[opencog-dev] Broken master

2016-10-12 Thread 'Nil Geisweiller' via opencog
Hi, according to http://61.92.69.39:8080/job/ci-atomspace-master/222/console I've broken the master. Unfortunately I haven't been able to reproduce it, even with uncommenting `SET(DB_IS_CONFIGURED 1)` in `tests/persist/sql/odbc/CMakeLists.txt` to make sure I compile it. Any idea? Nil -- Yo

Re: [opencog-dev] About Attention Values and Truth Values

2016-10-12 Thread vishnu
Thanks Linas and Misgana for your time. I read Attention Allocation . Under "Ideas of simple ECAN tests", it is written that special words won't get forgotten. But what do you call as special words?. Only the words that co-occur together? or th

Re: [opencog-dev] About Attention Values and Truth Values

2016-10-12 Thread Roman Treutlein
Hey, Short explanation first: STI: This value indicates how relevant this atom is to the currently running process/context LTI: This value indicates how relevant this atom might be in future processes/context (Atoms with low LTI have no future use and get delete if the AS gets to big) VLTI: Thi

Re: [opencog-dev] About Attention Values and Truth Values

2016-10-12 Thread vishnu
> > Hey Roman, > Thanks for the reply :-) I am not sure what exactly you want to use the AttentionValues for With attention values, i thought i could do the following: I have 24x7 tweets coming. So i thought, I can send them to NLP pipeline and get Atoms. Let's say most of the people tweet ab

[opencog-dev] Re: ImplicationLink?

2016-10-12 Thread Linas Vepstas
No, actually, I worked around that. The only reason that PutLinkUTest currently passes is because PutLink fails to treat ScopeLinks correctly. When that gets fixed, the unit test will fail ... the issue remains the same. --linas On Tue, Oct 11, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Nil Geisweiller wrote: > Are t

Re: [opencog-dev] Broken master

2016-10-12 Thread Linas Vepstas
I can't reproduce it wither, but the error message is clear: no known conversion for argument 1 from ‘opencog::NodePtr {aka std::shared_ptr}’ to ‘opencog::AtomPtr& {aka std::shared_ptr&}’ It this automatically for us, but not for jenkins .. a different compiler, maybe? Or a different version of l

[opencog-dev] Re: ImplicationLink?

2016-10-12 Thread 'Nil Geisweiller' via opencog
OK, when they fail again I guess you might feel free to push to the master, as we're apparently using as a dev branch, and then I'll fix that. Nil On 10/12/2016 06:17 PM, Linas Vepstas wrote: No, actually, I worked around that. The only reason that PutLinkUTest currently passes is because Put

[opencog-dev] Re: ImplicationLink?

2016-10-12 Thread Linas Vepstas
Well, yes, but Nil,, look at the core issue: the variable X in the Implication link is bound, but the unit test is pretending that its free. My question is: are you *sure* you really want the implicationLink to inherit from Scope Link (and thus, always bind it's variables)? --linas On Wed, Oct 1

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: ImplicationLink?

2016-10-12 Thread Ben Goertzel
Potentially Atomspace could host other sorts of variables But, since ImplicationLink is a PLN (or other formal logic) thing, it makes sense to have the variables involved with implicationLink bound somewhere, since that is how formal logic works, right? Potentially this quantification could b

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: ImplicationLink?

2016-10-12 Thread Linas Vepstas
Ben, that's fine, I don't care. But if that is what you want, then the unit test is wrong. I'm just asking for confirmation, before I change it, since Nil wrote the unit test. --linas On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 11:01 AM, Ben Goertzel wrote: > Potentially Atomspace could host other sorts of varia

Re: [opencog-dev] About Attention Values and Truth Values

2016-10-12 Thread Roman Treutlein
Hey vishnu, what you are suggesting does sound doable. In your case, you would just want to stimulate atoms every time they have been parsed by the NLP pipeline. Something like this might already exist not sure ask misgana. More generally there would be many Mind-Agents that are running in the

[opencog-dev] Re: ImplicationLink?

2016-10-12 Thread 'Nil Geisweiller' via opencog
On 10/12/2016 06:55 PM, Linas Vepstas wrote: Well, yes, but Nil,, look at the core issue: the variable X in the Implication link is bound, but the unit test is pretending that its free. My question is: are you *sure* you really want the implicationLink to inherit from Scope Link (and thus, alw

[opencog-dev] Re: ImplicationLink?

2016-10-12 Thread Linas Vepstas
On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Nil Geisweiller wrote: > > > On 10/12/2016 06:55 PM, Linas Vepstas wrote: > >> Well, yes, but Nil,, look at the core issue: the variable X in the >> Implication link is bound, but the unit test is pretending that its >> free. My question is: are you *sure* you r

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: ImplicationLink?

2016-10-12 Thread Ben Goertzel
Wait ... we can have nested ScopeLinks, so that a variable embedded in two ScopeLInks can be bound by the outer one or the inner one... no? On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 4:08 PM, Linas Vepstas wrote: > > > On Wed, Oct 12, 2016 at 12:53 PM, Nil Geisweiller > wrote: >> >> >> >> On 10/12/2016 06:55 PM, L

[opencog-dev] Contributing to OpenCog

2016-10-12 Thread Vineet Parikh
Hi there, I recently completed my open source project that I started in Summer 2016. The project involved documenting a core feature of Linux XIA, specifically the Longest-Prefix-Matching principal where I helped experiment/verify all relevant constructs - including installing virtual machine

Re: [opencog-dev] Re: ImplicationLink?

2016-10-12 Thread 'Nil Geisweiller' via opencog
On 10/13/2016 02:38 AM, Ben Goertzel wrote: Wait ... we can have nested ScopeLinks, so that a variable embedded in two ScopeLInks can be bound by the outer one or the inner one... no? Yes, no problem, if a variable is scoped by both then the inner one will cover the outer one. Anyway, I don'