructure &g

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

2011-07-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > In general I avoid commenting threads like this, as in my > POV the licensing differences are not surmountable.. > It is hard to tell whether 100% of TDF developers insist on copyleft. Certainly there is a vocal contingent for which the

Re: Another introduction

2011-07-04 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 4, 2011 at 5:29 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: > On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 09:21 -0400, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 10:44 PM, Graham Lauder >> wrote: >> > Greetings all, >> > >> > My name is Graham Lauder AKA Yorick or Yo.  I've be

Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
I'd like to help move this discussion forward. I'm not perceiving any *strong* opinions on the Bugzilla versus JIRA question. But I am hearing several suggest that JIRA is a better tracker (custom dashboards in particular were called out). Bugzilla got some nods for the ease of migration and the

Re: Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > > --- On Tue, 7/5/11, Rob Weir wrote: > ... > >> >> I'd like to explore the technical feasibility of migrating >> to JIRA. >> > > +1 > >> I see this page here describ

Re: Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Am 05.07.11 18:27, schrieb Rob Weir: >> >> I'd like to help move this discussion forward.  I'm not perceiving any >> *strong* opinions on the Bugzilla versus JIRA question.  But I am >> hearing several

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 5:04 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: > On Sun, 2011-07-03 at 10:23 -0700, Dave Fisher wrote: >> On Jul 2, 2011, at 9:29 PM, Graham Lauder wrote: > > >> > >> > Much of what is on there is legacy material that could be seriously >> > pruned.  For instance all the old Marketing materi

Congratulations to Jean Hollis Weber (jeanweber)

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
We extend our congratulations to Jean Hollis Weber (jeanweber), who was recently voted in as a Committer and PPMC-member for the project. Jean was noted for her "diligence and participation" especially in the area of user documentation. -The Apache OpenOffice PPMC

Re: Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:39 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Am 05.07.11 19:12, schrieb Rob Weir: >> >> On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:01 PM, Raphael Bircher  wrote: >>> >>> Am 05.07.11 18:27, schrieb Rob Weir: >>>> >>>> I'd like to help move

Re: Migration, Bugzilla to JIRA

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 1:52 PM, Raphael Bircher wrote: > Am 05.07.11 19:37, schrieb Dave Fisher: >> >> Mark Thomas is the person on the Apache Infrastructure group who stepped >> up as the contact when I asked infrastructure if they had an opinion in our >> first few days. >> >> Would someone remi

Re: IDL Generation and MediaWiki [Was Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements]

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 2:04 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi Clayton, > > I am separating into two sub-topics: > > (1) IDL Generation. > > Thanks for the link to what the Wiki uses to create a short hand for various > IDL links. This points out a very important topic that needs to be > co-ordinated.

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: > Moin, > > On 05.07.2011 18:14, Mathias Bauer wrote: > >> It seems that my memory had fooled me: so if anybody can create an svn >> dump file, I will try to recap what we have agreed to so far and have a >> look into the conversion. In case any

Re: Problem adding my details to the contributors page

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
ache.org/committer-index.html I think we need the Mentor on the Incubation PMC to add you as a committer to this podling. -Rob > thegurkha > > On 28/06/11 20:03, Rob Weir wrote: >> >> http://incubator.apache.org/openofficeorg/people.html >> >> I've updated

Updating Project Info web page?

2011-07-05 Thread Rob Weir
This page here: http://incubator.apache.org/projects/openofficeorg.html Is this something that the Podling PMC should be updating? Or is this for the Mentors? Or is does anyone even look at this? There are some items that appear to be be done, but are not yet give dates. And the form sugges

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for July 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-07-06 Thread Rob Weir
I've drafted the report directly on the wiki. http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/July2011 Since the Board meeting is the 20th, and they need one-week to review, we need final sign off by the 13th. I will be out all next week starting the 12th. So if we can reach consensus on this and get a Mentor

DITA for Doc?

2011-07-06 Thread Rob Weir
Would it be worth considering using DITA for the documentation/help? I love ODF as much as anyone, but DITA was designed specifically for technical documentation, and has built-in facilities for making modular "topics" that then can be reassembled, with a "map" to assemble larger works. This give

Re: [DISCUSS] Creation of ooo-security List

2011-07-06 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 3:02 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > [I am reminded that the best way to talk to the PPMC is on ooo-dev and there > is benefit in so doing.  Here goes.] > > PROPOSAL > > ooo-security@incubator.a.o be set up as a private list and a selection of not > more than 10 security-a

Re: DITA for Doc?

2011-07-06 Thread Rob Weir
s a > deliverable from the ASF. > > Cheers, > -g > > On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 17:10, Rob Weir wrote: >> Would it be worth considering using DITA for the documentation/help? >> >> I love ODF as much as anyone, but DITA was designed specifically for >> tech

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-06 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 5:59 PM, Mathias Bauer wrote: > On 06.07.2011 18:58, Greg Stein wrote: > >> The development process that OOo used to use, as I understand it, >> looks incredibly heavyweight and slow moving. At Apache, you commit >> your changes. If you have a large-ish feature you're unsure

Re: DITA for Doc?

2011-07-06 Thread Rob Weir
n ad-hoc one used by only us. > Dave > > On Jul 6, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> Would it be worth considering using DITA for the documentation/help? >> >> I love ODF as much as anyone, but DITA was designed specifically for >> technical documentation, a

Re: DITA for Doc?

2011-07-06 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Hi Rob, > > On Jul 6, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >>  we've already done the work >> of converting much of the OOo help to DITA. > > Is there a software grant coming? > It is worth considering. Bu

Re: [DISCUSS] Creation of ooo-security List

2011-07-06 Thread Rob Weir
his is documented and it explicitly covers the case of reports for a project that does not have a dedicated security list. > >  - Dennis > > -Original Message- > From: rabas...@gmail.com [mailto:rabas...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Rob Weir > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011

Re: http://OpenOffice.org httpd logs, web analytics, etc.

2011-07-06 Thread Rob Weir
gt; I'll do what I can.   (does anyone know who used to collect the stats for > OOo?) > Andrew > > On 6/27/2011 5:33 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >> >> Do we have any detailed access logs or reports for OOo?  I think that >> would be useful for prioritizing service migration,

Re: fetch-all-cws.sh (was: Building a single Hg repository)

2011-07-06 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:41 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On 6 Jul 2011, at 23:19, Rob Weir wrote: > >> I think we're transitioning from a formally coordinated model led by a >> corporation to a model that will have less formal coordination >> structures.  This is

Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for July 2011 (ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org)

2011-07-06 Thread Rob Weir
opportunity to meet.) > > -Original Message- > From: acolor...@gmail.com [mailto:acolor...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Alexandro > Colorado > Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2011 11:08 > To: ooo-dev@incubator.apache.org > Subject: Re: Incubator PMC/Board report for July 2011 >

Re: DITA for Doc?

2011-07-06 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 7:33 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Jul 6, 2011, at 3:55 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 6:11 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: >>> Hi Rob, >>> >>> On Jul 6, 2011, at 2:10 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>>>  we&#

Re: DITA for Doc?

2011-07-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:50 AM, Frank Peters wrote: > Rob, > > Would it be worth considering using DITA for the documentation/help? > > [...] > >> I'd like to argue for the advantages of DITA as a source format here. >> I can probably find some volunteers to help enabled this.  The >> Symphony tea

Re: DITA for Doc?

2011-07-07 Thread Rob Weir
t; Ah. User guides vs $otherstuff. >> >> For developer documentation, I'd be partial to doxygen. For help >> doc... no opinion. >> >> Cheers, >> -g >> >> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 18:08, Rob Weir wrote: >>> That was user guides.  I'

Re: Future of OOo

2011-07-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 6:26 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > As this list knows i will be speaking at the 6th ODF Plugfest on what > it means to OOo to be in the Apache Incubator. Since I am only a > mentor and not a committer my presentation will focus on the Apache > Way rather than the future of OOo.

OpenOffice Security Vulnerability Reporting

2011-07-07 Thread Rob Weir
Bringing the threads together on the public list so we can (hopefully) quickly discuss. As I understand it now, the OpenOffice.org currently directs visitors to report vulnerability reports to securityt...@openoffice.org. This address is currently being monitored. And at Apache we ask vulnerabili

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

2011-07-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On 7 Jul 2011, at 13:17, Mathias Bauer wrote: >> >> This would at least require that someone having done that at LO would >> contribute a patch for OOo. Having a patch could help to do the removal >> in the same way as in LO. That could make

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

2011-07-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:25 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: > I'm still in the committer pending box, as soon as that is actioned I'll > get to grips with the CMS as well.  The initial homepage will be > probably more informational than guiding people to downloads.  We could > probably go with familia

Re: OOO and LibreOffice.

2011-07-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 10:29 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 2:59 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 8:49 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: >> > >> > On 7 Jul 2011, at 13:17, Mathias Bauer wrote: >> >> >> >> This woul

Re: What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork?

2011-07-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:01 AM, theUser BL wrote: > > Hi! > What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork? > > Currently there are two point of views what a OOo fork is and what not. > > If you look at the trademark and logo, then LibreOffice is the fork. > > But if you look at all othe

Re: Future of OOo

2011-07-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:03 AM, IngridvdM wrote: > Hi Donald, Ross, all, > > Am 07.07.2011 12:56, schrieb Donald Harbison: > [...] >> >> The end of a corporate controlled project, and the beginning of two new >> open >> source projects > > [...] > > I would like to change this part of the descrip

Re: Website Content plus Look and Feel Improvements

2011-07-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:24 AM, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 5:12 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > >> Am 07/07/2011 11:25 AM, schrieb Graham Lauder: >> >>  On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 08:34 -0700, Kay Schenk wrote: >>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Graham Lauder** wrote:

Regarding the PPMC's Private List

2011-07-07 Thread Rob Weir
We've received some criticism from our Mentors for using the private list too eagerly. I'm certainly guilty in that. I think the key thing is that the private list is for discussing matters that require privacy, but that this does not include discussing procedures around privacy and confidentiali

Re: Regarding the PPMC's Private List

2011-07-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 12:36 PM, Daniel Shahaf wrote: > Rob Weir wrote on Thu, Jul 07, 2011 at 11:44:33 -0400: >> 2) I wonder whether it would be a good idea, at least while the PPMC >> is still growing and we're getting up to speed, for all notes to the >> ooo-privat

Re: Regarding the PPMC's Private List

2011-07-07 Thread Rob Weir
xecutive session. Although there are exceptions, most elected officials in Massachusetts behave like adults, even when they need to declare why they are conducting business in private. > -Original Message- > From: rabas...@gmail.com [mailto:rabas...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Rob Weir >

Re: What is the advantage of the Apache OpenOffice.org Fork?

2011-07-07 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Jerry Kemp wrote: > One of the reasons I have stuck with OO and have not looked further into > LO was the fact that binaries were not provided for my preferred > desktop, Solaris.  Specifically, I primarily use either OpenSolaris > Nevada or OpenIndiana. > > A (more

Re: Any interest in meeting in Berlin July 13th?

2011-07-07 Thread Rob Weir
oked my travel and will arrive in the afternoon of the 13th. But I'm happy to get together with anyone who is already there on evening of the 13th. > Ross > > On 28 June 2011 22:46, Rob Weir wrote: >> There is an ODF interoperability even ("Plugfest" we call it) in &g

Re: Brazilian users list

2011-07-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 7:48 PM, luizh...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi, > > The Brazilian community [1] still maintains a minimum structure of support > to users of OOo/Libo. I forwarded the questions that come to help single > list in Brazil [2]. But, this week someone from the list of TDF did not like >

ooo-dev list subscriber stats?

2011-07-08 Thread Rob Weir
Is there a way for list moderators to get a tally of list subscribers? Or is this an admin permission? I'm interesting in knowing how many people are currently subscribed, especially a sense of the ratio of "lurkers" to active participants, contributors to users, etc. This could be one indicatio

Re: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?

2011-07-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > > On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> Is there a way for list moderators to get a tally of list subscribers? >> Or is this an admin permission? > > On another thread and list I saw this: > > "E

Re: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?

2011-07-08 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 10:06 AM, Sam Ruby wrote: > On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:52 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> >> On Jul 8, 2011, at 6:41 AM, Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> Is there a way for list moderators to get a tally of list subscribers? >>> Or is this an admin

Re: ooo blog (was: RE: ooo-dev list subscriber stats?)

2011-07-08 Thread Rob Weir
y include: >>> >>> - introduce AOOo (incubating) >>> - a promise that all bugs, user forums, and mailing lists will be >>> migrated >>> carefully and people can continue as now. >>> - a call for developers (code and documentation) to join us on oo

Re: Blog Created

2011-07-09 Thread Rob Weir
Is there an "editor" role? I may not do much original blogging here, but I could help with editing posts. I'd also recommend that we adopt some goals for the blog (community outreach, etc.) and set up an "editorial calendar" of planned future posts. -Rob On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 6:07 AM, Gavin M

Re: Images for use on Blogs Categories

2011-07-09 Thread Rob Weir
Is this the current list? http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/MimeType_Icons -Rob On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 7:15 AM, Gavin McDonald wrote: > Hi All, > > I created Categories 'Writer, Calc, Impress, Draw and Base' > > I'd like to add little images to associate with those, any clue where I > c

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-09 Thread Rob Weir
2011/7/9 Pavel Janík : >> Why? Out of the folk on the OOo forum who expressed an opinion to me, no one >> liked it. It was a perpetual reminder that the product couldn't be called >> what they really wanted it to be called: OpenOffice. I greatly prefer Apache >> OpenOffice to Apache OpenOffice.o

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 8:34 AM, David McKay wrote: > > > On 09/07/11 13:24, Peter Junge wrote: >> >> On 09.07.2011 20:02, David McKay wrote: >>> >>> My preference has nothing to do with blogs, it is purely a naming and >>> branding issue. Formally, OpenOffice.org was always written as >>> OpenOffi

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-09 Thread Rob Weir
We'll need to bring this up with Apache branding. The "Apache Project Branding Requirements" are listed here: http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs.html#naming The requirement is for the product to be called "Apache Foo", such as "Apache OpenOffice.org" or (my preference) "Apache OpenOffic

Re: DITA for Doc?

2011-07-09 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 3:55 PM, Pedro F. Giffuni wrote: > Hi Rob: > > Would the idea be to include the DITA Open Toolkit in > OpenOffice or to keep it as an external package? > It would be a build-time dependency, used when generating doc files. It would not a run-time dependency for the user. >

Re: Blog Created

2011-07-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 9:59 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > Dang! > > Well, I just jumped right in. > > So, we want the blog to be the official voice of the project in some way? > I think it will be seen that way by the reader, certainly. > Is that a requirement?  Is that what we want?  I though

Re: Local Website Development w/ Apache CMS

2011-07-10 Thread Rob Weir
Very nice. But a question: I know that committers must checkout code via the https URL in order to be able to later commit. But is there any reason why a contributor could not download via that same URL? I thought the authentication was only required at commit time. If this is true, that would

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 7:06 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: > On Sat, 2011-07-09 at 11:12 +0100, David McKay wrote: >> >> On 09/07/11 07:58, eric b wrote: >> > >> > >> > The .org is and was always essential to the community. >> > >> Why? Out of the folk on the OOo forum who expressed an opinion to me,

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:16 AM, Andre Schnabel wrote: > Hi, > >> Von: Javier Sola > >> >> This product competes with another one whose main disadvantage is not >> having the name OpenOffice.org, and who is already producing working >> software, more advanced that this project at this time, and g

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Rob Weir
2011/7/11 André Schnabel : > Hi, > > Am 11.07.2011 18:39, schrieb Rob Weir: >> >>  From a branding perspective you did have the opportunity to start >> fresh, but you did not go with a ".org" name. > > It did not matter that we had the opportunity to star

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:22 PM, Manfred A. Reiter wrote: > 2011/7/11 Rob Weir : >> 2011/7/11 André Schnabel : >>> Hi, >>> >>> Am 11.07.2011 18:39, schrieb Rob Weir: >>>> >>>>  From a branding perspective you did have the opportunit

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Graham Lauder wrote: > On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 20:21 +0300, Daniel Shahaf wrote: >> Javier Sola wrote on Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 18:43:17 +0700: >> > If Apache forced this without discussion it would be a bad start for >> > the project. >> >> You're misportraying the fa

Re: Extensions and templates site down

2011-07-12 Thread Rob Weir
Can we make it a priority to migrate these two site to Apache? We need volunteers to do this. Nothing happens by magic here. We need volunteers to define the technical requirements and work with Apache Infrastructure to make this happen. Hopefully we'd make some platform and technology choices t

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Am 07/12/2011 01:41 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: >> >> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 4:59 AM, Graham Lauder >>  wrote: >>> >>> On Mon, 2011-07-11 at 20:21 +0300, Daniel Shahaf wrote: >>>> >>&g

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog)

2011-07-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:03 AM, Simon Phipps wrote: > > On 12 Jul 2011, at 13:32, Kai Ahrens wrote: >> >> Of course it makes a difference to ask our users instead of asking some >> deeply involved people on this list, having very subjective interests in >> one or the other direction. >> >> And i

Re: Extensions and templates site down

2011-07-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: > I sent an email to supp...@osuosl.org last night and got a response in 30 > minutes. > > OSUOSL admin says: > >> Looks like varnish died on the machine and I just kicked it. The site(s) >> should be back online now. >> >> The sites have been

Re: OpenOffice.org (was Re: Ooo blog) - Take care of the users!

2011-07-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: > I am going to maintain my neutrality, but I think there is one thing to keep > in mind. > > Every time a URL changes, you lose people.  Every time you break a (deep) > link that someone bookmarked, you risk losing someone.  Every time

Re: Extensions and templates site down

2011-07-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:54 AM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:32 AM, Dave Fisher wrote: >> I sent an email to supp...@osuosl.org last night and got a response in 30 >> minutes. >> >> OSUOSL admin says: >> >>> Looks like varnish died on

Re: [DISCUSS] Project + PPMC Growing Pains

2011-07-12 Thread Rob Weir
Is this intended as a blog post? It reads like one. In particular I don't see any proposals to discuss. -Rob On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:30 PM, "Dennis E. Hamilton" wrote: > We are just one month into being the Apache OpenOffice.org Podling. It is > useful to interesting to take stock of all that

Re: Extensions and templates site down

2011-07-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> Another option that comes to mind: >> >> 3) Have OOo extensions hosted by a 3rd party website and we link to >> that site. It is done that way essentia

Re: Extensions and templates site down

2011-07-12 Thread Rob Weir
On Jul 12, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: > On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Jul 12, 2011, at 4:41 PM, Simon Phipps wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>>> Another option that

Re: Open Office Help Wanted

2011-07-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jul 13, 2011 at 4:33 PM, Harold Fennell wrote: > > I would like to know more about: > > external diff and merge tools for Subversion that can process ODF documents > > Do you have other teams working on this problem, what is the expected > timeframe, any helpful hints on completion, and i

Symphony contribution

2011-07-13 Thread Rob Weir
I'm sending this with my IBM "hat". I'm going to be speaking at the ODF Plugfest in Berlin Friday afternoon, and will be making some announcements. I wanted you to hear this first, before anyone else knows. You know about IBM Lotus Symphony, our free (as in beer) product which is based on OOo.

Re: Symphony contribution

2011-07-13 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 1:48 AM, Marcus (OOo) wrote: > Am 07/14/2011 12:00 AM, schrieb Rob Weir: >> >> I'm sending this with my IBM "hat". >> >> I'm going to be speaking at the ODF Plugfest in Berlin Friday >> afternoon, and will be making so

Re: [DISCUSS] Project + PPMC Growing Pains

2011-07-18 Thread Rob Weir
xt file in the PPMC's private repository, to contain the contact information for additional, non PPMC experts who we agree should be consulted in relevant security discussions. >  5. Most important: This is a learning experience for all of us.  What do you > want cleared up aro

Re: Before Symphony contribution

2011-07-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 2:16 PM, Andy Brown wrote: > Damjan Jovanovic wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:29 PM, Donald Harbison >> wrote: >>> Yes, that is the right sequence. Our project is Apache OpenOffice, no >>> question there. The intent behind the future code contribution of Symphony >>>

Re: Symphony contribution

2011-07-18 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Malte Timmermann wrote: > Hi Erik, > > thanks for clarifications :) > > Some questions below... > > On 14.07.2011 05:09, Yong Lin Ma wrote: >> >> ... >> We are willing to contribute the whole Symphony to community. The code >> would be available to the community. (

Re: Symphony contribution

2011-07-18 Thread Rob Weir
Looks like the list manager strips out attachments. That probably is a good idea. But you can view the screen shot I mentioned here: http://www.robweir.com/symphony-UI.png -Rob On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 7:54 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Jul 14, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Malte Timmermann >

Re: OOo Trademark

2011-07-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 4:38 AM, Ross Gardler wrote: > On 19 July 2011 06:37, Peter Junge wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm still getting requests now and again from persons who want to use the >> trademark OpenOffice.org for various reasons. In former times I have been >> pointing them to a web form that

Planet Apache, Planet OpenOffice, etc.

2011-07-19 Thread Rob Weir
Apache has two "planet" blog aggregators, one for Apache project blogs [1] and one for Committer's personal blogs [2]. There are instructions [3] for adding your blog to the latter aggregator. (SVN required) There is also a OpenOffice.org Community Planet [4]. Does anyone know the details of thi

Re: Before Symphony contribution

2011-07-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 12:17 AM, imacat wrote: > On 2011/07/19 03:08, Rob Weir said: >> +1  Let's start from a stable build and make changes from there that >> leave the build stable.    So I think it looks like this: >> 1) Get all OOo Hg repository converted over

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