Archetypes for "Body fluid or substance" and "Bodily output"

'body fluid or substance' archetype is self referential >> and can cascade. This is about re-use of the content in different places >> where it makes sense i.e. the 'body fluid or substance' archetype may be >> used in describing a sample as well for a pathology sp

Cardinality?

Hi, At our previous archetype workgroup meeting we chanced upon an archetype (openEHR-EHR-EVALUATION.goal.v1) in which the cardinality of a cluster ("Target") was different than most of the others we'd seen. We were unsure what cardinality is used for in this context, and we couldn't find any d

Archetypes for "Body fluid or substance" and "Bodily output"

Hi! We're slowly getting into translating a small set of archetypes into Norwegian, and we're a bit confused about some properties from the archetypes Body fluid or substance and Bodily output. Bodily output is described as "Recording of findings and measurement (or estimation) of bodily output

Meeting at Medinfo?

Looking forward to seeing you again, and hopefully meeting lots of new people! :) -- Silje Kind regards, Silje Ljosland Bakke E-health Adviser +47 40203298 Haukeland University Hospital R&D dept, E-health section www.helse-bergen.no From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:

FW: Medinfo 2013 - Scientific Program Committee Decision, Id: 946

I hope you succeed! I was planning on going to Medinfo if this workshop was accepted. :) Kind regards, Silje Ljosland Bakke E-health adviser 40203298 Haukeland University Hospital www.helse-bergen.no Fra: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-bounces at lists.op

Recording of estimates using reference model attributes

In the serialized Object it should look like this: ~ 50 mm[Hg] 0 Best, Birger Am 01.12.2014 09:04, schrieb Bakke, Silje Ljosland: Hi everyone, During a recent review of the B

MedInfo 2015 openEHR tutorials

No, there?s been no activity as far as I?ve seen. Is anyone else attending planning to present as part of a tutorial/workshop regarding clinical modelling? As far as I can see from the wiki page (http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/resources/MEDINFO+2015+-+Sao+Paulo%2C+Brazil

MedInfo 2015 openEHR tutorials

what the individual speakers want to do. Does anyone know the deadline? Is it Monday as with the papers? Has anyone else submitted? I have prepared a background paper on openEHR which I will submit this weekend. Cheers, Sam From: Bakke, Silje Ljosland<mailto:silje.ljosland.ba...@helse-bergen

MedInfo 2015 openEHR tutorials

s with the papers? Has anyone else submitted? I have prepared a background paper on openEHR which I will submit this weekend. Cheers, Sam From: Bakke, Silje Ljosland Sent: ?Wednesday?, ?17? ?December? ?2014 ?9?:?48? ?PM To: For openEHR clinical discussions No, there?s been no activity as far

MedInfo 2015 openEHR tutorials

e final program. You can give that a slightly different focus than what you include in the workshop proposal to have a better chance for both being accepted. Regards, Evelyn From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Bakke, Silje Ljosland Sent: Thurs

Recording of estimates using reference model attributes

Hi everyone, During a recent review of the Body weight archetype in the Norwegian CKM (http://arketyper.no/ckm/#showArchetype_1078.36.25), the following comment was submitted for the element : "The text needs better specification of how the reference model is to be used to record estimates. Th

Representing HbA1c result (mmol/mol) in AE

Hi, Would it be possible to do a general update of the units used in the Archetype Editor? There are some symbols (like "?") which apparently are not UCUM compatible and aren't recognised by the CKM. Also, some unit symbols (like "gm" for gram) aren't compatible with correct SI symbol use (in t

Postulate: DV_QUANTITY should be modelled with fewest possible units

The original context for this discussion was this archetype: http://arketyper.no/ckm/#showArchetype_1078.36.25 (default archetype language for this CKM is Norwegian, but it can be changed manually) Being an all-metric country since the 1800s, we've removed lbs as a possible unit, but added g (g

MedInfo 2015 openEHR tutorials

Hi Evelyn, I?m very interested in the work you?re doing with this. I?ve just got confirmation I can attend Medinfo next year, so I?d be very happy to be part of this discussion there. I?d also like to contribute to the clinical modelling tutorial/workshop, as outlined on the wiki page. Has any

Problem saving in archetype editor

I'm having trouble saving a particular archetype from Archetype Editor. Other archetypes are apparently saved without issue. I'm getting the following error message. The archetype is attached to this email. I'd be extremely happy if anyone could tell me why this happens and how to fix it... :)

November openEHR modelling course in Bergen, Norway

Dear openEHR clinical community, To facilitate cross border contact between openEHR communities as well as distribute costs, National ICT Norway would like to invite the international community to a two day course on openEHR and practical archetype/template modelling taking place in late Novem

Relationship openEHR/CIMI

Hi everyone, Recently Gartner released a survey of EHR suppliers in the Norwegian market, as commissioned by the Norwegian Ministry of Health and Care Services. In the report, they stated the fol

Relationship openEHR/CIMI

2014 18:02, Bakke, Silje Ljosland wrote: Hi everyone, Recently Gartner released a survey of EHR suppliers in the Norwegian market<http://www.regjeringen.no/pages/38845466/gartner_survey_ehr_suppliers_systems_norwegian_market.pdf>, as commissioned by the Norwegian Ministry of Health and Care

Relationship openEHR/CIMI

8/10/2014 18:41, Bakke, Silje Ljosland wrote: Thanks Thomas and Seref! I think the main point for this report is your statement on what openEHR is in relation to CIMI. I don?t know why they?ve brought CIMI into this at all really, since neither DIPS nor the National ICT governance is relating our w

Relationship openEHR/CIMI

have been considered, for example SNOMED-CT in combination with ICD-10 as used in many of the leading systems internationally.? Regards, Silje From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Bakke, Silje Ljosland Sent: Wednesday, October 29, 2014 8:31 AM To

Relationship openEHR/CIMI

-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 1:45 PM To: openehr-clinical at lists.openehr.org Subject: Re: Relationship openEHR/CIMI On 29/10/2014 08:31, Bakke, Silje Ljosland wrote: Here's another statement from one of the mentioned re

Indirect Oximetry

I think you might have an old version of this archetype. In the openEHR.org CKM this limitation was fixed by Ian McNicoll in March 2013. I believe the 0..1 occurrences constraint originally was an error. Kind regards, Silje Ljosland Bakke Coordinator, National Editorial Board for Archetypes, Nat

Multiple translators

Hi, At the Norwegian CKM http://arketyper.no, we've been doing quite extensive translation of international (English language) archetypes into Norwegian. During this process, we're finding more and more translation isn't a one-person job, but usually there's a primary translator and one or more

How to fix CKM biggest issue

Do you really need a separate CKM instance to be able to share archetypes, though? In the Norwegian CKM, we?ve been quite liberal in handing out (public or private) incubators w/ editor rights to anyone (in Norway; non-profit or commercial) who wants one. We had an initial lapse where we handed

Multiple translators

For now, the other_details attribute within TRANSLATION_DETAILS should do the trick. The main issue is to keep the different translators separated, which this seems to do: other_details =< ["secondary_translators"] = <"Ian McNicoll, freshEHR, UK", "Sebastian Garde, Ocean Informatics, DE">

Multiple translators

are agreed, they can be put in ADL 2, and the ADL Workbench and other tools can fairly easily upgrade the existing archetypes into new structures. - thomas On 17/03/2015 10:32, Sebastian Garde wrote: On 17.03.2015 11:25, Thomas Beale wrote: On 17/03/2015 10:17, Bakke, Silje Ljosland wrote: Fo

Editing demographic archetypes

Hi everyone, The openEHR CKM contains quite a few archetypes of the class DEMOGRAPHIC-*, apparently all authored by a Brazilian team in 2009. These are not editable using the Archetype Editor. How would one go about editing these archetypes? Is editing ADL in a text editor the only way at the m

Multiple translators

British Medical Translator id 00400595"> > other_contributors = <"Bonnie Tyler mailto:bonnie at medicaltranslation.co.uk>>", "Yannick Guilloumailto:yg at francaistrad.fr>>"> > ["ru"] = < language =

RE: openEHR @ StackExchange

Could questions be about modelling, or implementation/specs only? Regards, Silje -Original Message- From: openEHR-technical [mailto:openehr-technical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale Sent: Monday, May 25, 2015 1:41 PM To: openehr-techni...@lists.openehr.org; For open

Choice of quantities?

Hi, We're doing some work on the tobacco smoking archetype (yes, still), and one of the identified elements is the amount of tobacco smoked. Smoking tobacco comes in two main forms; cigarettes and loose tobacco for roll-your-own or pipe smoking. This means that the "Amount" element needs to tak

RE: EQ-5D-5L archetype

The same requirement has just popped up here. If nobody else has one, I’m sure we can make one cooperatively. Regards, Silje From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Ian McNicoll Sent: Thursday, November 05, 2015 8:11 PM To: For openEHR clinical di

Architectural choices: One composition archetype per document type, or not?

When implementing an openEHR based system for a large hospital, there will be hundreds if not thousands of document types. Examples of these are admission notes for different departments and specialties, outpatient notes, nursing documentation, check lists, discharge summaries, etc ad infinitum.

Socio-technical challenges when the openEHR approach is put to use in Norwegian hospitals

Hi everyone! As some of you may have noticed, a paper called "Evaluating Model-Driven Development for large-scale EHRs through the openEHR approach" (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1386505616300247) was recently published by a PhD student at the University of Tromsø. The pape

RE: Socio-technical challenges when the openEHR approach is put to use in Norwegian hospitals

Hi again, I see from the list lots of people didn't get to read the actual article. I for some reason got a full text download for free, but I can see several of you didn't. Perhaps some sort of time limited offer after publication? I don't think it's easy to judge the article from the abstract

RFC:Therapeutic precautions archetype

Hi everyone, Based on requirements from the Norwegian National Summary Care Record (Norwegian: "Kjernejournal"), and Heather's email about therapeutic precautions (https://omowizard.wordpress.com/2014/07/16/therapeutic-precautions-are-the-new-black/), we've made an archetype to represent the co

Exclusion of observations/tests/scoring

Hi everyone, A recent requirement is to be able to record that a specific observation/test/score was not performed and why. The case example is the Children's Global Assessment Scale (CGAS), which is part of the WHO Multiaxial classification of child and adolescent psychiatric disorders. In the

RE: HL7 and negation

Hi Gerard, I don’t have time to look through the use cases right now, but I thought I should give a general outline to how we handle negation in openEHR archetypes. Basically, there isn’t a single way that works for all use cases, but we’ve worked out a few patterns that seem to work: ·

Interval of proportions

Is interval of proportions a legal data type? If so, which is the correct syntax? ELEMENT[at0004] occurrences matches {0..1} matches { -- Proportion of normal daily intake value matches { DV_PROPORTION matches {*} DV_INTERVAL matches { upper matches {

RE: Archetype for pain scale (VAS)

Hi Pekka! VAS is a quantification of the severity of a symptom, which could be pain or other symptoms. When the international Symptom/Sign archetype was reviewed and published, the element “Severity rating” was included to cater for VAS or other severity scales. For now, there are no plans to m

Normal range/reference ranges for text data type

Hi everyone, We're working on requirements for labs results, and have bumped into a potential problem. Some results are textual/non-quantitative in nature, for example "positive/negative", "+/++/+++", "negative/borderline/positive". These results also need a kind of "normal range" for the recei

RE: Normal range/reference ranges for text data type

Thanks for your replies everyone! Can the Any data type be constrained to DV_ORDINAL and populated with values in template or at run time? Regards, Silje From: openEHR-clinical [mailto:openehr-clinical-boun...@lists.openehr.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Beale Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2016 4:44

Z scores

Hi everyone, We've got an archetype proposal for Z scores (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Standard_score). The way we understand these, they're statistical calculations for specific values such as height or weight, based on a population average, similar to percentiles. We're not sure how to mod

RE: BMI archetype

I think this is a case of putting too much weight into the names of the archetype classes. Basically: · OBSERVATIONs are used when you need a point in time event (or series of them) or an interval event with or without a math function, ie want the same thing done over and over again wi

RE: openEHR-technical Digest, Vol 64, Issue 6

I agree and disagree. ☺ An EHR needs to be able to cope with all kinds of data, “questionnaire” or not. However I’m not so sure a modelling pattern that works for everything that could be labelled a “questionnaire” is achievable, or even useful. Modelling patterns are sometimes extremely useful

RE: Modeling generic concepts, considerations for querying

Hi all! I agree with Heather, making even just a subset of the generic archetypes context specific will lead to governance horrorfest, both on the CKM level and for each application/vendor. I imagine it also could make querying for specific clinical concepts across different clinical contexts m

Mandatory elements in archetypes, and user interfaces

Crossposting this between the clinical and implementers lists, since it belongs in both: In some archetypes, one or more elements are set as mandatory (typically occurrences 1..1 or 1..*), because the rest of the concept makes no sense without this particular element recorded. Examples are Prob

Versioning of archetypes: Minor or major changes?

Another crosspost between the Clinical and the Implementers lists. In versioning archetypes, we've defaulted to SemVer's three version levels MAJOR.MINOR.PATCH. When discussing with DIPS what should be considered MINOR or MAJOR changes, we've come to the preliminary conclusion that many more cha

RE: Mandatory elements in archetypes, and user interfaces

Bakke, Silje Ljosland Sent: fredag 10. november 2017 11:48 To: openehr-implement...@lists.openehr.org<mailto:openehr-implement...@lists.openehr.org>; For openEHR clinical discussions (openehr-clinical@lists.openehr.org<mailto:openehr-clinical@lists.openehr.org>) mailto:open

RE: Seeking Modeling Assistance for openEHR

Hi Angela, I understand the issue with not being able to install applications on your computer; we have the same kinds of restrictions at my workplace. If you would point me to your current model in some kind of generic format, I could have a look at it for you. Kind regards, Silje Ljosland Ba

What to call this concept?

Hi everyone, We've been struggling for a while to define and delineate a concept about the activities an individual does during their day - do they do paid work, unpaid work, are they a student, are they unemployed and seeking work, unemployed and not seeking work, retired, carer, are they a yo

RE: How to define transitions in the ISM

Hi Pablo! I’ll try to answer your question about how clinical modellers solve this problem. Have a look at the ACTION.medication archetype (http://openehr.org/ckm/#showArchetype_1013.1.123). This archetype has 11 separate steps for the ACTIVE state. In each medication management context, one o

Topics of the openehr-clinical list

Hi everyone, I’ve seen a tendency lately that topics that at least to me seem to be of a technical nature are posted to the clinical list. These topics often generate a lot of discussion, which drowns out much of the discussion about the clinical aspects of openEHR. I realise that a lot of disc

RE: How to define transitions in the ISM

chetypes. Best, Pablo. On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 4:35 AM, Bakke, Silje Ljosland mailto:silje.ljosland.ba...@nasjonalikt.no>> wrote: Hi Pablo! I’ll try to answer your question about how clinical modellers solve this problem. Have a look at the ACTION.medication archetype (http://openehr.org/ckm/

RE: How to define transitions in the ISM

and those can be in the archetype. This would remove a little friction at development time. It would be nice to know how other modelers do this and how other implementers deal with non defined transitions in ACTION archetypes. Best, Pablo. On Wed, Jun 27, 2018 at 4:35 AM, Bakke, Silje Ljosland

RE: MEDINFO 2019, Lyon, France.

Hi all, As you can see from the attached email, the deadline for submissions is extended to November 25th. Mvh. Silje From: openEHR-clinical On Behalf Of Dr. Carol Hullin Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 3:50 PM To: For openEHR clinical discussions Subject: Re: MEDINFO 2019, Lyon, France. I

Christmas cleaning of the openEHR wiki...

Hi everyone, Sorry for the crossposting, but I thought this would concern everyone. I believe the openEHR wiki is an important documentation tool that has probably been a bit neglected(?). The default Confluence theme isn't super pretty, and the site is difficult to navigate, in my opinion beca

DV_PROPORTION vs DV_QUANTITY for %

Hi everyone, happy new year! We've just hit a question about modelling choices, how to represent percentages. We have a data type DV_PROPORTION, which can be used to represent any proportion such as a fraction or a percentage, and we have the DV_QUANTITY data type which can have % as the unit.

RE: DV_PROPORTION vs DV_QUANTITY for %

a las 7:59, Bakke, Silje Ljosland (mailto:silje.ljosland.ba...@nasjonalikt.no>>) escribió: Hi everyone, happy new year! We’ve just hit a question about modelling choices, how to represent percentages. We have a data type DV_PROPORTION, which can be used to represent any proportion such as

Class of archetype 'Gender'

Hi everyone, On revisiting the archetype CLUSTER.gender, we've discussed changing the class of the archetype to EVALUATION. The reasoning behind this is that the original use cases we thought would be relevant for this archetype, such as nesting it within a lab result or an interpreter request,

RE: Class of archetype 'Gender'

Sorry, I wasn’t clear enough: This is openEHR-EHR-CLUSTER.gender, not openEHR-DEMOGRAPHIC-CLUSTER.gender. 😊 Regards, Silje From: Diego Boscá Sent: Tuesday, April 2, 2019 10:27 AM To: For openEHR clinical discussions Cc: Bakke, Silje Ljosland Subject: Re: Class of archetype 'Gender&

RE: Downloading previous versions of archetypes from CKM

Hi everyone, It seems like Dileep’s original questions have been largely answered by other members of the community, thank you! 😊 There’s been some added discussion about the effects of changing archetypes on implementations and implementers. Heather wrote an email about this four years ago

RE: Downloading previous versions of archetypes from CKM

t; Hon. Senior Research Associate, CHIME, UCL On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 10:43, Bakke, Silje Ljosland via openEHR-clinical mailto:openehr-clinical@lists.openehr.org>> wrote: Hi everyone, It seems like Dileep’s original questions have been largely answered by other members of the community, tha

RE: Problem orientation in OpenEHR

Hi Paul! Yes, this is part of the openEHR specification LINK class (https://specifications.openehr.org/releases/RM/latest/docs/common.html#_link_class), and it needs to be handled by the application. I know DIPS has started using this in some functional areas like their hospital care plan modul