On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 12:23 AM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote:
Drew and Rob,
I'll defer to your experience with the OO recruiting. Your comments make
sense.
The key point I wanted to make was that I feel that diversity is a good
thing, and that product design need not
Drew and Rob,
I'll defer to your experience with the OO recruiting. Your comments make
sense.
The key point I wanted to make was that I feel that diversity is a good
thing, and that product design need not solely the domain of technical
people. Yes, the offering is software and that requires
Please cancel all emails to me.
Tkanks
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 7:03 AM, drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.comwrote:
On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 23:21 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM, drew jensen
drewjensen.in...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 09:04 -0400, Rob
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM, drew jensen drewjensen.in...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 09:04 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Kevin Grignon
kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote:
Rob,
Sounds like we can appeal to contributors intrinsic and extrinsic
On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 23:21 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 12:35 PM, drew jensen
drewjensen.in...@gmail.comwrote:
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 09:04 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Kevin Grignon
kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote:
Rob,
Rob,
Sounds like we can appeal to contributors intrinsic and extrinsic motivation.
Another newbie question: Does OO have any experience recruiting non-technical
volunteers. Many disciplines outside coding can have an impact on the offering.
Product management, UX, ID, training, visual design,
On 29 March 2012 05:51, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote:
Given the risk in a formal certification program,
Why would there be risk - well any more risk than doing anything else?
Not for profit is easy. Do it through ASDAN, (for example) a registered
charity in the UK and
Thanks Pedro for explaining the non-profit angle. The ASF does not
offer any such certificates currently - it's hard to see how they work
with our primary mission (of the ASF overall), which is providing
software for the public good.
There are plenty of other third parties who do this kind
On 29 March 2012 14:08, Shane Curcuru a...@shanecurcuru.org wrote:
Thanks Pedro for explaining the non-profit angle. The ASF does not offer
any such certificates currently - it's hard to see how they work with our
primary mission (of the ASF overall), which is providing software for the
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 09:04 -0400, Rob Weir wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 8:31 AM, Kevin Grignon
kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote:
Rob,
Sounds like we can appeal to contributors intrinsic and extrinsic
motivation.
Another newbie question: Does OO have any experience recruiting
On 28 March 2012 02:38, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.com wrote:
Many great thoughts here.
In addition to supporting the open source movement, perhaps we could
market participation as a way to learn and develop skills.
Maybe a certificate for AOO development professional? Work out the
Hi,
I am sorry i am new to this dev mailing list. What is the real requirement.
In what areas we need people for the next 1 year. What is the exact skill
set needed. Let me see if i can help you in anyway.
Thanks Regards,
Ram,
Im Software Systems
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 08:47:30 +0100, Ian Lynch
On Tue, Mar 27, 2012 at 9:38 PM, Kevin Grignon kevingrignon...@gmail.comwrote:
Many great thoughts here.
In addition to supporting the open source movement, perhaps we could
market participation as a way to learn and develop skills.
As a newbie, it appears that much our message is around
On Wed, Mar 28, 2012 at 12:05 PM, q...@imsoftwaresystems.com wrote:
Hi,
I am sorry i am new to this dev mailing list. What is the real requirement.
In what areas we need people for the next 1 year. What is the exact skill
set needed. Let me see if i can help you in anyway.
Hi Ram,
As you
Hi Rob,
Well, the large talent pool is available here in India with millions of
students graduating in Engineering,MCA(Master of computer applications).
They all look for a project for their final semester. We can somehow try to
attract them but they also try to see what is the benefit for them.
Hi Ram;
We are strictly non-profit here so I am not sure how far
we could go with such certifications. I think it's a
delicate matter and sooner or later someone would likely
complain about students being exploited or your company
making money in exchange of ASF certificates.
We certainly can
Given the risk in a formal certification program, we could look to support
contributors intrinsic motivation by reducing barriers to entry and supporting
a positive on-boarding experience.
On Mar 29, 2012, at 12:37 PM, Pedro Giffuni p...@apache.org wrote:
Hi Ram;
We are strictly
Great points in this thread
Question: Does OO community have a history if working with academic or
professional groups to recruit volunteers? Developers, designers and beyond.
What is the protocol to recruit?
Thoughts?
Kevin
On Mar 29, 2012, at 12:23 PM, q...@imsoftwaresystems.com wrote:
Hi Pedro Giffuni,
You are absolutely right, i could not think the other side it(exploiting
making money inexchange of certificates). The certificates are issyed by
Apache and issued only when there is a contribution.
The second point is that most of the students generally do not have any
ideas
Hi;
--- Gio 29/3/12, q...@imsoftwaresystems.com ha scritto:
...
Hi Pedro Giffuni,
You are absolutely right, i could not think the other side
it(exploiting
making money inexchange of certificates). The certificates
are issyed by
Apache and issued only when there is a contribution.
The
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 12:54 +0800, Kevin Grignon wrote:
Great points in this thread
Question: Does OO community have a history if working with academic or
professional groups to recruit volunteers? Developers, designers and beyond.
Hola Kevin,
hmm - perhaps review the information at:
Many great thoughts here.
In addition to supporting the open source movement, perhaps we could market
participation as a way to learn and develop skills.
As a newbie, it appears that much our message is around what we need - which is
essential to understand, however we may want to focus on
Hi,
On 2012-03-19, at 08:41 , Rob Weir wrote:
Any ideas and the best ways how we can improve in this area after AOO
3.4 releases?
Lots, and these would complement the rather good ideas already proposed. What
we did at OOo actually worked--to attract developers and contributors of all
sorts.
On 03/22/2012 08:06 PM, Ross Gardler wrote:
I'm not sure if Jim meant this or not, but being started doesn't mean
finding things to do. The first stage is figuring out how to set up a dev
environment. Could this be sensibly added to (our linked from) the get
involved page?
Ah, sorry for the
On 3/22/12 7:18 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
On 03/22/12 11:09, Herbert Duerr wrote:
As a quick note, I'd *love* to dive in and start doing some
coding on AOOo; it's just that I've no idea where in the
heck to start... :)
Additionally to what Pedro said I'd like to point to our Bugzilla at
Hi,
On 23.03.2012 08:31, Jürgen Schmidt wrote:
On 3/22/12 7:18 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote:
On 03/22/12 11:09, Herbert Duerr wrote:
As a quick note, I'd *love* to dive in and start doing some
coding on AOOo; it's just that I've no idea where in the
heck to start... :)
Additionally to what Pedro
On 20.03.2012 11:09, Armin Le Grand wrote:
Hi Rob,
[..]
Extendign after Reginas eMail:
- refactoring
- featues
- bugfixing
- tutoring
The tradeoffs are hard, but splitting time in
- refactoring
- featues
- bugfixing
is the key, the ratio is hard to determine, maybe everyone has to find a
As a quick note, I'd *love* to dive in and start doing some
coding on AOOo; it's just that I've no idea where in the
heck to start... :)
Hi Jim;
On 03/22/12 10:03, Jim Jagielski wrote:
As a quick note, I'd *love* to dive in and start doing some
coding on AOOo; it's just that I've no idea where in the
heck to start... :)
It depends on your particular interests. The codebase is
rather big and there's a lot to do.
There are big
As a quick note, I'd *love* to dive in and start doing some
coding on AOOo; it's just that I've no idea where in the
heck to start... :)
Additionally to what Pedro said I'd like to point to our Bugzilla at
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ which is a fountain of inspiration. E.g.
On 03/22/12 11:09, Herbert Duerr wrote:
As a quick note, I'd *love* to dive in and start doing some
coding on AOOo; it's just that I've no idea where in the
heck to start... :)
Additionally to what Pedro said I'd like to point to our Bugzilla at
https://issues.apache.org/ooo/ which is a
I'm not sure if Jim meant this or not, but being started doesn't mean
finding things to do. The first stage is figuring out how to set up a dev
environment. Could this be sensibly added to (our linked from) the get
involved page?
Sent from my mobile device, please forgive errors and brevity.
On
Hi Regina,
Thanks for these excellent insights.
Best regards
Simon
Op 20-3-2012 13:29, Regina Henschel schreef:
(...)
It is impossible to understand the code without guides and without
mentoring.
Conclusion, wish or how you might call it:
(1) Document parts of the code very detailed in all
Hi Rob,
On 19.03.2012 13:41, Rob Weir wrote:
There have been some side discussions on this topic. I'd like to
collect these ideas into one thread.
My observations:
1) The OpenOffice code base has a reputation of being complex, hard to
understand, even haunted. It is difficult for
Hi Rob,
I do not code in my daily job, but do it only as hobby. My personal
observations might be true for other volunteer coders too.
Rob Weir schrieb:
There have been some side discussions on this topic. I'd like to
collect these ideas into one thread.
My observations:
1) The OpenOffice
There have been some side discussions on this topic. I'd like to
collect these ideas into one thread.
My observations:
1) The OpenOffice code base has a reputation of being complex, hard to
understand, even haunted. It is difficult for new developers to get
involved with it.
2) We get regular
Rob,
I agree, making this project open and accessible for all who want to
contribute is an important consideration.
With regards to the short term priorities and delivering AOO 3.4 to
maintain traction, I completely agree.
With regards to a post AOO 3.4 approach, I would advocate a balanced
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