RE: Problem orientation in OpenEHR

2019-06-26 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland via openEHR-clinical
Hi Paul! Yes, this is part of the openEHR specification LINK class (https://specifications.openehr.org/releases/RM/latest/docs/common.html#_link_class), and it needs to be handled by the application. I know DIPS has started using this in some functional areas like their hospital care plan

RE: Downloading previous versions of archetypes from CKM

2019-05-28 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland via openEHR-clinical
E, UCL On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 10:43, Bakke, Silje Ljosland via openEHR-clinical mailto:openehr-clinical@lists.openehr.org>> wrote: Hi everyone, It seems like Dileep’s original questions have been largely answered by other members of the community, thank you!  There’s been some added

RE: Downloading previous versions of archetypes from CKM

2019-05-28 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland via openEHR-clinical
Hi everyone, It seems like Dileep’s original questions have been largely answered by other members of the community, thank you!  There’s been some added discussion about the effects of changing archetypes on implementations and implementers. Heather wrote an email about this four years ago

RE: Class of archetype 'Gender'

2019-04-02 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland via openEHR-clinical
Sorry, I wasn’t clear enough: This is openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.gender, not openEHR-DEMOGRAPHIC-CLUSTER.gender.  Regards, Silje From: Diego Boscá Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 10:27 AM To: For openEHR clinical discussions Cc: Bakke, Silje Ljosland Subject: Re: Class of archetype 'Gender' The only

Class of archetype 'Gender'

2019-04-02 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland via openEHR-clinical
Hi everyone, On revisiting the archetype CLUSTER.gender, we've discussed changing the class of the archetype to EVALUATION. The reasoning behind this is that the original use cases we thought would be relevant for this archetype, such as nesting it within a lab result or an interpreter

RE: DV_PROPORTION vs DV_QUANTITY for %

2019-01-03 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
a las 7:59, Bakke, Silje Ljosland (mailto:silje.ljosland.ba...@nasjonalikt.no>>) escribió: Hi everyone, happy new year! We’ve just hit a question about modelling choices, how to represent percentages. We have a data type DV_PROPORTION, which can be used to represent any proportion su

DV_PROPORTION vs DV_QUANTITY for %

2019-01-02 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi everyone, happy new year! We've just hit a question about modelling choices, how to represent percentages. We have a data type DV_PROPORTION, which can be used to represent any proportion such as a fraction or a percentage, and we have the DV_QUANTITY data type which can have % as the unit.

Christmas cleaning of the openEHR wiki...

2018-12-19 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi everyone, Sorry for the crossposting, but I thought this would concern everyone. I believe the openEHR wiki is an important documentation tool that has probably been a bit neglected(?). The default Confluence theme isn't super pretty, and the site is difficult to navigate, in my opinion

RE: MEDINFO 2019, Lyon, France.

2018-11-08 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi all, As you can see from the attached email, the deadline for submissions is extended to November 25th. Mvh. Silje From: openEHR-clinical On Behalf Of Dr. Carol Hullin Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 3:50 PM To: For openEHR clinical discussions Subject: Re: MEDINFO 2019, Lyon, France. I

RE: How to define transitions in the ISM

2018-08-06 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
maybe there are less transitions between other states, and those can be in the archetype. This would remove a little friction at development time. It would be nice to know how other modelers do this and how other implementers deal with non defined transitions in ACTION archetypes. Best, Pablo

Topics of the openehr-clinical list

2018-07-05 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi everyone, I’ve seen a tendency lately that topics that at least to me seem to be of a technical nature are posted to the clinical list. These topics often generate a lot of discussion, which drowns out much of the discussion about the clinical aspects of openEHR. I realise that a lot of

RE: How to define transitions in the ISM

2018-06-27 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi Pablo! I’ll try to answer your question about how clinical modellers solve this problem. Have a look at the ACTION.medication archetype (http://openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.123). This archetype has 11 separate steps for the ACTIVE state. In each medication management context, one

What to call this concept?

2018-06-15 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi everyone, We've been struggling for a while to define and delineate a concept about the activities an individual does during their day - do they do paid work, unpaid work, are they a student, are they unemployed and seeking work, unemployed and not seeking work, retired, carer, are they a

RE: Seeking Modeling Assistance for openEHR

2018-02-15 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi Angela, I understand the issue with not being able to install applications on your computer; we have the same kinds of restrictions at my workplace. If you would point me to your current model in some kind of generic format, I could have a look at it for you. Kind regards, Silje Ljosland

RE: Mandatory elements in archetypes, and user interfaces

2017-11-28 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
%2093%2043%2029%2010> From: openEHR-implementers [mailto:openehr-implementers-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Bakke, Silje Ljosland Sent: fredag 10. november 2017 11:48 To: openehr-implement...@lists.openehr.org<mailto:openehr-implement...@lists.openehr.org>; For openEHR clinic

Versioning of archetypes: Minor or major changes?

2017-11-16 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Another crosspost between the Clinical and the Implementers lists. In versioning archetypes, we've defaulted to SemVer's three version levels MAJOR.MINOR.PATCH. When discussing with DIPS what should be considered MINOR or MAJOR changes, we've come to the preliminary conclusion that many more

Mandatory elements in archetypes, and user interfaces

2017-11-10 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Crossposting this between the clinical and implementers lists, since it belongs in both: In some archetypes, one or more elements are set as mandatory (typically occurrences 1..1 or 1..*), because the rest of the concept makes no sense without this particular element recorded. Examples are

RE: Modeling generic concepts, considerations for querying

2017-09-26 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi all! I agree with Heather, making even just a subset of the generic archetypes context specific will lead to governance horrorfest, both on the CKM level and for each application/vendor. I imagine it also could make querying for specific clinical concepts across different clinical contexts

RE: openEHR-technical Digest, Vol 64, Issue 6

2017-06-06 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
I agree and disagree. ☺ An EHR needs to be able to cope with all kinds of data, “questionnaire” or not. However I’m not so sure a modelling pattern that works for everything that could be labelled a “questionnaire” is achievable, or even useful. Modelling patterns are sometimes extremely

RE: BMI archetype

2017-04-10 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
I think this is a case of putting too much weight into the names of the archetype classes. Basically: · OBSERVATIONs are used when you need a point in time event (or series of them) or an interval event with or without a math function, ie want the same thing done over and over again

Z scores

2017-03-21 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi everyone, We've got an archetype proposal for Z scores (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_score). The way we understand these, they're statistical calculations for specific values such as height or weight, based on a population average, similar to percentiles. We're not sure how to

RE: Normal range/reference ranges for text data type

2016-09-29 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Thanks for your replies everyone! Can the Any data type be constrained to DV_ORDINAL and populated with values in template or at run time? Regards, Silje From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016

Normal range/reference ranges for text data type

2016-09-28 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi everyone, We're working on requirements for labs results, and have bumped into a potential problem. Some results are textual/non-quantitative in nature, for example "positive/negative", "+/++/+++", "negative/borderline/positive". These results also need a kind of "normal range" for the

RE: Archetype for pain scale (VAS)

2016-09-27 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi Pekka! VAS is a quantification of the severity of a symptom, which could be pain or other symptoms. When the international Symptom/Sign archetype was reviewed and published, the element “Severity rating” was included to cater for VAS or other severity scales. For now, there are no plans to

Interval of proportions

2016-09-06 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Is interval of proportions a legal data type? If so, which is the correct syntax? ELEMENT[at0004] occurrences matches {0..1} matches { -- Proportion of normal daily intake value matches { DV_PROPORTION matches {*} DV_INTERVAL matches { upper matches {

RE: HL7 and negation

2016-06-08 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi Gerard, I don’t have time to look through the use cases right now, but I thought I should give a general outline to how we handle negation in openEHR archetypes. Basically, there isn’t a single way that works for all use cases, but we’ve worked out a few patterns that seem to work: ·

Exclusion of observations/tests/scoring

2016-03-19 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi everyone, A recent requirement is to be able to record that a specific observation/test/score was not performed and why. The case example is the Children's Global Assessment Scale (CGAS), which is part of the WHO Multiaxial classification of child and adolescent psychiatric disorders. In

RFC:Therapeutic precautions archetype

2016-03-19 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi everyone, Based on requirements from the Norwegian National Summary Care Record (Norwegian: "Kjernejournal"), and Heather's email about therapeutic precautions (https://omowizard.wordpress.com/2014/07/16/therapeutic-precautions-are-the-new-black/), we've made an archetype to represent the

RE: Socio-technical challenges when the openEHR approach is put to use in Norwegian hospitals

2016-03-13 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi again, I see from the list lots of people didn't get to read the actual article. I for some reason got a full text download for free, but I can see several of you didn't. Perhaps some sort of time limited offer after publication? I don't think it's easy to judge the article from the

Socio-technical challenges when the openEHR approach is put to use in Norwegian hospitals

2016-03-09 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi everyone! As some of you may have noticed, a paper called "Evaluating Model-Driven Development for large-scale EHRs through the openEHR approach" (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1386505616300247) was recently published by a PhD student at the University of Tromsø. The

Architectural choices: One composition archetype per document type, or not?

2016-02-11 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
When implementing an openEHR based system for a large hospital, there will be hundreds if not thousands of document types. Examples of these are admission notes for different departments and specialties, outpatient notes, nursing documentation, check lists, discharge summaries, etc ad

RE: EQ-5D-5L archetype

2015-11-05 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
The same requirement has just popped up here. If nobody else has one, I’m sure we can make one cooperatively. Regards, Silje From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Ian McNicoll Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 8:11 PM To: For openEHR clinical

Multiple translators

2015-03-17 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
For now, the other_details attribute within TRANSLATION_DETAILS should do the trick. The main issue is to keep the different translators separated, which this seems to do: other_details = [secondary_translators] = Ian McNicoll, freshEHR, UK, Sebastian Garde, Ocean Informatics, DE The

Multiple translators

2015-03-17 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
, they can be put in ADL 2, and the ADL Workbench and other tools can fairly easily upgrade the existing archetypes into new structures. - thomas On 17/03/2015 10:32, Sebastian Garde wrote: On 17.03.2015 11:25, Thomas Beale wrote: On 17/03/2015 10:17, Bakke, Silje Ljosland wrote: For now

Editing demographic archetypes

2015-03-17 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi everyone, The openEHR CKM contains quite a few archetypes of the class DEMOGRAPHIC-*, apparently all authored by a Brazilian team in 2009. These are not editable using the Archetype Editor. How would one go about editing these archetypes? Is editing ADL in a text editor the only way at the

How to fix CKM biggest issue

2015-03-16 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Do you really need a separate CKM instance to be able to share archetypes, though? In the Norwegian CKM, we?ve been quite liberal in handing out (public or private) incubators w/ editor rights to anyone (in Norway; non-profit or commercial) who wants one. We had an initial lapse where we

Multiple translators

2015-03-13 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi, At the Norwegian CKM http://arketyper.no, we've been doing quite extensive translation of international (English language) archetypes into Norwegian. During this process, we're finding more and more translation isn't a one-person job, but usually there's a primary translator and one or

MedInfo 2015 openEHR tutorials

2014-12-18 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
speakers want to do. Does anyone know the deadline? Is it Monday as with the papers? Has anyone else submitted? I have prepared a background paper on openEHR which I will submit this weekend. Cheers, Sam From: Bakke, Silje Ljosland Sent: ?Wednesday?, ?17? ?December? ?2014 ?9?:?48? ?PM

MedInfo 2015 openEHR tutorials

2014-12-17 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
No, there?s been no activity as far as I?ve seen. Is anyone else attending planning to present as part of a tutorial/workshop regarding clinical modelling? As far as I can see from the wiki page

MedInfo 2015 openEHR tutorials

2014-12-17 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
I?ve just checked, the deadline for papers is Monday December 22 as you wrote, but for workshops, panels, tutorials and demos it?s January 15 as I wrote in my previous email. I?m considering submitting my talk as a regular paper by Monday, and then see what we can get done by January 15

Recording of estimates using reference model attributes

2014-12-01 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
, Silje Ljosland: Hi everyone, During a recent review of the Body weight archetype in the Norwegian CKM (http://arketyper.no/ckm/#showArchetype_1078.36.25), the following comment was submitted for the ?Use? element : The text needs better specification of how the reference model is to be used

Recording of estimates using reference model attributes

2014-12-01 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi everyone, During a recent review of the Body weight archetype in the Norwegian CKM (http://arketyper.no/ckm/#showArchetype_1078.36.25), the following comment was submitted for the Use element : The text needs better specification of how the reference model is to be used to record estimates.

Relationship openEHR/CIMI

2014-10-29 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
, Bakke, Silje Ljosland wrote: Thanks Thomas and Seref! I think the main point for this report is your statement on what openEHR is in relation to CIMI. I don?t know why they?ve brought CIMI into this at all really, since neither DIPS nor the National ICT governance is relating our work to CIMI

Relationship openEHR/CIMI

2014-10-28 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
, Bakke, Silje Ljosland wrote: Hi everyone, Recently Gartner released a survey of EHR suppliers in the Norwegian markethttp://www.regjeringen.no/pages/38845466/gartner_survey_ehr_suppliers_systems_norwegian_market.pdf, as commissioned by the Norwegian Ministry of Health and Care Services

November openEHR modelling course in Bergen, Norway

2014-10-20 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Dear openEHR clinical community, To facilitate cross border contact between openEHR communities as well as distribute costs, National ICT Norway would like to invite the international community to a two day course on openEHR and practical archetype/template modelling taking place in late

Problem saving in archetype editor

2014-10-02 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
I'm having trouble saving a particular archetype from Archetype Editor. Other archetypes are apparently saved without issue. I'm getting the following error message. The archetype is attached to this email. I'd be extremely happy if anyone could tell me why this happens and how to fix it... :)

Indirect Oximetry

2014-09-02 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
I think you might have an old version of this archetype. In the openEHR.org CKM this limitation was fixed by Ian McNicoll in March 2013. I believe the 0..1 occurrences constraint originally was an error. Kind regards, Silje Ljosland Bakke Coordinator, National Editorial Board for Archetypes,

Meeting at Medinfo?

2013-08-07 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Looking forward to seeing you again, and hopefully meeting lots of new people! :) -- Silje Kind regards, Silje Ljosland Bakke E-health Adviser +47 40203298 Haukeland University Hospital RD dept, E-health section www.helse-bergen.nohttp://www.helse-bergen.no/ From: openEHR-clinical

FW: Medinfo 2013 - Scientific Program Committee Decision, Id: 946

2013-03-14 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
I hope you succeed! I was planning on going to Medinfo if this workshop was accepted. :) Kind regards, Silje Ljosland Bakke E-health adviser 40203298 Haukeland University Hospital www.helse-bergen.nohttp://www.helse-bergen.no/ Fra: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-bounces at

Cardinality?

2011-11-14 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi, At our previous archetype workgroup meeting we chanced upon an archetype (openEHR-EHR-EVALUATION.goal.v1) in which the cardinality of a cluster (Target) was different than most of the others we'd seen. We were unsure what cardinality is used for in this context, and we couldn't find any

Archetypes for Body fluid or substance and Bodily output

2011-10-05 Thread Bakke, Silje Ljosland
Hi! We're slowly getting into translating a small set of archetypes into Norwegian, and we're a bit confused about some properties from the archetypes Body fluid or substance and Bodily output. Bodily output is described as Recording of findings and measurement (or estimation) of bodily output