Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Integer overflow

2005-09-30 Thread Chris Covell
flow errors. But as this is a production server I need to sign the CRRs It does seem like it is a problem paresing the signature. Any other ideas ? Chris... Chris Covell wrote: Many thanks for your comments guys, Looking into it i am seeing the errors when approving CRRs, singing them with

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Integer overflow

2005-09-30 Thread Chris Covell
any problem, it appears after approving CSRs. As you say so, it appears for very low serial numbers, so I guess this could be a bug in perl libraries. Regards, Johnny --- Chris Covell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escribió: Guys, Openca 0.9.2.2 Openssl 0.9.7 Have any of you ever seen this in the

[OpenCA-Devel] Integer overflow

2005-09-30 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, Openca 0.9.2.2 Openssl 0.9.7 Have any of you ever seen this in the stderr.log ? Integer overflow in hexadecimal number at /usr/local/ca001_pki/modules/perl5/OpenCA/PKCS7.pm line 392. The last certificate issued was serial 5368 (0x14F8) The last certificate revoked was serial 3366 (0xD

[OpenCA-Devel] OpenCA Head shell interface

2005-08-23 Thread Chris Covell
Hello Guys, sorry I have not been around for a while, but I was on holiday and am having some ongoing personal problems. Anyway, I am getting back to looking at the CVS head and in particular the shell client interface. My question today is... I have found the "openca-shell-client" and shall e

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] CVS Head

2005-07-18 Thread Chris Covell
Many thanks Michael. Michael Bell wrote: Hi Chris, the import works no too. I was a bit lazy now and make recursive * commit. I hope that all files are now available. Chris... --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover Easy Linux Migratio

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] CVS Head

2005-07-18 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, The file is in the CVS. Did you use the developer CVS and -P option for checkout or -dP for update? I am pretty sure that I am doing it correctly. i am using: export CVS_RSH=ssh export [EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/openca cvs checkout -r HEAD openca-0.9 (which implies -P as I understand)

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Restructuring CVS documentation

2005-06-23 Thread Chris Covell
Oliver, * creating a new module in cvs * moving the contributed docs to this new module * moving the guide to the new module * including all docs on the website I fully support this idea. Chris... --- SF.Net email is sponsored by: Discover

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] is there some API??

2005-05-19 Thread Chris Covell
Roberto. I'd like to link OpenCA with another aplication. We've got software which is loggin responsible. I was thinking It could use OpenCA to identify users and then it would give permission to them. Our software could be in another machine, and it could send request and receive

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] testing CVS head

2005-05-04 Thread Chris Covell
Martin, yes, you will have to start the OpenCA daemon via openca_start. The CLI client then binds to the socket and communicates with the server. (Have a look at the test.pl script which automatically configures, compiles and installs the OpenCA system, starts the daemon and runs some non-interacti

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] testing CVS head

2005-05-04 Thread Chris Covell
Martin, uh, sorry, I should have read your message a bit more thoroughly AND given it second thought! :-) no problem ;-) OpenCA CVS head does NOT have a working frontend yet, the one included does not work at all, hence the 'unblessed reference' which is Perl's way of telling you that the object (U

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] testing CVS head

2005-05-04 Thread Chris Covell
Martin, 71set_language ($self->{api}->get_required ('DEFAULT_LANGUAGE')); looks like you have to add the DEFAULT_LANGUAGE setting to your etc/servers/*.conf files. Yeah, I have made sure I have these in both the tamplate and conf files in servers. In config.xml make sure that default_lang

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Question about LunaCA3

2005-04-13 Thread Chris Covell
What about the Crystoconfig file Bahaa talked about ? Jakub Musiaƅek wrote: Rechlo :) this looks right to me ! Have you got the "multitoken2" program in the SafeNet distribution to test the client/token ? I use the Luna SA and test it with: ./multitoken2 rsasign 1024 1 Multitoken is not a part of

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Question about LunaCA3

2005-04-11 Thread Chris Covell
Have you generated a new key pair like I sugested ? And stored the result as "server.key" ? The error looks to me like the file is not in the correct format for the LunaCA3 plug in to recognise it. Which seems strange if you used the cautil utility to generate the key pair. Chris... Jakub Musia

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Problems with stop script

2005-03-31 Thread Chris Covell
Oliver, After some subsequent tries with everytime the same error as before the fix I saw that one process was still running with the old config... I dont know why the "stop" scritp does not take down the process, but I recommend a simple change: a grep inside the start-script shpuld check if t

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] openca-0.9.2.2

2005-03-08 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, Michael Bell wrote: Tagged (openca_0_9_2_2). Please verify. just to let you know that I have checked out the fresh 0_9_2_2 tag and installed it in my test environment. It seems to work fine against the LunaSA I have available so that is good news. I tested right from the start, i.e. roo

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] openca-0.9.2.2

2005-03-04 Thread Chris Covell
I say tag away ! Michael Bell wrote: Chris Covell wrote: Guys, when is openca-0.9.2.2 being tagged on CVS ? Cool question, if there are no problems at all then I can tag it on monday. So deadline for changes or showstopper notices is monday 9.00 UTC. Michael

[OpenCA-Devel] openca-0.9.2.2

2005-03-04 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, when is openca-0.9.2.2 being tagged on CVS ? Chris... --- SF email is sponsored by - The IT Product Guide Read honest & candid reviews on hundreds of IT Products from real users. Discover which products truly live up to the hype. Start readi

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] (no subject)

2005-02-22 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, but maybe it may be time to release a 0.9.2.2 when we put the improved scep-interface also in the cvs version and do some checking if it works properly, but so far this seemes to be the case so what do the other developers think about? for purely selfish reasons, i would like to see a 0.9.2

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Sessions management in RA

2005-02-07 Thread Chris Covell
Jonny, surely your Java client has a cookie management facility buit in ? I have used perl to do the sort of things you are talking about (make a connection to an http interface with cookies) and I use a perl module that understands session management and cookies. Surely you do not have to do J

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Menugeneration

2005-02-04 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, during the rewrite some people wrote me statements that they would like to see role based menus. I would prefer this too instead of our old menu handling. The different interfaces costs a lot of work. What do you think about this change? I think this is a good idea. i like the idea that

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] RE: LunaCA3 module

2005-02-01 Thread Chris Covell
Hello, Bahaaldin Al-amood wrote: I am currently working on the LunaCA3 module, I keep running into this OpenCA::OpenSSL module but I can not see where this module is located on the file system; here is the output of ls in the modules directory is this it ? ../modules/perl5/i386-linux-thread-multi/O

[OpenCA-Devel] LunaCA3 module

2005-02-01 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, I have been looking at the LunaCA3 module with OpenCA 0.9.2.1. Bahaa is also trying to get this working withh 0.9.2.1 but I thought two heads and all that. Anyway, i have fixed a few bugs in the code, so that now when I run: # ./openca_start it does not fail with syntax errors. Now it just

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Problem starting OpenCA with mysql

2004-12-06 Thread Chris Covell
to install using earlier versions of perl ? Chris... Chris Covell wrote: Guys, sorry for cross posting this to Devel too, but I have had to do some code changes In order to get the OpenCA server started on this RedHat Enterprise 2.1 server with Perl 5.6.1 I have had to edit "OpenCA/DBI.p

[OpenCA-Devel] Re: R: [Openca-Users] Problem starting OpenCA with mysql

2004-12-06 Thread Chris Covell
utf-8'' at line 1 at ../OpenCA/DBI.pm line 2587." Am I fighting a loosing battle here because of the Perl version I am using ? Or is this an error people have seen before ? Chris... Chris Covell wrote: OK, so I have piinned in down a bit. When you use a DBI the fnction initDBI

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Workshop documents

2004-11-15 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, Try www.openca.info :) yes this works well. I remember reading about www.openca.info now... Chris... --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: InterSystems CACHE FREE OODBMS DOWNLOAD - A multidimensional database that combines robust object and

[OpenCA-Devel] Workshop documents

2004-11-15 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, please can you let me have the URL of the workshop documents. I need to look at one of them and the URL of Olie's test server is not working. Cheers. Chris... --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by: InterSystems CACHE FREE OODBMS DOWNLOAD -

[OpenCA-Devel] Testing OpenCA at high volumes

2004-09-30 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, please find attatched a copy of an internal report written by a colegue of mine who has independantly tested our 50,000 certificate test OpenCA installation. Please remember that some of the things he is saying we could fix in CVS and submit, but we have chosen to complete this testing on

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] OpenCA Conference presentation

2004-09-30 Thread Chris Covell
Oliver, Oliver Welter wrote: I think that I will run a Win2000 Maschine with OO and Powerpoint2000 - so everyone can take what he prefers. many thanks, I shall send you my slides tomorrow (once they have been looked at internally). If you need to do a German translation, then you have a bit of t

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] More volume test results

2004-09-14 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, Michael Bell wrote: first thanks for these real world tests. no problem, this is an important area for the future of OpenCA as a product for Local Government and larger organisations. The reason is simple and inacceptable for high volume systems: This while loop iterates over all (!!!) e

[OpenCA-Devel] More volume test results

2004-09-10 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, as you know I have started a project to test the volume performance of OpenCA (0.9.2 RC6 CVS). I have presented a few results on preliminary tests of the batch processor in other emails. I have now moved onto volume testing, and in particular testing everyday functions in a high(ish) volu

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Volume testing

2004-09-06 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, Michael Bell wrote: It would be really interesting for me to know how fast create_pin is. Could you run the batchprocessor only with one step for each function and then check the speed for the single funtions? This would allow us to find the functions which consume the most time and per

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Volume testing

2004-09-06 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, Michael Bell wrote: I added Apache::Leak to bpDoFunction. It is deactivated by default but you can use it for searching memory leaks. OK, I have now istalled mod_perl which contains Apache::Leak and can use openca_start successfully calling the module! The debugging is a little bit tric

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Volume testing

2004-09-06 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, perhaps a small notice for all who perform performance tests. OpenCA heavily use Perl's eval. The problem is that eval had several memory leaks. Perl 5.8.5 reports in it's CHANGES area several bugfixes related to eval. OK, I have upgraded to Perl 5.8.5, built from sources, and upgraded

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Volume testing

2004-09-02 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, Michael Bell wrote: 100 batch2 minutes 11 seconds 1000 batch33 minutes 22 seconds 3000 batch3 hours 30 minutes 43 seconds I have re-tested using the bpDoStep command you sent, and got the following: 3000 batch 2 hours 52 minutes Obviously we are going in the right directio

[OpenCA-Devel] Volume testing

2004-09-01 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, as you know I am performing a set of volume tests on OpenCA 0.9.2 RC6 (recent CVS). My first set of tests are volume testing the batch processor (i.e. seeing how the performance varies with batch size). I have noticed this: As the batch size gets bigger, the time to complete the batch inc

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Multiple instances on one system

2004-08-27 Thread Chris Covell
Martin, I just have a completely seperate installation of each (i.e. /usr/local/openca1, /var/www/html/openca1, /usr/local/openca2, /var/www/html/openca2) each with their own database. This is also how I separate the CA and RA (when I am testing on a single box). Apart from the multiple instances o

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Multiple instances on one system

2004-08-27 Thread Chris Covell
Martin, Martin Bartosch wrote: Hi, I was thinking about the best way to install multiple instances of OpenCA on one system. By this I mean e. g. two separate RAs or CAs on the same hierarchy level. I think currently the most sensible way to do this is: I just have a completely seperate installat

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Backup/restore procedure problems

2004-08-25 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, many thanks for fixing this, I knew it was that MODE Chris... Chris Covell wrote: Guys, On Friday 20 August 2004 18:57, Martin Bartosch wrote: I did not try it again, but I suppose it's a bug. I finally found out how to import my stuff using SQL import and var/ restore and

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Backup/restore procedure problems

2004-08-23 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, On Friday 20 August 2004 18:57, Martin Bartosch wrote: > I did not try it again, but I suppose it's a bug. I finally found > out how to import my stuff using SQL import and var/ restore > and this worked fine for me, so I did not investigate further. > Feel free to file the bug... it looks t

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Backup/restore procedure problems

2004-08-20 Thread Chris Covell
Martin, On Wednesday 18 August 2004 13:16, Martin Bartosch wrote: > I get the following error in the browser (I set the exchange > device to a file instead of /dev/fd0). > > There seems to be an error: LOG__DIR indicates that some variable > is undefined, it should read LOG__DIR, judging from the >

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Design issue: Role signatures and conflicts with key usage bits for CA certificates

2004-08-19 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, On Thursday 19 August 2004 12:26, Michael Bell wrote: > > Ok, then I will remove the signatures. BTW this speeds up the batch > system dramatically because it reduces the number of RSA operations. I am just about to build my volume/speed test system, so i shall wait until this modification

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Proposed new Phase I Step 4

2004-08-19 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, On Wednesday 18 August 2004 19:17, Tiller, Robert wrote: > How about a new Phase I Step 4 to be done after the normal init and > cert setup that would be "Issue CRL". This is so you have a > fresh CRL before the dataexchange to the RA and you don't have to go > back and do it later. Yes,

[OpenCA-Devel] I am on holiday

2004-08-07 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, just to let you know that I am on holiday next week. I also tried sending this message to the new [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list, but the message bounced. Speak to you after the 15th. Chris... --- This SF.Net email is sponsored by OST

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Release Volume

2004-08-06 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, On Friday 06 August 2004 12:36, Michael Bell wrote: > 1. Remove all modules of the form *.tar.gz in src/modules and replace > them by a notice in INSTALL (prerequisites). Not sure about this one, OK for people that have already downloaded, but... > 2. I would like to remove the postscrip

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] First OpenCA Workshop in Fall 2004

2004-08-03 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, On Monday 02 August 2004 14:04, Oliver Welter wrote: > as some of you already know there was a plan for a littte > workshop/conference on OpenCA in Spring 2004. Excellent idea ! > Now the plans go further and I want to get an overview who will come > to such a workshop and what is his/her

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] OpenCA future project

2004-07-15 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, On Thursday 15 July 2004 12:17, Michael Bell wrote: > can you put this strategic wishlist (incl. the comments from the others) > into the OpenCA guide so that we have an official strategic plan? I have added a new appendix file, strategy.xml to the guide. Hopefully I have got most of the

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] OpenCA future project

2004-07-15 Thread Chris Covell
Michael (and others) On Thursday 15 July 2004 12:17, Michael Bell wrote: > Hi Chris, > > can you put this strategic wishlist (incl. the comments from the others) > into the OpenCA guide so that we have an official strategic plan? > > I think it is really important to have an idea what we want :) >

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] OpenCA future project

2004-07-13 Thread Chris Covell
Martin, On Tuesday 13 July 2004 15:34, Martin Bartosch wrote: > this is actually a very good summary of some missing key features. > I have some additional feature requests and ideas (see bottom of > this mail). I shall comment on your comments !!! > > 9. Web based OpenCA configuration and managem

[OpenCA-Devel] OpenCA future project

2004-07-13 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, I have been thinking about future development for OpenCA and have come up with the following list. I thought I would share them with you to get some feedback before putting them on the "OpenCA Features Request page". What do you think ? 1. Scalability - An indication from the OpenCA team

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] 0.9.2 Batch processors

2004-07-13 Thread Chris Covell
Oliver, On Tuesday 13 July 2004 12:04, Oliver Welter wrote: > > If you have cvs access feel free to add it, otherwise I will do with my > next update OK I have just added the file to CVS. Chris... --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat B

[OpenCA-Devel] 0.9.2 Batch processors

2004-07-13 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, first let me congratulate the developers of the 0.9.2 Batch Processors. This is a much better model that the 0.9.1 system, it works well and is expandable, great ! OK, I have been through the normal methods, i.e. creating the three input files, and it works well. I have just tried the "Q

[OpenCA-Devel] Script errors in IE

2004-07-09 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, are any of you seeing script errors when using IE ? The error message (in IE) I get is that "document.forms0.elements0 is null or not an object". I have pinned the problem down to the HTML.pm module, if i DIFF between the current CVS and the RC5 release I see: < $page .= ' '; --- >

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Verification Problems - current state

2004-07-07 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, On Wednesday 07 July 2004 12:39, Michael Bell wrote: > I tested with Mozilla 1.5 (SECCLAB) and Mozilla 1.7 (crypto.signText). > Can you output text and signature in test_cert and send it to the list > or directly to me? I need some material to analyze the problem. OK, I edited the "verif

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Verification Problems - current state

2004-07-07 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, On Tuesday 06 July 2004 15:45, Michael Bell wrote: > I commited a second big bugfix today which should now fix the problem > with the signature verification for roles and PIN (CRINs) too. I worked > some time ago on a telco software and remembered me that the linebreak > of http is \r\n. I

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Latest CVS

2004-06-25 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, On Friday 25 June 2004 08:42, Michael Bell wrote: > cvs update -dP openca-0.9 Thanks for this, I will be able to drive CVS one day I promise !!! Chris... --- This SF.Net email sponsored by Black Hat Briefings & Training. Attend Black

[OpenCA-Devel] Latest CVS

2004-06-24 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, just tried installing OpenCA from CVS and noticed a couple of things: the directory src/web-interfaces/batch is empty and there is no ja_JP language which is called in the Makefile. I was not sure if changes have been made to the batch since RC5 so I did not want to "fix" the problem on C

[OpenCA-Devel] Fwd: [ openca-Bugs-976870 ] CA export of large number of certificates fails

2004-06-24 Thread Chris Covell
visiting: https://sourceforge.net/tracker/?func=detail&atid=120873&aid=976870&group_id= 20873 Category: None Group: None Status: Open >Resolution: Fixed Priority: 5 Submitted By: Chris Covell (katjam) Assigned to: Nobody/Anonymous (nobody) Summary: CA export of large number of cert

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Volume testing

2004-06-18 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, On Thursday 17 June 2004 14:45, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > there is an area "export/import commits" which do the serial handling. I > planned to replace the simple textfile by a dbm-file with a btree which > should be much faster (log n instead of n per access) but I had no time > until no

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Adding a new Function

2004-06-17 Thread Chris Covell
Oliver, On Thursday 17 June 2004 12:11, Oliver Welter wrote: > I wrote a new command and now want to add it to my openca installation, > but when I try to call > batch?cmd=getParams;GET_PARAMS_CMD= > > I get error 700 - this commmand is not supported.. > > I already added a file in etc/rbac. I ha

[OpenCA-Devel] Volume testing

2004-06-17 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, I am going to be doing some volume testing on 0.9.2 (RC5 probably) soon, and was just wondering on the status of the data exchange. The problems I got when volume testing 0.9.1 was that there was a huge overhead in parsing the dataexchange log files to determine what certificates should b

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] OpenCA Volume Testing

2004-04-08 Thread Chris Covell
Max, On Wed, 2004-04-07 at 19:22, Massimiliano Pala wrote: > Hello all, > > do you recently have run tests about mass issuing of certificates ? There > have been tests some time ago on a number of 10.000 certs which was partially > successful. > > Does someone have fresh results on the subject ?

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] OpenCA SV

2003-12-04 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, On Thursday 04 December 2003 08:27, Michael Bell wrote: > openca-sv supports encryption and decryption in the snapshots but it > looks like I forgot to fix the helpmessage. Does somebody use the tool > already? I have problems to trace back the usage :( sorry Michael, I don't use the sv t

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] RC tagging in CVS

2003-11-28 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, On Friday 28 November 2003 07:52, Michael Bell wrote: > > should we tag release candidates in CVS? The tag would be like this one: > > openca_0_9_2_RC_1 > Yes, I think this is a good idea. Chris... --- This SF.net email is sponsored b

[OpenCA-Devel] OpenCA Integration with LunaSA HSM - Good News

2003-11-24 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, just to let you know that I have successfully stood up an openCA installation with root key generation on a Chrysalis ITS LunaSA network HSM device ! The details: OpenCA 0.9.1-1 OpenSSL 0.9.7 Chrysalis ITS OpenSSL patch specific for 0.9.7 LunaSA device located in Chrysalis test labs Chrys

[OpenCA-Devel] Signature verification

2003-09-16 Thread Chris Covell
This is a bit off topic, but hopefully you won't mind... has anyone got a method to verify the signatures genrated during the CAPICOM sign process using openssl ? Looking at the OpenCA code, the openssl routines seem just to extract the signers certificate rather than verifying the signature, o

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Menu StyleSheets

2003-09-16 Thread Chris Covell
On Tuesday 16 September 2003 13:25, Michael Bell wrote: > Hi Max, > > I played a little bit around with the stylsheets and the html pages and > now I hope you get an idea what I mean. I used a stylsheet in the way > you like for submenus - ab*c (this is regex with a, b and c are submenus). > Guys,

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] Sheets are gone

2003-08-19 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, > I have to make an announcement to avoid too big shocks. Max and I > thought about the i18n support which is a little bit problematical today > because you cannot switch the language on a per user base. Today you > have to install another interface if you want to support the next languag

[OpenCA-Devel] Volume testing and export

2003-07-21 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, as you may know I have been doing some volume testing on 0.9.1-1. My tests have involved creating 10,000 certificates via the CA batch processes. All has gone well but I am now hitting problems with the certificate export, I hope that someone here in the developers area knows what is goi

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] XML Editors and DocBook

2003-06-06 Thread Chris Covell
Michael, > It looks nice but it has a problem with XInclude. Do you know how to > manage all of our different files with it? > Doh ! From the XMLMind web site: "Planned features Easy to use support of multi-file documents based on standard external entities or XInclude." Looks like this will

Re: [OpenCA-Devel] XML Editors and DocBook

2003-06-05 Thread Chris Covell
> > I'm using vi and make because I didn't find a good GUI. Do you have a link? > yes it is at: http://www.xmlmind.com/ Chris... --- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Etnus, makers of TotalView, The best thread debugger on the planet. Desig

[OpenCA-Devel] XML Editors and DocBook

2003-06-05 Thread Chris Covell
Guys, I am preparing the ground for the documentation and have found a Java based XML editor called XMLMind. It seems quite good and has the benefit of understanding DocBook. It has DocBook schema built in and acts as a front end to the conversion functions. Michael, what did you use to create