Tim,
a few points by way of response:
1. the NCSA web server (which I used to administer in one company) was
built by normal paid engineers in jobs where they were directed to build
that tool - i.e. dedicated paid time.
2. there has been no barrier that I am aware of to people wanting to
Hi!
On 16/11/2010 12:44, Tim Cook wrote:
Democratizing innovation / Eric von Hippel. ISBN 0-262-00274-4
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 16:51, Thomas Beale
thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote:
this is an interesting looking book, I downloaded it.
However, as I and I imagine others won't get
I should have added earlier that the openEHR Java project is a pretty
good example of the meritocracy Tim wants to see. It has 16 committers,
and the list remains as active as ever, with a large number of
subscribers. Although currently under-resourced, it works in exactly
the way it should,
I should have added earlier that the openEHR Java project is a pretty
good example of the meritocracy Tim wants to see. It has 16 committers,
and the list remains as active as ever, with a large number of
subscribers. Although currently under-resourced, it works in exactly
the way it should,
Greetings,
I can see a specific pattern emerging in the recent mails of this thread, to
which I'd like to response, and contribute.
I will repeat my point I've made some time ago in this discussion, and by
doing so I will insist on it. To deliver what openEHR is capable of, there
is a significant
Tim,
this is an interesting looking book, I downloaded it. However, as I and
I imagine others won't get through 220 pages instantly, do you want to
summarise what you see as the lessons from it, while this discussion is
still warm?
- thomas
On 16/11/2010 12:44, Tim Cook wrote:
Hi Tom,
On
Hi Tom,
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 15:51 +, Thomas Beale wrote:
Tim,
this is an interesting looking book, I downloaded it. However, as I
and I imagine others won't get through 220 pages instantly,
Well, that is all a matter of personal cost/benefit; isn't? :-)
do you want to summarise
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 16:27, Seref Arikan
serefarikan at kurumsalteknoloji.com wrote:
Let me specialize Tom's argument: as far as I know, no member of the openEHR
community who is putting his/her work out there for others to used freely,
is getting paid just for doing so.
We don't get any
Hi Erik,
This bit:
and there are very few
instututions who let their intangible assets go into public domain.
is written in the context of openEHR.
openEHR may end up in a relationship with big vendors, similar to some of
the examples you have provided.
For this to happen, what we have out
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 22:19 +, Seref Arikan wrote:
I personally see this big bootstrapping requirement as a unique
problem of this domain,
Compared to creating your own world class web server in the mid 1990's?
RE: http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html
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Sent: Monday, 15 November 2010 11:29 PM
To: For openEHR technical discussions
Subject: Re: Why is OpenEHR adoption so slow?
Hi!
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:03, Thomas Beale
thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote:
there are zero paid openEHR
Hi Tom,
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 16:25 +, Thomas Beale wrote:
a few points informally (I am not on any boards of any organisations,
so these are my own thoughts):
* any organisation like openEHR needs some core paid people to
execute key functions, and to maintain continuity.
Hi!
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:03, Thomas Beale
thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote:
there are zero paid openEHR people, full-time or part-time.
That is not such a useful way of looking at openEHR funding. There are
a lot of people working with openEHR on paid time during working
hours.
Hi Erik,
Hi!
On Fri, Nov 5, 2010 at 10:03, Thomas Beale
thomas.beale at oceaninformatics.com wrote:
there are zero paid openEHR people, full-time or part-time.
That is not such a useful way of looking at openEHR funding. There are
a lot of people working with openEHR on paid time
Erik,
a few points informally (I am not on any boards of any organisations, so
these are my own thoughts):
* any organisation like openEHR needs some core paid people to
execute key functions, and to maintain continuity. There is an
'officers' level, which runs any
One further point I omitted - a key activity that has to be done by orgs
like openEHR is education, dissemination and communication. This is also
normally related to one or more paid posts in such organisations,
because it is so critical.
- thomas
Here is a wiki page for governance discussion -
http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/oecom/Community+Governance
Bob Mayes is a great guy by the way, he worked for many years in Zimbabwe.
- thomas
On 05/11/2010 01:21, pablo pazos wrote:
Hi Thomas,
I see we agreed in much of the points, I
: pazospa...@hotmail.com
To: openehr-technical at openehr.org
Subject: RE: Why is OpenEHR adoption so slow?
Date: Sun, 7 Nov 2010 22:22:32 -0300
Great Thomas, I'll put there some ideas to discuss with the community.
--
Atte.
A/C Pablo Pazos Guti?rrez
LinkedIn: http://uy.linkedin.com
: Why is OpenEHR adoption so slow?
There are many things that can be improved in openEHR, no doubt about it. Some
comments. First of all, HL7 charges membership fees, meeting attendance fees
and purchase fees for the standards; a small company can easily spend $10,000 -
$20,000 per annum just
From: thomas.be...@oceaninformatics.com
To: openehr-technical at openehr.org
Subject: Re: Why is OpenEHR adoption so slow?
Here is a wiki page for governance discussion -
http://www.openehr.org/wiki/display/oecom/Community+Governance
Bob Mayes is a great
There are many things that can be improved in openEHR, no doubt about
it. Some comments. First of all, HL7 charges membership fees, meeting
attendance fees and purchase fees for the standards; a small company can
easily spend $10,000 - $20,000 per annum just on the cash outlay. Larger
Hi Thomas,
I didn't mean that we have to follow the HL7 structure and ways of funding.
They have good and bad things, as you point. One of the good things is that a
set of small regional communities are stronger than a huge central community,
because they have common interests, common
Hi Thomas,
I see we agreed in much of the points, I hope to see other's visions.
Governance is a good issue to discuss with the community, but I can't see any
governance if the OpenEHR boards are distant from the community, and do not
understand their real needs. What I was really talking
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Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2010 22:25:17 +0900
Subject: Re: Why is OpenEHR adoption so slow?
From: sk...@moss.gr.jp
To: openehr-implementers at openehr.org
Hi Pablo
:36 AM
Subject: Why is OpenEHR adoption so slow?
Hi Thomas,
My opinion is the grade of adoption of a standard depend in some aspects of
goverment agencies, in some of the industry and some of the academy.
DICOM is a good example of an open standard heavily supported by the
industry
Hi Pablo,
A very useful insight into the issues indeed. This is one topic that may end
up being a quite long discussion, but I feel it is a topic that is worth
laying out, not only today, but every couple of years or so, to see where we
are.
I'll provide my personal views here. openEHR is not a
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